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Here is Demon's Souls running at almost full speed on the Playstation 3 emulator, RPCS3

YouTube’s member ‘Unreal’ has shared a video, showing Demon’s Souls running on RPCS3. And from the looks of it, this title will be fully playable in a matter of months. As we can see in this video, the game runs at almost full speed on an Intel i7 6600K (clocked at 4.5Ghz) with an NVIDIA GTX970.

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NerdBurglars2622d ago

i am a little skeptical about this one. I always thought that those messages and player ghosts came from the network. Emulating a game is one thing, but being able to gain access to the playstation network via an emulator is a different story

AcidDvl2622d ago

I think you're right. Plus there is zero evidence that this is running on an emulator. For all we know this could be PS3 direct feed.

Lon3wolf2622d ago

Although some of the very first messages that you come across were there as a tutorial and not left by players, these ones appeared whether connected online or not.

kevnb2622d ago

There are messages even when you play offline, which I'm pretty sure is the only way you can still play.

TWB2622d ago

Demons Souls master server is still very much online. Theres just not much of an active player base left. Every year during the Back to the Nexus even you can see a decent amount of traffic, though.

KaaF2622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

These are developer massages, they are one the disk, not the network. RPCS3 is a well known open source emulator, you can try it yourself if you have a beefy cpu and maybe support the devs on Patreon:
patreon .com/Nekotekina << Delete the space.

KTF262622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

Developers messages instead of long tutorial they are exist also in Dark Souls 1,2,3 and Bloodborne
and that phantom @ 1:08 also from the developers
you can check every video walkthrough this phantom always appear at the same area

nitus102622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

It's difficult to say if the demo is from the PS3 or the emulator. Still, the player actually beat the gray demon which shows he had experience with playing the game. Of course, he won't survive the next part.

II would be more impressed if the player showed the start of the castle section (you would only have half your life bar at the start) since if you do connect to the PSN servers you would see player ghosts and marks on the ground left by players.

BTW. The Demon's Souls servers are still up although you do need a PSN account (it is free) to connect and people are still playing. I clocked up over 20 hours last week. Now that takes me back. 😊

cartoonx12622d ago

it's 100% legit emulator footage. RPCS3 is well known emulator for PC.

PurpHerbison2622d ago

People were able to connect to the JP Monster Hunter servers via emulator back in the day.

Helios862621d ago (Edited 2621d ago )

The messages in the tutorial area are all developer placed, they are there even if you play offline. You can come across "offline" messages in various parts of the game aswell. This holds true for all games in the soulsborne series.

Why would they even fake it to begin with? It's not like it's hard for you to try it yourself and find out.

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Imalwaysright2622d ago

"Stay at home" programmers doing what people around here told me that Sony engineers couldn't do. PC is the ultimate gaming platform.

ocelot072622d ago

Sony couldn't emulate this 8 year old game on a much weaker system? The CPU used alone is £200+. You can buy a brand new PS4 Slim for less than that.

Imalwaysright2622d ago

Sony engineers know PS3 hardware inside out and could achieve this on a level of efficiency that these "stay at home" programmers could only dream of without requiring similar specs to the ones used by the person that made the video and let me tell you that with more time and optimization you will be able to run this game with lower specs on your PC as well. All I hear from people around here are excuses, excuses and more excuses. Oh well, Sony is in the business of remastering, streaming and remaking games that no one gives a crap about anyway so why should they care about BC?

KTF262622d ago

Sony have full datasheets of the PS3 and these developers don't have anything

ocelot072622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

@KTF26 Ohhhh I forgot about that. Sony has all the data on the PS3 meaning emulating the software on a completely different architecture must be a breeze right? Look if it was possible am sure Sony would of done so as they would of made money on digital PS3 sales.

Since we are on the topic. Nintendo have the data for the N64 why has there not been any N64 emulated games on the Wii or the Wii U or the Switch? Or how about Sega since they are 3rd party and have all that data. Why have we not seen any Sega Saturn or Dreamcast emulated games on our PS4's or Xbox Ones? Or are you another one of them people like Imalwaysright and speak on behalf of everyone and simply say "but nobody wants those games".

