Assassin's Creed Origins Has Loot Boxes

PSLS: "Assassin’s Creed Origins will join the trend of AAA single-player games with loot boxes. Called a Heka chest, these magical boxes contain “one random weapon or shield” that will appear when the box is opened “automatically on purchase.” In the preview builds, players can only purchase these chests with in-game currency."

[Bigpappy]

Haha! Loot boxes. I'll have to see, when I play, if I care.

[Kingthrash360]

Cancer to gaming.
And you laugh.
You are not a gamer.
Just a Internet toxic supporter.

[Bigpappy]

Thanks for the classification. Now I know what I am.

[Jinger]

I don't get why people get up in arms about loot boxes in single player games. They are 100% optional and don't effect other players in the slightest. If little junior son of a bitch wants to use mommies credit card to get a scimitar before me... who. The. F. Cares

[Bruneblomst]

But it do effect other players you know that right? i dont want to explain too you why, but you should look in to it yourself before defending greedy companies selling loot boxes(gambling) in full priced games. Peace:)

[zivtheawesome]

It's a misconception. You can only buy it with in game currency like horizon boxes basically.

[P_Bomb]

Those were preview builds though. I could see them expanding it to real bucks for the retail release. Ubi is no stranger to microtransactions.

That said, I never use most of the weapons in Assassins Creed anyways. Have my mains. Plus baddies drop weapons. No shortage.

[edeprez]

I do wish you could keep dropped weapons this time. In the past you would drop them when you climb or switch weapons. The guy i got it from is dead, I doubt he will object.

[zivtheawesome]

Yea i think i was wrong with my assumption but only realized it after my comment.

[Angerfist]

The Problem is this always ends up with real money. Thats why i oppose it. You should be able to get everything with gameplay - especially in a single player game.

And in Multiplayer People are able to buy basically game deciding killstreaks etc

[Mr Pumblechook]

If you only can use in-game currency is it wrong to call them loot boxes?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

No....its a box with loot in it. How you acquire it matters little and how you define it , it's still a loot box mechanic. That said if it's not offering up a way to buy it with real money as some are indicating then there should be absolutely no anger and outrage around it

[nitus10]

Like it or not the so-called loot boxes are a form of gambling.

If you look at microtransactions you paid with in-game currency or you purchased that currency with real money (eg. Shark Cards, Zen ... etc) but you got the item you wanted. With loot boxes that is no longer true since there is no guarantee that you will get the item(s) you want without purchasing many loot boxes unless you are very lucky.

You will always have people that are immune to any form of gambling incentives through to those who are basically gambling addicts (approx 2.9% of the adult population - see Google). What is insidious with this form of gambling in games is the fact that children are prone to get addicted as well.

A quick search will pull up articles like this http://kidshealth.org/en/te... although there are plenty of others.

BTW. I am well aware that the Assassin's Creed games are rated as "Adult" but you would have to be living under a rock if you honestly think that children don't get to play them as well.

[DeviateFish]

I don't recall Horizon Zero Dawn getting any flak for their "loot boxes".

[PhoenixUp]

Oh good lord

[lukferr]

Bloody hell. Sick of this crap. I don't care if it's for 'in-game currency' at this point in time. You just know that deep down they want to bleed you dry. They will keep pushing and pushing and pushing the limits. I'm not buying this game on release. I'll wait for price cuts. There's no point, with other amazing games to play.

[edeprez]

sounds like a lot of upcoming games will have these. I don't really mind as long as you can earn them easily like HZD.

[bigmalky]

Will you mind when the system is ignored so much, that you'll one day have to pay to reload a gun, or to upgrade your character's perk chart?

Mark my words, we keep ignoring this stuff, this is where we're headed. EA have already passed these ideas around.

So little regard for your source of entertainment, you'd just stand back and watch as it goes down the toilet to a bunch of selfish people who can just throw money away.

[ShadowWolf712]

Horizon's "Loot Boxes" can literally be found in the wild tho, Heck I think the only boxes I ever saw the ability to buy were the sample boxes from the merchants.

[Scar-]

I would skip it altogether we need to send a stronger message or this is going to get worse 2k is a perfect example. They introduced their fanbase to MT's early so they are use to there presents then they made them more and more necessary each year the latest 2k feels like a freetoplay title to me because its so grind heavy they try to force you spend money just to play the game everything cost money in that game.

[spartan112g]

I'm skipping 2K because of it because they are intrusive. This doesn't look intrusive at all.

[Relientk77]

Loot boxes were in Ancient Egypt?

Seems legit

[CP_Company]

and? if you want to buy them, you pay in-game money called drachmas.

people acting here like as$holes. it is not MT.

