The Evil Within 2 Runs at 1800P on Xbox One X and 1260P on PS4 Pro

Bethesda released official details on The Evil Within 2's new update, which allows the game to run at 1800P on Xbox One X and 1260P on PS4 Pro, respectively.

[ccgr]

Nice! Can't wait to get my Xbox One X!

[conanlifts]

Just picked mine up. I lived in a small town that usually has minimal queues for launches. There were 30 people waiting and i was told i would be that busy all day as orders were huge.

[conanlifts]

Lol, I get down votes for telling people there were large queues at my local store when collecting my xbox (BTW I live in Australia so if the down votes are for people thinking I could not have been collecting it that is why). But I am sure if my store is anything to go by then there will be photos online soon enough showing the queues when it releases worldwide. Personally I really was not expecting these large queues.

[Old McGroin]

You got down votes because internet folk like to downvote stuff, no point trying to figure out why, you would need to delve pretty far down in to the human psyche to find the answer.

[spreadlove]

My local Best Buy said it was the biggest preorder of any console they ever had. I was like dang!

[XStation4pio_Pro]

I love mine. It’s fantastic. Everything looks so much sharper smoother and even more colorful.

[Many-hat5]

That's a pretty big leap from standard consoles to Pro and X. That's good isn't it? What's the issue here?

[ZeroX9876]

The only "Issue" is that I guess some were expecting the same performance for both upgraded consoles, but you're paying more for The X than the Pro. Only make sense that you would get better performance on the higher cost hardware.

Why is it so hard to understand for some, no clue. Except with the original X1 bundled with kinect, usually you get better performance the more you pay.

[hulk_bash1987]

I mean how is this not getting into some people's heads? I own a pro and I more than accept that the Xbox One X will win out almost every time when it comes to multiplatform performance. Let's all move on and enjoy the games that every one gets to play on their platforms of choice. Jezzus some people act like it's the end of the world.

[Sunny_D]

Especially since the X decided to come out a whole year and a half after announcement. It only took 4 years for Microsoft to release it... oh and I guess the whole thing about Phil Spencer saying “Play games, not pixels” has been forgotten? Lmao

[ZeroX9876]

@hulk_bash1987
completely agreeing with you, there's so many games to play, no need to envy another platform.

@Sunny_D
Just like the always online, yes it's been forgotten. Xbox needed some changes and this is exactly what they're trying to do. If Xbox owners care more about their money going in R&D to develop a better hardware rather than budgeting new games, so be it. It's a choice and nothing's wrong with it. Plus, most Xbox owners I know plays mainly third party games, so the X is a big plus for them!

[NeoGamer232]

And the fact it is released a year after PS4 Pro

[freshslicepizza]

Well it's nice to see so much interest in people wanting better performance.

[tontontam0]

These xbox fanboys are hypocrites they pay more to get better performance, but when pc gamers pay more to get better performance they mock pc gamers.

[Captain_Tom]

I mean I think the truth is in the middle:

1) XBOX fans need to calm down. I get that you are desperate for resolutions above 720p, but it's not like the XBX is insanely powerful. It's just 1 year newer than the PS4 Pro and more expensive. So yeah it's stronger lol.

2) Playstation fans shouldn't doubt that the new XBX is the strongest console. IT IS. But that's ok lol. It costs more, and honestly the PS4 Pro is more efficient. But again the XBX should ALWAYS have at least slightly higher performance than the PS4 Pro because it is a tad simpler and brute force stronger.

P.S. TLoU 2 will still be the best looking game of this gen...

[spreadlove]

hulk,

There should be no cases where the Xbox One X doesn't win against PS4 Pro. If it is, it is the developers fault, because of the raw power is astounding. #FeelTruePower

[GamingSinceForever]

These are a bunch of morons you're questioning. Most of them likely only have a 1080p TV and they'd still argue the difference between anything above 1080p as if they could really see the difference.

Unless you have both systems running side by side, the resolution that you see would be perfect you fine.

This ish is exhausting really.

