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Kingdom Hearts 3 Will Be Dead On Arrival on Xbox One. And Square Enix Is Partially To Blame

Well it looks like a Kingdom Hearts game will be arriving on a Xbox platform after all. Kingdom Hearts 3 is set to arrive on Ps4 & Xbox One sometime in 2018.

TheColbertinator2885d ago ShowReplies(7)
gangsta_red2885d ago

Makes little sense but whatever...word of mouth can also help this game for xbix not, to mention it can even be viewed as a new IP for Xbox gamers.

Rather have it to be played on all platforms than not have it at all.

Thatguy-3102885d ago

Yea because a 3 in the title can be seen as a new IP -_- there's back story that people that never played the old ones need to know. This title will sell less than what Ffxv sold on the Xbox.

Team_Litt2885d ago

I don't understand people who assume that all ps4 owners were PS3/2/X owners. I was a PS2 owner then jumped to Xbox 360 before getting a PS3 later into the generation. Same thing this generation, I went X1 first then PS4 this year.

PS, I've never owned or played Kingdom Hearts but I'll surely be giving it a go on Xbox One X.

BlackTar1872884d ago (Edited 2884d ago )

Well I mean you just explained that you owned 2/3 previous consoles.

Furthermore you owned the systems the numbered KH released on so why are you saying you will try 3? Why exactly now? It sounds like you're trying to make a point but the point is dull.

_-EDMIX-_2884d ago (Edited 2884d ago )

@team-I mean well you're going to have to consider PlayStation 1 moved over 100 million PlayStation 2 moved over 100 million PlayStation 3 moved over 80 million so I'm pretty positive the vast majority of people who own a PlayStation 4 statistically likely have owned those previous platforms.

I mean consider even if you are a PlayStation 2 owner to PlayStation 4 so doesn't that still mean you've played the first two titles? Those two games released for PlayStation 2...

I mean I'm not even entirely sure what your point actually is because you actually own the damn system to play the first two games on in the first place 😂😂😂

I mean it doesn't actually help your point when you're basically saying you never even played the first two Kingdom Hearts games.

gangsta_red2883d ago

Yes, because no one can get up to speed by googling the story -_-

modelgod2883d ago

I doubt it, after all it has Disney characters. Obvioulsly it will sell better on the PS but it'll still way more copies on the Xbox than what FF did. Everyone on my friends list is buying KH3, FF was, and has been trash for some time now.

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SpaceRanger2884d ago

"it can even be viewed as a new IP for Xbox gamers."

Talk about reaching lol but whatever makes people sleep at night and think they got new IPs.

Krysis2884d ago

Yeah I don't think that was how it was meant, but it you want to turn it into a fanboy thing then by all means carry on.

SpaceRanger2884d ago

Turn something that's already a "fanboy" thing into a "fanboy" thing? Pretty sure that's not how it works.

jmetalhead778122884d ago

I love how people bring up losing sleep over video games. Lol. Obviously that's something you suffer from

Kavorklestein2883d ago

Your logic is broken dude it's like this....
"I like to put words in people or even entire fanbases mouths, and then bash them for MY wrongdoing or despise them for MY artificial assumptions I've implanted into the voices of others... whether or not it's based in reality is irrelevant."
See?!
I can be stupid too!

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gangsta_red2883d ago

@krysis, fleece, jmetal, kavork

Don't mind Spaceranger. Everything in his eyes is geared around console wars so it makes his no sense comments that much more fun to read.

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OMGitzThatGuy2884d ago

Playstation fanboys want the least amount of games to release on Xbox so they can add it to their daily list spams.

XanderZane2884d ago

True.. I'm not angry KH3 is on the Xbox One. I'm angry SQ didn't put the first 2 games on it before KH3 is released. There's still time if SE was smart.

BlackTar1872884d ago

Yes. I mean it's a pretty big list right?

EatCrow2884d ago

That's what I was thinking. You know what else was dead on arrival? Tearaway, knack, the majority of jrpgs out there if we even the playing field.

You know how many silly dumb articles are written about that? None.

Condemnedman2883d ago

lol yep it gives them some sort of special entitlement. "Oh look I can play horizon Dawn and you can't" hmm no I chose not to play it.

Liqu1d2883d ago

At least they spam lists of games, Xbox fanboys have to resort to spamming lists of N4G users calling them "certified retards".

