The Xbox One X’s Power Level is Overkill

The Xbox One X is indeed the world's most powerful console, but does all of that power really serve a purpose?

[Eonjay]

Not really unless you consider 4k. See, PC gamers know the tradeoffs necessary for 4k. Most don't even bother. Microsoft is smart too and won't require 4k as it just sucks up resources. Both Sony and Microsoft will use checkerboard rendering because it looks as good and the power these consoles have is used better in other places. Microsoft will take heat for not having all 4k but the tradeoff will be better visuals. Same on the Pro. The market on the other hand isn't stupid and we know that both companies are asking us to spend tons of money on a new TV and console so we can convince ourselves these products improve gaming. They don't. Switch, PS4 and Xbox One S will continue to provide what we need and will continue to drive the market. Even the Pro which does 4k for $400 Is a lot more expensive when you consider a decent TV upgrade. We could call the mid gen consoles the "preview" consoles and easily win the argument.

[fr0sty]

XBO:X can't even hit 60tps or native 4k in all games, so its power is nowhere near overkill. Its price is, though.

[LOGICWINS]

What fool expected every One X game (or every Pro game for that matter) to be 60fps/native 4K? You can't force all devs to make their games native 4K/60fps. That's a creative decision.

The only thing MS promised is that the One X will be native 4K CAPABLE. It's no different than me getting a pair of $400 Bose headphones and being upset when I listen to low bit rate MP3 files.

Ultimately, no matter how powerful the hardware is, the source code on the software determines how much juice you get out of the hardware.

If you think $499 is to expensive for the One X, then you aren't a tech enthusiast. The product isn't meant for you.

You probably believe $5000 for a 4KTV is overkill as well -__-

[Goldby]

alot of us were expecting native 4k and 30 fps.

they cant even achieve that for 3rd party games. only 1st party....

some overkill that is

[DarXyde]

Hard to say if it's overkill, honestly. On one hand, we can reason that the base model PS4 and Xbox One might be underpowered and Pro/X are more or less what the consoles "should have been" from the beginning. On the other hand, the base models already set the standards and now we're expected to pay launch prices for hardware that should have been, not that it matters much since they would be far more expensive if they launched with their current specs back in 2013.

On the bright side, the bar for the next generation consoles has been raised so, naturally, the next PlayStation and Xbox must outdo One X's specs by enough of a margin. Everyone will have to get creative soon though because I think we're looking at diminishing gains in the near future.

[bluefox755]

@logicwins I don't think people were expecting 4k and 60fps, but many of us wanted 1080p/60fps, which is definitely doable on a PC that's considerably cheaper than X1X. Also, with your regard to promising 4k "capable", that's a bit misleading, late last year they were taking shots at PS4 Pro because it used checkerboard rendering and other "caveats" to native 4k, now the word native has disappeared from their language almost entirely. You can't deny that MS overhypes things in a way that borderlines on deception.

[Gh05t]

@Bluefox

Okay, I'll bite.
Please point me in the direction of a considerably cheaper than X1X PC that can do 1080/60, with all the settings at the same level.

I will buy that PC TODAY!

[LandoCalrissiano]

@logicwins, thank you. Said perfectly. Also it's good to add that the one x tech is meant to last at least another 5 years before any kind of upgrade or boost especially when we really can't notice a difference with resolutions higher than 4k, even 1080 to 4k wasn't too big of a jump.

[ASSASSYN]

And that has everything to do with the developers, not the hardware of the Xbox one x. And not all checkerboard rendering is the same. The Xbox one x produces a much higher resolution of checkerboarding than the PS4 pro is capable of.

[ULTp0ltergeist]

^ says 1080 to 4k isn't too big of a jump ....lmao! comapred to the upscaled 900p vs 1080 its' HUGE!

[slasaru01]

This is obviously an US style of news. They HAVE TO exaggerate otherwise people won't buy it

[dcbronco]

Damn, Frosty. That was down right fanboyish.

