World Favorite Wii Going HD

THE world's most popular games console is being upgraded.

Japanese games giant Nintendo is developing a high-definition model of its Wii console, which has sold more than 30 million units globally. Though no official announcement has been made, games developers in Japan have been given top secret briefings on the next-generation console, thought to be named Wii HD. The new console will support high-definition graphics, bringing it in line with Sony's PS3 and Microsoft's Xbox 360 and will likely debut in late 2011. More information following the link.

[Internet Trolling Ex]

It's a sure bet it's going to be more powerful than the xbox 360,Mario Galaxy already outdoes the majority of xbox 360 games in terms of graphics so just think how awesome Mario Galaxy 2 is going to look like

[Sanzee]

Super Mario Galaxy outdoes a majority of Xbox 360 games? I'm NO obsessive console fan, but even I know some common sense. My friend, their hardware is completely different. The Wii graphics chip is nowhere near as powerful as the 360's, and certainly not near the PS3's either. I can see that many of your statements are based on opinion. And if you feel that Super Mario's Galaxy graphic-style is better than most Xbox games, than thats fine. But aside from what art-style you like, the 360 outputs an image of far greater detail.

I'm just letting you know the facts from the fiction bud. Peace and love.

[ChickeyCantor]

sanzee,

Reading his name and yet taking him seriously?

[AngryTypingGuy]

Sidar...good point.

[KobeT24]

This is the Wii that should have launched back in 06. Not five years later to compete with systems that would be going into a new generation anyways.

[RKRigney]

Hopefully it'll be more powerful than the 360 and PS3, instead of on par. It's not like that random site would know ALL the details anyway.

[Winter47th]

Unfortunately the 2011 deadline's a huge turn-off to get excited about anything they might come up with.

[PopEmUp]

yeah like it Nintendo can compete with sony/M$ in that department

[Jake1111]

It will probably still have a small storage capacity CD or something. Why waste any more money when the PS3 is already here, will have home and an amazing library of games.

[B Man]

It won't be more powerful, unless they call it Wii 2. You can't have another version of the same console capable of playing more powerful games. Otherwise they'd have to make 2 versions of the same game, for the same system... one good quality and one not-so-much.

[Ateanboy]

This is complete BS...

A Wii? With graphics "in line with the PS3 and Xbox 360"???

Never.

[thereapersson]

Once you've embedded the casual gaming aspect in people's minds, no amount of graphical upgrades are going to make the difference in game quality.

[Mini Mario]

"2 - Yet it will still contain the exact same amount of shovelware!
Once you've embedded the casual gaming aspect in people's minds, no amount of graphical upgrades are going to make the difference in game quality."

Yet u probably had no problem with the ps1 and 2 having loads of sh*tty shovelware. The psOne was stock to the brim of crappy games. The ps2 was the most popular last gen so it had the most (and the gamecube had heaps less). Now the wii is the most popular and it has the most.

It doesnt take too much to understand this yet ppl always get amnesia when it comes to shovelware considering sony flooded the market with it with the psOne.

O but now u blame nintendo. Well bravo. considering nintendo doesnt make the crap, its 3rd party companys that do.

- Now i will quote u from the future :- You "well they make a crappy machine, companys will make crappy games"

My answer - Well nintendo sure seem to make pretty good games....Mario galaxy got game of the year for 99% of gaming sites and magazines. So it doesnt make sense that a "crappy" machine can produce a game of the year now does it....like u said its about the "quality".

Are the games u played and loved on the ps2 STILL quailty now that they are "last gen" graphics>? Or are they STILL great games to play even tho they are last gen>?

[ChickeyCantor]

@bot,
But thats the thing, while Wii has great games too you people just ignore it.(no matter how the balance is)

Get a hint, you guys are being hypocrites.

[Maxned]

You are completely wrong. Most shovelware one the wii are ports from either the pc that have terrible graphics are ports from the GameCube that have terrible graphics too.

[nieto2]

@mini mario: "Yet u probably had no problem with the ps1 and 2 having loads of sh*tty shovelware. The psOne was stock to the brim of crappy games. The ps2 was the most popular last gen so it had the most (and the gamecube had heaps less). Now the wii is the most popular and it has the most."

- do you seriously believe what you're saying? this it's just a spin of facts from a fanboy trying to defend his console at all cost. this only makes sense/logic if you don't know how to think.

when there are games like: (ps1) Xenogears, FFVII, Suikoden, Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Fear Effect, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Gran Turismo, Legend of Dragoon, Chrono Cross, Legacy of Kain, Persona, Strider 2, Mega Man X4, Brave Fencer Musashi, Ape Scape, Lunar, Klonoa, Tomba!, Medi Evil, Heart of Darkness, Tekken, Tomb Raider, (ps2) Kingdom Hearts, FFX, God of War, Devil May Cry, Shadow of the Colossus, Ico, Socom, Onimusha, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Dragon Quest VIII, Zone of the Enders, Marvel vs Capcom 2 {- you know that the PS1 and PS2 has only two competitors for greatest console of all times and those are the SNES and NES. so please don't come with your spinning to try and bash the PS1 or PS2.

=BTW tell me if you want me to mention a few more games because these are not the only great games on the PS1 or PS2 there are a lot more like: Shadow Hearts, Xenosaga, Guilty Gear X, Odin Sphere, Front Mission 3, Grandia, Wild Arms, Shinobi, Tenchu, Syphon Filter, Star Ocean 2, Street Fighter Alpha and i'm not even mentioning sport games or sequels.... ;-D

@Sidar: "Wii has great games too you people just ignore it.(no matter how the balance is)"

- mention the games or find a list. what can you post in here? Prime 3, Zelda TP(GC), Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Smash Bros Brawl mmmm what more? maybe No More Hero, mmmmmmmm, Red Steel?, Fire Emblem, Super Paper Mario... come on help me! ;-)

[Mahr]

Um, he didn't say there were no great games on either of the Playstation consoles or that they were bad systems, he just said there were a lot of terrible games on both of them. Which there were.

[nieto2]

mini mario: "Yet u probably had no problem with the ps1 and ps2 having loads of sh*tty shovelware."

