Bethesda marketing boss Pete Hines discusses publisher's marketing for upcoming anti-Nazi shooter.
Nazism will never be accepted as a political stance, they are a historical enemy to the society. F**k Nazi’s and all of their degenerate apologists.
1000% agreed. And that comes from someone firmly against the left and all of their "peaceful" protests. Honestly, I didn't even CONSIDER the game to be a political statement before a bunch of idiots started trying to make it into one; Wolfenstein has ALWAYS been about blasting Nazis in a fantasy setting. To say there's something abhorrent or wrong about that is like saying violent video games as a category are wrong in the first place. Which, if you're a very die-hard pacifist [does that even make sense?XD], I can understand, but for the majority of us, we're just fine with a little kick-ass in our gaming lives.
Yeah, the current political climate is all over the place. I am firmly for the left and support them whenever and wherever I can, but even with our political differences I’m sure most us can agree on Nazi scums being our common enemy.
Nazi scum bags and Communist scum bags. Two sh*tty peas of the same pod. F*ck both
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty has a similar tone about an alternate history where Nazi win the war. Its not a bad game, good story but typical fps game play.
It's a fantasy videogame. Don't take it seriously.
Not all Nazi's are bad. Some are dead.
The way I see it, Nazis no longer exist. I wouldn't bother giving these people the satisfaction of any acknowledgement. They're a band of eugenicists that, apparently, want to be on the losing side of history...again. They're losers. And inferior for their beliefs. But that aside, I am very worried about the education of people today because, to me, if people seriously believe that Wolfenstein is a political statement, that sounds like they think "Nazi" is a recent thing. Wolfenstein has a long and glorious history of wrecking Nazis.
Bunch of larpers, antifa and the white nationalists. I'm willing to bet that most of them know nothing about the history of nazism and communism in the world.
The worst part about antifa is that they co-opt peaceful rallies that oppose what most of the civilized world agrees to be deplorable. Their unnecessary violence gives all anti-fascist protests a bad name.
Blame the media and anyone trying to stir the pot for their agenda. So mad they use this term for EVERYTHING. Now its made its way to gaming. >:( I rather have Jack Thompson back
Hate begets hate. Political left, right, upside-down, right side up extremists always lead to the same result: us getting screwed. Perhaps wise philosophers were on to something when they said to "Find balance". Except Nazis. Everyone can hate Nazis.
Oh really! I suggest you read some history books. especially from 550 AD or CE on. How about reading up on Indian (India not the USA) history (use "india genocide") and the "Mediterranean wars 600 ad" over the last 1400 years. Basically, Hitler and Starlin were boy scouts compared to what happened over that time. I will let you work out who or what was responsible. There is a saying "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it".
So, you've been down voted, I see. Either by attention seeking, angry school kids, or, by Nazi apologists. I shall echo your original sentiment. F*ck you, to anyone who even pretends to back Nazi sentiment. These primitive scumbags will lose as always, as the rest of civilization continues to evolve.
Same can be said for communism. Communism killed over 100 million last century.
And 10's of millions have been killed in the name of Christianity. This sort of thing has been going on for thousands of years, it's just different groups involved at different times.
In the context of today, it's not about people apologizing for nazis. Everyone agrees they are bad. It's become more of a political proxy war where those on the left are trying to label many on the right as "nazis" and prop up their left wing equivalent communist groups, like Antifa (to be fair, this is mostly the media, which thrives on conflict, but many people buy into it as well). People on the right respond like: "Hey, we all agree nazis are bad, but just because I disagree with you politically doesn't make me a nazi. And what about antifa? They go around committing violence and destruction in the name of communism all the time, why don't aren't they just as bad?" In conclusion. radical extremists such as nazis and communists are two sides of the same radical, murderous coin. Both have long histories with death tolls in the millions. No one on either side of the political spectrum should be identifying with either of them, or using them to take shots at political opponents. They both belong with all of the other marginalized, radical groups, where we can all unite against them.
That's it exactly. I hate real Nazis too. Real Nazis would probably cook me in an oven. But when the label "Nazi" starts getting thrown around like confetti at crowds of conservative white people, we need to take a step back and ask "who are you calling a Nazi?" Is it me? Is it my neighbor with the picket fence and the blond kids? As long as the game deals with real Nazis--guys worshiping Adolf Hitler and seeking the destruction on non-Aryans--I have no problem with it. Any wider reach than that, and then I do.
Exactly. We should worry more about newer political ideologies that havent earned a bad rep yet. Nazism labelled as nazisn is never going to make a comeback
idk you got all these people dressed in all black causing riots and hurting people like they are.... Why are we even ranting about nazis and something back in the past....we didnt do this a couple of decades ago... stop politicizing my gaming hobby yall....
Bunch of nazi Trump supporters getting triggered over this game its hilarious
Trump supporters aren't Nazis though. But the Regressive Left seem to call them that for some strange reason and it makes absolutely no sense.
There are valid reason for people thinking Trump and his supporters are Nazi sympathizers. You don't have to be political to get it.
@captain: Fascism is far right on the political scale...
No Zig, it's far left. You're extremely militant leftist professors aren't a valid source when it comes to this subject.
Trump supporters definitely do have Nazis, they admit to it plainly and declare it themselves.
@CaptainObvious878 The reason people think that is based on observation and reason. I said, there are reasons that people think Trump and his supporters are Nazi sympathizers. You went ballistic. You said that those who think that way are hateful racist bigots (much like Nazis themselves lol) and then you mislabeled the group that, here in America, are self recognized as alt-righters. Do you even recognize a bigot? Our president has been endorsed by the KKK, he lead a race charge against former president Obama for years, he called for the execution of innocent black teens years ago (seeking to deny them due process even though it was clearly shown they were innocent). He has a history of denying black individuals housing. These are actions that lead people to think he has a problem processing the idea of individuals that are not his same race. His reaction to the Neo Nazi march a month ago let us know that you can still rage against Jews and other races and that kind of rhetoric can still be considered part of a 'decent' disposition. That is what people mean when they say he is sympathetic to Nazis. Simply stating what I have observed doesn't make me racist, dumb or stuck on media. Think for yourself. If you are smart enough to repeat those talking points you just recited to me, you are smart enough to come up with some original one. You are smart enough to engage me in conversation and you can't be to scared to hear an opposing viewpoint.
No, captain, it’s the far right; “Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...
Errr....which person do you think the Nazis supported during the American Presidential elections? The election of which president emboldened the closet racists and bro Nazis? Are people so thick that they can't recognise the obvious fact? Captainobvious "Nazi's were on the left btw." 😂😂😂 LMFAO!
Lukferr. Not all people that voted for Trump are Nazis, but pretty much all Nazis voted for Trump.