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Crackdown 3 Delay Won't Impact Xbox One X Launch Sales, Doesn't Make Any Material Difference:Pachter

It's looking to be a rather dismal year for Microsoft which started out with Scalebound being cancelled, a number of exclusives launching in 2018 and Crackdown 3 dated for November but recently pushed to Spring 2018.

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SpaceRanger2871d ago

Everything Pachter states has almost always been the opposite. Doesnt look good for the xbox one x launch.

I can already hear MS at next year's E3:
"We've delivered Xbox One X, and have the most diverse starting lineup since the start of this year..."

(Totally neglecting the fact that they're all delayed game that were used to make the same statement the year before) yet people eat it up and accept it.

gameseveryday2871d ago

To be honest, Pachter has a point. Not many people will buy an Xbox One X just for Crackdown 3. They woudld rather buy it for Microsof's huge IPs like Gears and Forza. So I am pretty sure its delay wont affect Xbox One X sales but it sure did hurt Microsoft's line-up for this year.

Ashlen2871d ago

It's not helping them that's for sure.

It's not just about people not buying it because It's not launching with Crackdown 3 it's about consumers losing trust in Microsoft due to all the bad press they have created for themselves this year including the delay of Crackdown.

Bigpappy2870d ago

Why should a company release a game that they have shown to the public and received 90% negative feedback on? IS it better to release horrible games that nobody wants, or send them back to the developer and tell them to fix all the issues that are being complained about? I don't get why people are saying this delay is bad? How many of these carnival barkers were ready to buy CD3 in it's current state?

stuna12870d ago

What lineup!? Microsoft lineup this year has been abysmal! Anyone saying otherwise has been living in a dream world like Neo in the matrix.

Here's a thought, everyone should have taken the blue pill.

DARK_WOLF2870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

Its been a pretty crap year for exclusive games on xbox but at least we get the new xbox one x. And the 3rd party lineup of games is stellar this year imo and we getting forza 7.

Hopefully we get some good exclusives next year.

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bluefox7552870d ago

Gears or Halo perhaps, but Forza really isn't a huge seller. At least not this gen.

nix2870d ago

Delaystation.

Wait, wrong thread.

ZeroX98762870d ago

@nix

A delay is fine, just make sure you got other exclusives to support it.

AAWELLS092870d ago

I cant remember when I bought my Pro if there was a launch game or not. It wouldn't have mattered as I didn't have the extra cash after purchasing it get anything additional anyhow. I really doubt very many were getting the X for C3. I know I'm not planning on getting the game as its not my kind of game.

UnHoly_One2869d ago

I was planning to get an X1X, and I was planning to get Crackdown 3, but in no way were those things dependent on one another.

I never even thought about it like that until I kept seeing articles calling it a "launch title".

That confuses me. It's just another Xbox One game, it will work on all Xbox One consoles.

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Obscure_Observer2871d ago

@SpaceRanger

Why Crackdown´s delay would have a negative impact on XBox One X,? Many people here are saying that game is horrible, looks like an old Xbox 360 game and would flop hard on sales.

Then the game get delayed for polishing and then all of sudden is the worst thing that could have happen to Xbox One X?

God, no matter what, MS can´t win.

uptownsoul2870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

To be fair the exact same thing happened with Uncharted 4. Many people made fun of the Nathan Drake glitching through the world (I believe at PSX 2014) & then when the delay was announced people claimed Naughty Dog was in trouble

hamburgerhill2870d ago

Very true uptownsoul but the hate for cd3 has been going on for years even before the delay.

bluefox7552870d ago

It did look horrible, that doesn't change the fact that it was a late year, major release.

AAWELLS092870d ago

It's just fanboy stuff man. Gotta overlook those people. This is for people that like the "console war" stuff.

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The_Eternal_one2870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

It's funny because these games were introduced before Xbox one X was even a thing. So he kinda is right.

KillBill2870d ago

True that except for when he states things that a child could see from a mile away. Which in this case we knew the XB1X wasn't relying on any individual games to sell it.

ocelot072870d ago

@UraDecepticon Didn't Sony say not to long back that 1 out of 5 PS4 consoles sold is a Pro. So it's selling just not as good as the PS4 Slim. Same thing will happen for the XOX. People will buy obviously but it won't sell more than the XB1s per month. At least that is what am thinking anyhow.

rainslacker2869d ago

More like 1/4 of what he says is obvious, 1/2 is stupid, and the other 1/4 is irrelevant.

In this case, I actually believe hes right, because I never believed CD3 was that much of a system seller to begin with, and I think the excitement for it is really not as high as wondering these forums would make it seem.

