Bethesda's Pete Hines Praises Guerrilla's Horizon: Zero Dawn, Says It's "Unbelievable"

Pete Hines, VP of PR and Marketing at Bethesda, praised Guerrilla for straying out of Killzone to create the unbelievable Horizon: Zero Dawn.

That's what creative studios need to do, just like Bethesda isn't necessarily tied to Elder Scrolls.

[Cybermario]

is good to see developers praise the works of others, instead of acting like jealous people. Very deserved praise.

[k2d]

I bet he's a little envious over Horizon's qualities, though.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Bethesda needs to look at GG and CDPR and realize that u can have an amazing open world rpg WITH great visuals that runs properly. Bethesda has great creative ppl, but their games are embarrassing on the technical side. They use old antiquated engines and are arguably the worst running games around. There is no excuse anymore, when your games sell 10-20 million units each it's an embarrassment to have sub AAA visuals coupled with laughable performance. Seeing what GG has accomplished their first time out (with an open world rpg) makes it all the more embarrassing for Bethesda. I love Bethesda, but they need to scrap the dying archaic corpse of the Gamebryo engine and they need new technical ppl.

[TheKingKratos]

Horizon: Zero Dawn is so damn beautiful on the Pro
and on top of that it offer great Story/Gameplay/Soundtrack and great boss battles.

[-Foxtrot]

Hopefully they will improve things in the next Elder Scrolls game

No dumbing the game down...Oblivions system was a little broken but there was some ideas there, they just need to go back to the drawing board.

[Silly Mammo]

Probably envious of how few game crushing bugs Horizon had for a new IP. Bethesda could learn a thing or 2 from Guerilla.

[Armaggedon]

Horizon Zero Dawn is open world, and has solid visuals, however, it does not have the same level of depth that Bethesda's games do. Bethesda have skilled developers, and people underestimate just how dense their games are. It would be very hard for developers to do follow in Beths tracks. There is a reason there are virtually no copy cats to Bethesda's games.

[Bigpappy]

It is also a good PR move to not ruffle the feathers of a beloved fanbase. Obviously PS4 owners love them some Horizon. Too say anything with a hint of negativity regarding any of their exclusive, but especially this game or uncharted, would start a serious anti-Bethesda boycott by the PS fans.
Look no further than what is happening to Cliff B. He insulted that base on many occasions then try to play up to them and even went as far as insulting his own fanbase. Now no one even gave his game a chance.

[KaiPow]

I hope one of those two upcoming projects is that space title I've heard rumors of.

[TyrellCorp]

Starfield, E3 was a huge tease.

[Imp0ssibl3]

Yes it was. Thank Heavens they dropped Killzone!

[UCForce]

Without Killzone, there wouldn't be Horizon Zero Dawn. Think twice, buddy.

[BlackTar187]

You didn't say anything he didn't.

[ooquis]

Im still hoping for Killzone 2 remake.

[UltraNova]

Same here. I like Killzone games and i really wish they revist this universe sooner rather than later!

[Army_of_Darkness]

I'd be good with an HD remastered of 2 and 3 checker boarding running at 60fps! Damn can you imagine how great that will play and look?!

[Thomaticus]

Killzone Kollection (KZ - 1-3) with the vita Killzone ported to the PS4 would be nice.

[Felsager]

Imp0ssibl31

"Yes it was. Thank Heavens they dropped Killzone!"

Trasnlation

"I'm a dumb jackass who knows nothing about video games and comes here ejaculating nonsense like a 12 years old kid with this a troll alt account"

We get ya buddy....^^

[Quetzll]

Nice addition to the discussion. You have provided a great service. Just kidding, that was sarcasm.

You added nothing and instead insulted another user. Go get some crayons and write an apology.

And you of course missed OP's point, despite you replying to it. He meant that he's glad they didn't pump out another Killzone game. He meant that he is glad they made HZD and not another Killzone. He is glad for HZD. He didn't say anything negative about Killzone. Do you understand now, Felsagger?

Considering what he actually meant, I agree with Imp0ssible and im sure nearly everyone else does as well. Definitely glad we have HZD and not another Killzone. Killzone is cool though.

[morganfell]

They did not drop Killzone. It is simply not the game they made this time. Killzone is very much a part of their heritage. Its possible after having a taste of open world Guerrilla could make an open world Killzone Survival title. But whatever the case may be, GG is possibly not done with Killzone. Conceivably Guerrilla could become a two platoon company like Naught Dog.

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[Felsager]

Quetzll

"You added nothing and instead insulted another user. Go get some crayons and write an apology."

I did, I simply spotted a dumbass moron who tried to write nonsense without thinking. If any user wants to provide an insight, he or she should get informed on what such user is going to say. He simply ejaculated random nonsense without thinking.

