Do we really need video game journalists? Actually, yes! They serve the same sort of role as sports and other entertainment journalists.
They have their place. They just need to stop pretending to be objective. If you are a fanboy (most are), just disclose that then state your opinion.
I think you’re confusing actual journalist with these wanna be journalist acticles that get posted here.
This. You stated a version of the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw the headline. Like most media, we no longer have journalists working in the gaming press. It is all either self promotion, hit driven sensationalism, agenda writing, or some of all three. Gamers are not helping matters either with their willingness to tolerate such abhorrent practices. Why? Either the article has one or two points with which their fanboyism agrees or else the gamers themselves do not know any better. The acceptance of the fact that a review cannot be an objective affair and instead exists as a collection of likes and dislikes happens to be something I find absurd. We should treat this entire matter like corn. Take it and throw it directly in the toilet and cut out the middle man. That way we can recognize things more clearly. Just have the developers do a direct QA with the community and interested fans (as some do) instead of providing this material to worthless pretend writers.
Ive turned to pobcast like like giantbomb, the beastcast, gameinformer, and ign scoop. Over the last year. It feels much more personal and you can get a better idea of how the journalist view things and if they’re overly biased. N4G has always been full of raging fanboys, but back when I first started using this site back in the early PS3/360. The article were from legitimate sites. Now most of them are opinion pieces catering to fanboys, quoting legitimate articles from real journalist. I’ve come across post on here where I had to go through three sites just to get to the original source of an interview and not click bait quotes taken out of context for people to argue about. I miss when N4G was a “news” collective.
"They serve the same sort of role as sports and other entertainment journalists." So...given that logic....they not really that important at all most of the time? I mean, reporting facts like your local news does for 5 minutes every night is one thing , but the average game journalist today seems more like a commentator on those sports shows, and an insufferable, unlikable, and non-entertaining version of Joan Rivers for all the tabloid and self important fluff content or editorial that pervades 99% of what constitutes gaming news nowadays. At least Joan Rivers was entertaining and funny, these game journalist are cynical and often uninformed
'Are video game journalists important?' Judging by how their 'influence' impacted the TGA categories compared to the 'community/gamer' vote... No.
Do we need them? Not in the current format. Oh, wow. You have an opinion. So does everyone else. How original. Do you have access to people and tech in the industry? Awesome, write about that! Are there games that are lacking in sales but totally worth our time because we "missed them?" Great, do an article about them. I love to find gems like that: It's why I bought Demon's Souls.
It made me sad how dark souls got so well known but demons souls before it was mostly ignored.
Dark souls was only made based on the praise of Demon Soul . So i get what you're saying but Demon Soul has it's special place in peoples hearts.
It's funny you mention that. I was thinking about Until Dawn today, and the power of social media. Until Dawn saw sales through positive word of mouth, while the game mostly went unnoticed by the gaming press. It received decent enough reviews, but no major gushing articles pro or con about it compared to the typical flame inciting big name exclusive from Sony or MS. It's pretty sad when the community can do more than the journalist, and these journalist who ask themselves if they are important when they can't even be bothered to support the industry by informing the public about things they are likely to enjoy. But once the popularity of UD rose, suddenly, all these journalist were all over it saying how good it was, or bad in some cases, while talking about how awesome it was the community was for spreading the word. It was pretty laughable really, when the game itself should have gotten a lot more media attention than it did, as it refined and even innovated the genre of interactive drama.
Calling them "journalists" is a pretty big stretch.
is this a trick question? lol actually, i think the problem is there are too many of them, so they have to resort to clickable
well do they even exist?there isnt much of journalism in the people who work or run a game site pretty much all of them just copy paste another site or tweet and then title the page/article with a question
too much BS based on JUST tweets, too. I'm old enough to remember a time where the entire purpose of a journalist was to take the time that others couldn't take (not enough of it with their real jobs) to get to the bottom of a story BEFORE publishing it. That's not the case. Sad!
I see more journalism from those who entered the gaming press as amateur reviewers or commentators. The big sites seem more focused on editorial. IGN, Kotaku, GameSpot, etc, do have some real journalist in their ranks, but that content is slim, and most of the non-clickbait stuff is still just press release relays. I also find this article more amusing considering it's coming from cheatcc....a site which has no journalistic standards or ethics whatsoever, and seems more prone to kissing the ass of a single entity of the industry, while downplaying or overly criticizing anything that is not from that company.
Needed, of course. Important, not as much as they think they are.
They're good for advertising and building a game's momentum but I have never found any of them outside of finding entertainment in Yahtzee Croshaw's videos and books.
its because most of these so-called journalists are doing it part time. meaning they're no better equipped to digest a bit of news than the rest of us.
I see more disdain coming from modern gaming journalists than I see positive promotion of games or gaming. It's not to say there isn't good stuff or reporters out there, but the bulk of content nowadays seems to be more about turning people against each other than it is about informing the public about games, the industry, or why we enjoy gaming to begin with. Sadly, I think the community forums tend to feed off this, so it's only gotten worse. I'm just as guilty of it as many others commenting on how much we think gaming journalist suck nowadays, but what's there to discuss in articles where no one is talking? That's why I don't speak much in articles about games anymore....because no one else responds, or even takes time to comment. Just seems pointless. It's also why I go through phases where I don't even bother to interact with the community, because I feel sometimes it's just not worth discussing the stuff we usually discuss.