[zoweyecex]

I quit working at shoprite and now I make $35h - $80h...how? I'm working online! My work didn't exactly make me happy so I decided to take a chance on something new… after 4 years it was so hard to quit my day job but now I couldn't be happier. Heres what I do, •••••••••>> http://tiny.cc/online-jobs-...

[CoryHG]

LOL no the issue continues to be ms lying. Its not true 4k gaming, its just as dynamic as ps4 pro

[MattE]

Actually.. it's still almost a 100% increase from the Pro.. so there you go .. it's not a high end Pc but it's far beyond the console competition

[CoryHG]

PlayStation Pro ads even state Dynamic. Xbonerx states native or true. It's blatant.

[Smokingunz]

So why does the x look way better then? Do u even have an x?

[Wotbot]

Damn that’s a jump from the Pro. The X is definitely the place for console multi platform gaming.

[Prince-Ali]

but its not 4k..? loool

[constantine_man]

So? I mean, the PS4 Pro was literally advertised as "dynamic 4k" console so I don't see the issue here.

[Prince-Ali]

of course.... but it's not been a console hyped to hell and back... duhh

[OC_MurphysLaw]

X getting better performance over the Pro shouldn't surprise anyone.

[CoryHG]

BUT not getting 4k is

[constantine_man]

Not sure how that is surprising. Where did Microsoft say that every game would be native 4k?

[ZeroX9876]

@Feldman9000

4K for some titles, but we all know that graphics are always getting better, so the 4K statement will fade out as time goes by.

Won't change the fact that the X graphics are better.
Just like it won't change the fact that Sony brings more exclusives and diversity with Playstation.

Judging from your comments, you prefer more titles over hardware performance, which is exactly my preference also.

[NoPeace_Walker]

Feldman,
"BUT not getting 4k is"

The Pro is 1260p. Let say if the XB1X is native 4K for instance, that would of made the PS4 Pro seems even more inferior than what it already is compared to the X. Ask yourself this, does it make Pro owners happier about their investment to see a 540p disadvantaged of 1260p vs 1800p or a 800p disadvantage of 1260p vs 2160p?

[DarXyde]

Ask yourself this, were Xbox gamers happier about their investment to see sub-1080p resolutions as a standard in gen 8?

I think the answer is probably the same to both of our questions, depending on who you are. My answer? I don't care. I don't own a Pro, but I do own an Xbox One. I don't care that it's 900p. I don't care if PS4 has better resolution and visual fidelity. Naturally, I don't care about a 540p advantage. I love my PS4, but resolution was never a deal breaker for me. I game for fun and I see everyone obsessing over such superficial nonsense. You're literally paying for these consoles again because you want more pixels (or frame rate which I can get behind, but you'll never have 4K/60fps if the normal version isn't 60fps). Nothing about this screams savvy consumerism. We're all losers if this catches on because it sets a bad precedent.

If y'all want your graphics, good on you. Enjoy your stuff. But it's pretty damn sad to see everyone being hypocrites. Resolution didn't matter, now it does. Native resolution always mattered, now it doesn't.

Give me a break, keyboard badasses. Play your games and be humble about it. That's so hard for some reason.

[Felsager]

"X getting better performance over the Pro shouldn't surprise anyone."

True, but this type of news makes Asperger dumbass xbots burst like drama drag queens justifying their purchase. Its painful to see butthurt xbots spend 500 dollars on a '3DO' console without exclusive and watch the same emo snowflakes ejaculate nonsense on PS4 threads.

C:

[OC_MurphysLaw]

nonsense pretty much sums up many posts on N4G....including yours.

[Weeblordbad]

If you planned on buying a console, saw it performing well with software you already owned wouldn't you be excited? To think anyone expressing excitement or interest in the One X means they're a fan boy only highlights your own bias and insecurity.

The OneX was always going to outrun the Pro. What matters is how it's supported with third party titles and how Microsoft's own first party work develops. Getting bent out of shape because some people get over excited is just... Really sad.

