Josef Fares spoke about EA's recent Battlefront II controversy saying that all publishers mess up sometimes, but EA has been very good to him and Hazelight will get 100% of the revenue from A Way Out.
Yeah I don't care...they'll throw you away like a cummy tissue eventually
They've been good to you...for now but really awful to us. Since we are the consumers and we are in the majority it just comes off like you are defending your boss.
I always saw games like his and a few others in the past like that Yarn game to be basically vanity projects for EA. They don't tamper with them because it's not costing them much to fund in the grand scheme of things and they are supposed to make us think EA isn't like big corporate evil because hey look at this odd or interesting game concept we are funding.
In that light of course EA isn't going to meddle with his project they don't think it has a chance to be a massive multi million dollar franchise that they can pack full of loot boxes and micro transactions. From maybe from his perspective they are treating him well but that doesn't exactly make them a good company or anything.
I worked an indie game that was published by one of EA's mobile branches, and I'd say they were good to us too. It's not like the entire company sucks, it's just the business practices that pervade their high budget games are not that agreeable to the community. There are a lot of people that manage their games productions that are keen on making good games, and the smaller investments don't get wrapped up in the excessive monetization that you see in the higher profile games.
I say things based on what I think...I don't let fanboy loyalty or franchise brand can blind me.
When it comes to this stuff I like to think I have a point, EA are anti consumer people, you can't defend that at this point.
When it comes to things like my thoughts and opinions on Resident Evil 7, the new Tomb Raider or maybe an issue I have with a certain instalment of a franchise I love like Uncharted 4 or game I thought was "okay" like BotW...well that's my PERSONAL opinion on the matter.
It's not just that they're paying him. This is just conjecture on my party but it probably has to do with the fact that they're supporting his idea/his game(s). All that is as a result of their indie studio support.
He made the game....so he wants to assure the people wanting to play his game. If you worked on a game for multiple years, and people are boycotting EA games, wouldn’t you want to tell people what he did?
How is EA being "good" to you related in any way to their Battlefront 2 screw up? You're somebody who's on their payroll to do something else. Of course you should be happy. They're paying you money.
That wasn't a mess up, it was a cold, calculated punt at trying to see how much customers were willing to be bent over for.
They got their answer, and it has had a worse effect than they expected. Serves them right for trying to make gamers out to be brainless cash dispensers.
They have single handedly (well, maybe with Take Two, Activision and 2K's greed) woken up the gamers who were falling into these traps.
He’s obviously telling the blowhards not to judge his game based on your hatred of EA. It’s a reasonable request imo. He even went as far to say they fkd up. I respect that even though he was obviously shitfaced. I don’t know why he even bothered to plead with you one dimensional clowns honestly. Looking at the comments it obviously went on deaf ears.
This issue seems to have made you a bit too cynical. You don't normally resort to completely dismissing other people's opinions, even when expressed in what appears to be a closed minded view.
People are upset. They are expressing that. This guys opinion is really irrelevant to the other discussion, but this article is obviously framed in a way to try and make it seem like EA isn't all that bad. I personally don't feel EA is all bad, but they have some disgusting practices when it comes to their high profile AAA games.
I wouldn't judge any game or developer based on EA's actions, and I'm probably more aware than most that the devs themselves are usually just pawns for EA's desires. But there is merit to questioning this guys motives for saying what he said considering EA is funding his project.
His opinion is irrelevant? It was his interview lol...I get that people are upset, all he was saying was don’t use that anger to judge his game just because it has EA on the box. Does that really derseve comments like “Stockholm syndrome”? And I’M the cynical one? Lol
He’s not telling you to love EA though. He said they fukd up but they treated him right and don’t boycott his game because it has EA on the box. I don’t get the hatred for this, that’s why I’m so dismissive. He said absolutely nothing wrong. If you don’t like his game for what it is then that’s fine, if you’re not buying the game because EA published it then he tried to plead with you. I’m just saying it was pointless for him to do so because those people are usually clowns. As much as I hate EA, if they release a good game I will support it. I don’t hold grudges and I’m not one dimensional.
I don't believe he said anything wrong either. I just feel that how EA treats him is inconsequential to what people have a problem with.
I'm cool with what he's asking for....but ultimately, the people he's talking to are not going to look at his game if they're boycotting EA.
I do understand what you're saying about not judging his game because of EA's actions though. That would be unfair to him, and I'd advise most people not to look at the publisher when determining the talent that goes into making a game. In the case of most developers, they aren't always at liberty to fight against something their publisher wants. I know many developers who have a lot of distasteful publisher intervention attached to their games, and they don't really like it. But sometimes they do what they have to do to get a game made.
My personal experience with EA when working with their mobile branch wasn't bad at all. The producer I ended up working with had a lot of good insights on how to make the game better, and they were always willing to help bring in resources from some of their in house developers where needed. They were instrumental in helping make the game better and go on to make a successful game. They didn't make us attach any distasteful MT stuff, and we were able to release the game we wanted. This was about 10 years ago, and at that time, EA wasn't free of the criticisms they are getting today.
Despite all that, it doesn't change my views on what EA does, thus I don't mention it in these conversations except on the rare occasions where it seems prudent to do so....and it's usually to curb the notion that everyone at EA is evil, or that the devs are somehow terrible also.
Lots of mistakes lately
Dude how much please
Yeah I don't care...they'll throw you away like a cummy tissue eventually
They've been good to you...for now but really awful to us. Since we are the consumers and we are in the majority it just comes off like you are defending your boss.
Josef Fares, the best and most entertaining (drunk) presenter at The Game Awards 2017.
Of course you're gonna say good things about them. They are paying you 💁