Stogz2883d ago

@EatCrow you know what else was dead on arrival? Halo wars 2, Recore, QB, SSOD, want me to keep going too? Let's stop pretending it doesnt happen (way more often) on your precious X1...

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Omnislashver362884d ago (Edited 2884d ago )

I believe there are plenty of xboxers willing to play KH. Definitely not as much as PS4, but enough to make a return on investment. Gotta remember, lots of PS2 fans went to 360 last gen, and many didn't get the note that PS4 was more powerful, cheaper, and their friends would be on it, so bought an X1(they also didn't know Square would make a comeback, so there's that). I know a ton who are pretty much locked in to Xbox, but want to play KH3 and FFVIIR. Then there are the newcomers. It's still got an action focus and one of the best ARPG systems. If any game is going to bring them to the JRPG, it'll be KH3.

Dark_Knightmare22884d ago

I don't especially after final fantasy type 0 hd and final fantasy Xv bombed on x1

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rainslacker2884d ago (Edited 2884d ago )

Think the biggest problem is it's the conclusion to the story arc. However, maybe it's not such a big deal since we haven't had a KH on PS since the PS2, and it's quite possible some PS2 people went over to Xbox during that time.

DOA, can't say, but typically JRPG type games don't sell well on Xbox.

It'd make sense to at least release the remasters on the system soon so maybe it can get some fans. Even if they never played the old ones, the fact that it's a classic series would surely entice some to try it, thus increasing the potential customer base for KH3.

I can't see this being a good game to simply jump into anywhere other than the first. While the story isn't overly complex like some people make it out to be, it is the kind of story that does build on the last. Even the side story stuff on the portable systems over the years have actual story stuff for the main series, which in itself is annoying enough. I imagine if people were jumping into it as something new for Xbox gamers, they're going to be kind of lost about the conclusion, because KH if anything, is really obtuse when it comes to it's endings, and even if you follow the story, it doesn't always make sense.

gangsta_red2883d ago

"DOA, can't say, but typically JRPG type games don't sell well on Xbox."

So I guess it's only logical for absolutely zero JRPGs to come to Xbox so we can all rally up here and complain how there's no "variety" on Xbox.

rainslacker2883d ago

I wasn't implying that at all. I'm saying that I think it's premature to claim it's DOA, because logically, there are going to be PS2 players who migrated to Xbox, and the series is big enough to be recognized.

But at the same time, it probably won't sell amazingly well due to history showing that JRPG's generally don't sell that well on Xbox.

I'd imagine that SE feels it will sell well enough to warrant making a port for it, and if it does that, it won't be DOA.

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SpaceRanger2883d ago

"Everything in his eyes is geared around console wars so it makes his no sense comments that much more fun to read."

Talk about being so defensive lol all I said was that it was reaching. Can't have a simple discussion with some of you who say whatever you think and preach it as fact.

You know what a new IP is red. Not sure how spinning it any other way makes me the one who sounds like they're not making sense.

gangsta_red2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

The fact that you still dont understand what I meant by "new IP" is what makes your continued comments funny.

Read my op comment again Spaceranger...apply it to what this article is referring to when talking about how Xbox and probably some Xbox gamers have never played a Kingdom Hearts game.

It's hard to have a discussion when you keep trying to pick a fight and then look stupid because you don't even understand what your fighting about.

SpaceRanger2883d ago

"It's hard to have a discussion when you keep trying to pick a fight and then look stupid because you don't even understand what your fighting about."

How do I look stupid? You made a comment that makes no actual sense. You're just changing a definition to your liking. I'm not fighting with you Red. Just stating the fact that it's not true to the definition of a new IP.

gangsta_red2882d ago

It made no sense to you because as a lot of us pointed out you're not understanding what I meant. Again, it has everything to do with reading and comprehending.

If I have to explain it further like a parent would a child, pm me and ill let you in on what others knew what I meant.

SpaceRanger2882d ago

"If I have to explain it further like a parent would a child, pm me and ill let you in on what others knew what I meant."

WTF? I don't need a kid to explain to me how a new game for Xbox can almost be considered a new IP. We all get what you're saying but it's nothing close to that. Get over yourself.

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moegooner882885d ago (Edited 2885d ago )

Game started development some time ago before the start of current gen. Going by what happened at the beginning of last gen, SE didn't want to have all of their eggs in one basket, which is understandable.
They obviously didn't forsee the current situation, but then again, if someone had told me the PS4 would be outselling the Xb1 2:1, I would have found this rather unlikely, but Sony had a good start, built on that momentum, and continue to support their console with many exclusives. If anything, blame MS not SE, for failing to attract a wide range of customers to its device.