KTF262622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

I didn't say it's a breeze
But Xbox 360 emulated on Xbox One while it's still in very early stages on PC
Xbox One and PS4 has the same CPU with slightly lower clock rate
Xbox 360 also use modified version of PPE (The main core of Cell processor) so at least they can emulate 3rd party games because most of them don't utilize the SPUs (the hard part) very well

Edit:
and about N64
the Wii U can defiantly emulate it
maybe the find it not worth investing because the Wii U didn't sell very well
I remembered I ran Project64 on a Pentium 4 10 years ago or so
Sega are out of the Hardware Market

ocelot072622d ago

Aright I will give you the PS1 and PS2 emulation. But I still stand by my point. Not only was PS3 hard to code for. Yes I agree Sony probably know how to code for the PS3 blindfolded these days. But what you are asking is for Sony to dive into each game and somehow get that PS3 code working on a completely different architecture. I say it's to hard for them to do it. You seem to think it's possible somehow. Since we both don't work for Sony and am pretty sure you have never developed a game for the PS3 (I certainly have not). Let's just agree to disagree that something is stopping them from doing it. What ever it is I don't think it has anything to do about remastering to sell again.

@KTF26 As for Xbox 360 being emulated on Xbox One. Good job Microsoft they managed to get get some (but not all) 360 games running on an Xbox One. But I still stand by my point that since the PS4 was hard to code for. It must be even harder to get it running on a completely different architecture.

It's the same for Gamecube classics. If Nintendo could of done it for the Wii U then they would of done at least the best of Gamecube titles even if it was just a handful.

narsaku2622d ago

It's not about owning the Sony platform, it's about being able to combine all games on one non-corporate platform where you'll always be able to access your old games without worrying about a cd breaking or Sony dropping their old service.

KTF262622d ago

Sony just being lazy because they have the market share
you said it PS1 and PS2
PS1 no emulation at all despite it is exist on PS3
and the number of PS2 games supported on PS4 are less than 1/4 of the number of XBox 360 backward compatible on Xbox One

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Liqu1d2622d ago

"Intel i7 6600K (clocked at 4.5Ghz) with an NVIDIA GTX970"

I'm sure the shitty Jaguar CPU in the PS4 is capable of emulating the Cell.

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rainslacker2622d ago

Sony went with the less powerful CPU because the CPU is becoming less important to games nowadays than it used to be. GPU compute is the new trend, and likely will remain that way barring some change to CPU architecture, which has remained relatively stagnant for years now. GPU's are much more efficient at handling the bulk of the code required for today's games, which is why a stronger GPU is more important. Not just for graphics, but for general performance of the game processes themselves.

Princess_Pilfer2622d ago

Tell that to games like AC unity, Fallout 4, Watchdogs 2 and GTA 5 that bring modern consoles to their knees specifically because the CPU can't handle the complexity of the scene and the number of things it has to keep track of. Not to mention that being a big part of the reason that most games on console won't run at 60FPS (or even a consistent 30) even when the console has the GPU power to handle it.

GPU seems way more important right now because GPU tech advances faster, and because console CPUs are garbage and that is what many developers are targeting. A good CPU is imperitive for an actually good gaming experience in many modern AAA titles, and it would probably be more so if Sony/MS hadn't decided to use a garbage laptop CPU as the heart of their machines.

ocelot072622d ago

Both me and you don't know how easy or difficult it is to reverse engineer a PS3 cell based game and getting it to run on an x86 based PS4. This is what they pretty much have to do when they remaster a game. People like you expect Sony to simply emulate the PS3 cell based games and run on a x86 PS4 system. We all know about the horror stories about the first few years of developers even trying to develop for the cell architecture. Valve couldn't even do it and had to outsource The Orange Box to EA.

I would like to see emulated PS3/Native PS3 support on the PS4. But since am certain it's never going to happen due to the reasons I mentioned above. Am not going to complain about it. Also please stop speaking on behalf of everyone thanks.

Imalwaysright2622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

What reasons? Don't compare what Sony engineers could do with hardware they created and know better than anyone to a team that is programming this at their home. A team that nonetheless WILL optimize their code to run this on lower spec PCs compared to the one from this video.

