Xbox One X Won’t Be Pushed To Its Limits Any Time Soon Like Gears of War Did With Xbox 360: Dev

There was a time when consoles used custom hardware, which games would eventually be optimized for, and push visuals far beyond people might have expected.

[woodtock]

The Xbox X fanboys are coming......

[EddieNX]

The x will never be pushed to its limits as it's held back by the original xbox one.

[Bigpappy]

And PS4 pro

[ApocalypseShadow]

Nope big pappy. By Xbox one. They can make the game look better. But in order to have game compatibility across all games, Xbox one s and Xbox one x have to play **exactly** the same online.

Xbox one x has more power than the base but developers can't change the animation, physics, objects onscreen, etc unless it's a single player experience. But most developers aren't going to waste their time and money doing that. All you will get is a bump in graphics detail and resolution.

PS4 has nothing to do with it. It's more like PS4 Pro has to play the same as the base PS4 online.

[Ricegum]

Bigpappy

"And PS4 pro"

Yep, Xbox One is certainly held back by Sony's wide variety of exclusives so I guess you have a point for once.

[Gunstar75]

Not when it comes to specific enhancements

[Geoff900]

They scale games down, you know like on PC?

[DarXyde]

Bigpappy,

Pretty sure that worked the other way around with multiplatform titles (and still does until this thing releases).

Ultimately, the original Xbox One will hold it back. Development is very similar between the two and they share 100% of their library. PlayStation has its own games, so don't worry about them.

So if you have ANY complaints about what's holding the most powerful console back, you should probably blame the weakest.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Games scale.

[andrewsquall]

@Bigpappy HAHA, how can PS4 Pro hold back Crackdown 3 on XboneX when it is solely the Xbone doing that? And apply the exact same thing to just about every Xbone/Win 10 exclusive, with PS4 Pro being NOTHING to do with it.

[zerocarnage]

You obviously have no clue if you think that..

[headblackman]

@ woodtock

you said that as if this wasn't an xbox article that wasn't talking about xbox for the xbox fans. so what are you doing here playslave? im sure there's plenty of playslave news for you to go and overdose to. go see about that and avoid anything with xbox in it so you don't have to deal with xbox fans. you'd save yourself a lot of time and headache.

[Dlaw76]

Those guys won't listen don't they make you want to slap em sometimes

[bluefox755]

They really are out in full force lately, lol. They are fun to mess with though.

[Gunstar75]

This fanboy has a switch as well.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Yup. Here we go. If it’s not being pushed now, imagine how badass it will be when it is. Cuz it’s already fantastic. Everybody celebrate (except salty PS4 fanboys)

[LastCenturyRob]

and what exactly are you woodtock?

[zerocarnage]

Watch out pure fanboy above, what a prune...

[PhoenixUp]

Why would it be? Developers were primarily making 360 games with that hardware in mind, so it was easy to push it to the limit.

Every XO game has to run on the base model. No dev is going to specifically make a game for the iterative XO X like they did with 360.

[PhoenixUp]

“The org. xbox will not hold back the xbox one”

Of course a 2001 console won’t hold back a 2013 console.

Games can be made on scalable hardware. But a game that scales won’t look as ambitious as a game that is built primarily for the high end hardware. Compare the games that were released on both 7th and 8th gen consoles to the games that only released on 8th gen consoles.

[zerocarnage]

A game can be built for the X and original Xbox one and still take advantage of all its power, these devs ain't stupid they will know how to do it. Plus one way would be to increase map sizes, player limits, open buildings up that would normally be closed in previous machines. I mean I'm no coder or dev but they will have or find there ways to utilize all that power despite a console being linked to another, ms have done an excellent job at cracking stuff this gen and they aren't the only ones who can do it, no more than Sony are the only ones that have exclusives anyway

[darthv72]

Keep in mind that since games are created mostly on PC's, then making a game that caters for the X can be as easy as setting some sliders and check boxes like a PC. Then by unchecking certain boxes you get the base model equivalent.

In PC development, they tend to aim high and then work back to more moderate levels. When it was console only, they would develop to what they thought the hardware could do and adjust from there. X is going to improve development for not only the xbo and PC but also the PS4. They now have the tiers for gaming. Ultra (PC), High (X), Medium/High (Pro) and Medium (PS4) and Medium/Low (xbo) and the engines can scale and adapt to any of these platforms.

[mcstorm]

I was just about to post the same as your self this is what people are not getting and it's another step closer to xbox/PC being on the same page.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Okay interesting

[NoPeace_Walker]

Xi, what is the purpose of your 1-2 words comments? It makes no sense.

[ThinkThink]

I think you get points for every comment. He likes points.

[ludicrous]

Well, most comments on n4g don't make sense anyways so I rather keep it short like xi. Would u prefer an essay full of nonsense instead?

