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F1 2017 Already Running At 4K/60fps With HDR On Xbox One X, Features Numerous Graphical Enhancements

Codemasters' Lee Mather talks about the spruced up graphics.

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butchertroll2915d ago

@Sexius

Yes, i know that. I just ask where is that 6k because it's not exist on XboneX. It's just one of Xbone fan delusional thinking.Btw. TF 2 isn't 6k nor native 4k on Xbonex. You should read Respawn answer to "6k" :

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

xsta1ker2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

yes butcheroll whats your point the fallow up response still conferms x1x can hit 6k @ times
runs @ 4k and uses super sampling to scale down to hold a steady 60fps like the pc does.

unlike the ps4 proless witch starts @ 1800p and scales up to hit the 4k mark if it ever does... will need to wait for digital foundrys comparison to prove how useless the proless truly is.

Bigpappy2915d ago

Is there something wrong with you Butch? T 2 runs natively on X1X. Where did you get that it isn't native?

XanderZane2914d ago

Pretty sure XiNatsuDragnel was being sarcastic about 6K and you took it hook, line and sinker. Everyone knows the game isn't 6K. lol!!

I'm more impressed with how fast they can port the game over to the XB1X and it still runs at 4K before anything has been done to enhance the game.

JasonKCK2914d ago

Salt get in your eyes butchertroll?

bolimekurac2914d ago (Edited 2914d ago )

you couldnt help yourself and had to show just how much of pathetic fanboy you can be?

Kingthrash3602914d ago (Edited 2914d ago )

Wait so os it running native 4k or dynamic 4k??

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MagicBeanz2914d ago

In Titanfall 2 before its downsampled and never actually seen. lol

Ding2914d ago

xsta1ker15h ago(Edited 14h ago)
yes butcheroll whats your point the fallow up response still conferms x1x can hit 6k @ times
runs @ 4k and uses super sampling to scale down to hold a steady 60fps like the pc does.

unlike the ps4 proless witch starts @ 1800p and scales up to hit the 4k mark if it ever does... will need to wait for digital foundrys comparison to prove how useless the proless truly is.
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You're funny little boy.. The REAL laugh is that Codemasters EGO engine they use in F1/ Dirt/ Grid etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

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Ego Game Technology Engine is a video game engine developed by Codemasters.
Ego is a modified version of the Neon game engine that was used in Colin McRae: Dirt and was developed by Codemasters and Sony Computer Entertainment using Sony Computer Entertainment's PhyreEngine cross-platform graphics engine.[1] The Ego engine was developed to render more detailed damage and physics as well as render large-scale environments
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Is built on S*O*N*Y!!!s FREE PhyreEngine which runs on every system under the sun

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PhyreEngine is a free to use game engine from Sony Interactive Entertainment. Despite its origins under Sony it is compatible with more than just PlayStation platforms, with support for PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3, PlayStation VR, PlayStation Vita, PlayStation Portable, Microsoft Windows (for OpenGL and DirectX 11) , Google Android and Apple iOS.[1] PhyreEngine has been adopted by several game studios and has been used in over 200 published titles
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Including PSVR. This was designed for Indie devs where the PS 3 was the development system

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Features[edit]
PhyreEngine is distributed as an installable package that includes both full source code and Microsoft Windows tools, provided under its own flexible use license that allows any PlayStation 3 game developer, publisher or tools and middleware company to create software based partly or fully on PhyreEngine on any platform. The engine uses sophisticated parallel processing techniques that are optimized for the Synergistic Processor Unit (SPU) of the Cell Broadband Engine of PS3, but can be easily ported to other multi-core architectures.
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Ooooops. lol

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cartoonx12915d ago

why do you comment on every article that dont have to do anything with you?

XStation4pio_Pro2915d ago

He's a fanboy trolling cuz it's better hardware than PS4

butchertroll2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

You referring to...?

XiNatsuDragnel2913d ago

Why do you personally care?

KingKionic 2915d ago

Add it to the list...the prophecy holds true.

Beast from the west has come to feast.

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RommyReigns2914d ago (Edited 2914d ago )

@Igotthejuice

You're right (although personally I don't recommend to get anything from GAME as they are a scummy retailer, and have monopolised collectors editions and gaming memorabilia) http://www.game.co.uk/webap...

