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With the raw power of Xbox One X, Microsoft has a shot at getting back on top

It might be hard to imagine now, given how the last few years have gone, but once upon a time the Xbox was thought of as the powerhouse console. Though Microsoft didn't always have quite the same robust library PlayStation was able to offer, especially in the era of the original Xbox and the PS2, what it did have was a small but significant technological edge. With the Xbox One X, Microsoft aims to get back to its king-of-the-tech-hill status, and it's a distinction that the brand needs badly right now. 
That edge in power was sanded down during the current generation, when there's been rampant talk about how much of the Xbox One's power was diverted to Kinect, how many cross platform games ran and looked better on PS4, how 900p was more common on Xbox One than proper 1080p (the gold standard when these consoles launched). Piled atop all the abuse around how the Xbox One was lagging behind in terms of power were the even worse offenses early on, with consumers being told that the console would need to always be connected to the internet and loose talk about how it wouldn't be able to play used games. Microsoft further crippled their launch by trying to focus attention on the Xbox One as a "media center, family room" console rather than as a platform to play the best new games.

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Obscure_Observer2883d ago

Not gonna happen. Xbox One X has a chance to spark some fire and maybe outsell the PS4 Pro. But that´s it!

The PS4 continue to deliver great first party exclusives, a more diversed line up of games and has more of an global appeal among gamers.

PS4 should remain on top to the end of this generation.

Lonnie182883d ago

Nah Xbox has no change of climbing to the top lol. Adoption rate of the X1 will be limited!

Kingthrash3602882d ago

With games not performing as MS promised/boasted/suggested/hin ted/predicted or whatever you want to call the marketing strategy ms used...I don't see it selling well. The switch has a better chance of selling more...I wouldn't be surprised if it out sells the xbox 1 within 2 years and it has the least power of all. Smh they once again fumbled a system at launch. And with no new AAA ips announced in 2 years and the console exclusives they have now are looking dissappointing. It's a wrap.

JaguarEvolved2881d ago

With the raw power of gtx 1080ti, PC has a shot at getting back on top. /s

What silly thinking

FinalFantasyFanatic2881d ago

Yep, it'll sell similar to the PS4 Pro at best.

pinkcrocodile752881d ago

LOL Maybe, Maybe not.

Guys, especially teens to early 30's have an annoying knack of stating their opinion as fact.

@King is a prime example. "Smh they once again fumbled a system launch".

As you can see he is stating MS XOX release (in the future) has failed. He doesn't know that, He just thinks it might be.

So @KingThrash360's opinion is just that.

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Eonjay2882d ago

Just logistically speaking, it Sits somewhere between improbable and impossible. Like where are 30 million consoles gonna come from?

Eonjay2882d ago (Edited 2882d ago )

PS: watch out for the dude with 100 accounts downvoting everyone! He added like 20 downvotes to everyone in the last 3 minutes lol.

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Eonjay2881d ago

@Genkins

The downvoting thing is obvious. Secondly, this is an open forum, you don't have to own a PS4 to comment on it... or a Switch or an Xbox. Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong. And most of us here have thick enough skin to read a dissenting comment. There are no safe spaces here.

JasonKCK2881d ago

"The downvoting thing is obvious"

So is the upvoting.

GamingIVfun2881d ago

Starting off, this is a gaming website, people can comment anywhere they want. I am tired of of Xbox fanboys trying to police where people can comment on this site because they don't like whats being said. Stop being whinny little brats. I have an Xbox One S but even if you don't , it doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on something. There are plenty of Xbox people commenting on PS4 and Sony articles, but I don't see people whining about it.

Next, there is no way that Xbox One X is going to put Xbox on top this gen, just not going to happen, they maybe have a couple of years before the next gen starts, does anyone think that Xbox One X is going to sell 40 million units in that time, does anyone think that the PS4 is going to just stop selling when Xbox One X is released. You Xbox Fanboys have no common sense at all when it comes to your beloved brand.

