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I think gt sport looks great, played the beta on the og ps4 and it looked and ran fine, just want to get into the game proper now, cant wait.
Well, I would hope GT Sport would look better then GT4 & GT6 which were both on the PS3. If it didn't I would be concerned.
I didnt compare it to any other game in the series, thats what the article is about, i made a comment based on my own experiance with the beta, i get why the article was done but its pointless in the long run, obviously something running on a newer more powerfull machine will look better than previous versions, i just want the game, no game series has had as many of my hours as the gt series.
GT Sport looks fine, Forza looks cartoonish by comparison. Both are going for very different styles. I've started to play Forza Apex on PC, it's fun but I don't get the hype.
"Forza looks cartoonish by comparison." That's what i think about GT. one is a Native 4k/60 and one is not, one has 700 cars and one dose not, one has a lot more and one is still left in 2001, I look back at DC and a lot of you said it was the best looking game, that it's only 30/1080p do to it having dynamic weather/time day, that was a lie and you still hate Forza and now if need to get the games that only come out on the Sony console i will just wait till they come to PC , and then maybe they will look as good as the games coming out on XB1X.
How these facts have something to do with style of the game? How 4K/60 or 700 cars make you love the game mechanics and generally enjoy races ? If you like Forza, that's great but I don't understand how can be your comment relevant with og statement.
4k doesnt change a games engine, it just changes its visual fidelity. Meaning I can have a 4k cartoon racing game, and a 1080p realistic looking racing game.
If I played Mario 64 in 4K/ 60 FPS, it would still be Mario 64. Resolution does nothing for actual graphical fidelity, besides help pick up the details a little better. If a game looks crap, then 4K would just mean its looks like sharp crap. I'm not saying Forza looks like crap, but the 4K argument is incredibly stupid, especially considering 1) you've yet to play it in 4K, and 2) Forza is a franchise notorious for downgrading. That PC footage from E3 doesn't have me convinced at all until I actually see it in person on an in-home 4K display.
One uses a dated bloom technology (forza) while gt aims for photorealism
Most of you here played DC and said it was better! How did that workout for you? It's not, GT is crap and has been for years. GT after all these years still can't match Forza. stop It just stop it . You have to say it looks cartoonish do to it's all you have left. You can't say it's 900p or 1080cp or 1800cp. you can't say it's only got 12 cars on track. you can't say no dynamic weather/time day. All you have is it looks bad to me! Sony is selling you a game that is last gen at best. After this game dies (that's why Sony didn't show it at E3 on stage) like DC did then you will say " well GT is better do to it coming out every 4 years. If Sony knows it sucks why don't you?
I didnt realize it was a GT Sports vs Forza comparison.
It always turns into this. Welcome to the internet.
Yeah.. this article was comparing GT Sport to GT6 /GT4. Not sure how Forza 7 got involved. Forza 7 doesn't look cartoonish at all. https://cdn2.techadvisor.co... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/c1hN... https://news.xbox.com/wp-co...
Coming from someone who has seen both FM7 (on X) and GTS (on Pro) in HDR on a LG 4K OLED, it's the exact opposite for me. GTS looks like the one with higher color saturation which makes it look more cartoony.
The jaggies are quite apparnet as well on GT Sport. Needless to say I don't want to see any screenshots, only gameplay. It's a well known fact screenshots are supersampled as well as replay mode. I think it's kind of embarassing how long Polyphony takes and still has less content.
Moldy i still aint seen you bring this point up for forza or any of the other racing games you comment on, all racing games add effects to photo mode and replay mode, forza included, supersampled though are you sure🤔 🤔🤔 because i dont think thats true.
@moldybread - jaggies aren't half as bad as the pop in.
