Plants vs Zombies Creator Fired by EA for Refusing Pay-to-Win System

A new report reveals the Plant vs Zombies creator George Fan was fired due to him not wanting to make PvZ2 pay-to-win.

[Nitrowolf2]

Well good for him for standing up for what he believes in.

This folks right here, is why we dont hear a lot of developers talking against it. This is just pathetic of Ea

FU EA

[mark_parch]

I never really get to much into the politics of gaming but I'm seriously thinking about boycotting battlefront 2 after hearing all the recent news

[InTheZoneAC]

waiting for a local gamestop to have a used copy in stock, EA's never getting a dime from me again. I haven't bought a disc for 7 years, EA is forcing me to buy used now.

[-Foxtrot]

Good for him. That takes balls when he probably knew he'd be fired for it.

He knew in the end this would get out and show gamers how they treat their studios, I mean we already know but joint onto the Battlefront II controversary it sends out an even stronger message.

This is how low they will go.

[SegaGamer]

If that is true, then it just proves everybody right when it comes to EA. They have done nothing good for gaming in years now. It's got to the point where i think we would be better without them.

[lxeasy]

This is why I don't buy EA games, such talented developers but cooperate heads at EA are filled with Greed. Those evil jerks

[NXFather]

Well some things won't change.

[The_KELRaTH]

You only have look at the wide range of games being sold in the 80' for Apple, Atari 8 bit and Commodore. The offerings were huge yet the market was relatively small.
Now the market is absolutely massive yet the selection of games is quite small due to the dominance of EA and Activision.
If you want real choice again you have to head to the tablet market!

[Sirk7x]

The amount of quality independent games is higher than it's ever been, and companies nowadays have many ways to directly interact with their audience almost instantaneously. I agree that a good portion of the AAA market is going to shit, but there are still many, many fantastic games to be played.

[showtimefolks]

Why you let EA buy you out now this is the price sadly

Valve's Gabe was right when there were rumored of EA wanting to buy valve Gabe said something almost the lines of Germany bought out by EA told and be fired in few years

EA I really do mean it I hope all your games suffer badly otherwise every publisher will become like you

Pandemic suffered the same fate

[combatcash]

Boycott?

[81BX]

Day 1!

[datriax]

Good god. EA never ceases to amaze what a cancerous pile of dogs**t they are. F**k EA, and everyone that works there.

PS. You rock for sticking to your guns George Fan.

[Username00278]

I worked there, Ea Vancouver twice. Yes it sucked, but it was a great experience over all.
Three AAA games under my belt.
I have bills to pay and mouths to feed.
F me? And all the others that work there?

[Silly gameAr]

A lot of gamers don't think of the devs that work at these companies that have to support their families. Most of what happens is out of the devs control, but hey f em' anyway I guess.

People say that gamers are the worse when it comes to this new outrage culture thing. That's not true for a lot of gamers out there, but some just want to watch the world burn if they don't get what they want, how they want it.

BTW datriax, this isn't directed at you, just saying some need to be just a bit more considerate, and place their anger towards the right people.

[Jinger]

I don't blame the developers for a lot of these corporate decisions. The developers put their hard work, sweat and tears into these games.

[FreddyFazbear]

He may not mean the devs, just caught up in the moment. I respect devs and I know you guys are not to blame but the higher ups, execs, stockholders etc. its their decisions

[NXFather]

I think he cleary mean't the corporate practices. If this is how you feel, you could just bluntly say that gamers are spoiled and don't support titles enough to avoid these practices instead of having us not sure why we should feel sorry for you. Although most anyone in your shoes is just going to do what needs to be done. So I definitely see part of your point.

[moomoo319]

@FreddyFazbear
Again, there are surely great devs at EA, but stop pretending imaginary suits are designing and implementing these pay-2-win systems. It is the developers, the ones who actually DEVELOP the game. The order may or or may not come from up top, but its the devs who need to figure out smart and fair ways to implement this shit. Its not impossible, plenty of other games get it right.

