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Xbox Wants Diversity in its Games Lineup; It's Good for Gears of War and Halo Developers to Be Quiet

Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg talks about the importance of having a diverse lineup of games, and how it's nice for 343 Industries and The Coalition to be a bit quiet.

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Nyxus2861d ago

All nice words, now they need to be put into action.

Abriael2861d ago

Well, IMHO they are. They've been trying to add more diversity in their line up, they got a MMORPG from Korea, lots of stuff from smaller European countries, quite a bit of Japanese games.

Of course, they still have less than Sony (I believe they have more diversity than Nintendo, tho) , but Rome wasn't built in a day and you gotta start somewhere. It's already good that they recognized that they needed work on that.

Of course, they need to continue and not make it a one shot like the Japanese push at the beginning of the 360 era, but it's a step.

Nyxus2861d ago

Personally I need to see it before I believe it, because we've been hearing promises since the reveal of the Xbox One, and in my opinion the system far from delivered so far.

PapaBop2861d ago

To be fair, Black Desert is a BIG catch. It might not be the most appealing game in the world to most people but those who get it, will absolutely love it.

butchertroll2861d ago (Edited 2861d ago )

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but Rome wasn't built in a day and you gotta start somewhere. It's already good that they recognized that they needed work on that.

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Sure. And after 4 years where are the results? What the hell Phil's Japan trip brought to Xbone? Nothing!

81BX2861d ago

Agreed. From The beginning of this gen to know we have seen a wider variety and more support for indies

SilverDemon2861d ago

4 years and we still dont have a single first party RPG which is a huge genre
I remember a time when xbox offered RPGs(fable), JRPGs(lost odyssey) hack n slash(too human) horror (alan awake

now those genres are a bi hole in xbox exclusive line-up for the entire generation (if you are not a fan of shooters or racers ,like me, xbox doesnt offer you anything else)

InTheLab2861d ago

"Rome wasn't built in a day"

They've had 17 years though....

I'd like to see something new but I doubt it. Nearing 6 straight years of relying on Forza, halo, gears. I don't see that changing anytime soon...

TheColbertinator2861d ago

@Abriael

MS isn't building Rome though.

More like Atlantis or Pompeii,caked in ashes or sunk in the sea.

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freshslicepizza2861d ago (Edited 2861d ago )

They have diversity, Halo Wars 2, Cuphead, Ori and the Blind Forest 2, State of Decay 2, Forza 7, Luckeys Tale 2, Sea of Thieves. They just need a lot more output.

Bobafret2861d ago

One of which appeals to me personally. They need more story driven single player, period.

kneon2861d ago

Their diversity is improving, but their marketing isn't. They need to stop focusing their marketing on the dudebro demographic if they are to grow their market position.

gamer78042861d ago

Fable fortune and path of exile the latter just came out. Both 4k on xbx

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Relientk772861d ago

Or 343 Industries and The Coalition could make brand new IPs and give Halo and Gears a rest.

Just a thought...

UCForce2861d ago

Unless Microsoft allow them to do it.

Abriael2861d ago (Edited 2861d ago )

They just purchased the Gears franchise, so giving it a rest after one game doesn't seem very realistic, to be honest.

Chevalier2861d ago

Couldn't they continue then other new IP they had and do a short expansion like how Uncharted just released one? Just a thought.

slate912861d ago

I think that is what they are doing to be fair. Didn't hear from them at e3 2017 or gamescom. Expect new IPs from those two to be brought into the spotlight e3 2018. (I hope anyways).

81BX2861d ago

I was impressed by the games ms showed at e3. Especially since it wasn't gears or halo

gamer78042861d ago

No, just build or acquire studios

DaNineTwo2861d ago (Edited 2861d ago )

You're right. Shoot, it worked for Guerrilla.

PhoenixUp2860d ago

Their entire existence is to create more games in the series their studio' name is based on

You hardly even see Sonic Team developing non Sonic games nowadays like they used to in the past

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yeahright22861d ago

Do they?
I mean I see them trying with recore, quantum break and such, but the second they don't pull in halo or gears numbers they seemingly kill them off rather than try to build something out of them.

xX-oldboy-Xx2861d ago

you're absolutely right, not every game will be a mega hit. Take the good with the bad.

Automatic792861d ago

Recore is getting a definitive edition, Ori got a sequel. I think it's a combination of new and old games.

rainslacker2861d ago

It's not even so much that they have to push these new franchises to the extreme. I mean, at this point, even if QB did exceptionally well, they wouldn't need to jump on a sequel right away.

To me, it seems they just need to take more risks, and not focus so heavily on one or two really big new things, but spread it out a bit more. have the big well-established franchise rotate in and out, give the Forza if they want, offer up something new in the AAA front(maybe not every year, but with an increased frequency). Offer up more mid-tier or compelling indie titles, and don't use them as a crux to fill in the lack of actual AAA-AA games.

Right now, their entire exclusive line up consists of Forza, a AA game in DR2, a couple mid-tiers, and a ton of indies which are mostly timed exclusives.