Death2885d ago

Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 released on PS2. We seen a re-release on on PS3 and later on PS4 making it easy for Playstation gamers to pick up KH3. The author makes a valid point that SE should have released them on Xbox One as well if they want to have a better chance of selling the latest game in the series. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 released March of 2013 on PS3 which was the end of the generation which pretty much blows your theory about this being Microsofts fault out of the water.

moegooner882885d ago (Edited 2885d ago )

Except SE goes where the money is, and their practices this gen have reaffirmed this. Had there been more people interested in the games on Xb1, SE would have most certainly brought the remasters over. It is MS job, and not SE to ensure the console appeals to gamers of all genres. Keep fighting the good fight though soldier.

Eonjay2884d ago

You are right. This has nothing to do with Microsoft and it has everything to do with Square being dumb. KH will always be strongest on PS but if you are gonna put it on Xbox... put it all on Xbox so people can have a damn clue about why they should care. Let's not even talk about money... if Microsoft paid to have it on Xbox, surely the would have also paid for 1.5 and 2.5

_-EDMIX-_2884d ago

Why when there's very little demand? If Kingdom Hearts 3 started development on two platforms based on Square Enix not really knowing how the generation would play out it makes sense for them to continue their development on the Xbox one but it's very clear you're not seeing the collection on Xbox one because Square does not like the numbers they're seeing Japanese titles are selling too low for them to waste the money on games that won't sell.

For all you know Kingdom Hearts 3 is only on Xbox one because its development started before the generation started.

I mean consider Final Fantasy 7 is not coming to Xbox One
Final Fantasy 12 remaster not coming to Xbox One
Kingdom Hearts Collection clearly is not coming to Xbox One
several Dragon Quest games not coming to Xbox One
I am setsuna not coming to Xbox One World of Final Fantasy not coming to Xbox One Final Fantasy XIV

Sooooo it's very clear they're not wasting their money on an install base that's not moving units.

I mean it makes sense for you because you're basically asking for something with very little education on business, I mean did you even ask how it would benefit them?

It's Microsoft's fault because they failed to even make in audience for Japanese titles. It is not Square Enix job to build an install base of Japanese fans for Microsoft.

I'm pretty positive that's Microsoft job to do that for their publishers.

Sony has a host of their own Japanese developers that make Japanese titles that have always allowed their Community to understand they support these Concepts.

Microsoft has not

I don't even know if Microsoft even has a damn Japanese Studio 😂😂😂

Regardless of your feelings square-enix is a damn business they're going to go where the money goes and at the end of the day if your system is not moving large units and your install base is not purchasing those specific games.

It's completely pointless.

I mean at this point you're begging the publisher to put games on your system with very little logical or even business reason why they should.

It's called BEGGING

Death2885d ago

I fight, but it's an uphill battle. Ignorance isn't something easily fixed.

You claimed Kingdom Hearts wasn't brought to Xbox One because PS4 sales are higher. I informed you Kingdome Hearts 1.5 was released on PS3 at the end of the generation when PS3 and 360 sales were even. Kingdom Hearts 2.5 released at the beginning of this gen. You are basing your conclusions on facts made up in your head. Everything Square is doing is the opposite of what you are saying. Kingdom Hearts 3 is coming to Xbox One which makes very little sense, yet oddly still more than you.

moegooner882885d ago (Edited 2885d ago )

" You claimed Kingdom Hearts wasn't brought to Xbox One because PS4 sales are higher"

That coupled with the fact that Japanese games sell poorly on Xbox. Even at similar install-bases, games sold significantly less.

" You are basing your conclusions on facts made up in your head. Everything Square is doing is the opposite of what you are saying "

Are you trying to make a case against the fact that Japanese games have little appeal to the Xbox userbase ?
As for Square doing the opposite ? Really ? Is that why their mid-tier Japaense developed games like Nier , and World of FF aren't available on Xb1? Bottom line is if Japanese games sold better on Xbox, the remasters would have been brought over. Now with half the install base, it is much less likely to happen. Spin it anyway you want though if it makes you feel better, it is obviously bothering you.

Eonjay2884d ago

You are right about it not making sense and I think that's where the confusion comes from. Square does dumb stuff so even if Microsoft did something its impossible to tell because Square is perfectly capable of doing dumb shit without involving Microsoft so Square has to take the hit here.