-and i'm telling him why we did nor care... why we did not care? because we got a lot and i mean a -{{{{HUGE!}}}}-!!!!! library of great games. he's trying to justify the Wii shovelware ocean bashing the ps1 and ps2. two consoles that are in another league on their own.

he could use as example the PS3 better but even the PS3 has a couple of tittles to defend itself. the Wii it's not selling because it has a lot of great games, the Wii it's selling because of the way you play the games. the masses are impress and are still riding the wave of novelty that the Wii presents with its motion sensing controller and other peripherals. the amount of shovelware in the Wii outweighs for a considerable margin the number of great games on the system and that's why in this case we care about this and use it as a negative point to bash on the Wii but we didn't care when the PS1 and PS2 got them(the bunch of crappy games).

now you understand? 0-0
that's not too hard to comprehend.... but you can disagree and the fanboy can take more of my bubbles. that's not going to silence me. ;-)

[Mahr]

"and i'm telling him why we did nor care... why we did not care?because we got a lot and i mean a -{{{{HUGE!}}}}-!!!!! library of great games."

Fair enough, although I'm not particularly certain of the extent that it's valid to compare the libraries of systems that were/have been out for eleven years and eight years respectively to the library of a system that's been out for around, uh, two or so if I'm not mistaken.

"he's trying to justify the Wii shovelware ocean bashing the ps1 and ps2"

Well, I'm not actually inside his head and he's not here to speak for himself, but I don't think he was actually bashing either system. I think he was actually saying that a system can be great in spite of an ocean of shovelware and that when measuring a system, it's somewhat unfair to measure by the worst it has to offer.

I don't think you or I or even he would disagree too strongly on that point.

"the Wii it's not selling because it has a lot of great games, the Wii it's selling because of the way you play the games. the masses are impress and are still riding the wave of novelty that the Wii presents with its motion sensing controller and other peripherals."

Well, there, I'd have to disagree with you a bit, as I'm not a big fan of broad, sweeping generalizations that deal with over 30 million people. For instance, I myself own a Wii because I think it's a lot of fun, possibly the most fun I've had this generation.

"the amount of shovelware in the Wii outweighs for a considerable margin the number of great games on the system and that's why in this case we care about this and use it as a negative point to bash on the Wii but we didn't care when the PS1 and PS2 got them (the bunch of crappy games)."

Well, here you lost me, because it sounds like you're advocating some kind of ratio of good games to bad games as a measurement of how a console is. And I really don't think that's a very useful way of going about things. I mean, if a system has a hundred good games and a thousand terrible games, then that's a ratio of ten terrible games for every good game and the bad games outnumber the good. And a system with only one bad game and ten good games would have a ten good games to one terrible. Does that make the second hypothetical system a better system than the first?

I'm not a big fan of using ratios as measures of success, as I don't really think ratios operate on a level that we as consumers are capable of actually perceiving outside of some vague, number-crunching mathematical calculations.

That, and there's the obvious difficulty in how one even defines what a "great" game actually is, given that most people have different tastes and personal preferences when it comes to gaming.

"but you can disagree and the fanboy can take more of my bubbles."

Actually, I don't ever really use either of those buttons. If I agree or disagree with a post, then I write a post myself to get the point across. Actually clicking some kind of link to indicate my view seems kinda redundant to me. And as for the bubbles thing, I only give people bubbles as I don't particularly agree with N4G's policy of "You get X number of posts on a topic" policy. I mean, if people have something they want to say on something, they should be able to say it.

[Captain_Sony]

You act as though Wii does not have any quality games as well. It does.PS2 had about 30% good games.70 Kids games,casual games and complete crap shovel ware. What you are trying to argue with are games from throughout the PS2's life span. Nobody can argue against 8 years of games with a machine thats only had 2 yers to have games out. Of course you can name a good bit of PS2 games off. No system will probably ever beat the PS2 over all but that does not mean that it was all quality or mainly quality. I would suggest looking into the PS2 library a little more. Strawberry shortcake, redneck rampage, Postman Pat, Power Rangers, everybody's golf,High School musical,James Bond Nightfire,Iron man, Enter the Matrix, Simpsons road rage, Finding Nemo, Shrek 2, Scoobie Doo,Arcana Heart, wall-E, Cars Pacman, Spongebob, Chaos Wars, Jackass, Jaws Unleashed,Bratz, Fiesta Hyper girls party. I could honestly keep going. I also found it odd as I looked over the PS2 library that many of the games people make fun of on Wii are also on PS2. You really do not want to start talking about games off PS2. Sure you can pull up 8 years worth of decent or better games, but you can also pull up a much bigger list of games that most would consider garbage. The best thing to do about the Wii if you are one of those that hates it is to just leave it alone and not bother yourself with it. You do not make PS3, or 360 fans look very good when you are acting like a jerk on here. Your opinion does not equal fact. No amount of insulting someone else will change that or make you right. I have no interest in the 360 myself so I couldnt tell you anything about it. I do not go to the 360 news on any site. I think some of you would be a lot happier if you just stayed away from anything related to the Wii because it is obvious you do not want to discuss anything. Just hate. Hate never accomplishes anything so no point in having it here. I am sure each one of you could find something better to do with your time rather than wasting it arguing over a console that you do not own and have no intention of buying.

[nieto2]

your response seems fair. i don't have anything else to say. ;-)

[gano]

.......I just don't know anymore.......
2yrs later and the ps4 will drop, then what.

[Mini Mario]

".......I just don't know anymore.......
2yrs later and the ps4 will drop, then what."

I can tell u. ps4 drops.....FPS, FPS, FPS, FPS, FPS, BEtter GRaphics,
FPS, RTS, FPS.....

Exactly the same games! EXACTLTY the same games uve played over and over and over. Respawn, respawn, Respawn...o yea Head Shot!, Respawn Respawn.

But hey ..better graphics....must be better games....am i right>?

[madjedi]

Okay mario if were talking about repeats, the same games, nintendo fanboys have no room to talk about sony or microsoft repeating games/sequels when nintendo is no different.

As for when the ps4 launches look at the other three launch periods and that should be a decent idea as to what to expect. How about you, actually look at some of the ps3's games instead of talking out of your ass.

As for ps1 and ps2 shovelware vs good games averyangry_bot said it just fine.

And better graphics doesn't always equal a better game, the game i have played the most is probably fairly low of the graphics teir for the ps3.

Disgaea 3 100+ hrs of playtime and the the fact that the graphics aren't making my eyes bleed doesn't bother me in the slightest.

The reason people don't give most ps2 or xbox games a ration of sh^t about the level of graphics, is because at its time it was the best hardware available at the time.