The improvements made with these refreshes will lead to overkill next generation if the power isn't used for something other than visuals though. Once they switch to better CPUs and next generation GPUs, even if that turns out to be something along the lines of Vega, we'll get some ridiculous consoles. In three years we'll definitely get Zen and we should get ten to fifteen teraflops on the GPU. That's going to be some overkill because we aren't going to 8k TVs by then. Hopefully gameplay makes some changes with X. Which gives you a lot for $500.

[Skull521]

It probably is too much power for a Sony fanboy to handle. Tread lightly.

[Nightmar3Demom]

Well said @EonJay

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

Psh nothing is overkill when it comes to gaming. Higher frames, higher resolution, advanced settings will always be a plus in modern games

[kickerz]

Yea so true. Dumb read that one

[Prince_TFK]

Just a way to stir up the fanboys and generate clicks.

[RacerX]

Just an article for the Sony camp to hate on the X1X

[bluefox755]

If only higher frames were a priority for console games.

[ProjectVulcan]

Today's overkill is tomorrow's barely adequate and the next day's dated.

Less than 6 months after the machine arrives it'll be equivalent to a midrange PC at best. A year after that it'll struggle to match a budget machine.

The more performance the better.

[affrogamer]

For first party developers, no. But for 3rd party developers, they're always gonna build their games to first run on the vanilla consoles and unlike first party developers, they won't spend that much time trying to enhance them for the PRO and X so the quality difference won't be much. In that case all the extra juice in the X would go to waste.

[ElementX]

3rd party build their games to play on PC also and can use those assets. They downgrade assets to run on consoles.

[rainslacker]

They'll make high quality assets to start. Usually more than even a powerful PC can handle. They do this, because it's much easier to downgrade an asset than it is to upgrade it down the road if it's possible. This was a shift in design principal that started near the end of the PS2 generation because it became apparent it was more efficient.

But in game design, there is a target set, and that target is usually the lowest common denominator. The overall game is designed at this spec. The graphics are then downgraded to match that based on what can be achieved with the game design. Then during optimization, they can go back and include better assets if they have the power to do so.

But, here's the caveat. While they can indeed go in and include better assets, it means they do have to sit there and test that to make sure it runs properly with those new assets. It's that testing, and further optimization which isn't going to carry over onto the mid-gens, and what is really being talked about when we see all this, "won't take advantage of the hardware" talk. That kind of stuff takes time, and time cost money. The assets existing in the first place is only a small part of the picture, and honestly, it's the least important part to consider.

PC can include this kind of stuff more readily, because the games themselves aren't built to the hardware, but the OS API's which handle the games rendering pipelines. Because of this, less testing is required, because a level of the hardware layer is removed from the user(Developer). It's also one of those things that may or may not run on different hardware, and actual results may vary. Just because they include the higher quality stuff, it doesn't mean that every card which supposedly can handle that stuff will do so efficiently, and the reason for this is that they never optimize for that stuff, but optimize for the API itself.

[FrostXVenom]

U mean 3rd party lazy devs who will not give much time to XBOX one and pro versions.

[sk8ofmnd]

Esp when the ps5 will prob be unveiled next year.

[LandoCalrissiano]

Even if that's true it won't be true forever. The x is built for the future and the one and the s will eventually be squeezed out until companies are only making the enhancements they weren't before.

[ElementX]

Not overkill when it's announced that it'll play next gen games in a couple years.

[Inzo]

Thats because it is a "next gen" console.

[JackBNimble]

Is that a prediction ?
Even if it does play next gen games it wont be the best console at that point.

[ElementX]

No of course not, but it'll be the cheapest. Nobody would release a console and have it obsolete in a couple years. MS and Sony will release next-gen consoles, but the games will look fine on X if you don't have 4k. Obviously the next gen systems will be more powerful however it won't be a huge leap in capabilities to keep costs reasonable.

[Aenea]

So you're telling me that when the PS5 releases with way better specs that the One X is still 'next-gen'?

Imagine the forums here then, I might need to stock up on lots of popcorn for that!