"He meant that he's glad they didn't pump out another Killzone game. He meant that he is glad they made HZD and not another Killzone. He is glad for HZD. He didn't say anything negative about Killzone. Do you understand now, Felsager?"

Killzone gave Guerrilla a head start and good dividends in the PS3. They became noticed and thanks to their talents they managed to evolve into Horizon Zero Down. Killzone established their engine and their programming strategies for their next titles.

Killzone is a good franchise with a fair set of followers. I'm not asking for another killzone now. Eventually there will be a sequel adding the open world scheme due to the experience gained in Horizon Zero Down. Besides Killzone is not dropped out.

"Considering what he actually meant, I agree with Imp0ssible and im sure nearly everyone else does as well. Definitely glad we have HZD and not another Killzone. Killzone is cool though."

He went dumbass and forced my hand. Next time he needs to stop being a retard and think a bit more. Simple.

[Chris_Wray]

I loved it, can't praise it enough myself. A good example to use of a company that branched out to make an excellent game as well.
However, Bethesda haven't exactly proven themselves outside of TES or Fallout though. Hell, their only none TES or Fallout game in the past 15 years that they developed, not published, was a drag racing game, back in 2004. It's time they did branch out.

[UCForce]

Glad to see Horizon Zero Dawn have a big influence to whole industries.

[DrumBeat]

One of the best games I've played this year, certainly. Pete Hines knows the deal. I also loved Fallout 4.

[snipershot325]

Interesting Bethesda knows about the game, maybe they can learn from Guerilla and make a modern engine so there games don't look and run like crap and are buggy as hell, also even though the writing in Horizon say wasen't as top notch as the Witcher 3 or the Last of Us the game still shit all over Bethesda efforts.

[Armaggedon]

@Snipershot325
Do you really think games that are as dense as Bethesdas are going to be bug free? I wonder just how the hell they get all of that stuff into their games anyway, but people dont seem to realize just how much stuff is going on in those games. The Witcher 3 was a buggy mess for awhile, but of course no one gives them crap for that.

[VersusDMC]

While I don't really like most of the games Bethesda makes...ill praise them for giving shinji Mikami a chance to make the RE7 I wanted with The Evil Within.

[Hardiman]

Hell yeah it is!!! I can't wait till the Frozen Wilds!

[Atticus_finch]

The frozen wilds is almost out.

[StormLegend]

By far the best new IP this generation. So glad to see something "new" for a change and not the same old annual games every year.

[Poek]

Give it to me nows!

[DafunkyRebel]

That’s what she said

[Relientk77]

Such an amazing game, and the best new IP this generation

[Xenophon_York]

Yeah, but Killzone isn't on the same level as Elder Scrolls.

Might as well claim that Lucas Studios isn't necessarily tied to Star Wars.

And, on that note, I'm so ready for VI!

[UCForce]

But their game way more polished than Bethesda. Decima Engine can proved that.

[Xenophon_York]

Surprising to read so many disagreements.

If you don't think Bethesda will forever be known, first-and-foremost, as the developer of a bunch of Elder Scrolls games (as Lucas Studios will forever be known predominately as the production company that made a slew of Star Wars) you should revisit your opinion.

And, as far as Killzone not being on the same level as Elder Scrolls: There's a reason Skyrim has been re-released almost a half-a-dozen ways—including an upcoming VR version—on soon-to-be its sixth platform—Nintendo Switch.

[Edit: Lucasfilm LTD, not Lucas Studios]

[Xenophon_York]

I get the impression that generally Pete Hines is exceptionally fond of Microsoft. And, that this Zero Dawn praise is telling of something potentially much bigger than a simple tip-of-the-hat—even if Hines isn't even totally aware of it yet.

I'm sure the big story is being told when Bethesda' accountant shows Pete the sales figures (and therefore the company's bread-and-butter) of how many Skyrim/Doom/Fallout 4 numbers sold on either the XBOX One or PlayStation 4.

One wonders what Bethesda would be like if alliances shifted more favorably to Sony...

[Father__Merrin]

I believe if horizon wasn't PS exclusive it would have gotten 10's across the board. Game looks incredible

[IamTylerDurden1]

Horizon on PS4 Pro with a 4K HDR (OLED) is the best looking game i've ever seen. Funny thing is, it's also a great game.

[Xenophon_York]

The LG C7P?

[Xenophon_York]

A disagree vote for one of the indisputably best televisions ever made? And I thought my life was a bit dry, seeing how much I post on N4G.com. Guess some individual's are dryer...

[TheOttomatic91]

Great know if only Pete can get their internal dev team to release games like HZD and Witcher 3 and broken, ugly, sub par messes.

Or at least until gamers make mods that make their titles playable.