[Felsager]

@weeblord:

You get a new consoles for the following reasons:
1. Exclusives.
2. First party support.

Why spend 500 dollars plus 400 dollars on two xbox with a weak library of games. Yes power matters when there is a reason to use it. Why should anyone spend 500 dollars at the end of the generation when MS felt short of exclusives?

See.

[Bhai]

So the 'uncompressed pixels' argument is failing already...

Pro's price cut is imminent... gonna upgrade soon, and if its anything like 299-349 dollars,
its already an overkill... the 6TF-box would then be a 500-dollar patch machine with "occasional" 4K textures in a "few" multiplatform titles only... way to go MS ;) hehehe!
...
Anyways, still nothing to topple HZD or the looming TLOU2 visually... and as they say, and I don't play... still the GT Sports is beating anything HDR offering from xb1x so far...

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Sony should just remove 4K from their box.
All these strange resolutions 1260, 1428p, 1720p.

[CP_Company]

why? PS4 don't support 4k? or 4k tvs?

[Sunny_D]

So technically I guess the Xbox One X as welll?

[LP-Eleven]

If that's the case, so should Microsoft, since they will also have fluctuating resolutions. But, because we know that's absolute nonsense, thankfully, nobody should take that, nor you, seriously.

OT: As expected, The evil Within 2 is quite a demanding game fro consoles. That's what I take away from this. Never mind the "TRUE 4K" stuff (which was never going to be the case for either home console).

[ZeroX9876]

As long as Native isn't directly stated, 4K tag will stay there. Be it dynamic or not.

Most consumers won't see the difference anyway, except more knowledgeable gamers.

[andrewsquall]

@343_Guilty_Spark Yet you have barely being making use of a 2006 1080p TV this past 4 years so why do you think you are the person to discuss something like this lol?

[lolosgolos]

Lol slaughter

[PiCOSMOiP]

@343_Gulity_Spark
Yeah PS4 Pro advertisement on Dynamic 4K is a joke. People might as well stick with a regular PS4.

[Tazzy]

Then Xbox should remove 4k to the only thing thats native 4k on the console right now are enhancements of Xbox One games nothing new I mean Phil Spencer thinks . Phil said PS4PRO isn't a true 4k gaming console but his Xbox is because they offer Xbox One games to be enhanced wheres those Xbox games that are only on the Xbox One X that are built to be played on the Xbox One X only??? And the console does checkerboarding and people compare it to a high end PC well high end PCs don't do checkerboarding all games are native 4k.

https://www.theverge.com/20...

[DarXyde]

You were saying the same thing last year about Microsoft's One S 4K claims, right?

The difference is Pro is actually capable of 4K. Not often, but it's capable. One S is not.

[Jinger]

HZD and TLoU 2 trailer are gorgeous, but its foolish to think that Halo 6 and Gears 5 aren't going to take full advantage of the 1X. Gears 4 already looks amazing in Native 4k with the 4k assets, lets see how the next game will look being programmed with the new Xbox hardware.

[Vedo]

Nope, they have to keep the OG Xbox in mind, so all you will get is an OG Xbox game upscaled to 4K with some better textures. But nothing ground-breaking.
If they would make a Xbox X exclusive - those graphics could be sweet, but it won't happen.

[Jinger]

@Vero

So false. We are even seeing 3rd party giving the 1x 4k assets as well as 4k resolution unlike ps4 pro... so if you think that 1st party games wont take full advantage of the hardware then you arent very bright

[DarXyde]

That is literally one of two ways I would ever buy a Pro:

Appealing price and/or my vanilla PS4 drops dead. I do have a sibling that wants a PS4 though. I could always invest in a slim and they can keep the vanilla. Feels a little late in the generation for me to justify upgrading though. Doesn't help the hardware isn't really utilized.

[constantine_man]

This is the most fanboyish thing I've read all day.

[Brisco]

It hurts doesn't it? I feel ya dude. I'm back to how it should be. Exclusives on the pro and the rest on the X.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

2440 * 1260 = 3,628,800 pixels.