Also £449.85 at Simplygames and £449.99 at Tesco Direct, looks like £449.99 is the standard price, lower than the £499 RRP. Expect it to be even lower with deals.

butchertroll2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

Quote :

Add it to the list...the prophecy holds true.

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What prophecy? What you Xbone fans are dreaming about?

Beast is dead on arrival at 499.

Donjune2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

Only for poor people!

XStation4pio_Pro2915d ago

The prophecy of 4K 60 being possible on a console. PS4 ain't doing it and I know plenty of people waiting to buy the one x. I'm one of them.

butchertroll2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

@Xstation4pio_Pro

Quote : The prophecy of 4K 60 being possible on a console. PS4 ain't doing it

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Wipeout says hello, Xbone fan. LOL! Now Xbone fans believe in some prophecy. Good lord!

BigWan782915d ago

@butchertroll...

I remember u sayin that no one would buy an $150 Elite Controller... and yet, none could be found for months on end...

There will be an audience for the One X, rather you like it or not...

DAEMONIFEAR2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

My ps4pro is out and 1X is in I've traded up all my ps4 games and jumping back to xbox where I have way more fond memories playing games sony since ps3 has just become an exclusives box but i gotta wait years to play them because they never release and for me that has been 2 worth playing...yay??

xsta1ker2915d ago

i have no clue why you put troll in your name because your terrible @ it.
if your going to troll don't post links that proves the oppositions point lol.

XanderZane2914d ago

@butchertroll
Wipeout is checkerboard 4K and dynamic native 4K. I read the whole article you (or was it someone else) linked me. It's not a locked native 4K and I'll bet the 60fps isn't locked either. I believe DF did an article about it.

Shadyceaser2914d ago

You are seriously butt hurt about this console .

Grievous2914d ago

@ XanderZane
Wipeout is playable at native 4K and locked at 60 fps.

It's not that impressive if the xbox one x can run games at 4K/60 fps if the same game runs at 60 fps on the xbox one s. It's only logical because the improved GPU allows for better resolutions. It's the minimum you'd expect.

TKCMuzzer2914d ago (Edited 2914d ago )

@XanderZane
You need to check your facts, Digital Foundry confirmed it was native 4K and could not find any signs of dynamic 4K in their tests on Wipeout. I also believe in a later video they said the devs confirmed to them it was now native and no longer dynamic.
Your a fool, you go on about Digital Foundry but have failed to actually watch the videos which is lazy.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
That is the first video, I can't be arsed to link the second one in which it was confirmed by the dev that the game is native 4K now. Oh and look its locked at 60FPS.
There is fanboyism and then there is you, lazy fanboyism to enhance your own personal agenda/view. Be fair and give devs the credit when they have earnt it.

Kiwi662914d ago

Why does it bother you that devs are saying good things about xb1 x as it didn't bother you when the ps4 p was getting praise from devs before it was released yet you do nothing but try to downplay it because its getting support from devs of all levels which isn't bad for a console that apparently won't sell

Knockknock2914d ago

Does that mean the ps5 will be DOA when it arrives at 499+, with only minor improvements over Xbox one X.

kingjames182914d ago

Not dead to me I'm picking it up Nov 7th BABY!! The XBOX ONE X will be the hottest item this Holiday season. I can't wait!

pinkcrocodile752914d ago

I am getting two this year one for the livingroom and another for my eldest lad who goes to University soon. He got into Oxford University just like both of his dad's. We are so proud and there is no way he's going without a new Xbox One X.

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rainslacker2914d ago

My God....you are some sort of zealot for MS aren't you?

Who talks like this?

Please don't plan on having a mass suicide party the day the X1X releases. While I find your comments annoying, I wouldn't wish you any actual harm over a piece of electronics.

BLKxSEPTEMBER2914d ago

And you sir are a buzzkill. Let that man be happy Debbie downer.

rainslacker2913d ago

If he's joking then he's stretching that joke way too thin.

ninsigma2915d ago

I'm glad Jim Ryan was wrong and that there ARE developers making the most of X1X capabilities. There would be nothing worse than for gamers to spend 500 euro on the console and no one take advantage of it.

freshslicepizza2915d ago

Didn't Mark Cerny say you need at least 8 tflops? Why yes he did. I have F1 2016 and it is a beautiful thing at high frame rates.