[ElementX]

Obviously the X is much more powerful than current-gen systems. MS releases it now, in two years they drop support for One and the "next-gen" starts with a $299 X and $500 PS5 and next Xbox. If you have a 4k TV then buy the next gen consoles, if you have a 1080p TV then the X will perform just fine. I don't believe next-gen consoles will be vastly superior to the X, prices have to be reasonable. A few TFlops and some more RAM but don't expect double the power of the X.

[XanderZane]

The Switch is next gen. Currently beating Sony & Microsoft in 9th Gen. The PS4 Pro and XB1X are not 9th gen consoles. When will biased gamers learn?

[LandoCalrissiano]

@elementx I completely agree. That's how I see the future happening too. With the limit of 4k (because we can't really see better than that) and the capability to play 4k smoothly, hardware upgrades will be limited. And of course like every console the price will probably drop around 300 eventually.

[sk8ofmnd]

Ps5 wont cost 499... In 2 years when it ships prices will have become much cheaper and it could def have a beefier cpu, gpu, ram, all for 399. But 399-499 is expected for 4k 60 on all games like ms stated "uncompromised 4k". But i think they will shock us ALL with the price like they did the ps4... They are the kings of reading the market and adjusting fire accordingly.

[JackBNimble]

Ya if they use old tech

[Razzer]

Next gen? Generations are not what they used to be. I expect consoles will follow the same AMD SOC architecture path that was put in place this gen for some time. Iterations. Not generations.

[Eldyraen]

Generations aren't going anywhere yet though, it's just we will see reiterations between them when tech allows it as well (like 1080p to 4k).

PS5/One2 will happen in the next few years (2020-2021 imo) to start a completely new generation after all--Sony has spoken about it on occasion (no date but they weren't shelving generations anytime soon). Mid gen upgrades are just a stop gate between full generation changes (defined less by hardware changes alone and more a total shift of game development to the new hardware specifically, which is how X is still just a reiteration of the One in other words).

Basically consoles have gone the route of gfx cards: you can see multiple versions of same chipset family ("or generation") but eventually things will change that require a completely new card (like dx version changes as one example). Hopefully though we will also get all of the advantages of more streamlined architecture going forward too, such as full BC support.

So I guess it's how you define generations

Games will require new hardware eventually which is how I define them and why I argued how Pro/X were not next gen from the very beginning. Hardware iterations going forward will be different but games will define generational shifts for me.

[Allsystemgamer]

Not with that processor it won't

[segamaniaco]

That already happened, it is called crossgen games
Ps4 will also run "next-gen" games like 2 years after the ps5 launch
Devs wont waste 100mi of installed ps4 base (at the time of ps5 launch)

[Omnislashver36]

They're not going to Max out the console outside of Forza/Halo/Gears anyway. Crackdown also got a downgrade.

I'm hungry for more graphics as well, which is why I hope PS5 launches in 2019. Even at $449 or something, it'd be so damn nice to have a true Nex-gen console in the capable hands of Sony.

[Bigpappy]

You think they should dump the Ps4 and pro and move to a better 4K console?

[Omnislashver36]

Not dumping when in 2019 it'll have been 6 years since a proper refresh.

[sk8ofmnd]

Agreed... I hope that when the show it off they say... "Uncompromised 4k" 😂 and then say "you guys understand that means 4k 60 for every game, unlike what someone else promised".

[Sonic_Vs_Mario]

Crackdown has never been about graphics, it's a cell shaded comic art style game. I'm guessing you've never played previous crackdown games

[Omnislashver36]

Actually I have, I only played 360 last-gen and definitely played Crackdown. Don't try to dodge that the original Crackdown inengine footage and gameplay looked, way, way nicer than the downgraded game they have now. I even have doubts that the cloud's destruction footage may have been faked since everything else was.

[Allsystemgamer]

And cell shading can look great.

Too bad this doesn't.

[ichdich]

Xbox one x is a true beast indeed

[TheOttomatic91]

As soon as I saw "Power Level" I thought to myself "Over 9000!!!!!!!!!"

