@starboy11 so you started your sentence saying "not sure" if there is a reason to buy a console, then follow that with a valid reason (exclusives). Dude, you cant even support your own argument lol..
I use Xbox for multi platform games because Live is so superior. I use my Pro for exclusives. HZD is great although I'm struggling to finish it. Same with Uncharted. I think I've hit fatigue level with Uncharted. Both are amazing games thought. Sony has the single player experience locked down. MS has the online multiplayer experience perfected though. Plus I still prefer MS controller. Both great systems though, so save the down votes for something important...
This article is full of hiprocrasy for instance it complains you have to wait and download and install games. Guess what I have to do all that with the pc PLUS a bag of chips. For instance My steam takes forever to wait on it to update itself every time I sign on to my pc. I have to also download game fixes for games, or for games on steam, and I have to keep checking to see if there is a fix for the game just suddenly crashing ( and no it does not save before chrashing). Consoles are not exspensive compared to PC including the x1x they used as an example. I have a 2 thousand dollar gaming laptop that hardly gets used. Yes consoles lost some advantage because of day one fixes. But PC needs the day one fixes too! soooooo.
This article is idiotic, more like that is the point of dedicated portable gaming devices? Outside out Japan most people play their portable gaming devices at home.. so whats the point of the portability? Isn't much more than a gimmick. Not to mention mobile gaming is mainly done on phones, but phones aren't a dedicated gaming platform anyway and that is mainly why it is so popular, it's multipurpose. It really wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo's next console is a phone the size of maybe the Iphone plus or galaxy note and you can slide controllers into the side just like the switch. It would be a gaming focused phone, now I know this has already been done before but not by Nintendo.
Console will have a stake in this market for a long time unless consoles become branded PCs The convenience and brand recognition is to strong plus think about this globally. Not just in your countries and territories. Not to mention the actual console benefits devs do get from console. Console isn't going anywhere in a console to PC to console convert
Nintendo and Sony are creating the point by making many great exclusives, for Xbox there relay is no point anymore since all games including exclusives are coming to PC.
PC has games I want to play that aren't on consoles. Not to mention there are so many games in general on the PC. The PC shares exclusives with both the PS4 and XB1, as well as having PC exclusives and all the multiplatform games. No other platform lets me play such a wide range of games.
visuals and framerates sure but nexusmods.com FTW. I'm playing Fallout New Vegas again and nexusmods makes it look like a new game and the modders have added amazing things. My PC is at my desk with an hdmi cable running to my TV system. Plug in a controller and you have the couch experience of a console with the flexibility of a PC. Sometimes just widening the FOV make a world of difference. .
Umm, the best exclusives. The fact that you know every game is gonna actually work. Less cheating. This article is horse manure. And PC gamers wonder why they're stereotyped as pompous assholes.
"Best exclusives" isn't a fact though, that's entirely up to each individual. As far as games actually working go, this has been the worst console generation for crashes, game-breaking bugs, unfinished games, etc.
As for cheating, sure, it's definitely easier on PC but not as common as you'd think.
Solid, reviews are opinions. It's perfectly fine to have the opinion that exclusives are better on consoles. However, stating it as a fact is not. Opinions and facts are entirely different. I prefer the exclusives from Sony and Nintendo, over almost anything on PC, but that's just an opinion.
Anyone talking logic on this forum gets downvoted. Nevertheless we need to continue doing our part in the hopes of a future where people can have a rational discussion here. Its just people that dont know anything that keep flinging shit at eachother, and even shittalk their own console's fellow owners that dare criticize it .
Best exclusives are entirely subjective and a part of the argument of the article focuses on exclusives. I think its trying to say that Consoles have become basically prebuilt PCs
PCs have been used for gaming for a long long time. Consoles came out to make that easier and more accessible to people.
Not sure what you're talking about. PCs have always allowed gaming and other media. Consoles started allowing other media around the time the Xbox came out i think.
Emulators, mods, costumization, choice of imput devices, 60+ fps, true 4k, free online, cheaper games, more features, BC with all pc games. All you need to know is that consoles are closed platorms controlled by the platform holders and PCs are open platforms to know that PCs offer a diiferent experience than consoles do so "basically" my ass.