FH3 and FM6 def have a high contrast look that makes it look cartoonish, but FM7 is using a upgraded lighting engine and it looks phenomenal. Def don't see where anyone could say GT looks better, as FM7 is not only technologically more advanced, but also boosts higher fidelity ( 4K vs 1800p c)
Bruh6h ago FH3 and FM6 def have a high contrast look that makes it look cartoonish, but FM7 is using a upgraded lighting engine and it looks phenomenal. Def don't see where anyone could say GT looks better, as FM7 is not only technologically more advanced, but also boosts higher fidelity ( 4K vs 1800p c) ============================= Lies.. Unlike the Forza POS, GT Sports http://www.gran-turismo.com... ============================= = Wide Colour ・Colour space increased by 64% from sRGB. ・10nm scale spectroscopic measurement. (Measurement of the spectral base.) ・Full wide colour space workflow using BT.2020 at all stages of production, from data capture, materials creation, rendering to output. ============================= ===== from the ground up has used the Wide Colourspace which is 12-16bit per sample, it also uses the INDUSTRY standard BT 2020, which requires HDMI 2 and above [Xbone is only 1.4 like the PS 3] and BT 2020 only has 2x NATIVE resolutions.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... ============================= ===== Resolution Rec. 2020 defines two resolutions of 3840 × 2160 ("4K") and 7680 × 4320 ("8K"). These resolutions have an aspect ratio of 16:9 and use square pixels. Frame rate Rec. 2020 specifies the following frame rates: 120p, 119.88p, 100p, 60p, 59.94p, 50p, 30p, 29.97p, 25p, 24p, 23.976p. Only progressive scan frame rates are allowed. Digital representation Rec. 2020 defines a bit depth of either 10-bits per sample or 12-bits per sample ============================= ===== Which are 4K or 8K UHD in other words Bubba a 2x2 checkerboard matrix to keep the 16:9 aspect ratio of HDTV 1920x1080 x2x2 = 3840x2160 x2x2 = 7680x4320
@ Ding Sigh... 1. " Lies" where did I lie? To change from a baked to a dynamic lighting system you need to overhaul your entire lighting engine, which Turn 10 did as FM7 featured a fully dynamic lighting system. 2. Wide Color Gamut support in correlation to HDR mastered titles is also in FM7, reaching BT 2020 isn't anything monumental in fact most HDR 10 titles going forward will aim for it, since UHD certified TVs have that has a standard. Though GT does support far higher peak luminosity, which is really nice to see. 3. Now lets actually dig into the tech of both games, everything you talked about was mostly HDR mastering items and not really related to the game engine technology. Not to mention the only area you've shown with an edge for GT is higher peak luminosity. FM7 features a fully dynamic lighting model, which already makes it more advanced than GTS's baked lighting system, both are physically based too and neither are dynamic GI solutions, so there basically on far from a rendering level but FM7 is a step ahead with it being fully dynamic. Environments...FM7 utilized photogrammetry to recreate photorealistic textures for rocks, trees and other natural model pieces around tracks, GTS doesn't come close to this. FM7 also incorporates fully dynamic weather and track system, GT has weather I believe but its pre-set and non-changeable during driving. So with all that being said who in living hell is GTS more advanced? lol Would love to hear your arm chair engineering mind, I'm a software engineer by day, but never hurts to learn from the crowd on N4G :)
Bruh4h ago @ Ding Sigh... 1. " Lies" where did I lie? To change from a baked to a dynamic lighting system you need to overhaul your entire lighting engine, which Turn 10 did as FM7 featured a fully dynamic lighting system. ============================= ===== BS kid they are using the SAME engine they have used this entire generation, what they showed running on the PC was upgraded Apex graphics. This is the FIRST Gran Turismo of this generation Bubba.. What part of ============================== ======= ・Full wide colour space workflow using BT.2020 at all stages of production, from data capture, materials creation, rendering to output. ============================== ======== using BT 2020 at all stages of production and ============================= ==== Resolution Rec. 2020 defines two resolutions of 3840 × 2160 ("4K") and 7680 × 4320 ("8K"). These resolutions have an aspect ratio of 16:9 and use square pixels. ============================= ==== is it that's giving you trouble junior?? Where you LIED ============================= ========= as FM7 is not only technologically more advanced, but also boosts higher fidelity ( 4K vs 1800p c) ============================= ======= you said GT Sports was only 1800p which is a PATENT LIE as BT2020 only has 2 NATIVE resolution. ============================= ========= 2. Wide Color Gamut support in correlation to HDR mastered titles is also in FM7, reaching BT 2020 isn't anything monumental in fact most HDR 10 titles going forward will aim for it, since UHD certified TVs have that has a standard. Though GT does support far higher peak luminosity, which is really nice to see. ============================= =========== Wide colour is 8K pallete HDR 10 is only 10bit whereas BT 2020 supports 10 AND 12 bit as I pointed out.. ============================= == Digital representation Rec. 2020 defines a bit depth of either 10-bits per sample or 12-bits per sample ============================= == Wide colour uses the 12-16bit pallette and HDR gets relegated to contrast/ brightness/."nits" IE... https://www.youtube.com/wat... 4K for definition, HDR for Lighting, Wide colour for depth. ============================= == 3. Now lets actually dig into the tech of both games, everything you talked about was mostly HDR mastering items and not really related to the game engine technology. ============================= === Liar. BT 2020 refers to resolution 4K/8K framerates from 24 -120FPS and 10 and 12 bit samples, if you had had the intelligence to click on the link [mummy not in kid??] you would see that it is an INDUSTRY STANDARD for all things even Hybrid Log Gamma, which is the new BROADCASTING standard for 4K/Widecolour/HDR http://www.4kshooters.net/2... ============================= == Sony FS5 to Get BT.2020 and Hybrid Log-Gamma via HDR Update in July Ogy Stoilov March 27, 2017 ============================= == Getting it yet kid?? Its the NATIVE standard for Cameras/ TVs everything.
