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New CPUs And Price Cuts Expected By Intel

Intel has updated its partners with details its latest desktop CPU roadmap, as well issuing product discontinuance notice (PDN), end of life (EOL) and price cut schedules for the next few months, sources at motherboard makers have disclosed.

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Overclocking the MSI N460 GTX Cyclone

Igniq.com: After reading up on how well these cards overclock and how easy the software makes it these days, that coupled with the fact that I can practically cool beers in my Cooler Master HAF 932 full-tower case, I figured I’d give it a shot. I wasn’t prepared for how easy it was to get this card stable at the overclock I attained.

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Is PC benchmarking getting out of hand?

These days PC benchmarking is at a whole other level with people going to insane extremes to crank as much juice from their machine as possible. A high score in 3Dmark might give some a digital boner but it may not mean all that much depending on what game they’re playing.

Pandamobile5384d ago

Is it so wrong that people try to push their hardware to its limits?

Extreme benchmarking is the tech-world's equivalent to drag racing.

Letros5384d ago

You're absolutely right, between curiosity and competition, it's just human nature.

coolbeans5384d ago

If the consumer's willing to spend the extra dough, I don't see the problem in them pushing their PCs to the utmost limits.

Cevapi885384d ago

how is there a limit, when the tech keeps evolving and advancing every year...it might last for a couple of months or a year, but something new and more powerful is always around the corner

bobcostus5384d ago

Pandamobile, I freaking love you. In a totally platonic way of course. Mostly.

OT: I have a corei5 750 overclocked from 2.6 ghz to 4.0 ghz on air, and an ATI 5850 OC'd from 725/1000 to 900/1200. :D I love to overclock. Hell, I even overclocked my droid phone.

Pandamobile5384d ago

It's okay, I get that a lot :3

TOSgamer5384d ago

I pretty much overclock everything as well. Hell I even overclocked the atom in my mini 311. 1.6 to 2.1 ghz. That is one case where it definitely helps for every day use since the atom is so anemic at stock levels.

il-mouzer5383d ago

I ended up overclocking my htc hd2 which is now no more :P

NegativeCreepWA5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

I want to over clock my i7 which is at 2.6 but, don't have a clue how. I looked into it a little and from the sound of things its supposed to be a little more complicated then other processors.

KingKiff5384d ago

Google it.

There will be instruction for each chipset, cpu, gpu etc.

My advise is when you first try out overclocking the key to not melting you system is baby steps. Overclock a little at a time and check for stability and you should be fine.

A simple tweak of the voltages by .1 of a volt can up a 2.6ghz CPU to a 2.75ghz/2.8ghz CPU.

Once you have played around a bit it becomes easier.

Just read up on it and you can't go wrong (usually), I have fried a mobo or two in the past.

NegativeCreepWA5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

I was just looking around a bit and most of it is way beyond me. From what I've read I'm just going to try and get 3.2. It seems to be a safe number with stock cooling for the i7 920 and it'll put me on par with an high end i7.

Hell, I don't even know how to get to the CPU-Z screen to turn on the boost, that all the articles I've read show. If I could get to that screen the turbo boost feature alone would get me to 2.8.

I hate not knowing anything about computers, but since I bought my gaming rig in Jan I love PC gaming. Haven't came across a game that can make it my rig skip a beat yet, well except for the last level of Crysis on full settings.

il-mouzer5383d ago

I have the i7 920 too - had some problems with Starcraft 2 due to the overclocking (was 3.4) which I then reduced (to 3.2) and worked fine.

Sarcasm5384d ago

Wow... I guess I fall into this category as well. I finally was able to OC my 965BE to 3.9ghz stable.

Even though at 1680x1050 resolution it doesn't make a huge impact on games and the fact that I play everything with V-Sync on, it's almost pointless for me to OC.

But I do it anyway. Soon, 4ghz here I come!

mittwaffen5383d ago

PS3 vs XBOX threads, where benchmarking provides indication of performance for future games; picking apart console games (very very small differences when compared to a PC game)

That is pathetic, N4G another FAIL article approved.

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tacosRcool5384d ago

Metro 2033 is super hard to run on my and my bros computer.

KingKiff5384d ago

Time to upgrade them my friend...

Or buy an Xbox lol

KingKiff5384d ago

An Xbox will run Metro 2033 just fine...

It is the truth.

Pandamobile5384d ago

Yeah, it runs fine, but it looks like a game from 2005.

imvix5384d ago

Xbox version of metro is 540p from what i recall, and low res textures. You could make those settings on PC or slightly higher if you dont want to upgrade.

hoops5383d ago

If you play Metro 2033 on a capable PC, you will never want to play it on the Xbox360.
Put simply;
Metro 2033 is the best looking game this generation. It even looks better than Crysis Warhead in many cases. The problem lies is you need a high end PC to run it.
Now if you do, you will be blown away by the visuals.

