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No Way Anthem Looks This Great At Launch, Downgrade Imminent

Gaming Central wasn't the only one blown away by how amazing Anthem's trailer looked the Microsoft Press Conference during E3 2017. However, the game looks poised for an imminent downgrade. Even with Bioware’s experience with the Frostbite engine, the trailer looked heavily directed and tailored to show the game at its best.

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ZaWarudo2481d ago

lol of course. It was so scripted.

UCForce2481d ago

Ah, the voice chatting was so scripted.

dirkdady2480d ago

I get the feeling bioware went overboard with anthem reveal trailer to try to reset the negative stigma with the studio name from Andromeda regardless of the fact the two games are worked on by different teams

4Sh0w2480d ago (Edited 2480d ago )

Always said it was the best looking game of the show, downgrade talk just confirms my eyes never lie.

Yep, Anthem gonna looking f-ing sick in 4K on X1X, so I will be following this game until I can get my copy.

Allsystemgamer2480d ago

A creed looked like an actual game. Anthem looked FAR too smooth to be a bioware title that was playable and TBH it looked kinda boring. Destiny with ironman suits. Yay.

bluefox7552479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

Assassin's Creed looked good, but it looked plausible on current gen consoles (and there is the rub, it has to run on current gen consoles as well and won't look much different). Anthem did not. Perhaps if it was a PC only game, they could achieve that, but it isn't. They showed a highly scripted, vertical slice, of course it's going to be downgaded, lol.

4Sh0w2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

-It was running on X1X and again it was not even *native 4K yet it was the most impressive looking game at E3:

"It's these imperfections that help to make Anthem's E3 2017 showing that much more authentic, more real, and less likely to end in another downgrade drama." -Digital Foundry
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-Anything's possible but DF saw no reason to expect a downgrade, PLUS remember this was prior to the extra 1GB of Ram now available, also further refinements of the hardware/software prior to production and of course still quite awhile left in development.

ProjectVulcan2479d ago

It'll look like that. On PC.

Consoles however remain to be seen. Various states of downgrade depending on the hardware.

UnHoly_One2479d ago

I'm so sick of the word "downgrade".

When did this even become a thing?? And who cares.

A year and half from now when I get to play the game, I'm not going to watch this trailer over to compare and see if it looks the same, I'm going to enjoy what I have in front of me and never notice anything different until I read a stupid headline like this one.

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Krussail2481d ago

@ucforce - I don't think Ubisoft is pulling a downgrade anytime soon..say what you want about Wildlands, that game looks insanely pretty

UCForce2481d ago

I haven't played Wildlands. So I can't make a judgement on it. But from what I seen, it's looking good.

dmetripaulpavlin2480d ago

You are wrong Wildlands was downgraded.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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But none of that matters because of people like to pretend and commit entirely so they don't have to admit what they love was sold to them on a lie.

zerocarnage2479d ago

I got wildlands and no downgrade happening on that it plays awsome, can imagine that on X1X They said the division had a downgrade and it was a load of bull crap.

I don't call making a few adjustments a downgrade so the game runs more smoothly, then further down the line ramp it all up again, which is what really happened on the division.

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danny8182480d ago

really i thought it was a recording of real life

XStation4pio_Pro2480d ago

Of course. It's a presentation. It's basically a commercial. You can't just get up there and talk out of your ass. I was at e3. Anthem was running in realtime. https://youtu.be/WVosxnfN_h... They talked about it frequently.

XanderZane2479d ago

It'll still be one of the best looking games on a game console when it launches. Developers haven't even come close to tapping the power of these mid-gen systems yet.

LP-Eleven2479d ago

Finally I agree with you on something! :P

RegorL2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

So Bioware scripted less than optimal gameplay? Notice how first shot misses in this sequence.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Later when determining if this was downgraded please
- Run on XBox One X, as this was claimed to be recorded running on it.
* It will be downgraded on the XBox One S, no need to this with running on that.
* It will even be downgraded on the PS4 Slim.
Frostbite does that, optimize assets to fit the performance profile of each console. Nothing to see here...

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EatCrow2480d ago (Edited 2480d ago )

Religion at its core is simply a belief in X,Y and Z.

Certain fans do turn console preference into a religion thats for sure. How dare thou insult my console!
Blasphemy!

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pinkcrocodile752480d ago

The Value of X is unknown however the power of Xbox One X is known and is real. So it's just down to how well the game is optimised for XOX.

The article is scare mongering with no facts on the game itself. So the author can kiss my halo

pinkcrocodile752479d ago

@GNCFLYER He is very busy right now. But things are good. Thanks for asking :D

Godmars2902480d ago

Not about "X" but Ubisoft. And Ubisoft has just about always downgraded big AAA releases across all platforms. All platforms.