Not for gamers, apart from a select few such as the writers and reviewers at digital foundry as one xample. No need for e vast majority, as there are forums and gameplay videos etc. However, maybe as a collective they help keep gaming out there to a certain extent.
Only if bunyons is a good thing to have then sure.
I think they are terrible for the most part.
I agree. I find most of them to be completely out of touch with most gamers opinions too.
Nah not really, easily brought and influenced. Gamer reception and word of mouth are better factors in making a decision.
Yo oldboy is a great movie, not the american one (idk maybe but i seriously doubt it and dont wanna watch it) Point is cool name.
Josh Brolin is a gun, but you are right - it isn't good. Love the Korean film 🍻
Just because you write something on a website doesn't make you a journalist.
Not particularly. They exist because we as gamers like to read about games. They need us far more than we need them.
nope cause they mostly pander
No. I don't look at game reviews from journalists anymore. YouTube lets play replaced them all for me. If I like what I see, I buy it.
When they look like HER they are! Hubba Hubba!!
I don’t think they are anymore for everyday news or gossip. I have set stand alone people I generally go to for updates and info. We’re gonna get all that even if they aren’t around. Publishers and studios can deliver their own news. Where I do see them still being good are events. It’s good to have a structured system in place at events where so many things are being announced or shown off. But other then that I don’t really see the need for them. Good question though.
Oddly enough, I can still get the news that's happening by coming here, despite most of the content being opinion pieces or click bait. Sadly though, I get it in a roundabout way by hearing about the fallout from any given news, and then have to back track to find out more information. Sometimes I don't care to do that, other times I feel it's worth it. It sucks that I have to go through so much effort though. I feel that game journalists are important, but I also feel that there isn't much journalism going on anymore, or it goes unnoticed in the face of copious editorial, so the question is rather moot to me. Better question is....is so much editorial needed nowadays considering the forum goers can offer up all that they have to offer, since the opinion pieces just seem like regurgitations of what other people are already saying most of the time, and at other times are just contrary flame bait opinions used to incite. It seems that the editorial isn't needed, because it's actually distracting to actual gaming news, thus the need for gaming journalists is mitigated because they can't often be heard.
CheatCC writes the most ironic articles about themselves.
I much prefer seeing the devs showcase their games in dev diaries. Netherrealm does a good Job at this and stuff like the prey live stream were fantastic. Nioh had great streams and betas. Sure it’s spoilers but it’s controlled spoilers and it’s much more informative/entertaining than some opinion piece from a writer that settled for gaming journalism. Or some activist that sees easy pickings on the gullible. We don’t need magazines anymore, we can follow Sony on twitter. It’s nice to have all of the news wrapped up in a nice package and I do appreciate the sites that go out of their way to do that. I hate twitter.
No, they're garbage.
Most video game journalists don't know a controller from a blender. The majority of them do not play the games they just read other articles watch a video or two and form their own opinion. Some of them you will listen to on a podcast or a video where they are discussing a game and it goes like,.... 1-"Hey, that Last of Us was a pretty amazing game wasen't it!" 2-"Oh yes it truly was, the environment and levels were utterly amazing. I spent hours getting lost within the game and just enjoying the immersion! " 1- "Ya,ya,... you're so right. It did suck when Joel's daughter Sarah died though. How did that make you feel?" 2-" Ummm well,... (cough cough)I didn't actually make it that far into the game yet." 1-"..................... ................ummmmmmm riiiiiiight."
"most game journalists".... yeah, that's a load of rubbish. Pretty sure what you've done is basically read a few comments, watched a YT personality or two and then formed your own opinion on game journalists ;) you know, without actually grounding anything you've said in logic or fact.
Of course they are... but unfortunately there are A LOT of complete idiots donning the game "journalist" cap because it's free to anyone with money for hosting.
Not really no
I'm old enough to remember when we didn't have them and gaming was doing just fine. In this day and age of social media and on-line bickering I suppose they do have their place. It's certainly the pulse of N4G because I never read much of anything regarding actual games. There are usually only arguments over some journalist's opinion.
Some do, but the majority of content I see is worthless, hackneyed write ups for either click bait or fanboy agendas (on both sides). The writing is pretty bad in general on a lot of articles (even a lot of the stories on this very site). Still some of the larger or more reputable rags have useful and informative write ups.
Real unbiased game journalism yes, problem is theres very little of that anymore, now its just any fanboy with a computer and internet access thinks he's a journalist.
They are journalist that play games. There is nothing special about them except there are way too many of them. It does not take a genius to write about their experience playing a video game. Nice self-patting of the back there game "journalist".
Only when they don't compromise their profession and do their job the RIGHT way. Tired of seeing decent games get a 3/10 because the competition paid them a few bucks to do so. Tired of seeing them bigup microtransactions because they are being paid to do so, anyone with a brain knows this is wrong. Tired of seeing them misrepresent games in media because it doesn't go with their narrative of what a game should be (Detroit: Become Human). So many things wrong with game jounalists it's like watching fox news expecting them to say something bad about trump.
I think qualified game journalists are important, unfortunately many aren’t qualified so to them I could do without.
Wtf, the self importance in this article lol ''Hey gamers, do you need clickbait and lousy articles about the latest ''controversies" ? Yes you do! You need us you hear me!'' Reporting on new game releases, changes made in games, some reviews, i.e actual information is fine, but that's all it should be. No politics or opinion blogs and the like.
Oh Jessica Chobot! I haven’t been to ign in a long time.
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