Xenophon_York2881d ago

"...dude with 100 accounts downvoting...." I honestly would not be surprised if Microsoft is putting some serious effort into exposure and falsified public opinion (like upvotes/downvotes) this close to release. Kind of like how almost every rating on some online shopping sites is four stars. Would rather think that than some "dude" is that big of a fan of XBOX to create one hundred accounts for voting on N4G.

Liqu1d2881d ago

@Xenophon_York There's definitely Xbox "fans" that make hundreds of accounts. You may have seen them spamming their list of N4G users who upset them.

OoglyBoogly2881d ago

*Whew*...I was wondering what the Hell was going on with the down votes. Made no sense as, love it or hate it, some of the comments are spot on but have a ton of down votes.

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Shadowsteal2882d ago (Edited 2882d ago )

It won't outsell the Pro. The pro is $100, (potentially $150) cheaper than the 1X. And is the only place to play enhanced Spider-man, God of War, Days Gone, Last of Us 2, Death Stranding, Detroit: Become Human, Gran Turismo Sport, and so on.

BiggerBoss2881d ago

I don't see why you got downvoted, what does the One X have that competes with those? Crackdown?

BLizardXD2881d ago

I think Death Stranding will be a ps5 game. no gameplay was even shown this year.

Critic4l_Strik32881d ago

@BiggerBoss

Don't forget Th3 Cl0ud!!!!!

Critic4l_Strik32881d ago

@BLizardXD

Year isnt over yet. Theres GamesCom, Tokyo Game Show and PSX. We can still have a chance to see something

steveo1234562881d ago

I think it might outsell the pro. a lot of og ps4 users aren't upgrading sue to the smaller difference in power. Xbox uses may well feel more inclined as og xbox was the weakest at launch.

Also with xmas coming, 99% of joe public newcomers will simply want the most powerful box to play fifa/cod on and wont care for console exclusives. How many of the above games will even be released by xmas?

willnulife2880d ago

Kind of a bleak outlook. The Pro isn't selling that well.

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RadicalCannibal2881d ago

Xbox X is great, PS4 is great, Switch is great. All this chat in these forms doesn't change a thing. It's what writers call drama, all that hot air that doesn't affect anything, the outcome always the same. Read this and feel awe that you are in the presence of greatness.

thisismyaccount2881d ago

MS barely sold 100K units last month June (NPD USA is always a month late) vs. the 300K? or close to of PS4. People are already holding out, on buying the XB1 Slim for the X instead ... only going to get worse. Happened to Sony with the imminent launch of the PS4Pro, MS will face the same problem.

steveo1234562881d ago

i agree. I think xbox sales will get a hell of a boost, the main reason behind that is I think the amount of people who upgrade from xbone to 1x will be a lot higher than ps4>pro. But overall I cant see it overtaking

I wonder what ps4 pro sales are actually like, not seen any numbers

Liqu1d2881d ago

1 in 5 PS4s sold are a Pro. Are you wondering what Xbox sales are like? MS have said nothing about Xbox sales.

http://www.playstationlifes...

steveo1234562881d ago

@ liqu1d, 1 in 5 hey? In a years time do you think xbox sales will be 1 in 5 x1x's? I've got a feeling it will be higher, but what do I know

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_LarZen_2883d ago

Back on top? The chance for that is slim to none. But I think they can lay a good foundation for the "next-gen" Xbox with the Xbox One X, Xbox One S and the services and features Xbox have.

Genuine-User2882d ago (Edited 2882d ago )

My question is, when was the Xbox brand ever on top?

1. The story should have been submitted as an opinion piece
2. The opinion piece doesn't state how Microsoft will or should reach that top spot

In my opinion, there's not a chance in the world as far as sales are concerned. As for raw power, we already know it'll undoubtedly be the most powerful console for at least 2 years.

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nitus102881d ago

@ricosuave

Since when did the Wii win the console war?