It is not the same case for the wii, i never understood why some wii owners cannot grasp that kick ass graphics and solid gameplay can coexist on ps3/360 games.

[ChickeyCantor]

Madjedi,

" Okay mario if were talking about repeats, the same games, nintendo fanboys have no room to talk about sony or microsoft repeating games/sequels when nintendo is no different.
"
The thing is mini mario is making a COUNTER argument.
He wasn't the one who started the " PS3 and 360 are doing the same sh/t over and over", thats what Nintendo haters started.

He basically put you back in reality.

[LethalToxins]

@ Sidar
Actually, he's not really making a COUNTER argument as you put it. He has to be replying to some sort of an argument to begin with to do that. He isn't. He's just being a fanboy. An empty statement about the PS4 being released then, given there's really no relevant info on what it will be like or Wii HD, doesn't exactly qualify as an argument.

@Madjedi
The fact that the PS2/Xbox had the best hardware of last gen doesn't take any credibility from his point. Comparitively poor graphics to the gaming world of today, still had great games. Contrary to what YOU believe, the Wii does have good games. For example, Punch Out!!! was one of the best boxing games ever made (imo), remake or not, are you saying you have no interest in playing it? Graphics =/= everything. It's the whole package that makes a game.

[N4g_null]

gano Two years later the PS4 will be released. I'm just wondering what do you think SONY will use in it? ATI currently makes the best GPU for HD gaming on the PC side and really the price of those chips for the 4700 cards will be pretty cheap after all the die shrinks. A Wii HD could be the same price as the current Wii in 2011. In four years lots could happen. Larrabee will be seen in PCs and possibly even the next Wii.

The Wii's chip set is already showing some impressive results with only 88 megs of ram on die with chips that are not running at Ghz yet. Make you wonder what a speed ramp with multiple cores would do. Add a ring bus in there so all the GPU parts can team up if a pool of 88x4 352 megs of ram and you have your self a very sick system for HD. The cost of an actually Wii chip set would be enough to put it into the next gameboy after die shrinks.

The graphics tech had some maturing to do though and it's happening now. The next Wii will be a snes like machine which means it's the Wii yet in a very hardcore HD capable set up that still is affordable to the expanded audience.

If you have seen crysis then that is the ceiling the HD system are working with right now. It's not going to get much higher than than unless larrabee is what every one is saying it is.

The next xbox and PS4 will not have a huge jump in graphics if they are going to use an old PC solution again. This will let nintendo improve there system while the HD guys just stay the same. Franchises can be tested and made on the Wii and expanded into HD game play on the next system which has to support every thing that nintendo is currently doing.

Most people are talking about the blue ocean but after the success the next blue ocean becomes the actually hardcore HD gamers. If SONY and MS try to come out with $600 systems again then they will be shooting them selves in the foot because the current HD standard for gaming is clearly good enough and most console gamers are not impressed by PC HD graphics.

The Wii has actually corrected the market rather than close it off from new an past players. With out those gamers gaming could die. The example is PC gaming of course. Only certain games sell on those systems.

Nintendo was smart to skip this pricey transition. It reminds me when I had to buy loads of ram back in the day that cost me $1000s of dollar just to get 4 times that amount for the same price. There is wisdom in skipping transition periods and letting the noobs eat the bill some times. That is what nintendo has done.

[RememberThe357]

This is people comparing the three systems and seeing that they like more games on the PS3/X360, thats it. As gamers I think we all have a place in our hearts for Nintendo, but the Wii is a toy, and for gamers it's almost insulting. Now there are you guys who will take my bubbles or what ever you do when you get mad, but as a gamers I don't see enough to justify picking one up. Me and my brother have a Wii and I never play it, it's basically his. Super Mario Galaxy was a blast and I'll probably pick up Mad World, but beyond that, there is no reason to own that machine.

Now, this is Nintendo so I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. I truly hope they come next time with games, not just a simple ass controller, and a low price point.

[Bubble Buddy]

"Exactly the same games! EXACTLTY the same games uve played over and over and over. Respawn, respawn, Respawn..."

And your name is Mario...

[kunit22c]

i just found madjedi funny he is talking about nintendo repeating?!?! um you must take a look at sony and somewhat microsoft. hmmmm.... sony has had the same controller for their 3 consoles? and all they have done each time is make more fps and add better graphics ohh and lets not forget about more hardware space oooooh lets praise it, and Microsoft same deal besides the controller but hey whats this??? nintendo is mixing it up?? they aren't only im proving graphics but they are changing the type of gameplay?? what?!? no your right they are so repeating everything, mario galaxy hell yeah i play that the same way as super mario sunshine. haha no. Twilight princess yeah i play it the same way as all the other zelda games. Also lets take a look at the future. hmm sony's options: either make another console that costs even more and just has better graphics and more hardware space, or copy nintendo with motion sensing. Microsofts options are the same. Nitnedo's options: make a new console with better graphics upgraded more accurate motion sensing, and more hardware space or come up with a completely new idea which they are really good at doing. So yeah when you talk about nintendo repeating you dont know what you are talking about; but lets mention some other games that are so called (repeats) hm paper mario? oh yeah same gameplay as all the others for sure! no. Metroid prime oh yeah same gameplay, not. Mario kart wii, oh yeah same gameplay as all the others totaly, not.

[TheDude2dot0]

@Mini Mario

It's funny that you say that considering every good game on the Wii is a sequel.

[Fruit Loops]

Really? I guess they finally got it just now

[Killjoy3000]

It's funny to, because it probably wouldn't even be able to run games as good as the PS3 can now.

[Mini Mario]

Yeh o yeh. I mean crap how did we ever survive playing mega man 9. Man the game was soooo ooollllld looking.

Stuff the gameplay who needs that. I mean mega man 9 MUST be crap. Look at the GRapHics. Wow. And did u hear..warioland is in...2D! Its like we're stuck in a time machine...huh...or maybe, just maybe...enough people begged capcom to make..another mega man just the way it was. I mean taking him to 3D certainly didnt do him any favors lets face it.

Its funny coz the better the graphics get...the more it looks like real life. Hmmm, sounds pretty dull really.

Yoshi's Island, now theres a game that was well thought out and had awesome art direction.

[FantasyStar]

It's important that Gameplay should be valued, but in this age of gaming, graphics, art direction, and presentation play equally important roles. I used to think that gameplay > graphics until I owned a Wii and could not stand the graphics, presentation, sub-HD res, blurry screen, black bars all over my HDTV. And then there's games that look great, but play horribly.