[Xenophon_York]

Look here, sonny...👴

So, back before open-world game design was all the rage, Bethesda dropped jaws with Elder Scroll III: Morrowind.

And, true, while it and all subsequent ES offerings from the developer have suffered from glitchy game design they have had a huge influence on the industry.

Still, I agree with a common rising concern that Bethesda is falling behind in a race they helped start. There's a great chance that the Skyrim creators have taken our criticism to heart and are aiming to rectify the situation with a unified release of a superiorly evolved Elder Scrolls (the sixth in the series) with Sony's PlayStation 5.

We should know for sure, by the latest, E3 two thousand nineteen, for a winter holiday of the same year (or mid Spring two thousand twenty) release—if these speculations are accurate.

[Chevalier]

I agree with Morrowwind, but, that was 2 generations ago. Their engine needs an upgrade and they have suffered a lot more major glitches than any other big publisher. They're literally referred to as Bugthesda for a reason. If they're releasing their next big project in 2019, those same publishers that they are competing with will probably be releasing new games and will have further updated their engines further as well. Decima engine right now is being refined with Hidea Kojima for Death Stranding and the engine used for Witcher will be refined for their new game as well.

[Armaggedon]

Bethesda games arent broken. Witcher 3 had just as many stupid glitches and.......those arent being bought up at all.

[DialgaMarine]

It's an excellent game. Guerilla's work deserves to be embraced by veterans in the industry.

[Felsager]

Respect and recognition between developers shows good sportsmanship. This is the type of behavior Cliffy B must learn.

[Legatus]

HZD truly is a magnificent game. Everything about this game is superb. Personaly, easily the best new IP this gen. Fully recommend everyone to play this gem. Once again, hats off to GG for making this gem of the game.

[FPS_D3TH]

Horizons and Witcher 3 really did stomp on bethesdas old title of open world kings. I hope it makes them seriously consider the future of elder scrolls and fallout titles. Don't just keep coming out with the same old, same old

[Armaggedon]

Stop. Bethesdas in game density and depth is still unmatched.Items randomly thrown throughout the map, and the game remembers them. Bodies rarely disappear. Their games are juggernauts of effort, and If anything is going to overthrow Bethesda, its going to be their current uprising in greedy practices.

[FPS_D3TH]

Stop? It's an opinion. Chill. And I'm sorry but fallout 4 was an utter disappointment. They have all the resources to step up to the plate and deliver but they decided to be antiquated and rely on same old same old. Meanwhile witcher 3 and a brand new IP Horizons comes out and shows them up, CD Projekt Red being a much smaller studio too. So no, I won't stop.

[Armaggedon]

So, let me get this straight. Witcher 3 dumbs down aspects from Witcher 2, and was quite buggy, and no one bats an eye. Fallout 4 does the same thing, but it gets crucified for it. No one comments on the awesome little details that they put into the game because "graphics are ugly and engine is dated." When has Bethesda ever had a stunningly pretty or smooth game that they developed? That's the trade off of trying to pack a game with alot of cool stuff. The Witcher 3 is not my cup of tea, but I can still see that the developers put a lot of effort into it and put out an excellent game. But it is no fun watching people put out one sided views for their game, and then flog other games for doing the exact same stuff.

[Armaggedon]

Yes, they are a smaller studio. But have you seen some their employee reviews? During the time of the Witchers developed,the employee reviews were very negative, and claim that the small team had to endure extreme amounts of brutal and merciless crunch time, as well as the team being disorganized. That game came with alot of blood and sweat,and who is to say that Bethesda game studios did not endure similar hardship trying to squeeze mini Minecraft into their game, as well as somewhat respectable visuals, while trying to improve the shooting and gameplay mechanics and keep the game running. Cant give CDProject all the credit,other devs are putting in work too. They didnt even expect their game to be this well received, it just so happens that more people enjoy a cinematic, story driven experience over going out and doing anything they want.

[Thomaticus]

I like when devs comment positively on other devs' work.

[NotanotherReboot]

i found this game to be painfully average. Visuals were nice though

[UCForce]

That's your opinion. Like it or not, HZD have become massive success for GG and big influence to whole industry. And you, you are just being selfish. It's like you want to force them not to step out comfort zone. This is why I judge your attitude.

[Armaggedon]

Really, it upsets you that he finds the game to be average. I mean its not an average game, its probably just average in the aspects that he likes in a game. It depends on what one looks for in a game that will determine if one likes it. I know I cant get into it, and I still think the game is amazing, even though I cant play it. The depth of player choice and customization on how one wishes to play Horizon Zero Dawn is not something that is there, and that keeps some people from enjoying it.

[UCForce]

@Armageddon You should know more about Frinker. He made a lot of poor statements.

[Elda]

He has great taste,can't wait for The Frozen Wilds.