As for those horror stories, they applied to third party devs, not Sony's 1st party and it was only in the 1st half of the generation.

The reason why there isn't PS3 emulation on the PS4 is the same exact reason why there isn't PS1 and PS2 BC or would those be oh so difficult to emulate? As for the Switch it is exactly for the same reason: selling the same games to the same people 1, 2 or 3 times if need be.

generic-user-name2622d ago

What ever you have to tell yourself to help you feel less insecure.

ocelot072622d ago

Was that aimed at me? If so please enlighten me of what I am suppose to be insecure about? I have a PS3 if I wanted to re-play Demon's Souls again. I didn't have to wait 8 years to play it on PC.

Imalwaysright2622d ago

Says the person that for some reason felt the need to make an useless comment. Do you feel better now?

DigitalRaptor2622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

- I'm sure this game is using the Cell SPUs just like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla and Insomniac... I'm sure.
- I'm sure that Sony can engineer a backwards compatibility solution to account for absolutely every instance of custom SPU usage... I'm sure.
- And with only 10% of games playable on this emulator, I'm absolutely sure we're getting somewhere enough that if you were to present this to Sony you would not have them laugh in your face.

In seriousness, the fact that only 10% of games are playable from start to finish tells you everything you need to know about the complications and intricacies of emulating the Cell processor, and ways in which games are programmed to use it. By the looks of it the 10% in question mostly comprise of the more simplistic indie games AND (quite ironic to your further points about remasters) HD re-releases from previous gen consoles.

Let's get you on the team... maybe Uncharted 2 and God of War III will be on that list in about 5 years.

Imalwaysright2622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

The fact that "stay at home" programmers without the knowledge of the hardware and information that Sony engineers without any doubt have of the PS3 CAN emulate 10% of the PS3 games tells me that its very much possible to emulate the system which I have been told for years that it was impossible to do.

Also what is laughable here is that you're talking about indie games when I just saw one of the most loved and complex games gameplay wise on the system being not only emulated and fully playable but also improved with higher resolutions than the original on the PS3. Even more laughable is that people like you that call themselves Sony "fans", should be the FIRST ones to want Sony's platforms to be the best they can be but for some reason you are the 1st ones to want the system to be worst than it could be and laugh at the idea of their systems being better. You're a poor excuse of a Playstation fan. You're nothing but a fraud that gives a bad rep to the true PS fans.

spicelicka2622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

"PC is the ultimate gaming platform."

Not sure why sentences like these are tossed around as if it establishes some kind of point?

You realize games are made on PC's right? so your point is kind of redundant. PC is not a separately identifiable gaming platform simply because all PCs differ from house to house. When you say PS4 or Xbox1 you're talking about a specific platform that's equivalent everywhere. When you say PS1 it's easy to refer to a specific platform with specific power. When you say PC you could be talking about your grandma's PC from 2001 or a $3000 machine. One can't even run minecraft while the other can be used to literally make a game.

rainslacker2622d ago (Edited 2622d ago )

Firstly, the people who create emulators are much smarter than you. They reverse engineer the code to figure out what process does what, and then go to emulate that through whatever system they are creating their emulator on. having a full data sheet of available processes is not necessary.

Secondly, the full data sheets(as you call them) were leaked long ago. More proper name would be process command reference document. Anyhow, this was leaked back in the PS3 days. On top of that, the CELL itself is fairly straightforward, and uses a PowerPC core, which is readily understood among people who would do this kind of stuff. On top of that, the SPE processing isn't really that complicated. They're highly specialized processors which do one thing, and are easily to replicate through emulation. Having them process at the same speed as the native CELL is quite another matter.

I'm sure if Sony put out a $700-900 console at the start of this gen to compare to the specs required to run this emulator at "full speed" then they wouldn't have had a problem emulating PS3 hardware. But they figured that making a console that people would want to buy....because obviously selling a $500-600 console is not good for business based on last gens criticisms....would be more prudent than supporting a feature which they learned the gen before wasn't important compared to price.

