Forza 7 is a fantastic driving title that can’t stop tripping over itself, and its majestic driving experience is overshadowed by a lack of new ideas and suspicious economic decisions.
The worst Forza yet.
Yet still higher rated than any Gran Turismo game to release since the PS2. Wow!
Says a lot about your allegiances when this is what you have to revert to. Why not just judge the game on its own merits (or, in this case, faults)? This isn't about Gran Turismo, it's about Forza 7.
And yet has never sold more than any gran turismo game released since - ever? Lol. Nice troll attempt tho.
Gran Turismo 3 & 4 rank better and sold better than any Forza out there combined. lol
This is what I was saying before. It's not an evolution of the series, it's a step down. That is disappointing for a series that used to be a top-seller, not having less and less sales each year a new game comes out.
As I see it, it's exceptionally difficult to make a racing game and not have drawn concerns so many entries in. We really do see a lot of Forza --in some capacity, annually. Forza hurts itself with its business practices (which the industry seems to unanimously disapprove of) and franchise fatigue. It doesn't sound like it's a bad game though. It sounds like it plays pretty well. I think it's going through the same things that people say about every big racing franchise: it's more of the same with questionable additions (or omissions). People are surprised by Gran Turismo Sport lacking dynamic weather or realistic damage or even the limited roster. Likewise, Forza omits Toyota (which, in my opinion, is a pretty big miss) and the AI seems pretty bad. I think Sport has a chance to be a knockout but we'll see. In the end, these games have their loyal following. Can't please everyone. Hopefully they learn from the feedback. It goes to show that, because the flaws are associated with in-game mechanics and content, native 4K at 60fps is not going to solve all problems.
Removing features or limiting previous ones in future games isn't something I'm okay with. A sequel should evolve, make me want to stay with the newest entry and not go back. Or this game's case as well, the microtransactions/loot crates. They should stop the bi-annual releases and focus on the core of the game more than the visual efforts. Sport as well, if that turns out to be all show and no go, I'm going to be disappointed severally.
I do agree that the limitations now implemented are a step backwards. And I definitely agree that they shouldn't be pumping these games out so often. People criticize Gran Turismo for taking so long, but those games generally come with a staggering amount of content. Sport is an exception and it's had a much shorter release window following GT6. Definitely though, mate. Jury is still out on Sport. General reception so far seems good, but the content factor seems to be a continuous issue. If I'm being entirely honest, I expect the aggregate score to be between 7.8 and 8.5 (I'm specifically expecting 8.3) on a 10-point scale.
Very interesting review.
hopefully turn 10 are allowed to work on something new even if it's another racing game but new IP forza series this year is being used to show the power of xbox x i think it's better now to rest forza IP for 3-5 years. FH3 is as close to a perfect racing game from what i have heard as possible so no need for more anytime soon
Ouch. Guess all the paid for reviews have run out.
I'm guessing this is what happens when all the early paid reviewers are done, and the honest ones start coming out lol
A review copy was sent to me and I still gave it my honest score of an 8.5/10 on PC. I didn't really pay attention to the lootbox integration, but rather just focused on the core game: the racing mechanics, cars, and presentation. Looking at it from that perspective, I was pleased which is why I gave it that score. My point is, reviewers, critique the game on an individual basis. These lower scores having nothing to do with a lack of honesty beforehand. If anything, it's rather interesting that these late reviews would make a fuss when Turn 10 has already stated it would be backtracking its decision and return to the old VIP system. But, oh well.
I tried to ignore a component of the game so I can give it a favourable score. Bravo, you just proved his point.
@moegooner88 it's an optional component that doesn't distract you from racing. It's like saying "I don't like that menu, so I give the game a bad score". The game is about cars and racing and both are really fun parts. It's not a pay2win component, those mods are purely optional (even Forza 6 had mods and lootboxes, btw)
@moegooner88: I didn't ignore it, I said I didn't pay attention to it, there's a difference. For instance, the game has stuttering/framerate issues on PC; it's not a constant problem, but it's still an issue that I thought was worth docking points for because it had a genuinely negative effect on my gameplay experience. The lootboxes were optional and avoidable. While I'm not a fan of them, they didn't get in the way as much as the stuttering issues for me to dock points. THAT was MY point. The Destructoid reviewer gave his opinion on the game from his personal perspective, and I gave my opinion from my own perspective. That's how reviews work.
I think that's a bit cynical. Entirely possible that the high review scores are genuine.
Glad to hear this before a purchase. I didn’t really believe the whole “buy it even if you don’t like racing games” crowd
Hmmm well if it was just real money then dam id be piss3d butifnu can buy with ingame stuff then thats no biggy u get a ton of in game money playing l.
It's exactly the same game as forza 6
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