[81BX]

He's probably a bot

[DeadSilence]

Gears of War? Gears of War 3 looked way better than Gears of War 1, 360 had a lot room left in 2006 even after the original Gears.

[Unspoken]

Sorry but thus dev seems slightly behind, the game engine was the true showcase which may be what he is after. Once UE4 gets implement Ed, Unity matures, and CryEngine expands it's dev library, then you will see what X1X truly brings.

[PrinceOfAnger]

Gears of war didn't push x360 to it's limits crysis 3 did on both x360 and ps3

Eurogamer
"Have the current-gen consoles finally reached their limits?"
Crytek's Crysis 3 is one of the most technically accomplished games of this generation, a visually spectacular piece of software that pushes graphical boundaries on all platforms. And with all its graphical settings pushed to the max, Crysis 3 on PC effectively offers a "next-gen now"

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I personally consider Crysis 3 to the best looking 7th gen console game. In noway did Gear of War 1 max out the 360, its own sequels had more advanced lighting and shaders.

[81BX]

I thought gtav looked good too

[gamer7804]

how is this news? no new hardware is pushed to its limits at launch, they always find ways to do things slightly differently as time goes on.

[SkippyPaccino]

If the ps4 pro reveal of TLOU part 2 is any indication... We'll definitely see more of what these new machines are capable of (even if it's just visuel)

[corroios]

It will never be pushed to the max because the x is an upgrade and the 360 isnt.

[Good-Smurf]

Got me thinking if PS5 used a combination of X86 and Cell?
The PS3 innards are probably dirt cheap by now so they can add it and overclock it.
Maybe a terrible idea...

[maybelovehate]

Such a BS article at least in regards to graphics. This has been happening on PC for ages. The required hardware in PC games are soo much lower than the hardware requirements for Ultra. In fact on PC it is even more drastic with much more variations than it is with X1 and X1X

[PGRfox]

The problem is that games have to be developing on regular Xbox first. Since they can't make an X exclusive game, the full potential may never be fully realized.

[Gh05t]

Yeah no one ever developed games on better hardware and then scales them down. ...said no PC developers ever.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Nothing is going to stop the XB1X excitement train!
Not articles like this or the massive amount of Haters here!

[datriax]

Um.... ya, I doubt it. This isn't some magical system that breaks laws of physics. Given its specs, I highly doubt this thing will ever "push visuals far beyond people might have expected. "

[inxine]

yea, i figured.

[DrumBeat]

It stands to reason that PS4 Pro also won't be pushed, seeing as it's tethered to its little bro, the PS4.

[Elda]

Exactly,there are no PS4 Pro exclusive games to push the hardware.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Gears of War 1 in no way maxed out the 360, the game was big step up from Perfect Dark Zero and Call of Duty 2 though. Gears of War 3, Halo 4 and especially Crisis 3 looked much better than Gears 1. I expect games to look better year after year on PS4/XB1. However, I don't think we will see a Perfect Dark Zero to Halo 4 or Resistance:Fall of a Man to Last of Us disparity in graphics from early gen to late gen. .

[Elda]

There won't be any XBOX exclusives to push it's limits only XBO games.

[leeeroythe3rd]

Only fan boys on n4g.com are Sony... Everyone knows that

[mkis007]

As long as games have to be on Xbox s then it will never hit its max. Just not possible when making sure a concept works on the lower hardware. I'm hoping my purchase is rewarded with some surprises though. I decided I like consoles even though I have a gaming pc. I have to have the best of every world. So my quadfecta will be complete.

[Trekster_Gamer]

I disagree they will look great on the Xbox One S and it will look Supreme on the Xbox One X comparatively speaking.

[mkis007]

But its always going to be limited. A game concept has to be able to run on the lowest console. They can pretty up a game, but they can't make it take 100% advantage of every little thing in the X. At the end of the day its not programmed for X, its programmed for S first then scaled up.

[Trekster_Gamer]

It may not yet be pushed to its limits but if you look already with what developers have achieved for the most part is pretty amazing.
I can't wait to see when they completely take advantage of what this hardware has to offer on future titles!

[OpenGL]

Is that why it doesn't hold a stable 60fps in Gears 4's 1080p mode?

[tontontam0]

Can't wait to see how xbox one x will be defended by xbox fanboys
when ps5 comes out.

[vinniects]

Can’t wait for the ps5 to come out so the Sony fanboys can feel better about themselves

[tontontam0]

Yup can't wait

can't bear this feeling of having an inferior console, I had no idea xbox fans have been feeling like this for these past 4 years.

[daxon55]

well first party studios do tend to push the hardware to their limits i guess so maybe tht can be. but i think atleast forza will look great on it since forza 7 plays at 4k 60 n it looks great