Sony created an emulator for PS2 games on PS4 which they kept to PS2 classic games on PSN, and even PS1 games on the PS3, so it's not a matter of ability. It's a matter that they can't actually emulate PS3 games on the PS4, because the hardware isn't capable. The SPE's on the CELL can process more data than the PS4 can. It's specialized data, but more data none the less.

Your argument would mean something if they were running this emulator on the PS4, or even the PS4P, but they aren't.

@ocelot

What's stopping PS3 emulation on PS4 is that the PS4 simply can not replicate the SPE ability to process specific kinds of data with adequate speed. The Power PC core isn't really an issue I'd imagine. Emulating the RSX could have some quirks, but can likely be overcome. Managing the nature of doing RSX to SPE offloading is just not possible with the power in the PS4 or PS4P. This principal is actually reversed this gen with GPU compute, which is essentially the same concept, but translating that to prevent it can cause all sorts of problems, so with the PC emulation, they're basically brute forcing that offloading with a really strong CPU.

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343_Guilty_Spark2622d ago

They said it couldn't be done!!!

Liqu1d2621d ago

No, they said it couldn't be done on PS4 hardware.

Ju2622d ago

That's impressive. Still, I am curious how much SPU utilization is used to play it that way.

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All PS5 Pro Enhanced games listed - titles so far

Here is a look at all the confirmed PlayStation 5 Pro-enhanced game that are know of so far, featuring first-party games, and more.

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darthv7216d ago

Sadly... no bloodborne on that list. I feel it may never be.

darthv7216d ago

Reading more about PS5 Pro Game Boost... it wasn't what I initially thought it was. I was thinking it would be like FPS Boost but it is specifically for resolution, not performance.

"PS5 Pro Game Boost Explained

Like the PS4 Pro, the PS5 Pro will also include a "Game Boost" mode that retroactively enhances older games on the console. This applies to PS4 games as well, utilizing PSSR upscaling to boost image quality. PS5 Pro's Game Boost will apply to more than 8,500 backward-compatible PS4 games on the console, improving their resolution. The feature will also apply to PS VR2 games, as revealed in CNET's hands-on preview of the console."

https://www.mensjournal.com...

MrNinosan16d ago

But the blog writes:

"Other enhancements include PS5 Pro Game Boost, which can apply to more than 8,500 backward compatible PS4 games playable on PS5 Pro. This feature may stabilize or improve the performance of supported PS4 and PS5 games."

Stabilize or improve the performance is what I read as framerates?

Profchaos16d ago

Boost modes can not break a frame rate cap something like bloodborne van be brute forced to maintain 30fps but never go above.

Best example of this is fallout 4 on PS4 when it's boost mode was enabled on the pro the game ran much better and maintained its 30 cap whereas before it would stutter and struggle.

darthv7216d ago

^^ "supported" being the key word. So things would be status quo as they are for performance but resolution improvements looks to be across the board.

Cacabunga15d ago

PS4 Pro was promoting the not yet released heavy hitter games at that time, like God of War, Horizon, Days Gone and of course improving VR quality experience. It just made sense..

PS5pro is flexing using last gen titles. Absolute joke.
First time ever a Sony console is an easy pass for me.

fr0sty15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

PSSR can upscale both frame rate and resolution. Being that PSSR works on the game after the engine renders the image, there is no reason why it couldn't generate extra frames as well as more pixels before sending it to the display.

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BeRich23316d ago

They have to sell u a remaster first, and then a remake.

neutralgamer199216d ago

Did I read this right that some of the partners will release free updates so others might charge for it? This level of greed is getting absurd. Many games got paid next generation update so I guess now that’s a thing

northpaws16d ago

I think it was the same for PS4 Pro.

darthv7216d ago

I dont recall paying anything for an upgrade on the PS4 Pro. On PS5 I did buy into the Spider-man upgrade as well as Ghosts of Tsushima.

