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gangsta_red1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Holy sh!t if true....has EA heard the gaming community voice? Was it the reviews?

Very interesting if true, but I suspect something like this would require a lot of extra dev time and changing up of the design.

Hope it's true

Majin-vegeta1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

I think it was a little of everything.I was at my local GS earlier and i must have seen at least 10+ returning the game.

Now if we could all rally against all other games to get rid of lootcrates completely

Depending on what happens within the next few hours.I will gladly give them $60 for it tomorrow.

TyrellCorp1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Agreed, but I’m curious if Dice will attempt to somehow rework the mechanics of the game, or if it’ll just remain the exact same grind but without the ability to purchase content previously behind the pay wall. Either way a step in the right direction if true.

Apparently it’s a temporary decision: “EA has issued an official statement, confirming the removal of crystals. As such, and at the moment, every gear and Hero will be earned via progression. However, there is a catch. The publisher claimed that it will enable the ability to purchase crystals in-game at a later date. This will be done only after EA has made changes to the game. Therefore, it’s not a big win for customers. Or if you like it, it’s a win for all day-1 gamers!”

Same old EA BS

RpgSama1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Edit:
"Update: EA has issued an official statement, confirming the removal of crystals. As such, and at the moment, every gear and Hero will be earned via progression. However, there is a catch. The publisher claimed that it will enable the ability to purchase crystals in-game at a later date. "

Don't fall for it guys, they just want our day one purchase and they Will eventually put the crystals back in. F*CK EA!!! Was too good to be true

Magnetar1406d ago

Cosmetic loot boxes are fine. The way overwatch and titan fall handles it works great. That money makes it so new maps are free for everyone instead of having season passes or map packs.

yomfweeee1406d ago

You live at Gamestop? Find your story a bit hard to believe.

oof461406d ago

If they get rid of loot crates, then season passes come back.

King Nezz1406d ago

I agree we can dictate a lot that these big publishers do. While I'm not against publishers making extra money from games consumers have purchased, it has to be done right. DLC that adds to a game and isn't locked on the disc that has already been purchased, I'm ok paying for. But paying to strengthen your character or something along those lines is grimey.

bloop1406d ago

Unbelievable!! I thought they were finally going to give the gamers what they wanted!! When I first saw the headline I thought YES!! I'm going straight down to GameStop in the morning!! I knew it had to be too good to be true.

UltraNova1406d ago

I dont want to be negative, but (its EA we're talking about here) EA's latest statement says they're going to re-introduce the loot box system at a later date. So is this EA's tactic to bank as much money as they can up front?

Damn I really wanted to dive in this one but I guess my conciense prevails; I'll wait a couple months and see how things turn out.

4Sh0w1406d ago

Great, definite buy for me now.

bouzebbal1406d ago

Good job guys.. you finally understand that you can make your voice heard even against the most corrupt.
those guys have absolutly no power over you, you are the reason why they are the way they are and it is never too late!!!!
i have no interest in this game but hats off to the real gamers

MrBeatdown1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Learn to take a win.

Microtransactions will be back, but you all have no idea what form that will they will take.

I know gamers love being outraged, but can we just take the win and stop hating everything preemptively too?

Accept the fact that there isn't a developer or publisher that's going to give you a game with free DLC and not want to make some additional money.

R6ex1405d ago

Careful!

The official words from EA are "... The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date ..."

Thus, its only a temporary measure to suspend MT (and get us onboard to buy this game). Thus .....

Its a TRAP!

IamTylerDurden11405d ago

Yet ppl let Shadow of War get away unscathed..

IamTylerDurden11405d ago

Rpgsama

The game is being reworked. You can't just rip out MTs and expect the progression to be fine. EA is actually doing the right thing here. They are removing MTs until they can fix the overall system to make it less greedy and grindy. This is the right move.

fiveby91405d ago

Temporarily removing microtransactions is an interesting turn of events but far from any real victory for the gaming consumer public. EA is trying to figure out how they can navigate these waters. Most game publishing companies make the significant portion of the sales revenue at release. So by removing the MT's they hope to quell the concerns people may have upon release and draw everyone in.

Ever heard the saying "come into my den said the spider to the fly".

Now if EA permanently removed progression based MT's and timed mechanics in SP similar to f2p games then perhaps many would consider purchasing. But everyone is keyed in on the verbiage "temporarily removing". At best this is a wait and see but surely no day 1 purchase.