I say great games are the ones that can masterfully wield both hand-in-hand. SO far LBP and Killzone 2 are looking to define that meaning.

[Maxned]

Oh, and Bioshock looks amazing on the ps3, right?

[Killjoy3000]

No, but Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted, Motorstorm,Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet are great looking games that to my knowledge all look better than any game on 360 so don't be a smartass.

[Ju]

Hey, hey, we can post in Wii threads. That's fun :) BTW: BS (oh, BioShock) runs at least better on PS3 then on the Wii. LOL. Then there is no UE3 on the Wii. But, with the Wii2 you guys will also enjoy the "broad library of games build on UE3". LMAO.

(And about the posting in Wii threads. I qualify. At least I got one. Wii. That is :)

[N4g_null]

LOL Mini Mario I'm just wonder why you answered his question with a totally different argument? He was talking about the PS3 running better than a Wii HD. The funny thing is it's coming in 2011 rumored to be coming then on top of that he does not know what it is using to produce those HD graphics. They could use some sort of line doubler in hardware or they could be talking about the next gen race starting in 2011. Now if that is the case then the Wii HD could easily look better than the up coming PS4 or xbox next. It all is decided on how they go with for the graphics and what is the most affordable at the time.

I mean you can get a Radeon HD 4870 for $270 now that card runs crysis just fine. This card $ 57.99-geforce 8600 gts would easily out do any thing on an HD console right now. It was out before the PS3 if I remember. So I mean really Nintendo are the guys that used SGI guys to help make their cards SONY made the PS1 with out a z buffer LOL. Nintendo's old hardware with a increase may not be doing HD graphics but it still is kicking a$$ sales wise. Yet the PS2 has died off totally. Hey but that's not about power though. I'm thinking MS will out spend SONY next time and SONY will come up with some great sounding ideas to get every one hype but give us a spec increase.

SONY and MS can not pull a core duo because they don't have the talent that intel has tech wise. ATI and Nvidia will make you pay for their tech LOL. So basically nintendo just has to get parts that are actually ready for mass market instead of taking a loss. You could have ran UT3 6 years ago but you needed a quad sli set up and lots of ram. Now it runs on low end systems and even PS3s. Tech and good coding makes up for over spending on R&D.

[RKRigney]

This has GOT to be fake.

[SonySoldierEternaL]

meh

can't wait for MARIO HD!

/sarcasm

[Born2BK1NG]

like your avatar SonySoldierEternaL, GO LUPE FIASCO! :)

[SonySoldierEternaL]

yup. he's a lyrical genious

[condorstrike]

this smells fake, like they saw the blogs on this site and posted it on their website, besides no proof...

[Whoooop]

LOL

[dkgshiz]

But the odds of them having more than 2 M games is one in a million. Not trying to hate on the Wii. But it has way too many generic games.

[Voiceofreason]

not trying to hate but you are acting like the Wii is the only console to have kids games when it was the PS1 and PS2 that showed Nintendo the route they should go. Now that things have changed for Sony you are trying to act like it has always been that way. You are either an extreme idiot or this is your first gen of gaming. OR do you really consider Postman Pat,Power Rangers, Blues Clues or any of the other hundreds of kids games they have to be AAA quality? Go get a clue wtf you are talking about then come back. Hard to take someone who knows nothing about gaming seriously.

[Veryangry_bot]

There is a difference between

PSX: -30% kids games/ casuals/ flops
- 50% Triple A franchises
- 20% in between

and

Wii:
-95% kiddie shovelware and ports
- a few Triple A Nintendo franchises

MAJOR DIFFERENCE. If you cant tell, then youre dumber than a piece of rock.

Its funny how many fanboys are using the title to somehow justify how "nothing is wrong on Nintendo front". Even if this wii is indeed going to HD, that does not mean everything will suddenly change.

Playing Power rangers in HD or Spiderman wii in HD makes no difference. They remain extraordinarily shiatty games. Except that now you can see in UBER DETAIL HOW CRAPPY THE RESOLUTION is. Great! Thats what gamers have always wanted! NOT.

That wii is going HD neither means that 3rd party developer will suddenly pump out Resident Evil 6s, GTA5s, DMC5s, SF5s etc on the wii! IT JUST MEANS THAT NOW YOU GET TO PLAY BONKER BEACHVOLLEYBALL IN HIGH DEFINITION!

[ChickeyCantor]

@bot
you are so right because Ps2 had all those triple AAA titles in its second year.

First try to fight your own logic you are skipping a huge step.

" That wii is going HD neither means that 3rd party developer will suddenly pump out Resident Evil 6s, GTA5s, DMC5s, SF5s etc on the wii"

Actually they will, if wii was as strong as Ps3/360 you would have seen RE5 on it, GTA4 etc etc.( talking about now and same would count for future releases)
With all these high developement costs for 3thparty developers its better to go multiplat, than hope that one console will save your ass.

[Veryangry_bot]

The PS2 did not had the Triple As in the beginning. The comparison you make is one that is similar to the PS3. Not the wii.

The wii had its Triple As in the beginning but like the Gamecube wont have much else in the remaining years.

Its outgunned. And it is by no way comparable with the PS2. The PS2 got its games. The wii...lol

"Actually they will, if wii was as strong as Ps3/360 you would have seen RE5 on it, GTA4 etc etc.( talking about now and same would count for future releases)"

>> the wii is already done for, boy. By releasing a totally new hardware model, you are screwing EVERY early installer. If the wii sold 55 million by 2011, all these 55 million will be screwed because the "hardcore" superbly looking games for the wii2, cant be played on the wii 1 that they own.

In other words, wii 2 will have an install base of zero. And 55 million angry wii 1 owners.

You are not very smart, are you?

[ChickeyCantor]

" The wii had its Triple As in the beginning but like the Gamecube wont have much else in the remaining years.

"

Right... just because Nintendo had a batch of their own games in the beginning doesn't mean its the end there.

GCN didn't had the same support as the Wii has now.

"the wii is already done for, boy. By releasing a totally new hardware model, you are screwing EVERY early installer."

OMG you are such a joke Wii was released End 2006, this console will be released in 2011. ( and since they always release their console lat years same will ahppen for 20011)
How is that screwing anyone up?
do the math you moron 2011 - 2006 = 5 years.