Okay awful jokes aside I think we need to see the XB1X in action before we decide if it's overkill and honestly it's underkill to me as there isn't as much native 4K as I thought there would be, at least not yet.

[sk8ofmnd]

Esp when you say something like "uncompromised 4k" i was like ohhh shit here we go 😈 and then i realized that was bullshit 👿!!! Do they even know what that means? That doesnt mean 4k 30 on most games with checkerboard rendering, 4k 60 on some games with checkerboard renderering, and 4k 60 ONLY on ms 1st party exclusives 😂😂😂
Da fnck. It MEANS 4K 60 on high settings for EVERY game!

[BeOpenMinded]

Never have I seen any exec saying all games will be 4k. I have read so many times it's a developers choice.

[Allsystemgamer]

I don't even want a one x but your comments are embarrassing.

[Gh05t]

Someone put a new record on this one is skipping.

[chris235]

for maybe half a year it will be good, yes. then time will have marched on like it always does.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Oh for god sake. All generation it had been "PS4 is more powerful blah blah blah", as soon as the tables turn its overkill and the power no longer matters?
Im a fan of both consoles and im sick of seeing this crap all the time.

[2cents]

Overkill is good.

More Powwwaaaaaarrrr!!!

[emty]

What a fool.

I guess the better graphicsé/textures/resolu tions/framerate the PS4 has had over the XBO for the past 3 years has been a figment of gamers' imaginations.

[pinkcrocodile75]

As a gamer, in the past I've tended to stick to the Microsoft Platform (Xbox & Windows) and never bothered with Playstation. However that changed when my man bought the PS4 and then PS4 Pro with VR. I didn't jump ship as I thought whilst the game were great with Japanese Style Games an obvious minus for me, it did show me some games that I enjoy A LOT. Specifically Uncharted (Awesome but ROTTR has the edge for me) then there was Horizon.

The graphics were clearly better on PS4 Pro compared to XO and XOS and those games shine. Now we have the XOX.

Now as a parent I've got boys and each one of them wants the best, but are loyal to Xbox so we will get the XOX on release day regardless. Luckily both of their dad's can afford it so it's a no-brainer for us.

As so as to whether it's overkill, is really a stupid question unless you ask the same question about PS4 Pro, which once it release, didn't happen. So the same will happen with XOX

[Fishy Fingers]

Sounds like an awful position to find yourself in....

[MagicBeanz]

You can count on one hand and have fingers left over the number of games that are hitting native 4k and 60fps on xbone x, is this whats considered "overkill"?

[attilayavuzer]

No the overkill is referring to the incessant fanboy shit-slinging.

[MagicBeanz]

You're acting like that's something new, from either side. But we can pretend its one sided if it helps your agenda.

[attilayavuzer]

@MagicBeanz No agenda here; own all consoles + PC. Every company should get recognized for their accomplishments and mistakes. Microsoft put together a machine that should be capable of hitting native 4k for every developer that decides to utilize it effectively. Whether they decide to or not is up to them. MS has done their part though to deliver an impressive piece of hardware; if you want to get upset about a game not hitting 4k, you should direct it towards the developer at this point.

[no_ripley]

How about hitting 60fps @ 1080p first ... this generation is so laughable

[hengst2404]

I am not sure I understand the point here. One could argue that for the first 2 years of a new console's life cycle the power included is overkill. It takes years before developers tend to really bring out the titles taking advantage of the hardware. It could be over-powered, or MS could get off of their rear ends and make some amazing and compelling first party games that show what all of that hardware can truly do when somebody takes the time to optimize it. Now if they sit around and wait for other developers, well then yes it may end up being all for not. Again, the problem with these stories is that it is simply far too early to tell what will come next.