Yes the Wii sold more than the PS3 and the XBox360 (although not combined) but you also have to remember that the Wii was standard definition only while the PS3 and the XBox360 could output 720p with some games 1080p. Basically, the Wii was in the PS2 and original XBox category (ie. none HD) and we all know which console sold the most out of them.

BTW. High Definition TV's were slowly being adopted from the late 1990's but were initially expensive however by the time the XBox360 launched ( 22 November 2005) HD adoption was increasing rapidly and this is why Microsoft and Sony decided to make a console that could support the HD format. Only Nintendo held off and it was not until the Wii U was released (November/December 2012 - almost six years later) that Nintendo produced a console capable of High Definition.

steveo1234562881d ago

I agree. I bought the original xbox and had a choice between that or the more established ps2. I based my choice on the available power and wasn't disappointed. Sure I missed out on some exclusives, but didn't bother me at the time.

I'm sure a lot of people will think the same way today

people may say sony won that round of 'the war', but I'm glad I made the choice I did for the reasons I used. At the end of the day choice is a good thing.

yeahright22881d ago

@nitrus

"Since when did the Wii win the console war?

Yes the Wii sold more than the PS3 and the XBox360 "
you asked and answered your own question.

Funny you're disqualifying wii to dump on Nintendo. it's the same way Nintendo fans disqualify the Wii U so they can pretend it's switch vs PS4 and X1.

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willnulife2880d ago

"when was the Xbox brand ever on top?"

If you just mean number of consoles sold, I guess only during a certain period of 360/PS3 days.

If you mean making the most money? They're on top right now.

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_LarZen_2882d ago

Just a little follow up comment. I have to say it's incredible how many fanboys there are here. 44 and counting on this comment alone.

Glad to know that even if sites like this are infested with these zealots they are most likely as insignificant in life as in the big picture when it comes to this awesome hobby that is gaming.

Genuine-User2881d ago

Don't pay any attention to the like/dislike ratio, it doesn't hold any value.

What you said was perfectly reasonable.

rainslacker2881d ago

Why assume all disagrees are fan boys? Do you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a fan boy? Maybe they just don't agree with you, but have the same console preference as you.

I disagree with you because MS needs more than just a powerful machine to lay a good foundation for next gen.

X1X really does nothing for them for the next gen if they can't manage to utilize that power in a manner to make people want it.

dcbronco2881d ago

@Rain actually he's probably right. It won't allow Microsoft to catch up. It will outsell the Pro. In fact I bet Pro sales decline unless they drop the price down to $300. People will see the difference in $100-50.

But I agree that X lays a foundation for the next generation that Sony is probably seriously concerned about. Microsoft got a lot of engineering going on in that package and Sony will have to spend a lot of R&D money to compete. Plus they need to get on working virtual system models and running software on it to see just what they need to do.

I think some things will be solved for them. Ryzen could provide a cheap and powerful CPU. From there they just need to determine what kind of GPU they will use, how many teraflops are enough and how much adjusting they're willing to make. I believe even if Microsoft goes Ryzen, I believe they will too, Microsoft will still make extensive changes. More than Sony probably will be willing to do. So I believe Microsoft will again be the most powerful especially since they can wait on Sony to go first again and design leapfrogging designs like they did with X.

I also believe Microsoft might go with a hybrid CPU. I'm hoping both go with a programmable AI on their Ryzen chips that the developers can access. That's another area where I believe always on can make a difference. If your console is connected the AI can access a database of everyone's play and make adjustments to how NPC characters respond. It would greatly increase replay on SP. I think Microsoft will have a leg up on those things especially considering Azure and their announced move toward being a cloud/AI first company now.

I just believe with Microsoft having their hand already in some of the things that are going to be important next generation they have an advantage and X is the start of that.

Chevalier2881d ago

I agree with Rain and disagree with Bronco. Power doesn't mean much if you got no games. If MS wants to build any foundation for the future they need to set up new studios. Sony has been steady building those studios since the PS2. MS as usual ONLY has short term goals with all this talk of power its apparent. If they actually had ANY foresight they would have set up studios at the same time as developing the X so that they could release games. The X at its high price will sell well for maybe 2-3 months then drop off once most of the hardcore crowd is finished buying it imho. I would be much more inclined to believe it if my customers actually were asking for it.