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Relientk772871d ago

Xbox game lineup looking rather empty

chrisx2871d ago

Empty indeed. I'm waiting for the defenders of the bone to see how they spin this one

Relientk772871d ago (Edited 2871d ago )

I'd like to hear Microsoft's PR spin as well lol

More spins than Sonic the Hedgehog

LexHazard792870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

The president and Ceo of spinners..lol

ThinkThink2870d ago

No spin. Game needs more time to make it better. Let's give them that time. If it ends up being crap when it comes out, then pile on and attack like you guys do so well. Win/Win for you Chris! :)

morganfell2870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

@Relientk77,

https://www.theverge.com/20...

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/r...

“The Xbox One X launch lineup will be one of the greatest lineups of games ever available with a major new console release,” Loftis said. “Not only are there several new Xbox exclusives such as Forza Motorsport 7, Cuphead, Super Lucky’s Tale, and the console launch exclusive PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, there is an incredible list of titles coming this holiday including Middle-earth: Shadow of War, Assassin’s Creed Origins, Call of Duty: WWII, Star Wars Battlefront II, Destiny 2, and more — with many of these titles enhanced to play better on Xbox One X. With so many great exclusives and new games to play, Crackdown 3 would have shipped into an incredibly crowded market."

Holy crap, look at what he said again,

"The Xbox One X launch lineup will be one of the greatest lineups of games ever available with a major new console release,” Loftis said."

They are spinning so much I'm dizzy.

81BX2870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

Spin What? Pre ordering xb1x day 1!

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-Foxtrot2870d ago

Push it to next year so next E3 Phil can say something about how they've been delivering great variety in games since the start of the year.

Kryptix2870d ago (Edited 2870d ago )

They delayed it so they can attach a Halo 6 beta invite to the game. Only way the game can generate decent sales. LOL

All jokes aside, the delay was well needed, but I still highly doubt it will better the Xbox One's overall appeal. Right now, the Q4 lineup for new games is looking even more barebones for the console. The fact that they delayed the game when Phil Spencer preaches about not trying to announce games too early just tells that we were all correct, the game does look like trash. Yet, the Xbox fanboys didn't want to acknowledge it and here we are, the game comes out Q2 of next year now. It's good because like we say, delays just means a better game, but if you're going to yell out, "DelayStation 4 huhuhuhu" when the PS4 has also provided more first party IPs throughout the years, you don't know what you're talking about. Look at your owners over there at the Xbox division before you speak.

Oh yea, Patcher is correct, it won't make a difference due to this quote which I can agree on, “I don’t think Xbox One X sales are going to be very high in the first place because of price, and don’t think a six to eight month delay for Crackdown makes any material difference." A lot of people here didn't even read the article and straight up jumped towards, "finally Patcher is making sense, the Xbox One X will do fine," but failed to read that he meant to say, it won't make any difference, the sales won't be high anyway. Most likely knows only very dedicated Xbox fanboys will buy the console and they've been ok playing the waiting game for so long that this delay means nothing to them.

goken2870d ago

look at it this way... nexr years xbo line up will be much much much better compared to the last couple of years (although it still looks pretty pale next to Nintendo n Sony's exclusive line up)

while it might prove to be difficult to improve crackdown 3 much with just a few additional months, they should try what they can. the game looks like it could be fun, hope it gets a good chance to do well.

Good-Smurf2870d ago

Most of their games ended up either on PC or Steam basically no incentive to buy Xbox whatsoever.
The only game I interested in was Cuphead and my dad's laptop can run it.

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ninsigma2871d ago

I agree. Crackdown 3 was of little importance really. It's never been a big franchise and was never going to sell particularly well.

corroios2871d ago

It was gonna launch on the same day or im i wrong? trying to downplay another huge blunder from Microsoft. Well they got Forza....

FallenAngel19842870d ago

I didn't even see Crackdown 3 being a system seller in the first place. This franchise was never that huge.

Not to mention that not even Gears of War 4 managed to dramatically increase Xbox One sales

ThinkThink2870d ago

Crackdown 3 isn't a system seller. It's always been a niche game.

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Sony is all-in on PlayStation Plus, says its most expensive tier is thriving

Sony kicks off PS Plus' 15th anniversary by chatting with Game File about the past, present and future of its gaming subscription service: Talking price, catalogue tweaks and where the PS3 games are.

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CrimsonWing692d ago

Glad, I’m about to downgrade when they raise the price. For me, I don’t really access much or care about the games they have in the library and if I do, it’d be cheaper to just buy them over time rather than stick to some expensive subscription model.

crazyCoconuts1d 23h ago

When you're new to the service you've got an avalanche of games to play. After you catch up, I agree, it's not worth it beyond the Essential tier for me.
That being said, the Essential tier is the best deal in console gaming imo, based on the monthly games you get to keep.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Yeah same will be downgrading $214 aud is insane and we don't even get the streaming capabilities in Australia which they said would make the top level subscription cheaper.

If i was to just buy the games I actually play that come to the service id be far better off.