IaMs121405d ago

Sad its temporary, and wouldn't matter at that point since that would have your money so they could do whatever they'd like. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me... still not buying.

indysurfn1405d ago (Edited 1405d ago )

This happens when you vote loudly, and with money votes together.
No matter the few sellouts that defend this kind of crap we will always win.

Some will say "it is going to happen so except it" as long as you don't let your mind become defeated like theirs we will win. "It will happen, Except it" came from the executives. STOP REPEATING WHAT MARKETING EXECUTIVES PREACH!
Same thing happened with Microsoft's reveal. We won! They backed off too.

RacerX1405d ago (Edited 1405d ago )

I say you should still avoid this game. EA is backtracking, yes, but the next game will just have a more subtle and clever way of doing the same thing.

If everyone goes out and buys the game now, all EA learned was where the red line was, and they will back off just enough to keep bending over gamers.

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-Foxtrot1406d ago

First Microtransactions...now we just need rid of Loot boxes

See guys we complained enough they listened...imagine what we could do when we stick together

gangsta_red1406d ago

Three cheers for Foxtrot....

Hip hip....HOORAY
Hip hip....HOORAY
Hip hip....HOORAY

PygmelionHunter1406d ago

Yet people are okay with paying to play online for games they already bought (Gold, PS+)... SMH

fenome1406d ago

Hell yes, let's do this!

We're a force to be reckoned with if we all actually unite and stand up together.

It's awesome to actually see gamers on all different sides agreeing on something as well. Very refreshing difference :)

StormLegend1406d ago

@PygmelionHunter No one likes that either, but at least GWG and PS+ offer you free games each month with deals and free items like themes and Avatars. What does this offer you? Nothing!!! Paying for online isn't the same.

XiNatsuDragnel1406d ago

Lootbox destruction is what we want

1Victor1406d ago

We speak with our wallets and they’ll listen just look what happens when people spoke against daily online check and no used game they listen and changed for the better

victorMaje1406d ago

When gamers unite, gamers always win!

LiamKreptic1405d ago

Don’t buy it...they said they will add crystals at a later date after changes...DO NOT BUY IT!!!!

AnubisG1405d ago (Edited 1405d ago )

Exactly. We should start thinking on creating a gamers alliance of some sort that will oppose evil business practices like this whenever it rears it's head.

paradigmfellow1405d ago

This is just a battle. The real war is still going on. EA said it will bring it back.

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hench071406d ago

It was the "armchair developers"

Majin-vegeta1406d ago

It was the "People who keep my arse employed"

Fixed

Mikelarry1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

If you read the official statement they will be back at a later date but yet people are quick to cheer

Edit
And I qoute from official statement

"The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date, only after we’ve made changes to the game. We’ll share more details as we work through this"

fenome1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Yeah, I'm not buying their bullshit either way. They just want those day one buyers for the books and then they'll patch that shit in once the dust settles.

They don't deserve Star Wars. Hopefully sales on all of EA's Star Wars games decline enough to where they won't keep paying for the license and someone else who will respect it can start making real games in that universe.

Edit:

If people feel they absolutely must play it I'm sure you'll be able to find used copies in a week or two on the cheap, what's the hurry?

-Foxtrot1406d ago

LOL

So basically to trick people to sell a few more copies

Weeblordbad1406d ago

@Mikelarry
What do you expect? 90% of the people on this site aren't capable of carrying a conversation, did you expect them to actually read a statement?

@Foxtrot

You might want to edit the post above with you patting your back huh?

Cyro1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

I hope this isn't the case of buy now and get screwed later. Still hesitant to buy the game until they confirm the only thing purchasable is cosmetics.

Majin-vegeta1406d ago

You can always buy used if youre hesitant in for the future.

ZehnDrachen1406d ago

It only talked about the crystals. The loot crates and childish ‘star cards’ are still in the game.

HyperMouse1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

They are coming back once the situation has been forgotten

gangsta_red1406d ago

Yea, saw that...oh well, a small battle won in the long war...I guess...

Cobra9511405d ago (Edited 1405d ago )

I'm guessing they'll also change them to be less objectionable. I think other publishers have taken notice too. Consumers won't put up with so much abuse. That's probably the bigger victory for us.

Ceaser98573611406d ago

Don’t hold your breath. Its EA we’re talking about here. They may be pulling another almighty “fuck you” out off their sleeve. They can’t be trusted...... yet.

oof461406d ago

Now everybody go after Activision!

DarXyde1406d ago

Don't be surprised if EA finds a way to make gamers regret this.