Tacoboto16d ago

There was never a PS4 Pro-Enhanced Premium Upgrade.

jznrpg16d ago

You make an assumption then get upset about the assumption. Just wait and see. So many people get upset so easily. Life is short try to enjoy it

neutralgamer199216d ago

No assumptions since Sony themselves said some partners meaning not all will release free updates. And we have already seen next generation updates cost money coming from PS4 to PS5

Yes you are right we should enjoy our hobby and I am not upset. Just really tired of all the greed that has entered this industry over the past 10-15 years. Just look at sports titles which have become mini casinos with all the micro transactions

Inverno16d ago

Gotta pay 10 bucks to enhance the 10 bucks you paid to enhance the 60 bucks you paid for a PS4 game. Whatchu wanna bet that this will lead up to a new 80 dollar price standard? Im almost entirely sure that GTA will be the game to set the higher price standard.

neutralgamer199216d ago

Oh yes that’s coming. You are being in the low end with $80. GTA6 could be the first game to do $99.99. Sell less make more. With budgets for games going to in 100’s of millions we will see the cost go higher. That’s just the sad reality. Way too many suits got involved with our hobby and realized this industry was making billions more than any other entertainment industry. And now it’s all about spreadsheets

Christopher16d ago

They can't dictate if they charge for it or not, sadly.

neutralgamer199216d ago

That’s true and whatever they know they charge for and get away with they will. This isn’t just about PlayStation that’s gaming in general

crazyCoconuts16d ago

@neutral - companies selling things to consumers that are willing to pay for them... Goes beyond gaming even

northpaws16d ago

Even if it is true, Sony has no right to dictate whether a third party would provide a update for free or not.

outsider162415d ago

Rdr2 comes to mind. So far Rockstar also hasn't releasedany 60fps patch. Are they gonna charge u for it i wonder?

rob-GP15d ago

I highly doubt you heard this, because its simply not true.

*If* you read or heard anything, it will have just been "some partners will release free updates that enable PS5 enhancements..." that's it. Then, you fabricated that if it's not free then it's a paid upgrade, when in reality they mean some will release patches and some won't - the same as last gen.

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Retroman16d ago

In my personal opinion
I see NOOOOOOOOOO difference in graphics comparing it to regular PS5 graphics...I'll pass until PS6

jwillj2k416d ago

Thats because youre watching a 1080p compressed video curtesy of youtube.

TheKingKratos16d ago

I watched in 4k and didn't see shit .. Even in their own video they needed to 200% zoom in to notice something different in a Fking Draw distance lmao 😂😂
Only for 700

Neonridr15d ago

frame rate aside, you aren't really going to see much visual improvements. Unless you are like Mark going nuts because the foliage in the distance is a little more rendered.

Eidolon16d ago

I think they compared games, with PSSR that looked better and ran at 60fps vs 30fps on base PS5.

jwillj2k415d ago

@ TheKingKratos

The video was streamed at 1080p by sony. Doesnt matter what the youtube settings are.

sagapo15d ago

It’s a bit dumb by Sony to go into detail on gfx differences and stream the whole thing at 1080p don’t you think?
But I’m sure sites like DF will come with proper videos for that.

Juiceup15d ago

The only difference that will sell me is 60+ frame rate. If lots of new games will release running 60fr close to or equal to Fidelity mode like they are saying, it's probably worth it to me. But I detected a lot of 'business speak' bs in that 8 minute video. I honestly care very little about what it can do for games I've already played my fill of.

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victorMaje16d ago

ZERO.
The number of physical games I own that are enhanced.

DiRtY16d ago

I didn’t watch the reveal, but expected ~100 games on that list. There are only 14 titles?

WTH were they thinking?

Zeke6815d ago

They said at least 50 titles at release in November, still not a huge number but a little better...

Zeke6814d ago

For the downvoter, troll your way over to Cnet and see what Sony said to them. ;)

EazyC15d ago

Perhaps a slower than anticipated long term release schedule forced them into playing their hardware hand

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Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Drops To Best Price Yet Alongside More Great PS5 Game Deals

PlayStation's Back to School sale includes big discounts on a bunch of PS5 exclusives, including Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

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just_looken58d ago

spiderman 2 $40 from $70 so it's priced right now as a expansion pack like MM.,

andy8558d ago

Pretty decent expansion pack then saying i got 30-40 hours out if it.

just_looken58d ago

I can get 30hours out of a job outside does not mean it was good.

But i know no matter what i post or prove people love there nerfed spiderman or playing as a blind person for 5 hours then mary jane shehulk for another 12hours.