5 YEARS! A NORMAL CONSOLE LIFE.
You are the idiot, seriously.

Also pretending that consumers won't jump to new hardware is more nonsensical.
If that was true B-ray drivers wouldn't be selling since you can't play B-ray on a DVD player.

SERIOUSLY GTFO

[Veryangry_bot]

You are correct. Gamecube actually had more support than Wii from developers...Talk about sad.

Talk about screwing your install base over and for the idiots amongst us, whether it be 55 million or 90 million by 2011, it does not matter.

What matters is, those people are SCREWED over whether you like it or not.

Good luck finding more than 2 million of that 55 million to rebuy a wii 2.

Idiots.

Edit: Sidar you massive idiot. I will say again: GAMECUBE ACTUALLY HAD MORE SUPPORT THAN THE WII. TALK ABOUT BEING SAD. LEARN HOW TO FKING READ.

[pixelsword]

The NES had a No blood/no controversial stance before the PS1 existed, then they flooded the market with Saturday Afternoon Cartoon-lke characters (Mario, Princess Peach, Luigi, Toad, Donkey Kong, Link, Fox McCloud, the list goes on) which both gave and inflated the preception that Nintendo had kiddy games.

When Sony first came out, they thad Twisted Medal, Warhawk, Loaded, and other games that never would've been on any Nintendo system. The SNES version of Mortal Kombat didn't even have blood.

[ChickeyCantor]

"You are correct. Gamecube actually had more support than Wii from developers...Talk about sad.
"

A you can't even read, I said GCN didn't had the support Wii has now.
Meaning that GCN never had the current support Nintendo is getting NOW.

Why the hell did i even bother you are a F troll.

Funny thing is you think that Sony can reach the 120m mark again, yet you contradict your own logic by saying Nintendo Will never have the same consumers.

Its time that you STFU..thank you.

[Product]

@ pixels
Actually the Sega saturn had titles that were of more mature flavor and it was released before the playstation so i think it was just that time for the video game industry as much as people want to tthink Sony created it.
The video game industry actually tried more mature titles on systems such as the Atari Jaguar and again in the same year (1993) the panaconis 3do which the market was just not ready for such games especially since they were so expensive and the playstation being the cheapest console of the time at a launch price of $299.

[C_Dub]

Can we stop with the BS? Nobody outside of Big N's realms really knows what's going on behind those doors, so lets just wait a few more years...okay? :P

[N4g_null]

That is so true I know no one in the west that has the info on this one. This could be fake but I still have not seen the docs for the Wii arcade board. So who knows?

Lots of stuff is happening in 09.
direct x 11
larrabee
AMD/ATI fusion project
open GL stuff
better graphical programming concepts.

Lots of die shrinks and new chips appearing. The GPCPU war officially starts. tech wise there are lots of things yet I have no Idea if japan is going to make any thing worth competing with. Who knows things have been quiet over there. No power VR stuff yet it makes a come back with larrebee in a tile render idea.

[Djomblade1]

LMAO...wow I really dont have the words to describe this. Funny as hell though. "Wii...are getting HD" LOL as if it matters.

[Mini Mario]

"11 -
LMAO...wow I really dont have the words to describe this. Funny as hell though. "Wii...are getting HD" LOL as if it matters."

OBVIOUSLY it matters to alot of people on this site. Notice how i said "this site" and not the real world. Because lets face it no1 in the real world (well 90%) would care less if it was HD, i would be surprised if they even knew that the wii wasnt HD to begin with!

So to ur quote - Does it matter>? Hmmmm well not really but to some of u i guess it makes u feel..ahhh..........tougher... .. ... .? Or something>?

[Ju]

Nobody knows its not HD when they buy it. But everybody does after they bring it home and hook it up to their HD TVs. LOL.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

LOL, if they meet PS3 and 360 by 2011, then they will be facing the Next Xbox (it will have 6 years in November 2011) and PS4 (which I think will be coming 2012 or 2013).

You don't have to be much smart to think that Sony and MS next consoles will probably come with BOTH gamepads and motion controls, either in one single piece of hardware (like the Sixaxis but that actually works) or as two separated goodies, that may or may not be bundled (but they can always make it available bundled with a game).

So, the next Wii will have PS3/360 quality in graphics, phisics calculations, etc... But by there, the competition will have BETTER cpus and gpus AND the Wii controller.

Is Nintendo going dumber by the hour?

And just to point out, last time I checked, the most used and most selled console (favorite? most popular?) is the PS2, people use to forget that it still in most people's homes just because it is selling less now (naturally, new gen come, last gen deep).

[Mini Mario]

"PM
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LOL, if they meet PS3 and 360 by 2011, then they will be facing the Next Xbox (it will have 6 years in November 2011) and PS4 (which I think will be coming 2012 or 2013)."

Well according to sony they said it was a Ten year gen...so 2013...>? 2016 maybe if UR lucky. I mean like sony huh would lie to there "fans" right. Its a ten year strategy, the big ten, u remember u guys keep saying how great the graphics are...o but thats not included if u compare it to a pc because lets face it the ps3 has graphics of a 5 year old pc...but that doesnt count because u know the pc doesnt have games.....>? or... .. online>?

But hey maybe by the time the new wii does come out it will be way better than the ps3 or 360...so then what..ur gonna wait till 2016 (according to sony) for next gen graphics...coz u know how its all bout the graphics and u gotta get ur fix somewhere. even if it is a wii right.

Well at least u can look forward to motion controls (2016), seems like a long time......but none of u "hardcore" guys seem to like it anyway. I guess it will grow on u. Actually i PREDICT that it will grow on u around 2016.

Just a random guess tho.

[orakga]

A couple of misconceptions there.

When Sony mentions the "10 year lifecycle", it doesn't mean that the next system will come out in 2016. Rather, they are saying that the console will hold valuable for 10 years after launch, and that people who buy it in 2006 will still have games to play on them in 2016.

Just look at the PS2. So far, it has had 8 and a half years in the market, and is still selling exceptionally well. THAT's what they mean by a "10 year lifecycle". Of course, by then, we are assuming that the PS3 will be priced around $100, and to be honest anybody who waits that long to get one isn't interested in playing videogames in any serious matter, but that's irrelevant to the 10-year strategy.

Instead, the next console will come out at the latest by 2014, if not in 2012 or 2014.

It's Moore's Law.