Vs

3200 * 1800 (3.5K) = 5,760,000 pixel.

What is that like a 37% increase in pixels? Sorry that is nothing to scoff at.

[AnubisG]

That's actually 37%. Not 70%.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Typo.
Fixed.

[AnubisG]

A typo you say?🤔

[Cenblarke]

It’s a 59% increase. He was more correct than you. Check before making a fool out of yourself.

[AnubisG]

@Cenblarke

If 5,760,000= 100% than 1% is 57,600.
So 3,628,800 = 63% that means the difference is 37%.

What 59% are you talking about?

[AnubisG]

@Cenblarke

I think I know how you got 59%

You took 3,628,800 as 100%. In that case you are right. It is 58.7% increase.

[Cenblarke]

Sorry for my rudeness though. I was in a terrible mood in work...

[AnubisG]

No worries man.

[Jinger]

People are acting like the difference is 900p vs. 1080p which is a lot smaller gap than the one you presented.

[Lexreborn2]

Originally, it was 720p vs 1080p until original Xbox got overclocked and removed extra OS's to free up resoures to run games at 900p

[Sonic_Vs_Mario]

@Lexreborn2

Please name a game that's 720p on Xbox One and 1080p on PlayStation 4?

The resolution difference was 900p vs 1080p or 720p vs 900p - only a few games was 720p on Xbox One

[DarXyde]

Sonic_Vs_Mario,

I'll give you four:

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Golf Club, and PES '15.

They exist. Probably poor optimization, but they do exist. You are correct in saying that only a few games are 720p on Xbox One, but you also said to name a game...and I did.

Those are multiplatform titles though. Otherwise, there's the games I already mentioned plus ARK, Battlefield 4, Dead Rising 3, Star Wars: Battlefront, if you want to count Titanfall which was 792p, Watch Dogs, and Quantum Break.

Do I care? Not really. But it's worth pointing out for the sake of the argument, I guess.

[DrJones]

Sonic_Vs_Mario

This just in: Sonic Forces runs at 720p on Xbox One and 1080p on PS4 according to Digital Foundry

[DrJones]

@Sonic vs Mario

Call of Duty Ghosts and the Pro Evolution Soccer series

[constantine_man]

I love how PS4 fanboys made the difference between 720p and 1080p seem like it was night and day, yet it was only a little over a million pixel difference. Yet here when the difference between 1260p and 1800p is nearly 3 million pixels, all of a sudden its "no big deal".

[Lexreborn2]

Yet, 720p is concidered hd(sub hd or hd ready) 1080p is considered Full HD. Also, being the start of a new generation and people expected Full HD. Right now people don’t have expectations in displays because 4K still isn’t common in households so yeah at the turn of a generation it matters.

Right now people want a stable 1080p 60frames more then they want 4K 30. It’s a desire of a spoken few. Mostly people who are looking for ammunition for a war that isn’t happening.

[LateNightThirst]

Thats quite a massive difference in resolution, but I really do hope they go beyond just a resolution bump and improve shadows and texture quality.

[Bhai]

Yeah, will love to see something that crosses over just resolution...
even the base PS4 offering of some exclusives beat everything on any system (Horizon etc.)
... putting Mahjong in 4K doesn't mean it even beat Second Son, a PS4 launch window title heh heh ;)

[LateNightThirst]

WTF are you talking about? Its the same game, their not going to run a different renderer for the One X version lol

[Bhai]

@LateNight
Wasn't talking about this one in particular, but still, the way they did with Shadow of War, by patching in 4K textures, now that's a deal... but its too few and far in between... just 1 game and built from ground up...
...
Oh golly those 50+ gb patches are another heck xb1x has to wade through... don't see this bird flying honestly!

[Vertigo15]

Well i guess almost 4k is better than almost 2k

[Bhai]

yeah, but 4K Tetris is 'Just.No.Way' better than 2K BloodBorne ... Like EVA!
...
And THAT has been the point from like, ever!

"Industry-leading exclusives + decent multiplatform versions" = The Winning Machine!
Is it so hard for MS to understand?