[sk8ofmnd]

The xb1x needed to start a new gen and the xbx would have been a great name. In all seriousness the xb1 is whats holding the xb1x back... And the ps4 of course with all their marketshare and AAA 3rd partys sponsorships. If the xbx started a new gen there would be no need for 4k 30... If they went that route id say put a slightly better cpu and waited until holiday 2018. That would have given the xb1 5 years on the market, and the prices for innards would have become cheaper... Just my 2 pennies

[AAWELLS09]

Wow shifting narrative for sure. Before Xbox One X it was ALL about POWER and how the PS4 was out pacing the Xbox One and how could anyone want such a weak console. Lmao now its too much power. Holy cow I'm getting motion sickness from all this shifting . I've been following games for years very close and no amount of disagrees or clever comments will change this fact about moving the goal post. Man have the tides turned lately. I'm guessing as soon as PS5 is announced it'll be about power again. Again I don't care what any of you wanna come back at me with as I know I'm right thru and thru.

[Jakens]

"I've been following games for years very close and no amount of disagrees or clever comments"

It is a fair point my friend.

[LoveSpuds]

It's no different to how sections of the xbox community downplayed the fact that xb1 was weaker, they would argue it didn't matter and that they still enjoyed their games. Now of course, those same people have completely changed their tune given that the XB1X has the power advantage.

Ultimately, none of these kinds of comments matter, the proof will be in the pudding. There will be a vocal minority who make the jump to the new console and the console will perform better than the Pro, but I honestly believe it won't matter, the console will not outsell the XB1S nor will it help MS catch Sony this generation.

The things that matter, in my opinion, are the quantity and quality of the games and the market share enjoyed by PlayStation, power is a consideration to some, but not to the majority.

[Mbofa6om]

Fanboyz aricle, stop these articles, neither way xbox will smash sony. Sony fanboyz was talking1080/60 all last three years. Now, micro gives the answer with sweet kiss. So stop talking about it. Xbox is the answer fore the fake 1080/60

[leeeroythe3rd]

So now its too powerful... you guys cant make up your mind. Try every angle to convince yourslef that innovation within an innovation market is a bad thing. Keep playing your ps4 and leave the rest of us alone

[XStation4pio_Pro]

It will never be right unless one of its features is to be a PlayStation to both fanboys and fanboy bloggers. Personally I have NEVER seen a situation where someone had "too much" computing power for any purpose let alone graphics demanding games. F this fanboy writer. ;)

[Allsystemgamer]

What innovation? They OCd the CPU, slapped in a modified RX480 styled card and a vapor chamber. I don't see what exactly is innovative with the console when pcs have been doing this for years.

It's a strong system. It's not innovative. If achieving a higher resolution is considered innovation then shit I guess every graphics card that releases is "an innovation".

4k isn't innovative. It's a resolution. A resolution the system seems to be struggling to hit.

[attilayavuzer]

It's pretty impressive how they've managed to physically produce the XOX though given the form factor. Has to be one of the most well executed console designs to this point.

[AAWELLS09]

Lmao terrible terrible comment. With this comment it shows you don't have any idea what you're talking about. So when you gonna make and develop a console? Cause I wanna play the superior tech you come up with.

[rainslacker]

More power is innovation? Seems to be the norm as things move forward.....at least most of the time.

Anyhow, there are a lot of people saying a lot of things. Narratives were never set in stone. The community, nor the press, all speak as one. Fine to cite any individual change if need be, but the "narrative" is what it's always been. That narrative is whoever has more power, gets to brag about how power is important. Doesn't really matter what one's console preference is, as this will shift back and forth barring some change in the thoughts behind how a particular company releases their console.

I recall an NVidia keynote I attended years ago at some gaming conference. They guy was on stage for about 45 minutes talking about how innovative they are. Their innovation....throwing more cores on top of more cores to increase power. Nothing really new in the design of the cards, and it's what had been happening with GPU's and CPU's for years before. When it was over, i recall asking my professor(I was in school at the time), how what they were doing was any different than what had been going on for a while now. He just laughed and said it wasn't, and that was it.

Don't be fooled by fancy talk about power and equate it to innovation. Innovation comes from other places. Those places change how things are done, and improve on them. Nothing is changing how it's done with X1X, but it does improve on them, which is pretty normal for the progression of computing technologies.