Now we all know the Xbox One X will not do native 4K for all games but its great to see the support coming so early. There will be quite a few games taking advantage of the new hardware right away.

Ricegum2915d ago

A good comment from Moldy for once. Who'd have thought?!

butchertroll2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

Yes, for proper 4k. Cerny clearly stated that at Pro reveal. 8TF is probably a minimum to do a native 4k without a single sweat and without need to go for dynamic 4k or checkerboard 4k where XboneX isn't imune to that because it isn't powerful enough ( cough, Anthem, cough, Ass Origins, cough, Titanfall 2, cough PCARS 2 .... )

EDIT :
C'mon, Xbone fans, give me some disagree votes. LOL

KingKionic 2915d ago

Mr Rogers clearly didnt know about the beast.

DaGreatOne2915d ago

While Microsoft has promised that the Scorpio will be able to achieve native 4K gaming with ‘just’ 6 teraflops, Mark Cerny believes that rendering in native 4K will require at least 8 teraflops of computing power. Although this is merely a “personal estimate” from Cerny, it’s an interesting one at the least.

We really gonna hold this against him?

butchertroll2915d ago

@DaGreatOne

Maybe for "true" 4k., right?

fhizikz2915d ago

@buchertroll Mr cerny is not talking custom made .but thown together PC parts ..so he needs more power

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ninsigma2915d ago

He questioned in an interview whether devs would actually make use of Scorpios extra specs (similar to how devs didn't make full use of PS3 last gen).

trainsgofast2914d ago

"Yes, for proper 4k. Cerny clearly stated that at Pro reveal. 8TF is probably a minimum to do a native 4k without a single sweat and without need to go for dynamic 4k or checkerboard 4k where XboneX isn't imune to that because it isn't powerful enough ( cough, Anthem, cough, Ass Origins, cough, Titanfall 2, cough PCARS 2 .... )"

It's up to the developers to use what they wont on XB1x and that's why you see dynamic 4k or checkerboard 4k. IF it could not do it then there wouldn't be any Native 4K games on XB1X. Are there not a game like any of those that are 4k on XB1X now ? Yes'

Condemnedman2914d ago

he said ps4 fan trolls with believe anything

rainslacker2914d ago

I think Ryan was referring to if a majority of devs would support the more power aspect and push it. I don't think he meant that not a single developer would. Obviously, there will be devs who spend the extra resources to deliver something more if given the chance.

While I think he maybe overstated and implied just how little other devs may support the extra power, I don't necessarily disagree with him outright, because what I've seen on the PS4P seems to indicate that the extra power won't always be used to full advantage. I'd imagine the same is going to be true on Xbox for a lot of games, while there will likely also be quite a few games which do take advantage of what's there.

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segamaniaco2914d ago

Lowest common denominator

And sony deals to hold the beast

So nothing to worry about

Low 4k tv adoption rate + 500$ = DOA for sure

2019 ps5, nobody will buy another scorpio2 only 2 years later

So ps5 will have a full year of sales advantage over the next xbox and may have price cut when it arrives

If it works to maintain sony at the top forever, so lets do this cat and mouse play

Knockknock2914d ago (Edited 2914d ago )

And why would people buy a ps5 with slightly improved specs and similar cost to Xbox one X in 2 years.
At 499+ will be ps5 be DOA?

kingjames182914d ago

How is 4k adoption rate low? You can buy a 55" 4K tv for about 800 bucks now. I doubt its low.

Kingthrash3602914d ago

This argument is why exclusive AAA ips are important.

BLKxSEPTEMBER2914d ago

Let me get next weeks lotto numbers while you're at it...

jrshankill2914d ago

The fact that you comment "nothing to worry about" makes it sound like you're a schizophrenic fanboy, talking to yourself to reassure that your PS4 is still relevant.

News flash.. it is relevant and will continue to be relevant. People need to stop with this comparison bull"""t and get back to enjoying games on whatever platform they wish.

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jhoward5852915d ago

The beast has unleashed again.