"PC's are getting quicker at starting up" "smaller form factors"
What does this have to do with consoles?
"Steam Controller" PCs have gamepads since early 90s
"can be plugged into a TV's hdmi." Consoles can be plugged to monitors, so what?
Problem is, the article doesn't even talk about which one is better. It's about how consoles can improve instead of trying to be PC's. And even those exclusives aren't really that big, or what? Are you going to tell me that Cuphead is something we should celebrate and fangasm over?
Every game is gonna work? Lol. Go tell that to AC Unity, Fallout 4, and Borderlands the Pre-Sequel. Not to mention things like the sometimes dismal cross console ports (like say, Bayonetta and Dragon's Dogma.) Games that can be fixed, often within hours, on PC via mods.
Best Exclusives? Have you even played 1% of the sheer volume of PC exclusives? I'm going to assume the answer is no, and ask you how you would know then? What you mean is the exclusives with the biggest marketing pushes from console manufacturers. Have you played Tyranny? Have you played S.T.A.L.K.E.R.? Have you played Guild Wars 2? Have you played Civilization 6? CS:GO? Dota 2? Are you interested in Divinity Original Sin 2 or BattleTech? Then you don't really know how good they are do you?
These are just some of the higher profile/relatively recent examples btw, there are plenty of excellent games that are lower profile and/or older. If I were to just list everything I'd be here literally all day just typing, even if I excluded the flood of Steam Greenlight asset flip garbage.
I'm glad you think so. If it's so obvious you shouldn't have any trouble explaining why. I'm an idiot see, so I don't already know and I'd like you to justify your claim.
Don't bother. Console only gamers are narrow minded. Especially if you add in brand loyalty.
Practically every mmo out there is a pc exclusive. And they're a tremendously good time with friends. Then you have things like starcraft and tons of Diablo esque games that were and most still are exclusives. Then you have a ton of other games that many many years later are finally making it to consoles.
On the other hand you have Xbox and Ps4 games showing up in one way or another on pc so it's a win win for pc gamers.
LOL! As if I haven't been on Steam before. I've seen their offerings. Noticed A LOT of console games on the top selling list. The rest? Mmos and mobas. Not impressed.
WHAT? You mean to tell me that AAA multiplats with multi-million dollar marketing campaigns tend to sell better than PC excluives of any production value without said campaigns!? I'm shocked!! Shocked I say!
Man, agreed. I remember buying Star Wars - The Old Republic to play on my PC a few years ago. I figured I'd give another go at an MMO a try. No matter what i did after installing it simply would not load. Uninstall, reinstall go over all of the forums. I knew before I bought the game that I had well over the requirements. I've been building and troubleshooting PC's and electronics and software most of my life. I can usually solve any PC or tech based problem with enough research, but this time it just simply would not work. Something some bad interaction between something I had installed previously and the game just wouldn't make it work. No body had an answer for this problem, and the only option that it came down to in the end was a clean install. Hell no I wasn't doing that so i wasted the money on the game and never got to play it. This although a rare occurrence just wouldn't happen on a console. The game would just play.
Same here I tried the steam demo of shogun total war loved it bought the game and the thing would just not run, flash bios, new gpu and read every forum but still refused to run even though the demo still ran... 3 years later I just clicked on it in steam library. And boom it ran that's just pc gaming
Wow. That's a shame. The best experience I've had of an mmo was in fact the old republic... Real shame you couldn't get it to play.
The Flashpoints were all pretty awesome and the first raid I did the most memorable raid in my life. Don't get me started with me and my pro owning the entire server in pvp. Such good times.
If you support games to be hostaged on a platform you are anti-consumer. If you dont know that games are BUILT on PC's and only have performance issues when developers dont care beyond consoles, you are uninformed. If you think every PC game is a cesspool of cheaters, you are dead wrong. If your immediate reaction is to call the article shit you cannot have a logical argument. And PC gamers wonder why so many console players are uninformed fangays that get scammed by MS/sony again and again and still talk shit.
Same. Until console sales drop to under 10 mil for any console in an entire generation and ultra hyper gangster super mega master race PC users outnumber world population by 200% this will always be a retarded argument.