[V0LT]

Can't wait to get my hands on 10 year old hardware with HD functionality in 2011.

[pansenbaer]

Ha! Pwned! Seriously, who cares? It was like that rumor a while back that they were going to add DVD watching capabilities to the Wii. Well that was maybe 4 months after I got the Wii and I would have considered my unit worthless. It would be the same if Microsoft suddenly started using a Blu-Ray drive to increase storage capacity. It wouldn't make sense! What about the 20+ million people that already bought one. Hopefully this is false.

[Captain_Sony]

LOL you would have considered a console that played DVD's to be worthless simply because you didnt want to download a movie decoder program for the Wii? Maybe you did not know it can already play DVD's. That's the format the games use as well.How can people own a product and not even know what it does?

[soul899er]

LMAO! x]

[Product]

i dont care either way in 2011 a new res will prolly be available then 1080p( a change occurs about every 6 years) or the new led or sed televisions will become the standard over flat panel just like flat panel became more popular then plasma.
By then bluray(if still supported) will be the new standard and be cheap tech,while digital distribution and online rentals will become more popular.
Next gen for all systems will see cheap tech for profit reasons i think but by then Nintendo will either churn or burn in thier creativity and while the wii is selling like gas it doesnt mean that Nintendos next creative push will hit such a mass market as this gen has seen.Nintendo has always either flourished with their ideas or thought they were so good to do things alone in this market(n64,gamecube)that it has hurt them(supporting cartridge well into the cd era of entertainment).
I honestly believe that vr type headsets will be the next thing,similiar to virtual boy only we now have the tech to create something smaller scale like the comparisions of cell phones from the 90's(big bulky)to the ones from the new age(Things changed with the Motorola Razr).

Honestly people in the video game industry,electronics and industrial design departments have more creativity then we can imagine and idea such as the Virtual boy,Powerglove and such radical ideas were just to ahead of their time and we will see those same ideas down the road in a different form which happens all the time in electronic tech.

Graphics will continue to get better but honestly i think in the next gens we will see more and more that these new ideas will become more powerful then all the arguments about who has better graphics.

The way we experience video games will become more important then hardware stats.
but this is all imo.

[madjedi]

About a new resolution appearing in 2011, thats possible but kinda useless most all cable/tv (non gaming) content will still be running the max of 1080p.

Although more likely a mixture of 720p and 1080i, and even if they do people that have bought 720p or 1080p tv will not be buying a new one for many years. Unless it is a hell of a bump i don't see gamers upgrade much either.

I agree with most of your post, except by 2011 i believe oled tvs will be the main new type of tv, i have heard very little about sed tvs.

[orakga]

I hate you for reminding me about the OLEDs.
I'm completely broke already!!!! =)

And I agree with you.
Considering the other technologies that have to catch up to support a beyond-1080p resolutions, we're not going to see the next resolution appear in the mainstream market until 2015 at the earliest. So, the next-gen systems are still going to be stuck at 1080p.

And let's be real honest here, shall we? The current-gen resolution is 720p, not 1080p. So, if the next-gen systems can (finally) fully support 1080p, that would be a great achievement in itself.

[kesvalk]

the important is not the grapics, never were...

i hope they make a better multiplayer (no FC please) and a better nintendo channel, more like it's here on n4g...

the rest is just a bonus

[madjedi]

vc not included

Okay imagine playing a full new zelda game only with 8 bit graphics, or a new metriod prime game using graphical assets from super metroid.

Game devs aren't that stupid, nor are even nintendo gamers that forgiving, a game released today looking like that would be torn to shreds.

If graphics were never important we would still be playing on 8 bit systems, with little to no detail on weapons, levels enemies ect.

[ChickeyCantor]

Madjedi,

Ofcourse gfx are important else we wouldn't be seeing a menu.
its just that at some point the level of detail is enough to setup a world.

If you really wanna make a cinematic game, yes than those ultra high quality gfx matter but when you just want to have a setting that is more than acceptable then there is no reason to make everything shiny.

While i love MEtroid prime, i'm still waiting for a new 2d one.

[Product]

@ Madjedi
Im saying that because of what i see
Go back to the mid 90's and bigger was better you had huge analog tv's that were at the time of the arrival of dvd, going widescreen for a very hefty price,picture res. was still analog but digital cable was just being introduced.Now fast forward just a couple of years and the arrival of the plasma screen appeared and then the lcd while this happened the new tv's were in ED form being 480p(trying to be at level of progressive scan dvd's that were appearing)

fast forward a couple more years and HD arrived with its 720p or 1080i clarity and everyone had their jaws dropped......the tech was so popular that by 2009 it would be government standard.Then a couple years later 1080p this all happened quite fast seeing as how before dvd the only real thing for tv in the past 50 years was color.

10 years from analog to 1080p...just 10 years( or so)........and your saying that in 3+ years we wont see something else in either res or tv?

BTW sed tv's are tv's that have the quality of a ctr that is only a few centimeters thick and it flexible to the point of it being like a thick sheet of paper.(hypothetical but possible)

[Captain_Sony]

@MadJedi
Doesnt Megaman9 prove you wrong? It is an old school game with everything you mention gamers would hate. Yet many are loving the game as we speak. I personally would not have a problem playing SMB4 on the Wii for 12.00, or Star Tropics 3 for 12.00.

[madjedi]

@Product i think you misinterepted what i said, i agreed that we will more than likely have a new top resolution for tvs and even a type oled/sed tv ect.

But that any change in the max resolution is pointless do to most all the content being viewed, will be 1080p or less, till you get content running at 1440p ect a tv that goes up that high is a only good for bragging rights.

@sidar i was basicaly calling him on the stupid blanket style statement he said. I never said i like everything shiny in fact the opposite i can't stand the halo style, where everything in the game looks like it has a coat of epoxy on it/buffed to a mirror shine.

I am well aware that worlds/level can be made with a certain amount of graphics, you essentailly wasted your energy typing that.

@Captainsony i guess i should have been more precise, than i was i am not talking about old series given remakes and being put on psn,live and wiiware or even virtual console.

Having bought the original rampage, castlevania sotn, bionic commando rearmed, the remake of 1942(too damn short) via psn. My brother in law might buy megaman 9, and i'll download it, not sure, too many games atm.

My primary point was if graphics were never important we would still be using the original 8 bit hardware for current full $49.99/$59.99 retail games not $5-20 downloadables, they call them classics for a reason :P, sorry if that confused you.