Just filling out the year a bit more, and providing a nice steady stream of content which appeals to a wider base would do wonders for their brand appeal. Not everything they make has to appeal to everyone, but at least try to cater to as many people as possible, and give that stuff that isn't as much in the mainstream more attention so people know it exists....which they are doing better with now, but I think that's only because they don't have something really big to hype up.

EatCrow2861d ago (Edited 2861d ago )

They dont kill them off. Gamers do. Simply because they dont score as good or sell as much as the ones you mentioned.

Ori is getting one. There you go.

yeahright22860d ago

An indie game and a rerelease? Not exactly big risk taking now is it? No, I'm talking building a franchise to a level where it becomes the next gears or halo. I'm talking quantum break 2, sunset overdrive 2, and recore 2.
Let me put it this way, the original xbox brought you halo. the 360 brought you gears. throughout the Xbox's and 360's lives they built up forza. What has the xbox 1 brought you on that level?
"stay the course Phil, whatever you do is great and I'll defend it." that mentality won't help xbox.

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cfc832861d ago

I guess they have diversity. Just not enough 1st party diversity.

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Square Enix is “aware” of Final Fantasy XIV player numbers dropping

Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu discusses the dropping player count of Final Fantasy XIV and the numerous projects of YoshiP.

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jznrpg5h ago

It’s really old now. All great MMOs decline.

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Dune: Awakening Composer Talks Giving Arrakis a Voice

Game Rant interviews Dune: Awakening composer Knut Avenstroup Haugen about his process for giving the harsh deserts of Arrakis a musical voice.

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It Shouldn't Take Expedition 33's Success to Remind Square Enix That Turn-Based Still Sells

TNS: Expedition 33 was the wake-up call Square Enix needed, telling it turn-based RPGs are still popular, but that shouldn't have been the case.

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Relientk772d ago

True, but if it does get it through their thick skulls, then that works.

Although, the Dragon Quest 1 + 2 HD remakes will be turn-based and (the worst kept secret) Final Fantasy IX remake should be turn-based I would imagine. Let's see if any newer games go turn-based too.

thorstein2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

DQIII HD Remake was turned based and very successful. Then there was a really obscure turn based game came Balder's Gate 3. I heard it might have done well.

Profchaos2d ago

I wouldn't be shocked if they switched ff to the vii remake combat system

PapaBop1d 20h ago

It won't get through to them though, despite E33's success, they still won't risk going fully turn based for their big budget projects simply because they are still in the mindset that it needs to be action combat to appeal to the mainstream audience. I hope I'm wrong but don't underestimate just how stubborn Japanese execs can be

barom1d 13h ago

Ya'll are hyping up Expedition 33 too much. Reminder that FF XVI sold 3 million in a week and it took Expedition 33 approximately a month to get to that (33 days to reach 3.3 million).

thorstein1d 9h ago

New IP vs established IP.

barom1d 1h ago

1 platform vs 3 platforms
1 week vs 1 month

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DivineHand1252d ago

While it is true that Sqaure Enix has moved away from turn based games compared to how they were in the past, there is a good reason for it.

Older gamers will know this but during the ps2 era, we were flooded with turned based games from Japanese studios and this created a form of fatigue back then going into the next generation.

When Square released FF13, they received heavy criticism for making the game turned based like every other FF game and not doing enough to innovate. This is why they made FF15, FF7 Remake and FF16 have real time combat. It gave the series a fresh spin and has brought in new fans to the series.

I personally would be happy with either turned based FF or the real-time combat version we see today.

Shane Kim2d ago

Remake and Rebirth have "turn based" if you set it in the settings.

Lexreborn22d ago

Dang wish I saw your post before I made mine because we definitely feel the same way lol

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yeah hit the nail on the head but its like ww2 games we get hundreds of them then a decade of nothing and people start missing them i think we're going to start seeing them return

Claire, dragon quest even yakuza have seen turn based return

Runechaz1d 7h ago

Every Pokémon game is also a Turn Base RPG.. and selling millions

andy852d ago

Only need to look at their own game DQ 11 approaching 10 million to show there's a market. And that's not as big of a name as FF

Runechaz1d 7h ago

you can also look at the Pokemon game number

Tacoboto2d ago

Another article about Expedition 33 and Square Enix and turn-based games? This is starting to sound like propaganda.

The game didn't sell because it's a turn-based game; it sold and is enjoyed because it's a really freaking good game that released completed at a good price without gamer drama attached to it. No Mtx, no wait-until-it's-patched, minimal bloat, a self-contained story, no multiplatform BS. Just a solid original game that absolutely nails what it intended to do.

Redemption-642d ago

I was just about to say the same thing.

anast2d ago

This comment should have a 100 upvotes, at least.

CrimsonWing692d ago

Maybe try actually listening to the fans who have supported the series for decades. This habit of ignoring your core audience just to chase people who were never interested in Final Fantasy in the first place makes no sense. And when that approach fails, doubling down on it is beyond baffling.

The battle system has never been the main reason non-FF or non-JRPG players stayed away. Gutting the series’ identity to chase a broader market doesn’t attract new players. It just alienates the loyal ones.

Keep going down this road and we’ll end up with Final Fantasy Fortnite abomination or a F2P Battle Royale game.. Oh wait…

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