[DialgaMarine]

Still not “uncompromised Native 4K/ 60 FPS” like Xbox and their cheerleaders were claiming. So much for that “True 4K experience”.

[LP-Eleven]

I know they'll backtrack now, but many Xbox supporters ran with that narrative until Phil changed his tune on Checkerboard Rendering. Now, the narrative is: "well, 1800p is more pixels than the Pro's 1260p". Well, "No Duh, Sherlock", it's got 4GB more RAM and a stronger GPU.

They then run when PC is brought up. Rinse and Repeat.

[DialgaMarine]

The X is about what a year’s worth of improvement’s would bring, for hardware that still costs more. Despite the extra RAM, games will not be fundamentally different. They oversold the crap out of this thing.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

If this game was made on 360 it wouldn’t be fundamentally different. You’d do the same crap it would just be less prettier.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Still better than FauxK

[DialgaMarine]

This is “Faux K”, genius. Anything that isn’t running natively 3840 x 2160, or higher, isn’t real 4K, even if it’s upscaled or checkerboarded. You Xbox cheerleaders spent the last year talking about how sub-2160p checkerboarding is “Faux K”, so you literally just shot yourself in the foot with that statement lol

[DarXyde]

BOTH CONSOLES ARE "FAUXK" HERE WHAT POINT ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO MAKE

Please tell me you understand why your statement is just asinine. Please.

[Gazondaily]

Lmao! You must be REALLY disappointed with the Pro then? Unless you went in with low expectations

[DialgaMarine]

Actually no. See, unlike X, Pro was never marketed to me as an “uncompromised TRUE 4K console that could run the majority of it’s games in native 4K/ 60 FPS”. I bought a Pro because I have a 4K screen, and I actually game on Playstation quite a lot. Hasn’t disappointed me so far. You can deflect and say “oh you’re just butthurt that Pro isn’t as good duhurr”, but it doesn’t change the fact that you Xbox kiddies spent the last year and a half overselling the hell out of this thing, and now it’s probably going to crash and burn, since there’s literally no real benefits to owning one.

[DrJones]

Never guaranteed 60 fps

[Weeblordbad]

Not sure where the 60fps stuffs coming from. That's an insane claim even for a marketer.

[Elda]

It's known already that XBOX will not be displaying every single game in native 4k including 60fps,it's internal make up is not of a high end PC. 37% more pixels then the Pro is no deal breaker,will continue to play this on my Pro.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Well it’s double the pixels with several other games.

[Elda]

Nothing I've seen on the XBOX is a deal breaker for me but slightly increased resolution when compared is really minute. Seeing as of now that it has no new XBO jaw dropping exclusives out for the X to showcase nor on the horizon there's no need for me to buy this when I can spend 500 usd on upcoming jaw dropping exclusives from the PS4 that looks better than most multi plats out right now including buying multi plats for the Pro.Do enjoy your XBOX but I'm not missing out on anything far as the X is concerned.

[kstuffs]

btw 59% more pixel

[Weeblordbad]

Math is hard.

[crazyCoconuts]

That's more than double the pro pixels! Wow. Wonder if this will be consistent across titles, or if this is just poorly promised optimized for the Pro...

[sizeofyou]

PS4 people - accept like I do that, as you've been enjoying best version of multiplats AND far greater support of exclusives for the last 3 years, the best multiplats has gone to newer hardware. You still get to play 97.5% of that software but get the added bonus of Sony exclusives still...
Zealots on both sides are tedious. Play the bl00dy games!!

[foster426]

Exactly. Games will still play the same way they've been playing on the PS4/Pro. Just fine. New hardware doesn't make the current hardware worse than it was.

[Bhai]

C'mon dears,
"Industry-leading exclusives + decent multiplatform versions" = The Winning Machine!
...
Its a no brainer... PS4 for the gen!

[Weeblordbad]

This "community" is garbage, they don't/won't/can't understand what you're saying even if the evidence has been smacking them in the face for years.