Ill keep the essential tier to retain the games ive collected since the ps3 and for mp but I'm not convinced of the premium tiers value any more

victorMaje1d 14h ago

Went back to essential a few months ago. I’m buying more physical and it has helped in finishing more games.

Profchaos1d 4h ago

Tend to agree if i go to the trouble of buying a disc ill typically finish it

Alos882d ago

Extra is probably the best value for money right now, Premium doesn't have anything special enough to justify paying the additional imo.

OtterX1d 23h ago

*unless you have a Portal & you catch Premium on discount during Days of Play or Black Friday.

Yea, I really do wish they'd up their effort on Premium titles, but allowing a large catalog of titles that can stream to your Portal without even having to use your PS5 is pretty awesome. We travel about 2 hours to stay with my inlaws from time to time, so it's been pretty killer to only need to take my Portal for that!

andy851d 23h ago

Yup if you have a portal premium is the best tier for sure

KyRo1d 7h ago

Extra has been getting worse and worse each month. I've had it since it's launch and it's been great to play some games I may not have played but the selection has been declining rapidly for a while now. My sub runs out in August and I'll be going back to essential. They actually add games to that which are more appealing.

jznrpg2d ago

Add some more classics with trophies. Vagrant Story first

OtterX1d 23h ago

Nice choice. I agree!

Jeanne D'Arc was my favorite PS+ catalog title from last year & I Platinumed it!

Eonjay1d 21h ago

I like Ridge Racer, Tekken and Grandia. Add Xenogears, digimon World 3, Classic GTA and ill be happy

jznrpg1d 19h ago

Jeanne D’Arc was great!

@Eonjay there is a Grandia collection available for PS4, I’m not sure if it’s been on plus already or not

darthv722d ago

cloud streaming to the portal, without using the ps5, is the selling point of premium to me.

Obscure_Observer1d 23h ago

If the consumers are happy, Sony is even happier.

It is what it is.

Eonjay1d 21h ago

I tend to agree with you.

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Hitoshi Sakimoto Celebrates 40 Years Of Game Composing With A Streaming Collection

The legendary composer celebrates forty years of game composing with a new collection.

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Yoshida claims PS believes Xbox is their only competitor, truth is they don’t have one any more

Former PlayStation boss Shuhei Yoshida claims PlayStation still believes Xbox is their only true competitor, not Nintendo.

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Terry_B8d ago

True, they have pretty different audiences..and some People just have both at home or a PS and a PC that emulates more or less everything from Nintendo.

Knightofelemia8d ago

Xbox hasn't been a competitor since the XB360. Last generation and this generation Sony has been running circles around Xbox. As for Sony vs Nintendo Sony runs circles yes but I don't really see Nintendo as competition. Nintendo does their own thing and it works.

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Lightning777d ago

Details are important. Console sales yes. Overall games Xbox seems to be doing fairly well in that department.

LoveSpuds7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

MS were doing so well that they had to start selling their games on their main competitors system which in turn results in around 30% of each sale going to Sony as the platform holder.

I do think tjat MS' fortunes will improve now that they are actually selling games rather than giving them away for pennies on the dollar.

Something that occurs to me is that the more success MS published games have elsewhere, the more stark it will become that selling games is much more profitable than renting them. If that becomes highly noticable, I wonder what the shareholders (who ultimately run the show) will make of a service which has stagnated for years?

crazyCoconuts7d ago

PlayStation doesn't compete with third party games, they compete on consoles. They profit from third party games. If you're not comparing consoles there's no point in comparing.

drivxr7d ago

Console wars are over.

Eventually, everyone else will catch up to this fact.

attilayavuzer7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I think it's all PS fans have left at this point. Console wars were always a competition for fourth place behind Nintendo, PC and mobile. If Xbox evaporates into a hybrid virtual platform, then PS will be perennially left in last place.

Christopher7d ago

Strange, I recall all those FCC documents and witness testimonies saying the exact opposite... Guess Microsoft doesn't know what it's talking about?

PanicMechanic7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Great analysis. Just joking.

Pretending like companies give a f about where they “rank” against each other is just super retarded. This isn’t the World Cup.

Tell me, how does “PC” compete against a brand like PlayStation? It just doesn’t make sense at all. What you just said, is complete and utter nonsense

BlaqMagiq17d ago

I don't think PS cares about being in this so-called "last place" you came up with when they're making profits hand over fist.

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Destiny10807d ago

microsoft wanted to crush sony into dust and they had the money to do it, but with such weak leadership it was always going to fail

Reaper22_7d ago

Had the money? They still have the money but the industry has changed since xbox 360. Microsoft is the number one publisher in gaming. I'd hardly call that failing.

IRetrouk7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

The industry hasn't changed though, just ms, Microsoft was the no1 publisher for a month in december 2024, the actual no1 for fy2024 was tencent if game sales are all that's being counted.

Profchaos7d ago

Money doesn't mean you'll be successful large corporations have entered and failed before like Nec

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