It only looks like the consumer has won, but I wouldn't say this is over.

gangsta_red1406d ago

Unfortunately it's not, EA is changing things up it seems but will be adding them back.

I suspect they're trying to figure out another way to implement these crystals that wont cause as much heat as they received currently.

MatrixxGT1405d ago

Yep, just like online passes. People bitched about those and now look at what we have. EA said, no more online passes and gamers cheered "We Won". Now you get something way worse.
Honestly, id rather bump the base price $20 and get the extra effort put into it to make it as good as possible.

Spenok1406d ago

It is true, this comes straight from the EA Blog;

https://www.ea.com/games/st...

Palitera1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Hope what is true? It's just another obvious PR stunt. FFS!

tdogg060519911406d ago

It's temporary and coming back

UCForce1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Then we keep the hate train on going. Because this will make EA thick skull to change their behavior toward the consumers. And it will also make major publishers like Ubisoft, Activision, 2K and among others think twice about this.

TimelessDbz1406d ago

This is a lost for the fans for battle front 2. I guaranteed you that since the game has no form of income from a season pass or microtransactions future updates will either be bad or not even finish. Just because of no income.

andrewsquall1406d ago

You are right, so in the end, because of EA, this is a loss for the fans.

Miss_Vixen1406d ago

UPDATE:

EA has issued an official statement, confirming the removal of crystals. As such, and at the moment, every gear and Hero will be earned via progression. However, there is a catch. The publisher claimed that it will enable the ability to purchase crystals in-game at a later date. This will be done only after EA has made changes to the game. Therefore, it’s not a big win for customers. Or if you like it, it’s a win for all day-1 gamers!

PapaBop1406d ago

Only temporarily.. for all we know, they could quite easily put them back in with minor adjustments. Hate to be that negative person but they already did the whole PR "we're listening" after the beta backlash and did very little to change things back then.

It's still encouraging and a huge step in the right direction but it still doesn't change the fact the game still contains one of the worst progression systems in a modern online FPS. Spend 20 hours playing x class only to potentially get upgrades for y class.. who at Dice seriously thought this was a good idea?

Diffraction_Fos1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Oh please. This is EA we're talking about. You really think they'll remove their cash cow completely without having some sort of insurance that they'll be able to recoup the lost potential revenue from MTs later down the line? You'd have more chance of flying to Pluto with nothing but your farts to propel you.

khdaface1405d ago

its temporary
"The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date"

https://www.ea.com/games/st...

CorndogBurglar1405d ago

They may have removed MT's but did they change how long it takes to unlock characters?

Removing MT's is only part of it. If it still takes 40 hours to unlock Vader and other heroes then that is still a big problem.

IamTylerDurden11405d ago

It's a 79 meta on PC, imagine how high reviews would be without the MTs.

galgor1405d ago

It's only temporarily to get people to buy it, don't be fooled.

Imalwaysright1405d ago

Probably the attention of some gambling comissions or maybe pressure from Disney.

subtenko1405d ago

They are just gonna backstab you some other time in the near or far future.....just watch...they will sucker people in

Captain_Tom1405d ago

I think DICE is taking this ultra seriously. They are fed up now that they have launched 2 Battlefronts in a row with bad reviews. I am sure EA is breathing down their necks that they are screwing up what was gonna be their biggest IP, and at the same time DICE actually does want this to be a good game.

Furthermore it's clear from previous interviews that DICE was planning on bringing this business model to Battlefield 2018. But now that this has happened they probably aren't sure about what they should do, and they know they only have like 6 months of tinkering to figure out the ideal system for their next game.

joab7771405d ago

I will get hate but they didn’t have to do that. They need to separate them from star cards and progression. They can offer cool cosmetics etc. Because I know that the next move will be to stop making these games. I’d prefer something like AC Origins or Overwatch. I hate micros and I’d love to see an industry wide removal, but now we will see paid dlc again etc. I’d rather just have the option to change outfits and decide how much i like the game. If I spend $60 and find I play it for 200+ hrs, I will gladly spend money to support them more. But it needs to be our choice.

Or add in game cosmetic items that can also be purchased. Leave loot boxes to random gifts or something.

SierraGuy1405d ago (Edited 1405d ago )

That was a cool trailer though...lol. Shareholders upset much? For such smart people they are so stupid. Do we look stupid EA?

LandoCalrissiano1405d ago

"reviews". Nothing like a bandwagon down vote based on loud mouth crying.

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AspiringProGenji1406d ago (Edited 1406d ago )

Unless there’s a catch or plotwist somewhere...👀

Epic Win for Gamers!!