How come its only about Xbox with you?

freshslicepizza2480d ago

@Godmars290
"How come its only about Xbox with you?"

When you start to be more positive then maybe I will answer that. Anthem looks great by the way and some Ubisoft games I really enjoy, such as Rainbow Six and some Far Cry games. The new Crew 2 is looking pretty fun too.

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rainslacker2480d ago

"How come its only about Xbox with you?"

Because he's a PC gamer as he claims. Obviously he's going to be all about Xbox because of that.

Godmars2902480d ago

@ImGumbyDammit:
Almost surprised someone noticed that brain-fart. Just saw "downgrade" and couldn't get the king of it out of my head. But yes, even if EA isn't 100% guilty of doing such, expecting the game to suffer graphical and content issues across all platforms.

@moldy:
We both know the reason you can't offer a valid response is because MS gives few and far between positive examples of their own hype.

The issue here is that Ubi - EA! - is likely going to make this into a turd, and the best the X1X will be able to do, like every other system, is polish it.

freshslicepizza2479d ago

"We both know the reason you can't offer a valid response is because MS gives few and far between positive examples of their own hype."

Well you even go off on a tangent about Xbox Live and the terrible people online in threads about the power of the XB1X. It's pretty clear you are done with MS every angle possible.

" The issue here is that Ubi - EA! - is likely going to make this into a turd, and the best the X1X will be able to do, like every other system, is polish it"

Maybe, maybe not. Anthem could very well be what many of us wanted out of Destiny.

Godmars2902479d ago

"Anthem could very well be what many of us wanted out of Destiny."

Or, like Destiny, it could be yet another example of overhype and consumer exploitation. The initial release gutted, not that any lore has been introduce, with it being filled in later along with bug fixes and graphic upgrades which still wont live up to the launch trailer. All while hardened fans defend them.

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SpaceRanger2480d ago

Isn't PC more powerful? You just posted that you have a PC, so why would you downgrade yourself?

Besides, this has "The Division" written all over it.

Bigpappy2480d ago

Oh not again. Just because you own a PC don't mean you will have the best version. Some PC struggle with Minecraft, lol.

SpaceRanger2479d ago

"Just because you own a PC don't mean you will have the best version. "

Damn, you calling Moldy out on his PC setup? I'm sure he atleast set up a rig that can perform well. No need to downplay it @Bigpappy.

gangsta_red2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

Where did Moldy say he was going to get Anthem for Xbox?

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freshslicepizza2479d ago

The best place to play games like Red Dead Redemption 2 will be on the Xbox One X though, same with many sports games I enjoy. Will I get an Xbox One X for those games? Who knows, actually thinking of a Nintendo Switch instead but we'll see.

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Ceaser98573612480d ago

"The power of the X is real"

Check board real you mean :P

Just kidding, its surely a beast will pick up one at launch :)

SunnyZ2480d ago

Must be the power off all those clouds MS is using xD

Remember when that was a thing? LOL!

Kribwalker2479d ago

Still is a thing. You will see it nov 7 with crackdown 3

GNCFLYER2479d ago

So is your desire to get down voted daily.

Thought you were PC.

DarXyde2479d ago

No one doubts it's powerful hardware.

The odds of BioWare getting this level of performance out of it? Unlikely, and I said as much after the conference. There are certain studios you should not trust to put out an honest product vision for, period. BioWare is one such studio.

Kribwalker2479d ago

You do realize it's running on the OneX when this video was made

DarXyde2479d ago

Kribwalker,

Maybe. Allegedly. I definitely don't think the visuals and performance will remain the same at launch though.

It remains to be seen. Will it stay checkerboard 4k or will it push for native at the cost of performance in some areas? I don't know, but I wholly believe we were treated to a vision of the final product, not a definitive taste of it. Development is messy and I feel compromises will be made.

Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.

LP-Eleven2479d ago

More like the PC, since that is where it is being built and will look the best.

Eilers2479d ago

At first I thought it was sarcasm, then I realize it was moldy...

DialgaMarine2479d ago

I can't stop sneezing. I'm super allergic to bullshit.

SpaceRanger2479d ago

"The best place to play..."

The best place to play has been and currently is Sony in quality of third party games. Now it matters? You're on PC, so isn't an Xbox One X below you??

There really would be no point in buying an Xbox One X if you have a PC. There's no way to deny that with MS putting all its games on PC.

NXFather2479d ago

Even so it won't be ennnnnooooouuughhhh! I kidding. =)

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lociefer2480d ago

Na, Frostbite engine is capable, just take a look at andromeda.
Its just a question of will the game be good ? Again , look at andromeda, a terrible game that was partially saved by the engine.