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tacosRcool5383d ago

Well and the 360 can't run it in Dx 10 on medium setting higher than 540p like our computers. The 360 has nothing compared to my computer

bryter5384d ago

2 GTX 460s can handle Metro 2033. You can get into the 50 fps with a little overclock.

KingKiff5384d ago

If you want to burn your house down lol...

jj they are not that bad, but ATi all the way I say.

bryter5384d ago

The GTX 460s are actually extremely efficient and don't use very much power. Nvidia have re-worked the Fermi architecture to draw less power, produce less heat and generally run cooler than the GF100 variations of the 470, 480 and indeed the 465.

KingKiff5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

I know I was joking lol... I think they are a good card.

Just this gen I have been on ATi's side with their bang for buck cards.

I used to love my 8800 GTS OC edition (800 odd megabytes)

@ Pandamobile above

HAHAHAHAHA I lol'd at that one.

bryter5384d ago

Cool man, I was thinking of going with ATI and getting a 5870, but I would like to see a price-drop. For almost the same price I can get 2 x 460s which drastically outperform 1 x 5870, in some cases they can even outperform a 5970. :)

What ATI card are you using now?

siliticx5384d ago

@bryter

theres a new wave of AMD (ATI is dead btw) coming in october.

nanometric5384d ago

Yeah, I'm bulding my first PC with i5-760 and GTX460(and another one down the road). From what I have read, and I have done a lot of that, it is the best card price/performance wise. In SLI it beats GTX480 by some 10-20%, and all equally and even some more expensively priced ATI cards. Not to mention nVidia's supperior SLI scaling, Physx, etc.

p.s. dammit, can't wait for my new PC T_T

ultramoot5384d ago

I don't see anything wrong whatsoever with benchmarking.

Newtype5384d ago

The more you push the processor, the faster it will die. Unless you water cool.

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Fudzilla: GTX 480 Fermi reviewed, finally

Fudzilla gives a fairly in-depth review of Nvidia's new high-end GeForce GTX 480 GPU. Pitted against ATI's high-end Radeon 5870, the GTX 480 outperforms it quite well.

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OpenGL5568d ago (Edited 5568d ago )

This is more or less what I expected. Sure it is a bit faster than the 5870, but its more expensive, very hot, and uses a lot more power than its competition.

Originally Nvidia planned on having 512 stream processors on the GTX 480, but they had to cut it down to 480 due to manufacturing constraints. Perhaps a future revision (GTX 490?) will come with all 512 stream processors, although I wouldn't expect that to improve performance drastically.

Either way this card is good news as it can help bring down the price of ATI's current DirectX 11 hardware.

ProjectVulcan5568d ago (Edited 5568d ago )

Enabling the last set of shaders and a clock bump would actually bring a pretty good performance boost if nvidia get the silicon working better.

However thats likely what Ati have been doing the past six months. If 5870 had its core and memory clocks bumped 10 percent, shouldnt be all that difficult, then it would be extremely close to GTX480.

5890 anyone? 950mhz core + 5200mhz GDDR5 = GTX480 hurt

Empire X5568d ago

well I will be getting one being I'm not a fan of ATI cards.

dirthurts5568d ago

Why would you knowingly pay more knowing it's not worth the extra $$?

rexus123455568d ago

This card is way ahead of its time ("cutting" edge). Newer games show much more performance improvement over 5870, compare to older games. And Radeon got completely owned in the DX11 tessellation benchmark. However, until PC games start to implement DX11 in masses, I think it's better to wait. By then, both AMD and NVIDIA will most likely come up with better versions of their existing products.

Charmers5568d ago

I have been a long time Nvidia user and even I am less than impressed by the GTX480. The main concerns I have are heat and power usage. I just don't feel the "extra" performance the GTX480 gives over ATI's offerings justify the extra heat and power usage.

I wasn't intending to hop on board with a GTX480 straight away (way too pricey for my tastes) but if Nvidia don't get the power and heat issues under control I can see me switching to ATI when I upgrade from Dx10 to Dx11. Although I will confess it will be a reluctant switch over since I have never been much of a fan of ATI's stuff.

steve30x5568d ago

Its possible tp Physx to do Physx with ATI onboard. There is a patch out there that allows you to use a cheap physx enabled Nvidia GPU while having an ATI main GPU.

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Cernunnos5568d ago

No point in getting rid of my dual 285GTX overclocked editions any time yet then. Expected it to be more powerful than this. I guess it wont be too long until the 600 cards arrive with some newer tech. This technology is reaching it's limits, look at those temps!

overlorduk5568d ago

good lord! 65 degrees when idle? My 5870 only goes to 65-68 degrees (depending on room temperature) after several hours of Crysis, GTA4 etc.

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