They're just games, play things, leisure activities. If someone is happy with the Pro, PS4, XB1 or X it shouldn't really matter. It's a non essential hobby, arguing over this stuff is the most insane thing you can do on the internet.

[_LarZen_]

One more game I will play on X instead of the Pro.

[HeyNowChillax]

As long as it hits 60FPS 1080p with Ultra equivalent settings, I'm sold. Gears 4, Evil Within 2 (unlocked FPS waiting for test), Tomb Raider, Elite Dangerous are confirmed. I can only hope most if not all games have this feature. More developers seems to be offering it.

I wonder what the majority prefers. 4K 30fps or 1080p 60fps

[PlayableGamez-]

So the #ResolutionGate is back.

[ZeroX9876]

not really,
Now you're paying $100 more and you get better performance than the competition
VS
at launch, you paid $100 more and you had worse performance than the competition
(Kinect or not, we all saw how it turned out so...)

Now it make sense.

[Imalwaysright]

You paid more because you were getting the kinect and the X1. You weren't paying more because of what was inside the X1.

[Imalwaysright]

It is? Haven't heard about it since the then Scorpio was announced.

[UltimateRacer]

A true 4K machine they said, they've even marketed it as that, turns out it's false, and $500 for this, no thanks.

[Tazzy]

Same with me I have the Xbox One S and I don't want to play enhanced games I want to play new ones that aren't running on an old game engines I want a game that does native 4k 30-60fps. I want to see if the Xbox One X can do what they say it can do and doing it with games that are already on Xbox One, Xbox 360 and the Original Xbox aren't showing me anything.

[constantine_man]

PS4 Pro was advertised as a "Dynamic 4K" console.

[corroios]

The point here isnt the PRO, because the PRO isnt being launch at 7 of november of 2017, doesnt cost 500 and sony never told it was a true 4k beast.

The reality is that a 500 console cant do 4k like it was told so many times. Sony didnt used the word beast for 18 months straight in every ocasion it got.

Tons news comparing it to high end gaming PC's and saying its better, closing the gap and PR crap like that.

I would like to know the word for the next console that can do 4k in all games? Super blue Beast? Mystic Beast? Ultra Instinct Beast? Mega Beast

[Mulando]

It can do, but it is up to devs.
If it would be a 12TF beast, even than it wouldn't output 4k at all times, just because some developers would use the performance to improve the eye-candy instead of resolution. Resolution is really a cheap trick to improve image quality, but brutal for performance. I want to see 1080p titels with as much eye-candy it can do with the full performance of the machine.
But actually I want to play great games and not great graphics :)

[corroios]

12 teraflop wouldnt out put 4k every time? Lol , dude you dont know what you are talking about. 3 times the pro power, well i hope the ps5 reaches that 12 teraflops mark

By the way 9 teraflops is what many studio and cerny have told is needed. Not crazy 12

[Mulando]

@corroios
How old are you?
If you have more compute-power you can use it for everything. resolution doesn't really matter until a certain point. With the Next-gen we also won't get 4k all the time. At first maybe but over time resolution will drop in favour of some better effects.
With 12TF you may output everything we have today at 4k, but today is something that's old tomorrow. Look at the Titans of nvidia. Even they can't output everything at 4k 60fps. If you give developers power, they will decide what to do with it.
Btw, we can already see that PS4 Pro is neering the 1080p again and PS4 goes under 1080p ... but even at 720p you still can get some amazing graphics.

[Redlife2g]

Am I the only person concerned that a few games have been mentioned so far that can't reach the 4k res??

[zb1ftw777]

Yes. Yes you are.

[Redlife2g]

Well if you're buying one you should be too.

[Skankinruby]

Lol no you're not, once these consoles hit peoples homes and the reality of the 'superior' specs the X supposedly has is exposed the hype for this thing will fall flat on its face

[jojo319]

I need to start a drinking game where "TLOU" or "HZD" are mentioned in articles that have nothing to do with them.