JOHN_DOH2881d ago

@dcbronco

Why will sony have to spend money to compete? They can just use whatever new chip AMD comes up with. Microsoft just used the 14nm chips polaris based from AMD, they aren't the ones making the apu in the xboxx. If they waited a few months, they probably could've used the newer AMD stuff, (like many here thought before) though it would definitely have costed more.

dcbronco2881d ago

@JohnDoh

Both Microsoft and Sony make extensive changes to the base parts AMD licenses them. That's why they are called semi-custom. If you remember back when PS4 was launched AMD actually released an APU based on its APU. So the chips are different from what AMD normally sells. AMD sells chips that include what the basic user needs. Console APUs are specialized chips versions. Just like you see GPUs geared toward compute and deep learning that are based on the same architecture but geared towards a different task. On X Microsoft took Jaguar cores and at least doubled the bandwidth inside most areas of the chip which were the bottlenecks that made Jaguar so weak. It's not of the self parts. That's why on most test X has out performed a regular 6 teraflops GPU.

dcbronco2881d ago

@Chevalier

What your customers ask for is irrelevant. Unless you're running an international business taste change from region to region. As far as studios go that is overblown. One of those things people believe until they don't. If Sony's president of PlayStation tells you most exclusives lose money that tells you people are in love with the idea but it isn't really something that matters. It's being in love with the dream of one day actually wanting to buy one of those exclusives.

Based on the amount of hype you get for many of those exclusives every one of them should sell 10 million copies. Maybe more. You see post after post of day one for me. Then 59.6 million people forget it existed at launch. Slowly over the months some make a million in sales. But after deals and price cuts they lose money. Again, Sony admits they often lose money.

So what does that say when people clamor for something then forget it exist when they get to have it. They were just caught up in idea. They may be fanboys or just sheep. They may have been initially excited but lost interest over time. Look at the Last Guardian. Has it sold 3-4 million copies? The given hype should have resulted in at least 20% adoption rates. Sixty million consoles means 12 million copies worldwide. Is it close. No, it's love of the idea of exclusives not actual desire to buy them.

I do appreciate Sony's willingness to give talent a chance in hopes of something great and wish Microsoft took the same approach on more than Indies. But I also understand Microsoft makes quality exclusives and Xbox gamers consistently show them exclusives aren't important. The world has gone a long time with people being sold on the idea of something that they really have no interest in. It's what advertising is all about. It's never really about the exclusives, it's about a handful of games. And mostly about selling people on ideas. Sony has people sold on the idea that exclusives matter.

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FallenAngel19842883d ago

1.) Microsoft was never on top in the first place.
2.) If a cheaper more mass-market friendly slimline version couldn't achieve the desired affect, why would a more expensive premium console do so?

LexHazard792882d ago (Edited 2882d ago )

Not that I think Xbox is gonna catch Playstation. I do however feel like it will do very well and surprise many.
Also I think that Xbox One Slim didnt achieve the desired affect because the same day the announced it, they also teased X. Even if it was a yr away Im not gonna buy S when X right around corner.

yeahright22881d ago

I don't agree. Betting on power instead of games won't win the day. It never has. the 1X isn't meant for the masses, xbox suits said so themselves, it's meant for enthusiasts.
So I'd bet money 1X will win 3 or 4 NPDs, xbox fanboys will go bonkers with "I told you so" comments and then it'll die off as there aren't enough xbox enthusiasts out there to sustain that.

TKCMuzzer2881d ago

Price is king, ignore resolution, ignore other nonsense, value for money will always win out. In a market where causal gamers make up for a high percentage of purchasers, value for money and price will always be significant. A $500 console is not attractive to a casual gamer as they don't care about 4K etc.