[ApexWolf22]

These articles are overkill, we get it already...

[gamertk421]

I can't wait!!!

[Npugz7]

There's never too much power!!!

[hiawa23]

Damn, They whined that the X1 and PS4 were not powerful enough, and now the X has too much power that may never get used. Are you kidding me? They just can't win with some.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Not if you want 4k. In fact it's still not hitting native on everything. I wish my PS4 pro was as powerful as the one x. That's why I'm going to buy one when it goes on sale. That's why gt sport doesn't look as good as forza 7 and why the one x will always have an edge on multiplatform.

[Claudinho69]

pc gamers not gonna like this

[Gravesinger_]

Hmmm, and why is that?

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Tell that to the person photoshopping playstation buttons on Xbox one x footage of anthem....

[Gunstar75]

So it's too powerful?
Seriously .... MS could negotiate world peace and a cure for cancer and someone would find issue with them.

It's plenty powerful enough for a mid-gwn refresh. Thanks

[Jakens]

It serves the purpose for which it was built.

The price is right for the "target" audience.

They did this much better than the 2013 wave of events.

[rainslacker]

No such thing as too powerful. Ask any dev, and they'll always lament how they want more. but devs do live in the real world, and live within whatever restrictions they have to to make their games. You give any dev unlimited power, and they will likely find a way to use it.

[Ben12]

Oh ya but if ps4 pro was more powerfull the world would be beatifull

[FreddyFazbear]

Overkill?? Yeah right. It is really pathetic the marketing team of xbox and its fanatics. So thats the best you got?? Hyping up a stronger machine and claiming it to be so powerful? not even close to a top of the line PC. OG xbox is stronger than ps2 but you know what happened.

[Pancit_Canton]

It's a marketing gimmick

[Razzer]

What he is really trying to say is that the One X is overpriced for the overall console market. It isn't overkill as tech as games can achieve more than One X will allow. And it is a good price for what is, but most console gamers will probably opt for cheaper options. Even Spencer acknowledges this.

Article title really doesn't match the message.

[Hakoom]

microsoft propaganda at it again lol

[Psychotica]

So only buy what is good enough for now without regard to what you may need in a few years? That makes no sense IMO.

[Elda]

That's nice that it has all that power,but I don't need a 500 dollar machine to play multi-plats.Imo if they would have blown E3 away with exciting new exclusives that I just had to play asap,I would have bought a XBOX but imo MS just didn't come through.Folks buying a XBOX enjoy but I'll pass.

[DrShoe]

Microsoft still hasn't learnt - it's not how powerful a console is but rather how awesome the games are. The Boner X is going to fail hard.

[bluefox755]

In a way, yes. Combining their GPU with a near obsolete CPU, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. But the article seems to be referencing the overall power of the console, something that's just laughable. "Overkill" power wouldn't run most games at 30fps. Sorry folks, it's a mid-range PC with a CPU bottleneck problem (but to be fair, PS4 Pro has the same issue), which is why it can does "almost" 4k more than actual native, and is still unable to do 1080p/60fps for most games. It's great if you're excited about it, but the dishonest and misleading hype isn't doing anyone any favors.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Does having an uber PC build serve a purpose when you could just run a game at vanilla resolution and frame speed? The answer is...to some. So for some Xbox One X absolutely will serve a purpose. Moving on...

[Clunkyd]

Why are we still talking about how "powerful" the Xbox One X is? All games aren't 4K, Most can't do 60fps with it, it has to downgrade games in order to run in 4K (crackdown 3). It's not that powerful, end of story!

[xsta1ker]

clunkyd
why point out everything you say it can't do... and tell everyone what Microsoft built it to do
embarrass the pro in every graphical way possible fact.

[ASSASSYN]

Nothing is overkill in gaming hardware when it works.