[Tazzy]

They're mentioned because those games look better than anything on Xbox One X what you see in The Last of Us 2 are the same graphics that will be offered in game. I seen people coming to articles about GT Sport that were just about GT Sport and they mentioned Forza 7 looking so amazing it works both ways.

[Imalwaysright]

People said the same about the infamous Uncharted 4 reveal and there was a clear downgrade between that reveal and the actual game.

[Imalwaysright]

Yes the same was said about Uncharted 4 reveal. Hell ND said that the goal was for the game to look better than it and yet there was a clear downgrade by the time of its release http://egmr.net/2014/06/unc...

I know that ND cutscenes are in real time and use the same assets as the gameplay portions but that doesn't mean that what we saw in that trailer is what we'll get by the time it releases. For all we know it could look better than the trailer

As for the X1X what we're seeing are its 1st games. There is room for devs to improve and with scalable engines who knows what 1st and 3rd party devs will do with it. Better looking games than anything on the pro are a possibility.

[Tazzy]

Imalwaysright Uncharted looks better than any game on Xbox One and The Last of Us 2 looks even better than that and what was shown in the trailer is all in game. Knowing about Uncharted 4 you should know the cut scenes are what the game looks like when playing it same with the Last of Us 2 what you see in the trailer is what you'll get in game.

[Condemnedman]

just seen an advert for the pro on TV saying 4k console nearly spat my tea out blantent false advertising . there was some small print saying it varies on certain games lol

[UltimateRacer]

But there are games that run in native 4K on the Pro so it's not false advertising at all, it also does vary from game to game so there adverts are completely on point.

[Condemnedman]

yes some games but they are not telling the truth are they if ms did that it would be hell. the media should point it out and Sony should make it clear its not a proper 4k console hell it can't even play 4k uhd on disc

[Rhythmattic]

Condemned man
So 4K capable PC's that can't play 4K Uhd disc's aren't proper 4k machines............
Right.. Got it.

[ASBO-5]

And the PS4P still looks better. Damn, I am almost beginning to feel bad for ol M$

[jojo319]

You shouldn't. MS is worth over 400 billion.

[datriax]

Is there really any need for the "P" after these resolutions anymore? I mean...... when was the last game that came out that runs in interlaced mode? Surely long enough ago, to warrant not worrying about including the (P)rogressive suffix.

[DrJones]

P for pixels

[Father__Merrin]

will be the definitive version for sure. but ps4 version is sufficient imo. the difference isnt worth buying a new console

[XStation4pio_Pro]

more quality pixels indeed.

[PhantomPat]

On my side i'm waiting to buy the xbox one x, the day there will THE EXCLUSIVE that will be the day or maybe if there's a huge difference between a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 (Not coming to PC) so this time Xbonex will have the better version there will have temptation. For this time i'll stay with my pc, ps4 pro and xbone s. The Good news is now pc games will become more great in visual ... a better gap. (Sorry for bad english).

[Drakul]

ps4 pro is a hoax unless you gonna use VR.

[Instantnoodles88]

So glad I picked up the Xbox version.

[mmj]

The trouble for Microsoft is most gamers are still using 1080P displays and PS4 Pro is 30% cheaper, if 4K was mainstream they might have had a winner.

[Sonic_Vs_Mario]

The difference is every existing games on Xbox One X is superior when playing on 1080p, 1440p and 4K displays compared to the original Xbox one console. PlayStation 4 Pro plays the same as the original PS4 console on 1080p displays.

[LucidIllusion]

People really need a sense of advantage to live. Man, people are pathetic. X got nice specs, but there many reasons I like Sony brand more usually than the competition.

[FallenAngel1984]

Makes you wonder what resolution 9th PlayStation and Xbox consoles will run at

[Stanjara]

True 4k...but there is gona be other gimmicks with the TV screens so their marketing will be another type of bs.

[PiCOSMOiP]

Most PS4 Pro enhanced games are 1440p anyway. Doesn’t surprise me the resolution is less than the One X.