@Pcz so the ps3 and 360 have the same play style as every other console in the past. So where is the problem, if ps3/ps2 and 360 owners aren't raising hell about it? They appear to enjoy there games regardless of using a very old play style.

I don't mind in the slightest that the ps3/360, are getting bigger hard drives, more advanced processor/less heat=longer lifespan, and other cost cutting measures.

The wii doesn't have to worry about heat issues, the hardware doesn't run fast enough to need much cooling.

[Mahr]

Meh. HD is nice and everything, but in some cases I honestly prefer lower power, as it forces designers to adopt unorthodox art direction. This approach gave me Ocarina of Time during the N64 era and Okami last generation and some great examples this generation. I'd be more than a little disappointed if "art style" came to represent "getting every tiny pixel of every single surface as photorealistically rendered as possible" across the board.

[Sanzee]

I really was sick of all the fans whining to each other in Sony and Xbox posts, so I focused on posting Nintend-related news articles. But here kids are doing the same thing. I knew there would be some but damn!

Why don't you put that passion into something else? I mean hell, some of these are like half an essay! Thumbs up to people keeping it real. This article may or may not be true but it was solid, and valid. I'm pretty confident that Nintendo will go HD. It's a generation of HD. Of course they are still casual but they want to look good while doing so. HD isn't just for hardcore. It's the new standard.

[MajesticBeast]

HD wii music wow thats what your waiting for don't make me laugh please nintendo hasn't made 1 decent game in 3months only game i would buy a wii for is mad world which shouldve been a ps3 360 game im sorry but mini mario you go like ps4 is gonna have the same games this is nintendo casual crap casual crap mario mario mario more recycled old franchises casual crap wario fap it. Im sorry but nintendo is letting its fans down thats why i pirate the ds and wont buy a wii

[swinesucker]

well at least they are making it

but if they gimp stuff again I will not be buying it

sold my wii for full price after mario and never looked back

[Tyrael]

why not just say "we are a generation behind in the graphics department"

[Revvin]

It seems like a pointless excercise. The casual gamers the Wii appeals to don't really care for graphics. So the WiiHD will just play the same tired old Mario and Zelda games but in HD. Wii Sports was fun for a few hours then gets old - quickly. If Sony and Microsoft had launched their own motion controllers soon after the Wii launched they would have demolished Nintendo and its one trick pony - the Wii

[pcz]

.. does it really matter? no it doesn't. after all, ps3 and 360 fans are used to their systems being altered every 3 months.

we should be thankful nintendo don't have 8 different versions of the same console on the market. If it ever gets to that point with nintendo, i will gladly wash my hands of the video games industry (again.)

as far as i'm concerned, although ps3 and 360 have the most advanced technology, the approach to the games on the system is still two generations old. Resident evil 5 is really code veronica in a pretty dress.

wii is actually new. it might not be a good new, or a new you wanted but at least it tries to be different. not just ''oh, this time we have 27 million polygons on the screen at any given time in full hd at 60fps.'' it seems the old geek stereotypes that typified gaming in the 80s didn't disappear after all, they just bought ps3s and 360s.

[ChickeyCantor]

Even if the Wii was HD, it would still be bashed for Mario being rehashed and kiddie.

Since Nintendo forced Sony to go their own way they became the laughing stock to many narrow minded Gamers who started or ended up on a Sony system.

it seems like no matter what they do, its never good.
(2 generations going bad and these core gamers claim they were there for them, Wii being HD would have made no difference)

[Product]

you actually have a great point there PCZ i havent really put much thought into the mulit sku's situation.
Also good point was
"as far as i'm concerned, although ps3 and 360 have the most advanced technology, the approach to the games on the system is still two generations old. Resident evil 5 is really code veronica in a pretty dress. "
I couldnt agree more with you.......thats why im actually waiting for the graphics to hit the ceiling
before i even think about buying a Ps3(I really want GT5 huge racing buff)besides one game im waiting for more original content of games.
Honestly to me there are more fps then there have ever been and its boring me as much as Metal Gear Solid looks good i will never be more impressed then i was with the original psone version and thats the way i feel with alot of games this gen.

[ChickeyCantor]

I'm not sure how i feel about this.
While Wii is still selling great they already talk about Wii HD like if the Wii isn't here anymore.

I just hope that they make a great console without losing the retro vibe.
But yeah it was obviously that the Wii(NES) would eventually become HD(SNES).

Just hope they dont start talking about Wii HD 2 just 2 years after launche...

[Ju]

Hey, then they might call it Super-Wii or SWii ?

[ChickeyCantor]

To be honest, i seriously want them to call it a super Wii.
Its just nostalgic XD.

SWES

Super Wii entertainment System XD.

[Product]

Honestly i think alot of people are talking about it because of the sales its garnering
If the wii was in third place right now in sales i dont think rumored stories like this would be as highly looked upon by anyone but Nintendo fans.

Its funny how stories like this get more attention from people who dont own a wii then from people who do and if they own a wii the ones that dont play it.The usual suspects never comment on actual wii games.

[Gr81]

Exactly, the usual suspects who hate the Wii but are the first ones to post on Wii related news. Its incredible and never fails.

@Demon- As for the games you said that captured graphics and gameplay, I'd replace LBP with MP3 Corruption. Corruption was a masterpiece as far as I am concerned. LBP hasn't released yet, we'll see how that game turns out.

[tehReaper]

Some of you people disgust me. Automatically judging a console that hasn't even came out yet. Graphics don't mean everything, and the Wii has it's own appeal. Just because it doesn't have HD now, doesn't mean it won't rock in the future.

You're blinded by pretty colors, and ignoring gameplay. While it's nice to improve on graphics technology every generation, it limits the ambition of developers to tackle new gameplay elements. Worrying about how well your game looks does more bad than good.

Only two games this generation so far have captured both graphics and gameplay. Those two games are Super Mario Galaxy and LittleBigPlanet. They look amazing while also changing the way we look at platformers. These are the types of games we should be wanting every year, not the next best eye candy.

The first video game was two blocks. come on!

[Ju]

Well, Well. Its obvious that N will push the Wii into the HD generation at some point. What's all this arguing here. I mean, besides the fun factor. LOL.