[WePlayDirty]

The lootbox concept in itself takes away from the game. there should be a way to naturally unlock items through progression instead of making it a gambling-esque system out 'in game currency' that's now found in essentially every BIG AAA game...

[CP_Company]

what does it takes away? that you have to explore more? kill more enemies, uncover new territories and do more missions? that you could save so many money. also in that time you will get maybe 50 weapons or more, so don't act like is something critical and ground braking and that you can't get weapons anywhere else.

it's clearly visible that game world is not build around it, like in Shadow of Loot Boxes or Forza Microtransaction 7.

[Gh05t]

You mean like loot drops? There has never been a game where you hope RNGesus blesses you with a nice loot drop from a chest found in a game.

So this is just giving you something to spend your in game currency on. Until it is shown to be anything different I will hold my outrage.

[shuvam09]

If you seriously believe that they made a lootcrate mechanic (historically so out of place in ancient Egypt) just to have you buy them with in-game currency, you need to immediately visit a psychiatrist...

[StormLegend]

The future of games are in trouble if this keeps happening.

[edeprez]

What's so bad about this? DLC and MT's are garbage, aside from the big story expansions which i really like. These are more akin to the boxes you would get in Horizon, unless they end up changing the way you get them.

[WePlayDirty]

DLC's have been around for ages and ultimately aren't that bad. What's bad is making people buy DLC's who purchased the original game Day 1, while the people just picking up the 'Ultimate edition' get the original game and all DLC's for the same price as just the original game...

[nitus10]

I don't mind DLC if they are done right such as The Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Horizon Zero Dawn etc since they can add many additional hours to a game. Where it becomes problematic is microtransactions which monetize addition items such as clothing, skins, etc which IMHO should have been it the game (especially a AAA one) in the first place. At least with microtransactions, they are optional and not "pay to win" (ie. better weapons, protection, buffs, .. etc).

I can understand and applaud random drops in gameplay (ie, treasure chests, dead enemy, stealing etc) since that does make the game interesting and replayable. but when you get something like a loot-box which you could liken to a treasure chest you basically have a form of gambling especially if you have to purchase it.

[ocelot07]

If it turns out these loot boxes can be bought with real money. Then ill be buying this game second hand.

[spartan112g]

You know you could just not buy the boxes, right? Nobody is forcing you to buy them.

[ocelot07]

True nobody is forcing me to buy gambling boxes. But I don't agree with gambling boxes in $60 games. Fair enough if devs wants to sell DLC and season passes. But these gambling boxes and micro transactions in $60 games are a joke. So any $60 game that has gambling boxes in that can be bought with real money. I will buy second hand.

If publishers want to be greedy then am going to be stingy.

[Cobra951]

I won't be buying it, period. I didn't make a New Year's resolution, or anything; but thinking back, I haven't bought a single "AAA" game this year. I've gotten some indies, and played my "AAA" backlog, much of it from late last year when I bought several on sales like Black Friday's. I'm not saying I won't ever buy another big game from a greedy corp, but if the unacceptable leeching trends such as loot boxes continue, I'll be buying a heck of a lot fewer than in the past.

[SinisterKieran]

nothing new

[Mr-Dude]

And pass

[bluefox755]

Welp, another game to pass on. Fortunately, I wasn't really that excited about it to start with.

[BeRealisticNow]

I’m pretty sure every AC game since black flag had microtransactions. Not like this is shocking news.

[ShadowWolf712]

Even regular Micros can be preferable to the Loot Box mechanic tbh. It's downright predatory at times.

[Destiny1080]

Any game which has this type of transaction should have to be rated 18+

[nitus10]

While I do agree with you, making a game Adult such as 18+ is not going to solve the problem. Most children will get to play games like this especially if their parents don't supervise and children are very susceptible to forms of gambling.

Gambling is a problem and fortunately, most adults are fairly resistant although some are not (about 2.9% - Google "gambling addicts"). A quick Google search using the following "children and gambling" will net over 61.4 million hits. Now swap "children" for "adults" and you will get 21 million hits.

Anyone who thinks that publishers like Ubisoft, Gameloft, Square Enix Holdings, Akella, ak tronic Software & Services GmbH are not aware of issues like I have mentioned above are very much deluded.

[Cobra951]

That's an issue with enforcement, not classification. They should still be rated as adult games. Some kids may find a way around it. Many will not, because their parents keep proper watch over them and their activities.

[Cobra951]

It's effectively gambling, so yes, I agree. Only adults should be able to gamble in games with real money.

