Sometimes it pays to give games a second chance.
I still say XIII-2 was one of the greatest games of last gen. Like absolute gold.
FFXIII-2 was indeed an awesome game
I really enjoyed FF13 personally. A lot of people I knew felt the same way. Yes, FF13 is a heavily linear game, but I dont know when people started feeling like that was an issue for a jrpg. Nowadays we have all of these open world experiences and most of them dont really hold up. You can point to a few stellar examples like the Witcher 3. But there are so many open world games that are just go here and do X, over and over again. X is literally the same thing you have done before with no diversity in it whatsoever. Personally, I prefer a directed experience that is well done. FF13 had some annoying characters as well, but even so I didnt hate most of the characters. I couldnt stand Snow and Vanille was annoying, but short of that I was willing to let it go. As far as Hope went, he was 13 and just experienced some really messed up stuff early on, so yeah he gets to be a bit whiny. It fits his character, but by the end of the game his character progressed in one of the best ways. Lightning may have been a bit on the cold hearted side, but it made sense for her character and at least she was willing to fight fate. Overall, I still enjoyed FF13 a lot and the combat actually did have a lot of depth. But you know, people made snap decision based on the game initial story and that was a shame.
@cleft, While I didn't have an issue with the characters (over dramatization is at the core of many jprgs) I do agree heartily with the rest of your remarks. Particularly on the directed bit. It makes the story more cohesive. Also I found the combat to have more depth than some of the initial naysayers would have you believe. Paradigm choice and path pursuits to development to support those choices was particularly well handled.
It was on steam sale for like a fiver and I passed it after much deliberation, gutted now as I hear quite a lot of good things about it.
Still well worth the current price of $15.99
I hated 13 2, preferred 13 more....well I shouldn't say hated. It was ok.
I agree.I think 13-2 was just stripped,only 2 players,didn't agree with the monster capturing to fight beside you,no summons & no Lightning.I thought it was boring & the 3rd Lightnings Returns was just a complete mess.The original is the best & should have left it without any sequels.
I liked 13 lots more too ... 13-2 was just a confusing mess to me.
The only bad thing about XIII-2 is that you have to play it's prologue that is XIII to get the full picture. Not only that, but that cliffhanger ending was terrible, as I have no desire to ever play XIII-3 (seems the weakest, although some people say the battle system is pretty fun). :T Also, IMO, Serah is better than Lightning solely because she is more relatable and feels more like a human being.
I didn't like 13-2 much. I personally loved 13 and I always did. I was one of the people defending it from the get go. Glad to see people like it and it's not a bunch of people following a hate train anymore lol
XIII-2's combat is arguably the best in the whole Ff franchise.
At least every month I keep seeing these types of articles about FF-XIII.FF-XIII is one of my top tier FF games & I've been playing FF games since 93.Good to see some people playing the entire game & enjoying it.I still own my copy & my PS3,when I finally get into a drought of games & I don't know when that'll be I will boot it up again.
I’ve always stood by FF13 being a great game that just had a rough start. 13-2 has superior gameplay but a bad story. I also LOVED Fang! So much more of a likeable protagonist then Lightning.
.... ffs: FF13-2 *IS NOT* FF13! If FF13 required two sequels, two separate games, in order to be "good" then FF13 itself was. Not. Good. You want to go to the old standby of "That's just your opinion man," fine. Lets just forget that Square has gotten into the habit of putting out a bad game, rely on franchise popularity and lore for sales, then milk the fan base through DLC and sequels under claim of "fixing' things.
They never said 132 was the same game. It's a series though. They mentioned that the second FFXIII was better gameplay wise but not story
I said it before and I'll say it again, you may dislike the game, it's understandable, but FF XIII has the best turn-based battle system of the series.
Absolutely! The Paradigm Shift was fast frantic & furious!
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES I've been saying this for years, it's an evolution of the system that requires alot more thought and looks alot better to watch. It's a better system. Most people who complained never played or keeps hitting autobattle like that's fun. Can't get you through the harder battles later.
Agreed! FF XIII was the first FF where I died a lot.If you don't know what you're doing it's "Game Over"
I completely agree with you.
No way. It has the worst turn-based battle of the series. I thought the story was OK and music great, but it was ruined by awful battles. The old ATB system was far better.
Your opinion but everything about FFXIII was great except for the messy lure of a story though the story of each character was quite interesting.The OST was amazing!!
While main story plot was a mess (all i remember from it - it had Coccoon, l'Cie, fal'Cie, crystals and a black guy with chocobo nest in this head (or hair)), gameplay was good enough. Side missions weren't that enjoyable. And that "Treasure Hunter" trophy was the worst thing about the game for me, i spent so many hours trying to find out what i was missing and then grinding to get it.
I never really minded XIII the first time I played it. Wasn't the best FF game but I enjoyed it.
I will never give this pos a second chance.
Every XIII game is absolute trash.
My favorite game of all time
You go through corridors and then just mash a single button in every battle. The gameplay was awful - among the worst I've ever experienced. The OST was good, however, but it would be better to just think of it as a movie with a subpar plot and outstanding music.
So a games bad because you choose to play some of the game only hitting auto battle? The game asks you to choose if you want that as preference. You choose to make the experience that way. Others who cared to try enjoy the game never used that option
If they didn't want people to use it, they shouldn't have put it in. Even still, battles were tediously slow, and overall, the game was boring as hell due to the constant fear of entering another battle (It'd be more interesting to just watch an advertisement). I recently played FF4 and 6 for the first time. In terms of gameplay, these blow FF13 out of the water. Final Fantasy 13 is by far the worst game in the FF series, and anyone who likes it is probably just feeling nostalgic.
And once FF16 drops we'll see a similar article for FF15, same thing will happen with 17,18,19 and so on. The FF fanbase fucking sucks.
I actually liked Final Fantasy XIII. I've played most of the main entries and I feel XIII got too much undue hate. I actually beat the game and I'm not one of those people who keeps playing a game even if it sucks. The hate it got reminded me of the hate Batman Arkham Origins received. Both were solid games. There was just seemingly a hate bandwagon that everybody wanted to jump on for no apparent reason.
My god I know, it’s not the best FF at all, but man people were slamming this game like it was Ride To Hell or Big Mutha Truckers or something. It was fine.
13-2 was one great game. the music alone was mint!!
I could forgive every other thing with FF13 but I felt the story was not well told and it made it hard for me to get into the game. They should have had much more backstory and interactions between the characters and people besides the other main characters all talking about how they are screwed. I also could not find a single character I really liked in the cast. Still, I don't hate XIII but it is right there with XII on my list of games that could have been amazing had they done the story and characters well. I do not care at all if a game is linear I will take a great linear over an open world any day.
So did I. It didn't improve.
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