I am just curious what it'll mean for the whole market. Can a HD Wii replicate its current success ? New gaming concept ? I doubt that. But N could surprise us again. I think it'll be the same Wii with some minor upgrades. I'm curious if they'll push the graphics above everything or just add HD (shouldn't too much of a hazel, like making the "Holywood" HD ready). Some adjustments to the motion controllers but that'll be it.

[JokerSGS]

On par with the PS3 and 360 in 2011? Wow way to stay behind the curve Nintendo. Honestly I don't blame them for putting out the system they did since their attempts at having the best and second best graphics last two gens didn't work out. They wanted to make money and did. I'm always a Nintendo fan but after already making so much money you would think they would have enough insurance now that they can put in the solid games we've come to love from them instead of shovelware.

[Naked-Snake]

HD will be last gen, Nintndo will always be retarted, I mean WTF 420P WTF.

[andron]

And it better come sooner than later. If it comes in 2010 they could really get a head start on Sony and MS next consoles...

[Da l33t Monkey]

Yeah sure.. and when the wii is finally suporting 720p HD.. The PS4 and Xbox720 will be able to pull of something twice better.

And probably suport motion controls to

[ChickeyCantor]

yeah but they won't since 720P/1080P will be the standard for the next 10 years=.

So whats your point?
and already bashing the system...jeeze you guys have lots of stamina.

[Gr81]

I don't need to talk anymore sense to your nonsensical post (Sidar already did) but another reason not to take your post seriously is 55m Wii's by 2011, it'll hit 50m by March 09. PS3 might not hit 50 ever. PS2 had nothing worth spending the price for it until well into its 2nd yr. Cut the crap about PS2 & PS3 tracking similarly, they aren't.

[Captain_Sony]

No the PS3 isnt tracking anywhere near where PS2 was in the same time framr and that has already been proven time and time again. Some of us have no problem seeing or admitting that the PS3 will never reach the same status the PS2 did. It's just a very vocal few of us that cannot accept and thus make the rest of us PS3 owners look like complete idiots.

[Mini Mario]

Yeh especially that idiot (hes actually ignored me lol). But hey u will find its the same for some nintendo fans too. The best way for me to get the best games is to own all the systems!

That way u get the best of all three worlds. Seems to be the best way, unless ur a kid and cant afford to, then i understand ur pain.

[-Neon-]

The Dreamcast 2 will eat the WiiHD for breakfast and still have room for brunch.... ;)

[fatstarr]

lol nintendo is soo fcking smart
sell 30 mill regular wiis
then sell 7 mill hd wiis for the hard core graphics hoars to make more money then come out with the next console for the ds and wii by using the veils of dsi and wii hd lol it could happen sony and microsoft should learn from them

[N4g_null]

LOL I know right. At the end of the day gamers don't care about blue ray and they don't want to pay to play online.

There are a lot of people here claiming nintendo can not catch up...LOL They currently are making the most money right now and growing the market the only people they are fighting are fanboys that are divided among two systems. It's really a non-contest nintendo wins. They could choose to match the HD systems but really like I said before the HD console don't even match an 8800 tech wise. The Wii could have one of these and totally crush the HD guys.

A lot of gamers are failing to see that nintendo has rebuilt their brand with the same values yet with a better plan this time. Lots of people are happy while the HD fanboys drool over what could have came out on PCs during the launch of HL2. The graphics you guys praise is old news and is not hard to eclipse. Nintendo just didn't believe you guys(HD hardcore fanboys) where really serious about gaming that's all. So they went on and made a real console. Technically the Wii is the only console on the market the other console and media hubs for some thing else.

It's no wonder they are loosing. You have old media fetish guys praising it for blue ray or frat guys because of halo. None of that stuff is respected in a true circle of hardcore FPS gamers they are all gimmicks.

Yet the Wii HD is probably the code name for the next console though. What would be even smarter is if they find away to add AA to the old games and pixel perfect VC games.

The HD guys will not get such a grand update if this does happens because they may actually be using the same GPUs tech wise that the other console makers will be using LOL.

[Josh1billion]

Late 2011 is very close to the end of the current console generation's lifespan.

[ReBurn]

I wonder if it will play DVD's?

[TapiocaMilkTea]

This news might as well be rumor even if it's official, who knows what the future holds, they can always change their plans, 2011 is a bit too far ahead of us.

[she00win99]

if this is true then this means that nintendo will be third place again in the console war...

[Mini Mario]

"if this is true then this means that nintendo will be third place again in the console war..."

But really....who cares>>> Right>? u got ur system of choice...games are made for it......whats the prob>?

[rjguess]

I'm not paying for a HD wii in 2011 b/c by than ps3 and 360 will have better tech. than nintendo. This wii wii probably be the same thing we have now but with HD thats all. By 2011 the life of wii might be done with. ps3 may still be going on and maybe the xbox. If nintendo does this they need to also beef up the ram,cpu,and everything else along with the HD. I'm glad I got a ps3 along with my wii.

[Firebird360]

I think its going to be the same specs power wise but with a hdd and high def

[ionisdialos]

Nintendo has already lost lifelong fans (myself)
with wii in the first place
casual is a trend

sad i will have to miss out on zelda games from now on
but ps3 is the best system iv ever owned

im sticking with sony til ps4 til ps5

[Mini Mario]

Yep things sure have changed for nintendo......

http://www.gamersgraveyard....

http://img154.imageshack.us...

http://www.nintendowiifanbo...

..................yeh.....cha nged :-S :-S :-S ??????? Where do u get ur "facts"...because whereever they come from...i would stop listening to them

[SR388]

hopfully it wont be called the Wii HD lol soon as they bump up the visuals it will again kick the crap outa gaystation4 and sh!tbox720 lol

[xxReaper47xx]

Xbox and playstation will still have better games.Look at the game libary for xbox and Ps3 they destroy the Wiis in every possible way.

[Mini Mario]

Well im hoping for 'Super Wii', (following from snes..coz to me the wii is like the nes...u know testing the waters a bit)

But i will still buy all consoles that come out, its good to get a nice even spread, .....they all have their ups n downs (no matter how many times ppl will argue that their system is the best)

Reaper -
"Xbox and playstation will still have better games.Look at the game libary for xbox and Ps3 they destroy the Wiis in every possible way."

^not a good attitude...why would u care how well a system u dont own does? As long as ur happy with what u got right......

How can things like that bother ppl so much (boggles the mind :-S)

[oriol003]

By the time the "Wii HD" launches it will have fallen one Generation behind once again.