I play both, but PC just can't beat the ease of use consoles have, at least not yet. even with how streamlined steam has made it, i still commonly have to deal with games just not working having to hunt down drivers and .dll files not to mention many PC games just launch with issues these days. consoles are just plug and play, and you get a lot more performance for the price due to consoles being a static and closed system allowing games to be optimized far closer "to the metal" than PC games can be. i mean seriously how much of a beast would you need to run something like uncharted 4 on a PC with the same silky smooth performance and resolution? it'd cost a hell of a lot more than $300 that's for sure.
still love both, but console has many pros PC doesn't have, just as PC does that consoles don't.
The only pros consoles have is maintenance, not dealing with hardware compability, and same online play field (no worries about competing a gamer in a rcaing game with a steering wheel while you are stuck with a gamepad). The ease of use of consoles is gone and buried, the simplicity of consoles is gone and buried. The price advantage consoles had is gone and buried. The variety in gaming is gone and buried. Go play a PS2 game on PS2 compare that to today's consoles and you will see which one has ease of use and simplicity.
Just because your head is filled with stupid thoughts like this, it doesn't mean it needs to be an article! You can keep your stupid thoughts to yourself, ya know?
He brought out facts. When I owned a PS2, I inserted the game and start playing no EULA agreement, no license agreement, no need to install game to hard drive no need for patches or useless updates. It was simple and to the point. Today's consoles were nothing more nothing less than a cashgrab. Sony's tv division knew about 4K by 2010 could of easily inform Sony's gaming division to make the PS4 Pro from the start. But greed and knowing that console gamers would gladly buy a 2010 gaming low end pc release the OG PS4. Even worse Sony is selling an overclock OG PS4 for $400.00 and people are eating it up. Microsoft is at least changing some parts except for the APU and GPU lame. Let's be honest at least Nintendo tried something new in regards to the switch
You're so backwards about 4K. You're right Sony knew about it, but what they knew was it wouldn't be adopted fast. It has low adoption now in 2017, let alone in 2013. If Pro cost $400 in 2016, it would have cost over $500 easy in 2013 and that would have been a big mistake.
4K has very little market penetration right now in the TV market. Projections for 4K were not all that great when Sony was designing or releasing the PS4, so there was really no reason for them to target it just for the relatively small portion of the market which had those TV's. On top of that, the 4K display market hadn't even settled on it's standards yet, making it risky to try and support a single format. With Sony not having it's own stake in the market, they had nothing to push like with Blu-Ray.
So what if consoles now do a lot of things that PC's do now? It works better for the console. You saying all the stuff you have to endure on PC is reason enough to get a PC? If it's OK for PC, it's perfectly fine for consoles. I have to install a game or download some updates? Oh dear.....time to buy a PC I guess to get the same thing. Truth is, for the most part, you put a game in a console, and it works. Updates aren't mandatory, although some games run horribly without them, but many games play fine without them.
I think you're overexaggerating how many people are eating up PS4P. It's selling decently, but that's because it does what it promises, and that's provide a better experience for the games at only a bit more of the cost. MS isn't doing anything different, except their better experience is much more over the base unit.
I'm fine with either PC or console. I just prefer to play on console. The point of console gaming is to play games. If it does that, it serves it's point. I don't need to consider PC vs console, because I just don't care to. Consoles are fine. PC's are fine. Console is what I play more. PC I play at times when I feel like it.
I kinda regret buying the PS4. The PC and Switch are more than enough for me. I bought into the PS4 hype and so far I'm playing "The last of us" (a PS3 game), Infamous Second Son (which I find terrible compared to the first two games), Horizon (Zelda has made me not really want to play this game). Thankfully I'm enjoying "The Last of Us" at least. Hopefully, Spiderman is good because that's the only Sony exclusive I'm going to purchase next.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I own both, but hardly use my PS4 except for exclusives
PC for me for over 10 years.
Umm, the best exclusives. The fact that you know every game is gonna actually work. Less cheating. This article is horse manure. And PC gamers wonder why they're stereotyped as pompous assholes.
I'll always remain a console gamer
Point is games. PC is still missing many of my favourite games this year.