Teflon022480d ago

Battlefront 2 is that good graphically and runs 60fps. Battlefield 1 looks that great and runs 60fps. From what I expect anthem is 30 so I expect they can pull it off. Especially since imo Battlefront 2 looks better graphically. Not by much though and it could be because dice the frostbite creators are behind star wars

Iloveherliezz2480d ago

First off Andromeda wasn't terrible. You and all your friends who didn't play it are. Second, it was a different studio not the studio that made the trilogy. Third, what the Fuck are you smoking my dude? Pass that shit my way!

Npugz72480d ago

I did play it and it was garbage! Could have been a last gen game and it wasn't even close to being as good as the other ME games.

Allsystemgamer2480d ago

Andromeda was bad. You do the exact same crap over and over again. The dialogue was atrocious.

Who the hell thought it was a good idea to turn mass effect into a teen drama in space with spacen drake delightfully leading his band of people, who seemingly don't care about a genocide, on a grand adventure to open and empty worlds?

Animations - bad
Story - bad
Voice acting - bad (now we know female krogans sound like gay men)
Graphics - great on everything but the people
Bugs - galore
Dialogue- bad

zerocarnage2479d ago

How'd you know him and his friends didn't play it, are you in stalker mode by any chance lol.

lociefer2479d ago

I'm smoking reality, maybe u should try it once instead of worshipping any game that bioware throws at us despite them being crap.

I did play andromeda and the game was crap story-wise and missions wise. I dont give a rat's behind about graphics when playing mass effects. They didnt even try, period.

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zivtheawesome2480d ago

well actually andromeda was downgraded since it's first showing.

zerocarnage2479d ago

Now that may of happened, was obvious it was a rush job for Anthem.

Darkfist_Flames2480d ago

after watchdogs, destiny, and the division, people are stupid for still getting hyped over those kind of videos, at least games like monster hunter world would look and play the same at launch.

ForeverTheGoat2480d ago

Notice how 2 of the games you named is from Ubisoft and the other from activision. Those 2 companies are known for that. Bio ware is different

Veneno2480d ago

Yes they are different in that their fans put them on such a high pedestal that they are blind to all short comings and the obvious downgrade that is coming for this game.

fenome2480d ago

Yeah, but Bioware got picked up by EA for this so people have every right to be cautious about it.

Allsystemgamer2480d ago

And what buoware described MEA to be was not what we got now was it?

ForeverTheGoat2479d ago

@fenome
Yes they did get picked up by EA but when have there been an EA game that didn't look good graphically speaking. Battlefront, Battlefield, Mass Effect, and their sports games have all been good for the most part graphically. Now as overall game that's a different story.

Dragonscale2479d ago

Its not bioware you should be worried about. After the ME debacle I wouldn't get my hopes up.

fenome2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

@ForeverTheGoat

I do agree, but I'm not just talking about graphics. I'm more concerned with what kind of business tactics EA wants to implement into and how they are handled. EA has already gone on record about a "10 year plan" they have for this game. It just seems like they might try to take more like Destiny rather than creating their own identity through the franchise.

Who knows though this is all just speculation. I hope they really keep it true to their vision because what I saw was a beautiful world I want to explore with badass customisations on switchable mech suits.

It's reveal was game of the show for me, but I'm not one to just hop on that hype train. Plus after reading more and more about it I'm just looking forward to see more about it and where they're going with it.

Honestly I hope they freaking nail it out of the park and it's exactly what they've made it out to be. This is the kind of game I could dump 100s if not 1000s of hours into if it's done right.

Mirdus2479d ago

@Dragonscale Different Bioware developed MEA

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Thunder_G0d_Bane2480d ago

At least Destiny is a better game than every other game you mentioned.

Bioware cant be trusted with Anthem, see Dragon Age 2, Inquisition and Andromeda. Oh and Star Wars The Old Republic... The list is grim.

Chexs19902480d ago

I'm pretty sure Inquisition won a couple of GOTY awards bruh. Anyway, it wasn't as good as Origins but I thought it was good :D

Thunder_G0d_Bane2480d ago

@Chexs, it won goty in a year where NO games came out. Witcher was delayed into the next year, if Witcher 3 came out on its original date, inquisition would have been a laughing stock. No one talks about Inquisiton today when they talk on best games this gen.

Its a Bioware game, how comes? Inquisition should still be in peoples mouths but it aint lool and thats for a good reason.

InTheZoneAC2480d ago

We already know Destiny 2 won't have dedicated servers for PVP, 60FPS for PVP, weapon balance, consistent updates. We do know that PVP was nerfed to a snoozefest in terms of abilities, melee hits to kill and overall time to kill. Every raid will be trash compared to Vault of Glass, getting a cool looking weapon means nothing as it will either be average or suck, like 90% of the weapons in D1.