I am so glad today's "gamer" was not around for the ps3/360 era these new gamers are way to easy to please and have killed gaming.

andy8558d ago

It was good though. Are you actually saying it wasn't a good game? And blind? The person you play as was deaf and it was 10 mins not 5 hours. Doesn't seem like you've even played it by that comment. And MJ was...30 mins at most? Not sure how you get 40 mins into 17 hours exactly

CobraKai58d ago

@just_looken

I’ve been playing since the Sega Master System. I love Spiderman 2. There’s too much going for it to be a simple expansion pack. I felt Miles Morales could fall into the expansion pack range.

If you didn’t like it, it’s fine. That’s what’s great about opinions, there are no wrong ones, just different ones.

StormSnooper57d ago

You guys have to understand, they don’t have anything even close to it on his preferred system. There is a whole psychology behind his comment.

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pwnmaster300058d ago (Edited 58d ago )

lol I was in the ps3/360 era and spider man 2 would of been a massive hit still.

Please don’t try to represent us gamers from that time. You are not a good example, always complaining and being negative lol.

CobraKai57d ago

@just
I mean, it’s New York. You can’t exactly change the map.

It sounds like you’re hard to please vs gamers being easy to please. You mentioned great games. Games whose sequels had very similar gameplay with each other with very minimal changes or upgrades.

Im with pwnmaster. Don’t speak for us. It sounds like probably only started gaming from PS360 era.

Rebel_Scum58d ago

Peter Parker lives in New York, where else do you expect the map to be?

Using the same map/location is not a problem.

On topic: In my region the base game is $80. Still not low enough for me to dive in. Not that Im in a rush. Havent even finished the 1st one’s dlc yet.

just_looken58d ago

The map still has asset's buildings the the first game its like madden yeah same stadium but can you change that madden 14 logo?

Not to mention they never added shield basses basically unique interiors you can explore off missions or add in jersey.

pwnmaster300058d ago

Sony pony??
Are you a child? Lmao

Just stop man. It’s embarrassing.
We can like games and not be a fanboy.
Gaming shouldn’t be taken this serious. Relax lol

just_looken58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

"lol I was in the ps3/360 era and spider man 2 would of been a massive hit still.

Please don’t try to represent us gamers from that time. You are not a good example, always complaining and being negative lol. "

You come at me calling me a bad example talking like this game is gods gift to us and on any sony article you defend them no matter what.

But now i am a child? what because i used logic again this site you throw facts at people they cry to the admins to get me off here again or play the victim card.

pwnmaster300058d ago (Edited 58d ago )

Lmao gods gift to us what. I said it would have been a massive hit not a perfect game. It’s a good game get over it.

And this is why I said what I said.
“ But i know no matter what i post or prove people love there nerfed spiderman or playing as a blind person for 5 hours then mary jane shehulk for another 12hours.”

And you’re still proving me right. God forbid people like a certain game.
And BS about me on every sony article defending them. I like games and praised every games I

“ But now i am a child? what because i used logic again this site you throw facts at people they cry to the admins to get me off here again or play the victim card.”

Your opinions are not facts and the fact you think they are is sad. Step off video games for awhile.

just_looken58d ago

Na its fine you go ahead belive 200 million dollars makes sense for 1 game when 80 created a trilogy on 360.

I live without blinders unlike others.

pwnmaster300058d ago (Edited 58d ago )

“I live without blinders unlike others.“
🤣😂🤣 thanks for the laugh. Have a good night brother. Fight that good fight your fighting.

repsahj58d ago

Saddest Xbox loyalist on N4G. XD

StormSnooper57d ago (Edited 57d ago )

He is a duplicate account. He changes names to get a new lease on life and people would respond to him. Sad indeed.

MetroidFREAK2157d ago

Definitely more than an expansion pack... the Miles Morales game from 2020 is that... ya silly goose

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The best PS5 exclusives 2024

With so many PS5 exclusives to choose from, it can be a little overwhelming to pick which one to play. This is especially true for a new PlayStation gamer who has yet to experience the wonder of PlayStation-exclusive storytelling. So, here's KnowTechie's take on the best PS5 exclusives in 2024 and beyond

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Hereandthere165d ago

PlayStation is killing it with the exclusives this year. Exclusive wise, what has xbox released this year?