People who believe that a $500 console will work wonders are living in the land of hope, I mean gamers are moaning about a £10 hike in PS Plus, let alone dropping £400 on improved resolution even before the outlay of a new TV on top.

InTheLab2882d ago

Sound points but you somehow have 65 disagrees?

2nd place with the Xbox
3rd with the 360
2nd with the x1

Maybe first in the US? That title makes me weary about reading the rest of it.

Also, the x1x is for enthusiasts and there's no games worth buying it for.

They are lucky to make 4th with the Sega and snes mini consoles launching. Forget about the Switch as it will get crushed by it this holiday

Eonjay2881d ago (Edited 2881d ago )

They aren't real. They come from one person with many accounts.

dcbronco2881d ago

Funny how Sony fanboys see every up coming Sony exclusive as a guaranteed hit while every Microsoft exclusive is a guaranteed failure. I know there is history. But it's still silly to dismiss them by default. I believe both Crackdown and Sea of Thieves will sell consoles and will be in the same Horizon window the Sony Pro exclusives came in. Sony fans relish the past way too much. Except No Man's Sky.

Just like with title diversity. Sony fans still harp on that while Microsoft releases games like Tacoma, Ashen, Ori and Cuphead. Both consoles have diverse lineups.

Ab522881d ago

"Funny how Sony fanboys see every up coming Sony exclusive as a guaranteed hit while every Microsoft exclusive is a guaranteed failure"

Becasue that is true and your tears can't change that.

"I believe both Crackdown and Sea of Thieves will sell consoles"

Lmao, oh I am sure people are waitingt for these masterpieces. Haha

"Both consoles have diverse lineups."

PS4 has a better lineup.. objectively. Both in quantity and quality. Diversity on xbox is a joke.

InTheLab2881d ago

@dcbronco

There are no pro or x exclusives dude. Just ps4 and Xbox exclusives and what's coming up during the release of the xb1x won't move any consoles. The upgrade itself will sell to the base but you can't seriously believe those two games are system sellers.

I'm a fan of the first crackdown so I'll be buying it at some point but it's currently not a priority this fall and holiday season. Ad it will be the same for many...

Chevalier2881d ago

" I believe both Crackdown and Sea of Thieves will sell consoles and will be in the same Horizon window the Sony Pro exclusives came in. Sony fans relish the past way too much. Except No Man's Sky. "

No you're delusional if you think those games will sell Xbox One X systems. I work in a game store and we literally have ZERO preorders for both SoT and Crackdown. They will both sell miserably. I had more preorders of Recore than I did BOTH of those games combined.

Based on many years of experience its not looking good for either title. Guaranteed the 'sales' of both will only be boosted when Xbox starts giving them away 'free' just like Gears 4, FH3, Halo 5 and RoTR. Last gen we never gave away Halo, Gears, Forza free whereas this gen every fall their major release has been given away 'free' each fall.

nitus102881d ago

@Eonjay

You could be right but for one person to do that they would also have to have multiple email accounts since it is very easy for a system administrator to search for an email account and if you get multiple login names associated with that account then you send a please explain and if you don't get a reply within say one to two weeks ban those accounts.

If the system admin has scripts (they are really easy to write) an automated process could be set up to daily or weekly sent information relating to multiple account abusers to the system admin for further action.

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PiNkFaIrYbOi2883d ago

What sort of drugs is the author on?

SpaceRanger2882d ago

"The reaction at this year's E3 is not unlike the kid at the playground who has had enough of all the nitpicking and bullying."

I respectfully disagree.

I'd say the reaction is more of the kid that bought his school project to get a good grade, rather than actually innovatively earning it like the other kids.

freshslicepizza2882d ago

Depends who you talk to. If you are on a forum that totally favors one company over all the others of course the response will be lukewarm. Do I think the XB1X will give them a chance to be back on top? No, but it will be great option for those who enjoy console gaming and like knowing it will offer the best performing versions on a console platform.