_-EDMIX-_2884d ago

Okay so you do understand that PlayStation 3 outsold the 360 not only that but PlayStation 3 have an install base of Gamers that actually purchased Kingdom Hearts

that has nothing to do with both install base numbers are, it has everything to do with the intent to buy.

I mean put it this way since you want to do stupid slow Shortbus logic, does it make sense to make a full-blown AAA Call of Duty on phones just because billions of people have it? So you also think billions of people are going to buy that game?

Having a high install base is completely useless if that install base is also not purchasing your work.

For Square Enix you having 80 million means next to nothing to them if you cannot move units for their Japanese games.

I mean that's probably why you never saw the Yakuza series make it on the Xbox by Sega.

Many people have actually stated that the likely reason behind Kingdom Hearts 3 existing for Xbox one was because its production started for both platforms before the generation started.

It likely means it's cheaper for them to just let Kingdom Hearts 3 release then to cancel what has already been worked on.

I mean Metal Gear Solid 2 onimusha 1 in Silent Hill 2 and 3 released on Xbox but they're sequels All released exclusively on PlayStation 2.

When your game fails to sell on an install base you're not going to come back you're simply going to focus on the install base that's selling your game.

I mean it makes very little sense because you're trying to find a stupid agenda or narrative to answer why it exist on Xbox One when the most simplest reason is likely simply because it started development before they realized how poorly the Xbox one was performing in comparison.

I mean don't you think it's strange that so many games are being announced by square that are not coming to the Xbox One? Ie Nier, Final Fantasy 7 remake Final Fantasy 12 remaster all the Dragon Quest games 😂😂😂

Death2883d ago

@ED,

I don't understand that PS3 outsold 360. It took almost 8 years for PS3 to catch up and at the end of the gen both sat at 80 million. Most people would say sales were tied in the end.

You can't say what Xbox fans would buy if the games never existed for them to choose. Metal Gear 3 released on Xbox by the way. It was MG4 with it's bloated 50 gigs of redundant data even after cuts that didn't make it on Xbox. Ironically the download edition was 9 gigs. MG5 did show up on Xbox One.

You are correct about the rest of the Japanese games you listed. Nowhere to be found on Xbox. I'm not shocked since the install base in Japan is ridiculously small for Xbox. There is probably money hatting by Sony to a degree as well as nationalism to support a Japanese company over an American company as well. Development costs aren't an issue since both consoles are very similar and Square is a large developer. DQH2 is coming to PS3, PS4, Switch and Vita. There is also a rumored PC version in the works.

The short bus crack was uncalled for. If you need to make fun of or put down people with disabilities to prove your point you probably shouldn't post a comment.

_-EDMIX-_2883d ago

@deat-that's nice yet even with how long it took to outsell it those games kep selling better on PlayStation 3 I mean all you're actually telling me is that even with the length of time games sold better on PS3.

Also games not existing on the Xbox have everything to do with their poor performance with previous versions like Metal Gear Solid 2 onimusha 1 what have you.

Why should they keep spending money on systems that are failing to sell their games?

The demand comes before the product

if you don't know that about business don't bother replying, you cannot create fake artificial demand, people have to want it first before it's provided.

Developers do not care how much systems you sold, they care about how much of your audience will buy their damn game.

That's it.

Metal Gear Solid 3 never released for the Xbox...

Metal Gear Solid 3 with ported to the Xbox 360 you could look it up yourself.

Once again Metal Gear Solid 3 was never made for the Xbox!!! I mean do you even have a link to such a claim?

I mean dear God how is anyone to take you seriously when you're literally lying about something?

Smh.

Most companies have no ode to keep releasing content that doesn't sell on a system, it doesn't make any sense and you've failed numerous times to even post how it would even benefit them.

There's going to continue to be a laundry list of games that never touch the Xbox if they continue to ignore the Japanese Market.

Death2883d ago

@ED,

You are going in circles here. You are saying the games don't release on Xbox because they won't sell. You also say I have failed to prove why they should be released. The only problem with your theory is Metal Gear does release on Xbox with the exception of MGS4. Kingdom Hearts 3 which is what this news piece is discussing is also on it's way to Xbox One. I'm not sure how much more "proof" you want since the developers are releasing those games on a system you claim no one wants. If they don't release these games, the amount they will sell on the platform will be zero. Being a third party developer, targeting the Xbox along with PS4 increases the potential customer base.