[mindtwang]

Doubt I'll be buying any. I'll just use regular shops instead.

[Cobra951]

I would too, if I bought the game, something looking very unlikely at this point. But if gambling is the only way to shoot for the best gear in the game, then it's no longer really a side activity with no gameplay consequences. It remains to be seen what exactly these boxes will contain, and how those contents can affect the game. Until that is clearly established, there is no way I'll part with any cash to play this game.

[staticall]

So that's why they went with whole RPG-like weapons and gear, i was afraid they'll go that route. I guess they didn't learn from their failed Helix credits. Another "wait-till-GOTY-edition&q uot; game for me.
WHY recently companies ruin such great looking games with microtransactions?!

[CP_Company]

where do you see here microtransactions?

[staticall]

Why else you think they added loot boxes into the game? It's not for historical accuracy, that's for sure. And Ubisoft already tried adding microtransactions into Assassin's Creed with their Helix credits. Why else someone will add loot boxes into the game if not for option to buy them with real money?

I bet they'll even use the usual "It's for the players who want to save time and get the stuff faster" excuse.

[nitus10]

I am not going to disagree but microtransactions are not the problem here, loot-crates or whatever you want to call them are a form of gambling.

If people wish to purchase in-game "fluff" commonly called microtransactions I don't have any issue, after all, it is the players choice and money. Where I do have an issue is when you are basically forced to grind to get better items and this then becomes "pay to win". It is even more insidious when "pay to win" becomes "pay to finish game".

[Valenka]

I don't see a problem with this if it uses in-game currency. If they are introducing microtransactions, well, here we go again.

[AnubisG]

Man, is this the new norm instead of season passes?? Or this is on top of season passes? In any case, I will get this since I like AC games and I LOVE ancient Egypt. Just won't spend a penny on these loot boxes.

[CP_Company]

and what you gonna do with your in-game earned money? keep in the pocket? you will not upgrade, you will not craft, you will not buy anything?

[AnubisG]

No, I will. It's just that loot boxes are in every game and they mostly are microteansations. Hopefully these won't be microtransactions but it's in every game now. It's really borring.

[LordofYogurt]

That’s it...I’m sick of this shit. Forza, Shadow of War, Destiny and now this?! Fuck this shit man.

[CP_Company]

now this? what this? do you not like that you can buy staff with in-game money? do you like microtransactions?

[LordofYogurt]

Come on man. Don’t be ignorant...they’ll put in an option for real world currency eventually.

[WePlayDirty]

@CP

you apparently like micro transactions.

[CP_Company]

13 minuses because i was right. nice.

[Bigpappy]

I think you may be upset by this.

[LordofYogurt]

A bit.

[spartan112g]

You do know that they aren't intrusive at all in Shadow of War or Destiny 2, right? I think you're not looking at how they are implemented and purely whining about their existence. It should be on a case by case basis.

[LordofYogurt]

No. No microtansactions. Ever. Period.

[gamingisnotacrime]

Looool

[ErogeMaster]

Well we all know what overwatch did.

[wenaldy]

They added lootboxes to dying game like The Division. It's fucking Ubisoft people.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

damn trend! But if morons keep buying them...

[senorfartcushion]

Getting it used

[nitus10]

Normally I ignore games that allude to gambling and loot-cases" like it or not are gambling, it is just that the Government hasn't cracked down yet.

[BenjaMan64]

Here come the meltdowns!

[WithoutTheJamIn]

YAWN, ZzZzZz

[Angainor7]

So let me get this straight, personally i don't give a F*#K about lootboxes, i hate them and i will never use this shit. So, with that in mind, am i supposed to skip Assassin's Creed: Origins just because it contains an optional feature that i will never use??? Grow up...

[ocelot07]

No one said to skip it. In fact Assassin's Creed Origins is a game am very much looking for. But I don't agree with gambling boxing being in a $60 game. If Ubisoft want to be greedy then to counter it am going to be stingy and buy the game at a discounted price second hand.

[Angainor7]

Fair enough.

[_LarZen_]

Game is ordered as I think it looks hot as hell. But Ubisoft can forget getting more money on crap like that from me. The problem is that they earn so much on doing it that they and others just continue to add it to their games....

[GamingCentaur]

Shocking.

[glenn1979]

Thats the new trend?

[SCW1982]

Well I'm out, anyone thinking this will just stay as an in game currency is delusional or has been living under a rock for the last couple years. This crap is horrible for the industry, it feeds off those with addictive personalities, and it shows just how greedy and lacking in integrity this industry has become. Really starting to loath my favorite hobby lately.