[Artemidorus]

Glad all this is exposing EA it's a corporate company buying out potential little companies and finding ways of squeezing money out of gamers until it's done then they disband them later on.

[BlahBlahWhatever]

EA is the cancer of VG industry, those who lead this shithole are some of the most rotten to the core human beings ever, they have so much money that they can buy new studios left & right & then they ruin them before they close them off for good & merge everything that left with them, so many talented people wasted trying to stand up on their feet again after a thing like that happen to their own company, anyone who spent money buying anything with the EA logo on top better to think it twice & thrice before, those fuckheads deserve only the middle finger of everyone on their face & nothing else, THE END.

[UCForce]

EA is always greedy in the end. Finally EA have been exposed.

[SkippyPaccino]

Who else pictures Microsoft taking notes "fire staff who refuse games as a service..."

[babadivad]

Seems like Sony is the one taking notes *cough* PlayStation Now *cough*.

[SkippyPaccino]

How is the Netflix of gaming anything like Games as a service?

Games as a service is those free to play models you see on smartphones where you have to pay to win... Something Microsoft has publically stated they're transitioning to...

Playstation now is a good service that will eventually become great with time and infrastructure upgrades.

[babadivad]

How is PS Now "Games as a Service"?? You can't even buy games from PS Now, only "rent" them. That's Games as a Service. It doesn't have to be Pay to Win to be Gaming as a Service. Take of your bias goggles.

And MS never said they were moving to a "pay to win" model.

[babadivad]

I meant, how is PS Now NOT "Gaming as a Services"??

You can't even buy games from PS Now, only "rent" them. That's Games as a Service. It doesn't have to be Pay to Win to be Gaming as a Service.

Kind of a double-post but I couldn't edit the mistake after 15.

[rocketpanda]

No, PS Now is a game service.

Games as a service are titles built around web and online infrastructures to keep their games relevant and for as long as possible. This can include patches, updates, DLC and expansions PS Now is just a service where you can play games from a library which are streamed.

[babadivad]

@Rockpanda

Dude you are arguing semantics

[TheVetOfGaming]

I wonder if there are any petitions regarding EA that gamers have made. Time to do some research.

[GtPawnSacrifices]

And Respawn was just bought up by EA :/
Not sure how that’ll play out as vince zampella is also against pay to win systems.
(For those who haven’t played it. All Titanfall 2’s dlc maps are free and the only micro transactions are purely cosmetic.)
Fingers crossed

[PCgamer98]

Microtransactions pretty much ruined pvz2.

[Prince_TFK]

Jesus, EA. One after another. Do you still have good public image anymore?

[NotAfanBoyy]

EAvil Corp strikes again.

[bluefox755]

Good for him for standing on principle, I have no doubt that another developer will grab him up. Hopefully this story gets legs.

[goldwyncq]

EA is the american version of Konami.

[agent4532]

More reason not to buy any $60.00 games with microtransanctions and loot boxes. Let's fight back and not buy those games

[Lonnie18]

Wow you know EA has destroyed a lot of my most beloved games! Plants vs Zombies, Dead Space, Mass Effect, and Burnout Paradise sigh...when will it stop?

[HyperMouse]

Havnt learnt then, but isnt PLants Vs Zombies a mobile game as well, all mobile games from what ive seen push hard on the grind for MT's

[Mikelarry]

Fucking EA

[moomoo319]

Very interesting, probably explains why PvZ 2 cant be purchased outright like the original and is built around an annoying freemium model.

[Tzuno]

Not good for them.

[Enate]

I'm not surprised I could immediately tell the difference. On one end you have PVZ1 which everyone I know enjoyed. To the mess that was PVZ2. They even altered the game after the review copies to make the game harder. So that review scores would feel like the game was balanced.

[medman]

He should write EA a nice thank you note, praising them for releasing him from their toxic environment of greed, shame, and douchebaggery, granting him freedom to live and breath fully liberated from EA's colossal bullspit.

[zb1ftw777]

FU EA.

I will buy All of George Fan's games just to stick it to EA.

[DillyDilly]

Respawn Is Next

[Relientk77]

EA are such garbage