I'm done trying to discuss this with you, have a great weekend.

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BeOpenMinded2883d ago

Why would you not attempt a release on other platforms unless under the table money was involved. Its simple logic...a port is not hard for the possible millions of sales. They are doing what businesses should do. Expand the audience, the ninja gaiden titles were xbox at first so some of these points are invalid as it pertains to the attractiveness of Japanese games to other console owners. If I owned a gaming comapny the size of square I would be certain to make a small team to dedicate ports to all consoles. It's not hard to grasp why they would want to go multiplatform, gaming companies don't care about fanboy/company allegiances but money. One million in sales would absolutely cover cost of time spent for a port. Common sense

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BadElf2885d ago

So...EVERYONE that owns an Xbox one has NEVER owned a PlayStation system? And has NEVER tried a KH game?

I see. Crazy that you know that

Team_Litt2885d ago

Thank you! I honestly don't understand people who think once a playstation/xbox owner always a playstation/xbox owner. It's ridiculous. There's overlap.

BadElf2885d ago

Yeah, really. Thought that was common knowledge. N4G folks don't show knowledge...ever, it seems.(I mean, look at all the downvotes).
Hmm.

EatCrow2884d ago

Well.... That's the kind of thinking from casual gamers or anti gamers who are only in this for the trolling and silly console war.

modelgod2883d ago

Exactly! I owned a PS2 and still have KH 1 and 2, and I skipped out on the PS3 and 4, and I'm getting KH on the x1. I eventually purchased a OG PS3 to play Okami.

Gamer4life132884d ago

Problem is that not all people that went to 360 have played KH games or beaten them doing the PS2 era. Worst they been more spinoffs that ties in all the games together that were on handhelds that weren't available on consoles until the remixes came to PS3 doing its late console generation. And now they have the complete KH games on PS4 only. That's the issue that not all people that have owned PS2 and switched to Xbox have played or really played any of the KH games. So yes I agree with the article that KH is pretty much dead on arrival on Xbox even if it has Disney characters which people seem to think that Disney alone well do well on Xbox sry but no it's not.

EatCrow2884d ago

The spinoffs aren't hugely important.. Unless you want the whole scoop. I ignored the spinoffs and looking online for the story of the handhelds...dont feel it was necessary.

BeOpenMinded2883d ago

They'll make millions however you spin it on xbox. DOA is a sensationalist headline and not grounded in reality. Of course it will sell more on PS but missing out on those sweet sales even if less is still worth it.. and that is impossible to argue. Porting does not cost millions they will profit with even a half of a million sales. If no project backing or paid exclusivity is present why would you not port....sometimes it's hard to grasp these rationalizations

modelgod2883d ago

I would say the more than a 3rd of the ppl who went from PS2 to 360 played both KH.

goken2884d ago

i actually think KH will do reasonably well on xbo...
i imagine the following scenario
wife: i thought u bought the xbo for the kids? all i see is you playing COD Halo!
husband: see i got them this disney final fantasy hybrid game. it's totally for the kids (doesn't care if they played 1 n 2)

nitus102883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

Of course, you could spin it this way as well.

Wife: I thought you bought the PS4 for the kids.
Husband: I got a whole pile of kid friendly games for them such as Kingdom Hearts 1.5, 2.5 and 3 as well as Knack which I got very cheaply.

Wife: What is that game you are hiding behind you back?
Husband: Bloodborne. But it was cheap and I need to play it to make sure it is kid friendly although for some reason I keep hearing the words "Fear the old blood". 😊

AspiringProGenji2885d ago (Edited 2885d ago )

Having the collection on Xbox doesn't guarantee success either. The collections didn't sell ton as far as I know on PS4, meaning most KH fans had already played the originals and don't want to pay to replay them. On top of that the wait has been too long and interest has been lost (not completely, but still).

KH3 has actually the chance to sell more because it is a new game, long waited, and more modernized than the originals. I'm betting it will have a story recap for them. The success of KH3 may actually bring the collections to Xbox if there's enougj interest, but you know having JRPGs on xbox is a gamble because of the fanbase.

And if Sony gets the marketing deal, that'd be less marketing for it on Xbox. I believeMS should get the deal if they want to bring attention to KH to xbox, but I don't see that happening. KH has been pretty much a PS series so Sony may already have that locked

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