[Master of Unlocking]

Usually when a game is too demanding visually to run at native 4K on the PS4 Pro, it's at least 1440p, yes, if not 1800p, so I find that 1260p on the Pro to be... questionable, and when I see that the publisher of the game is Bethesda, who seem to have a thing for Microsoft's systems over anything else, I can't quite shake off that hunch that something went on behind the curtains...

[PiCOSMOiP]

Probably resulting from the developers rushing. I’m sure they’ll patch it for higher resolution

[dparente74]

uncompromised 4k 60!!!

[Tko1111]

THats either a lazy dev or they Just don’t have the resources or budget

[Dannylew]

aiaiaiaiaiaiai

not true 4@k @ 60 ????

even with the powwwwwwwaa of the claaaaaudddd ????

even with SIX motherflops ?????

aiaiaiaiaii

[81BX]

So both consoles get a dope looking game? Seems like gamers win. This will some how turn into a pissing contest

[TheOttomatic91]

-_-

Both versions might have been 2160p (or at least the X) if Bethesda allowed the devs to use UE4 and not id tech 5, I predict similar results when they try to attempt to make Dishonored 2 in 4K.

[Mkai28]

To be honest, i don't think it will be as bad as some ppl claim.. 1800p checker boarded to 4K will still look close to 4K.. 1260p will look good as well, although PS4 pro version should've been higher.. It's below 1440p.

[ClanPsi1]

So, the first XBoners and PS4s were built to play games at 1080p, but couldn't.
Now the mid-cycle upgrades are being built to play games at 4k, but they can't.
Super.

[DrumBeat]

1800p is very respectable. Looks great with TLOU@60fps.

[LastCenturyRob]

Best Buy was releasing the X at 9pm on the 6th! Got my Scorpio and it is Sweeeet!

[bu3ouf91]

Xbox One X capable of4K Gaming ?

[Platformgamer]

And at 1080p on a normal Ps4.
I played and enjoyed it anyway, amazing game imho

[TwistedXenos]

who here has 4k tv?

[81BX]

me

[BlackPantherNation]

Wow... can't wait till my X touchdown

[ossyc]

LOL

'True 4k feel the power' -

Wot, no 4k and 30fps? Rubbish!

[Artemidorus]

It's like 2014 all over again but this time it's Playstation getting the lesser. Give it two years and Playstation will have a Pro Silm offering small upgrades.

[memots]

i seem to recall when Ps4 and Xbox one came out. 1080p didn't matter. Now resolution matter again

[ossyc]

You get what you pay for in this world and for £450.00......

...you get a lump of turd.

[Mister_G]

Good luck MS :)

I still think the money spent developing the X1X would have been better spent on developing new IP's or investing in 3rd party studios etc., but that just me.

I don't know anyone who is planning on buying one and only seen 1 TV advert in the UK so it will be interesting to see the sales figures (if MS split X1 from X1X that is).

[Mister_G]

Still waiting for the TRUE Next Generation of gaming.

Games look nicer and nicer but you still have the same old fetch quests, escort missions, etc. Waiting for something completely new/different.

[windblowsagain]

http://www.game-debate.com/...

Very poor optimised game.

[BenRC01]

No 4k as expected. Not paying £450 for another machine that can't do 4k either.

[cliveo32]

Im happy for the x owners i have a pro it will look a little sharper when your playing the game on the x but is anyone really going to notice as thay are playing it .Both look great and fps is locked is the main thing what do people expect when the x comes out a year later its going to be a little better in some areas if this is it not enough to worry about

[C-H-E-F]

Before checker-boarding wasn't cool, now it's cool cause xbox one x does it lmao.... yawn

[mark3214uk]

what happened to true 4k = native 4k, like we all said the x is not powerful enough to do native, your getting a chequerboard just like the pro, why spend more money

[jesjen11]

So cool! Cant wait!

[VICIPLAY]

Epic! Im gonna be all over The Evil Within 2 :o +1 for 1800P

[Cussing]

True 4k*

[PS3_Noob]

1080P is enough please improve gfx not the amount of pixels

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Lol 1260p. Closer to 1080p at that point.