Time of day and weather is not dynamic, but the actual lighting is, confirmed in one of the first interviews kaz did, quick to shout at people for maybe not being as techy as you yet half your info is wrong too😂
@Ding https://www.youtube.com/wat... 1800p checkerboard, but keep trying You're literally arguing the same thing, those are all points related to HDR mastering, has nothing to do with the actual graphics functionality of the game engine. Anyways you're delusional AF, trying to argue with you is like yelling at a wall. @Ret Guess I should've been more clear, the light sources are dynamic since its physically based, but the actual lighting method itself is not, since GT pre-loads lighting settings based on what time of day you set before the race. This isn't anything innovative dynamic lighting has been a marketing con since COD: Ghosts lol, guess I should more say real time dynamic lighting to be more accurate, but its sad GT doesn't incorporate as both PC2 and FM7 have them
You mean the time of day is not dynamic, as in no shifting of light sources and hues etc, the light sources themselfs are dynamic though....so the game has dynamic lighting just not dynamic shifts, and i do agree that the dynamic time and weather being cut is a dissapointment to me as i like the features, but the fact that you can choose both options before hand really does take the sting out, to me its not a big deal, im more excited about what form the concepts are going to take, the challange of trying to earn my real life race licence, online cups and tournaments with real prizes, the fia partnership alone is amazing, i dont care if the game is 4k or 1080p, or even if its got the most eye candy, its all about gts driving model, its good with a controller waaaay better with a wheel.
Cartoonish? What a nonsense!
Comparing GTS against the emulated, upscaled version is interesting I suppose. If nothing else it shows there is more to making a pretty game than higher resolution.
Wow GT6 still looks great.
And the Forza talk continues in a non Forza topic. Amazing. I honestly don't understand the purpose of this comparison. Of course GTS should show an improvement...we are talking about a couple generations difference in some cases. I would be worried if it didn't. However, other than a little more foliage, it's nothing too crazy here. Better textures and lighting, also better trackside detail due to better GPU, but still using 2D trees. It looks good, but nothing special imo.
"And the Forza talk continues in a non Forza topic. Amazing." Which you contribute to hypocrite. Amazing.
Little Big Planet.
Its a great looking game, I'm happy to see that PD seems to be continually improving the graphics with each build, so I'm excited to see the final product
wow the sony fanboys out in full force and it's not even an Xbox related article
You have it mixed up.
Impressive visual differences? Quite the opposite. 2000: PS2 2005/6: PS3 2013: PS4 2000-2013 = a lot of time. Meanwhile: 1994-2000 (6,5 years) we had this: http://prntscr.com/fxumtt 2x less time, and much, much bigger difference. How about something closer to this? OK, let's not be cruel, let's go 10 years, instead of 13. 10 years before PS2 which brought us WRC, GT3 and Burnout 2 levels of graphics, best graphics you could see was this: http://prntscr.com/fxunnd I don't know if this is just a lack of knowledge or clickbait, but this is closer to disappointing than "impressive".
LOL!! That looked like the old Test Drive game on PC. I had that game. That was back in the late 80's wasn't it?
It will be fun to read the comments after both racers are in stores and see wich got bigger impact. Some here dont know what gt means in gaming world, what a bundle with gt will sell. The millions that this year will be playing it.
Let's see if the AI is also significantly better .....
Uh water is wet too. HAY LETS COMPARE THREE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS
Forza = casuals gt = advanced racing project cars & assetto corsa = SIM. All the people that complained about driving in project cars were forza advocates.
A PS4 Pro game looks better than a PS2 game? No way! How does Sony do it?!
Most people will be on GT I'd say forza is on decline looking at vgchartz. It's true forza has a more toonish look where as GT looks more realistic. Can't wait for GTS day one buy for me. Still forza is a good buy just not as popular as GT
GT has and always will be more popular. Forza has been better since Forza 3. It's still King at this point. Even if GT Sport sells a billion copies, it won't mean it's a better game. Just a more popular game. McDonalds sells billions of burgers, but it definitely doesn't have the best burger in the world. There are better burgers on Food Trucks. lol!!
GT6 held up pretty good tbh, I think this game got alot of flak during the release/post release but graphically it's not too bad, especially for a PS3 game seeing that it's 10x less powerful than current gen games.
The Great (or not so great) debate of Forza vs GT... It would be nice if gamers just enjoyed their games 😉
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