VersusDMC165d ago

They won't complain about Microsoft not releasing games here but put all their effort into saying that only first party counts. Games like Rebirth and Grandblue Relink don't count. Games published by Sony like Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin don't count because Sony don't own the studios.

It's some narrative building so for when Hellblade 2 come out they can say, seemingly without shame, that Microsoft is actually releasing first party games this year. And claim victory.🙃

Chevalier165d ago

Weird 1st party games didn't matter when Xbox had so little, but, now they're important again? Guess Ark 3, Stalker 2 don't count any more?

KyRo165d ago (Edited 165d ago )

ARK 3 doesn't exist and it's just a timed exclusive. It's also a game that a majority of the ARK player base doesn't want as it's a massive deviation from what people like about the original game

Abnor_Mal165d ago (Edited 165d ago )

Honestly to me it doesn’t matter what they say, they are just finally getting a chance to say all the things PS fan(boy)s were saying to them for the past few years. Let them get that, they deserve a “win” for a change.

The new narrative is that suddenly first party games matter again when awhile ago they didn’t, but that was because they were struggling with the same three games with the occasional fourth or fifth. That games should be everywhere on all platforms since that’s whats happening to theirs. The consoles don’t matter just the ability to play anywhere. Whatever Xbox is doing Sony will soon follow.

They’re not moving the goalpost anymore, but rather just moving the whole damn stadium.

jwillj2k4165d ago

Only a incel would care about who published what and who owns who.

If it’s not on the other consoles it’s an exclusive.

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Cacabunga165d ago

Killing what? Where are the 1st party games??
Stellar Blade and FF7 is what I’m seeing this year.. so shallow!!!!

andy85165d ago

Doesn't really matter as long as they're great games. Baffles me why people put an emphasis on 1st party. They're still games you can't play anywhere else this year

Cacabunga164d ago

Andy

PS brand is my favorite because of their stellar first party software.. currently I see absolutely nothing to go crazy for..

CS7164d ago

Nonsense.

PS1 and PS2 was built on great third party exclusives like FF, MGS, GTA & Tekken.

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raWfodog165d ago

Of course I love the games I’ve played from PS but I don’t believe we need to limit it to ‘exclusive’ to acknowledge that Xbox will be releasing some good games this year also. In that same vein, I believe that Xbox diehards shouldn’t limit their acknowledgment of good PS games to 1st party. There are plenty of good games to go around for everybody.

Tacoboto165d ago

This is a Playstation article about Playstation games and your comment is about Xbox. Can't you just celebrate what PS has without dragging this into console war BS?

ChasterMies165d ago

I don’t think Microsoft is releasing games exclusively on Xbox anymore. They have some timed exclusives that release on Xbox first.

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Abear21165d ago (Edited 165d ago )

Returnal, Astro Bot, and Ratchet made having it since day one worth it.

GT7 free updates and Spiderman 2 and others at 60fps have made this last year more than okay.

But yeah, it’s been dry lately. BG3 and third party have made great filler, but we ready for that SOCOM or Killzone announcement and some more 1st party goodness. Crossing fingers for Ghost of Tsushima 2 announcement this summer.

Didn’t know Helldivers was exclusive! Wtf is going on at Xbox that they can’t get these games, series s strikes again.

SonyStyled165d ago (Edited 165d ago )

Sony owns the Helldivers IP. The first was a PS3/Vita/PC game. It was never an Xbox game that they could ‘get’ a decade ago. I’m not sure what the upset is with Xbox here

CS7164d ago

Lol, how do you ignore Rebirth one of the best games ever made?

anast165d ago

Looks like they are on par with the previous gens. Solid games all around. Interestingly enough, we can't say they released a bad game yet this gen. Unlike the Quiet Man dustup.

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DefenderOfDoom2165d ago

I actually do not mind if Marathon releases on multiple platforms . I just wish that Marathon has a dedicated single player campaign.

DaniMacYo165d ago

Helldivers 2 is exactly what gaming needed. I’m loving it.

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