[TejasTV]

Ah man and I was thinking about getting an Assassins game for the first time since that ship wreck. I didn't read the article but I'm assuming these can be purchased with real money as well.

[KryptonKronos]

Oh come on!! What a piss take. Surely it costs developers to put this crap in game and if no one's willing to buy it then surely they lose money.

Yeah right I wish that was the case but we all know people are far to gullible to fall into this disgraceful trend, those people are the same morons that have mummy and daddies credit card on stand by. This is a bloody joke.

[nitus10]

It would be pretty easy and very cost effective to put things like loot boxes into a game.

A quick Goole search (use "gambling addicts") will show you that approximately 2.9% of the adult (I am assuming USA here) are addicted to gambling. For more information try the following http://addiction.lovetoknow...

Even if a game with gambling is made "Adult only" children will still get to play it especially if they are not supervised by their parents.

Anyone who thinks that game publishers are not aware of this must be living under a rock.

[Wrex369]

If you cant make enough profit on your games to charge base 60$ for it then raise the prices for the game, but dont cut it up and cheapen your games stop being pussies and get your publishers out of your art.

[81BX]

Rofl... I'm mad! This game has unlockables hidden behind in game currency? Now just because someone has time to play the game more, they're going to have better gear? Screw this game. Why can't they just keep stuff locked until a certain amount of xp.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Why do you care if someone has more time to play the game and get better gear it's a single player game and you'll literally never see these so-called people with better gear

[81BX]

Thanks for picking up what I was putting down. Who cares??? It's not purchased with real money and it's single player. It's ok to unlock items at level 22 with xp but it's not through in game currency?

[Stanjara]

2017 in game currency, 2018 real money. They are just preparing the new paying model and testing people reaction to this. Actually they are preparing developers to better implement this in their next games from the ground up. You can't have rain on tracks until you get it in a loot box...by pure luck? What's next...you can't clime walls until you learn it in a loot box...5 $ Wow...I know Kung Fu!

[umbro]

It's going beyond the realms of acceptible now. It's immoral and greedy. I was looking forward to this game but out of principle I'm not touching it now.

This greedy business practice has to stop and it's only us that can do that by not buying their games. It means you might have to miss out out a game you might like but that's a hit I'm willing to take.

To make things better for the consumer in the long term I am happy to sacrifice some small comforts now. It's just a shame there are still so many people who arent willing to look past the end of their noses and stop giving in to these nasty corporate pigs.

Things might have to get worse before they get better but to not be able to see the bigger picture and to just bend over and take this up the ass is ruining it for the rest of us who still have decent honest principles.

[Psychotica]

Immoral??LOL..

[UKmilitia]

same with shadow of mordor,i loved the last one so i have it on way £25 !!!!
but i wont buy the loot boxes same as i wont in creed.
i support the game creators so i buy there game,i dont support content added like this,ive never bought DLC for any game as it seems planned .
they painted it like there supporting the game yet most of the content is made before the actual game even hits shelves!!!!
erm yeah we made 35 maps but only 11 in game,rest we sell you after

[Puty]

Fu** this gen. Indies look so much enticing right now. I heard Hellblade is pretty damn good with no dlc/microtransaction bs, i guess I'll try it out to support thse guys.
Something will die inside of me if we'll learn about TLOU2(The only one game left this gen That I'm waiting for) having lootboxes.

[esemce]

Cool that's another "AAA" game that I don't have to buy at launch for full price.

[Sokol]

Sad.. I had the game on purchase list however, just like Shadow of Mordor, im skipping on Assassin's Creed as well. Maybe used for 20$ if I even care at that point..im not supporting this reduicilous practice.

[Psychotica]

So? If it’s truly in game currency where is the problem?

[azizlksa]

I can understand loot boxes in multiplayer games, but loot boxes in single player games? Im skipping this, and shadow of war. There are plenty other developers who deserve my money such as the studios behind the evil within, wolfenstein 2, and GT sport.

[sander9702]

Does anybody remember when most games where about having fun instead of just collecting fake things for real money?

[umbro]

Yeah I remember. We lived through the good old days of gaming and the early unrestricted days of the internet. We were lucky and unlucky at the same time because we had it and now it's gone. For the generation that is too young to remember they are used to it and accept it. Ignorance really is bliss

[Cobra951]

I remember decades of it.

[jznrpg]

Bargain bin again. Ita another Creed game so not disappointed as much as Shadow of War but still lame. I have bought AC games in bargain bin since Brotherhood

[CP_Company]

i got so many minuses because i was not overreacting.
now that ubisoft official declare that there is not paid loot boxes, how i said it. i am smiling from kneejerk losers.