[its_JEFF]

I think the X1X, and the Pro, are in a bit of a "no mans land" situation. They are powerful enough to get to 4K sometimes, but not powerful enough to get us to 4K "all the time" They are EXACTLY as they are advertised, a mid-gen console refresh. These consoles are meant to hold us over for the upcoming, much more powerful, next-gen consoles.

I honestly don't know how you could be disappointed with these consoles, as they were advertised as such. They are not bringing in a "new gen" they are stop gaps. If you are disappointed, then likely you bought a little too much into the hype, or "drank the kool-aid".

[StormSailor]

Just a PS4 Pro 1.5

[343_Guilty_Spark]

It serves to create headlines like this so no one ever forgets X gonna give it to ya!

[Runechaz]

Yeah yeah.. xbox one x will be the most powerful console until the PS5 and then it will be the PS5 the most powerful console until the (xbox one x super plus max 8k), but you know what... PC will always be the most powerful gaming machine !

[zb1ftw777]

I don't even care for 4k.

I just want 1080p 60fps.

[Maxor]

IMHO no.This is another 30 FPS console, hardly the definition of power. I bet that in most 3rd party games you will struggle to tell difference the Pro and X version.

[Scatpants]

No it isn't. It's like a midrange gaming PC.

[mwjw696]

July steam survey just came out. Its more powerful than 99% of all gaming PCs.... mid range my fat azz.

[Scatpants]

Video card is equivalent to rx480. Midrange. 2.3ghz processor. Midrange. 12 gigs ram ok that's decent. Just because 99% of Steam users use midrange PCs doesn't make this some kind of supercomputer.

[Artemidorus]

Consoles should be encouraged to gain more and more hardware wise.

Don't think people understand the scale of 4K and beyond.

[jc12]

More power the better.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

The only thing that will be native 4k all the time with no BS is the PC. (there is even 8k) The next round of consoles, probably in 2020-21 will be able to run all games in true 4k @ 60fps or even higher by then. For now only some games will be able to run in "true 4k".

[Braveheart_NZ]

To those who beat their chests every chance they get when they feel threatened in any way when the Xbox One X gets mentioned while yelling out to anyone who will listen "PC Master race" only a very small percentage of people who own PCs play games in a resolution over 1440P. Most still play in 1080P which is even less resolution than what a PS4 Pro puts out which is around 1440P and 1800P on some titles. This Fanboy stuff annoys the crap out of me. Just enjoy what you have and play games. The fact is, that after a Steam Survey taken in June 2017, whether you like it or not, the upcoming Xbox One X is More Powerful than MOST Gaming PCs out there and before you start attacking me yelling out console pesent I just purchased a Ryzen7 1800X and a Asus Crosshair VI Hero ROG mobo along with G.Skil Flare X 3200Mghz ram to go with my GTX1080Ti graphics card which I have yet to build, but I am about to, so my PC rig will do Native 4K, but even I accept that this Xbox One X footage looks stunning. Stop being Fanboys and just play your games on whatever you play them on and stop attacking others. Anyway, video below for you PC elitists to watch if you choose to. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Braveheart_NZ]

Oops lol the Xbox One X footage that I was talking about that looks great in my opinion is in the video link below, that was just released. The footage looks like it is down sampled using higher resolution textures to 1080P 60fps since most of us do not have 4K monitors to watch in 4K anyway but we still get the gist of how good it still looks. It looks very nice regardless, especially for a console version of a game. I will probably buy an Xbox One X for my living room(convenience) and PC game in my bedroom. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[EDKICK]

And here's today's Xbox bashing clickbait. Remember when every other article was about how the PS4 was soooo much better because it had some extra power over the X1. Now the extra power is useless, unnecessary and power isn't really important.

Blatant hypocrisy, when you blindly praise someone for doing something then hate on it when someone you don't like your word becomes worthlessess.

When you praise someone you don't like for doing good it has so much more weight when you critique them.

[Soulrakk]

Well, I've heard it all now.

[Npugz7]

No! No it is not! WHat kind of idiot wrote this article!

[TargusX]

It's called 'Future Proofing'.

[BadElf]

Overkill!
KO!