Thunder_G0d_Bane2480d ago

@InTheZoneAc, Wow been sipping that haterade thoroughly ey bro. looool I feel sorry for you simpletons, I'll be playing Destiny 2 at 144fps on my PC so i'm fine it looks like a whole-nother game on PC :)

Destiny has a bigger following than most the games you like and i bet thats why you're sore.

zerocarnage2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

Destiny you can put that game on the junk pile, or give me the disc it be gettin frizbied down the street, I'll use it as a batarang.

And that goes for the second game which I refuse to touch, Activision are a publisher I religiously avoid and bungie are just as bad now.

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madforaday2480d ago

You also named 3 games that have a combined sales of roughly 13 million copies and that is only taking Watch Dogs 2 sales and not one. The fact is that people will play a game if it is fun. Of course, when a game isn't out yet all we can talk about is what it looks like because that is the only thing we can do. When a games does come out and it is downgraded but yet still fun people will fork over the money as we seen in all of the games you mentioned. For the last two generations we been all focused on what a game looks like and that has NOTHING to do with the actually game play. The game play is the sole reason on why we keep playing a certain game.

zerocarnage2479d ago (Edited 2479d ago )

The idjiots will still shout downgrade on monster hunter world too, at some point.

I guess exclusives gone out the window now it's downgrade season excuses.

Peeps always be needing to see something that's not there most of the time.

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ONESHOTV22480d ago

Corrections no way it would look this good on current gen console's well i hope it not down graded to hell because of the consoles.

Krussail2480d ago

Current gen consoles (base ones) will probably lead to the downgrade

WilliamSheridan2480d ago

It'll look great on Xbox One X. This was in engine footage running on an SDK. It'll look great.

Braveheart_NZ2480d ago

And the final SDK before launch wont be released until around October. Also, a thing to remember is that none of the games shown at E3 for the Xbox One X, including this one, had been using the extra 1 Gig of ram that has now been freed up for developers to use, giving a full 9 Gigs of ram instead of 8 gigs.

rainslacker2480d ago

An SDK can run at the full power of any computer it's on. Without knowing if it was spec'd to match the X1X, one can't say how it'll perform.

But, I'd imagine that X1X can at least get pretty close.

Most games are downgraded between their first showing and release. A few here and there get visual upgrades. What's it matter though? If the game is good, then it probably won't look massively different on it's final release, and often with these things, people nitpick too much over the small things.

4Sh0w2479d ago

rainslacker,
"Without knowing if it was spec'd to match the X1X, one can't say how it'll perform."

-Well of course we never know how a game will perform throughout the whole game until of course it's released but this vertical slice of Anthem wasn't running on a pc, it looked so good at first even DF had their doubts, but they confirmed it was running on X1X:

"And clearly, with so much going on from a visual perspective, something must give in a real-time rendering scenario. On first viewing, Anthem has a visual impact that makes you wonder if we're in fact looking at a PC version running on max settings"

"It's these imperfections that help to make Anthem's E3 2017 showing that much more authentic, more real, and less likely to end in another downgrade drama. A forensic breakdown of Anthem's visual make-up takes little away from the tremendous impact of the game's visuals, nor from the scale and scope of the remarkably rich, massive vertical world the title is built around. The Frostbite engine once again pushes console visuals to new heights, but what we've seen does point to this being feasible on Xbox One X hardware, with compromises you'd expect to get this running on a six teraflop GPU at a 2160p output."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"In a previous version of this article, we stated that it wasn't clear what hardware this demo was running on - in fact, EA's Patrick Soderlund does confirm that it is a real-time Xbox One X demonstration. Many apologies for the error, we will have a deeper look at the demo very soon, but we can confirm 2160p checkerboarding from our tests - something that would be unlikely on PC and very much in line with Frostbite's console technologies."
http://www.gamepur.com/news...

-Keep in mind X1X continues to be further optomized and Microsoft has already freed up another 1GB of ram since the footage we saw at E3, plus of course the game is slated for 2018, likey late 2018. Given all that I don't see why it will be downgraded but if so I think it will be negligible.

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MrCrabPuss2479d ago

Build a PC then, and forever cast off the dead weight that is restrictive semi-obsolete consoles.

ONESHOTV22479d ago

Mrcrabpuss---- yeah i have no problem because i have strix 1080ti paired with 16GB ram and an i7 4790k but what I'm saying is that games get massive downgrades because of underpowered hardware in today's consoles look at the Witcher 3 E3 trailer compared to the retail released it was seriously downgraded, but any way it's ok we have a community filled with modders.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere16h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN13h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos11h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN4h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo5h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger13h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto15h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel14h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator13h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H91d 9h ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg17h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos16h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola11h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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