Rimeskeem2882d ago

At this point in time I feel that people invest in consoles either because of their friends or exclusives. Power for multiplats and such doesn't really effect the market that much. If it did the OG Xbox would have done significantly better against the PS2.

Kingthrash3602882d ago

Smh when will yall stop blaming others for MS mistakes.
Also performance has to do with frame rate and it's because of the performance the xbox X is struggling to get to its targeted native 4k....I'm hearing even crackdown is having performance issues. ..hell looking at gameplay you can see it.
Xbox X has the potential to have better looking games but with that cpu it's gunna have performance issues trying to make it native 4k.

Bigpappy2882d ago

@Rimeskeem. That is a horrible example. That was the first Xbox, and was only released a year after the PS4 with way less 3rd party support. No GTA, No E.A sports, worst Japanese support than they have now, LOL. What the OG Xbox did was make Xbox a legit contender. That is why the 360 did so well. Xbox became the Best place to play online because of what Xbox live evolved into, Halo and better performing multi-plat games. That continued and grew on 360.
X1 fell off mostly because it didn't run games better that PS4 and yet came at a higher price. I but it strictly because it is where I fell comfortable. i.e. XBL how it just works and how I communicate. Love the controllers and the people I play with including younger family members. But I knew from the day I saw the specs that M$ would have a tough time with core gamers. Specs do matter and I could see the obvious difference.

Godmars2902882d ago

Then it depends on who you talk to, in numbers, at or after the cash register.

Raiden2881d ago

Sony is still losing money, for all the exclusive games they have, the cost of development on these titles are not putting the studios in the black (profit) yes we have the all these game 60+mil and still most of the games are not making profit. You can disagree but it true, on the MS side there exclusives are smaller and the studios are in profit even with the low end sales.

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LexHazard792882d ago

so no innovation? Really because Xbox engineers having been outclassing Sony for quite some time now. From BC on down to Xbox X modifications..

johndoe112112882d ago

Are you freaking serious????? There's no way in hell you're serious.

dcbronco2881d ago

JohnDoe what did he say wrong. Microsoft has outclassed Sony in the engineering department since the 360. I'll include examples and Sony did things but Microsoft did some pretty epic things.

First mass market unified shader GPU. Something NVIDIA gave up on as impossible.
First true SoC.
Kinect is an innovation that brought us Hololens.
Using voice for interface, adopted by many other products.
The ability to use sign language, which I believe was meant to be used in Tacoma.

You can list the Cell. I'm not sure of any other major ones. That would have been huge if it had been given time even though other companies gave up on it as well. Don't say bluray, that was an add on. So if you have a list to back up your reaction cool. I haven't had a PlayStation in a while.

Microsoft added hard drives to consoles which is kind of inevitable. PS2 did have a add on modem.

Ab522881d ago

And Sony developers have been destroying xbox developers for a long time now.

steveo1234562881d ago

I think ms innovation has contributed to there sales current gen. if they had focused on the core console instead of integrated Kinect into the package, they might have stood a chance. who knows what they could have shaved off the price without Kinect.

But sonys marketing, all the scare stories about the feds spying on your living room and shooting down digital game sales put a nail in the coffin before the race even started.

Personally I thought the innovation was great, but sony knew they could easily sway opinions the other way by saying their console was a console and nothing else, and they did. Console gamers weren't ready for change

Least this time with the x ms are keeping it simple and just going for power, no gimmicks

TKCMuzzer2881d ago (Edited 2881d ago )

Lol what? How long did it take them to stick the power supply inside the console?. BC is software engineering and X modifications are hardware engineers.
I very doubt no matter what Sony software engineers do they can not get PS3 games to run on PS4 hardware as they are completely different architectures. I also believe this would take help from the devs who created the games, there is no value in it as the cost is more than they would get back if they could get it working.
The Xbox One X is just a more powerful Xbox One using newer components some 4 years after the original console which was weaker and more expensive than its nearest rival (great engineering).
May I also say that BC is not innovation, PS2 played PS1 games (all of them), Launch PS3 played PS2 games and PS1 games (all of them). Just because Microsoft have done it the last 12 months doesn't mean its innovation and completely Wipeout history of other companies.
Here is innovation for Microsoft, how about investing all those billions of dollars into something really innovative for your games console.......games.
Why did Xbox One owners purchase the console? they seem more obsessed with Xbox 360 games than anything else.

@dcbroco
Barrel scraping or what. The fact you think kinect was a pretty epic thing says all there is to be said about your comment.
Here is one, Sony created the PS1, which has had one of the biggest impacts on modern gaming, it brought arcade gaming to the home, it helped elevate games consoles from just being a toy. It helped propel the video game industry to compete and out do both the movie and music industries for revenue and that even before they released the PS2.
Innovation is something that has dramatic effect on the industry. There is no denying that the PlayStation brand has done that and others jumped on the bandwagon (your beloved Microsoft). Then there all those games from Crash Bandicoot to God Of War, Uncharted, The Last Of us all which have had a far more dramatic impact on gaming than bloody unified shaders and voice to control your interface. We all like our favourite brands etc but don't pretend that redilicious list you have made in anyway has had an 'epic' effect on the games industry.

dcbronco2881d ago (Edited 2881d ago )

@Muzzer

You say the PS1 changed gaming then argue the console doesn't matter it's the games. That says everything that needs to be said about your comment.

And Kinect leading to AR at a reasonable price is going to be huge. Judge slowly. I will say Microsoft didn't utilize Kinect to its full potential. They should have led the way in ways to utilize it. But that is kinda typical of most companies. They hire based on meaningless sheets of paper. The things that allow someone to create truly unique ideas can't be taught in a classroom. They have more natural origins. That's why most companies buy small companies, but often ruin their innovations. Innovation isn't paint by numbers. Sometimes you luck up and get something great. Most times you get one great idea then you slowly die. You can see that clearly in computers. Texas Instruments was huge, then IBM was huge, now Intel is huge. But Intel is clearly faltering and I've posted that they were for a couple of years on this site. Now it's happening and like with the others most don't see it yet. AMD is about to eat Intel's lunch and there isn't much chance Intel can buy their way out of it.

Godmars2902881d ago (Edited 2881d ago )

@dcbronco:
Know Kinect is dead, might still be being used in the private by companies w/M connections, but is Hololens still a thing? Has anyone talked about it lately?

MS has a habit of getting into tech and product fields, Zune for iPod, Surface for tablets, Xbox for Playstation, and attempt to dominate as the 'true" innovator or inventor of the tech. Voice interface is something you're just trying to give them. May as well have brought up video streaming cause that was something their PR tried to do with the 360 and even later with the XB1 with all the "TV-TV-TV" BS. Both efforts of which fell flat on their faces because MS tacked on additional fees to 3rd party services.

For innovation to mean something it has to be more than introduced. It has to flourish, at the hands of the introducing company if they'r to be given credit for it. And by all counts that's not MS.

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Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition announced for Nintendo Switch 2

We have another announcement from the Little Nightmares universe as Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition was just announced for Nintendo Switch 2. It launches on October 10, 2025. According to today’s announcement, Little Nightmares Enhanced Edition will run at 4K and 60 frames per second.

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..announced for every System including the Switch 2.

hiawa239h ago

Definitely getting it for the Switch 2.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer1d 6h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30001d 6h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer1d 5h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

Terry_B1d 5h ago

Yeah..its super annoying.

blacktiger1d 4h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30001d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole23h ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto1d 5h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing691d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif1d 4h ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing691d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif1d 3h ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot1d 5h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast1d 4h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts1d 4h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto1d 3h ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos1d 1h ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo16h ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner13h ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic188112h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Are you and Anast the same person?

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted1d 2h ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast1d 4h ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay1d 4h ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted1d 2h ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34851d 1h ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK1d 2h ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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