RommyReigns2915d ago (Edited 2915d ago )

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROCK LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLESSSSSSSSSSSSS NARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! https://www.youtube.com/wat...

jrshankill2914d ago

Reigning, defending, undisputed, beast Broooock Leessnaaar! The 1 in 21 and 1.

Artemidorus2915d ago

Master race are no doubt laughing at you.

B1uBurneR2915d ago

PC Master Race has no say in a Console space. When it comes to the console space The oX is the Beast. PC not designed for living room. Hence Direct X in a box. Sony fans in disguise try to convince other if its not PS then you might as well pay more for a PC to surpass X1X powers.

Artemidorus2915d ago

They got every say when they see this, a PC can be connected by wireless just like a console no problem.

Makes the X look like a Gamecube next to it.

jmetalhead778122914d ago

Yeah, I'm so worried about a bunch of nerds laughing at me.

Tango2915d ago

That's just beginning. Beast is not even close to be unleashed!

MazeRunner2914d ago

agree. with more dev kits optimization and time game makers will make wonders with that console

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Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 devs praise games like Space Marine 2 for "lowering the barrier"

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 developers discuss the huge success of Space Marine 2 and its effect on the series as a whole.

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Jingsing4d ago

How about an official level editor for Boltgun?

jznrpg1d 22h ago

I’ll get Space Marine 2 when it’s cheaper. I don’t pay more than half price for short games.

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Glen Schofield: Dead Space Wouldn’t Be Greenlit Today—Publishers Are Afraid to Take Risks

Sector sat down with Glen Schofield—creator of Dead Space and The Callisto Protocol—during the Game Developers Session (GDS) in Prague to discuss the evolution of the game industry, the current challenges of AAA development, and why it's become so hard to get original ideas off the ground in today’s risk-averse environment.

1nsomniac5d ago

It’s easy enough to say that, but why? It feels weird to me when developers say this but common sense would tell you everything about the idea itself should work.

The idea of the concept seems like a winner at whichever angle you look at it so why would publishers not greenlight it?

… it’s almost as if the majority of publishers are massively incompetent at their jobs. But there’s no surprise to anyone there.

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WILD HEARTS S Q&A - 'Switch 2 Is Closer to the Series S Than PS4'

Wccftech interviewed Koei Tecmo about their upcoming game WILD HEARTS S, gathering their first thoughts on the Nintendo Switch 2 console.

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Christopher7d ago

This new tech, in 2025, is more comparable to 2020 tech than 2013 tech.

*tip toes over that bar*

Also, why are all the comparisons to PS4 and not Xbox One?

Neonridr7d ago

PS4 is more powerful than the XB1, S2 is more powerful than both, so why not use the higher of the two?

Christopher7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Probably because people who owned an XBO and not a PS4 don't really know what it means. The assumption is that everyone is as knowledgeable as journalists or gaming news junkies. Gaming is mainstream, that means that mass majority of people don't know these specifics, only online talking points.

And the PS4 and XBO are the closest in power systems we've ever had, so this 'more powerful' is so small, it really isn't the big talking point people think it is.

RaidenBlack5d ago

I'd rather add, Xbox One X can be used as a good metric to gauge if a said system is more powerful than last gen.

VariantAEC4d ago

It's pretty clear that Switch 2 isn't more powerful than PS4 Pro. Is the base model PS4 being beaten? Well, Switch 2 is hardly ever actually being compared to the base model PS4, but seeing as how it's yet to outperform PS4 Pro in basically any other way than loading data into RAM in video comparisons. I have to assume the individual developer being interviewed has very little experience with PS4 and Xbox One.

OtterX6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Which is great for a handheld/hybrid! Some people still stick to Digital Foundry's PS4 comparison comment as gospel, back when they were just watching trailers and hadn't even had their hands on it yet.

With that said, this interview doesn't go into very much depth on this. I'd like to see more analysis, but so far I'm really impressed with the performance since I got mine on Friday. Truth be told, having a PS4 Pro level handheld is enough for me. Anything beyond is icing. I'm not looking to replace my PS5 or PC.

VariantAEC4d ago

In this case Digital Foundry is right. They didn't adequately explain or sound remotely confident when showing Switch 2's "visual" benefits in that HogLeg comparison was related to loading. Yes, sometimes two massive world segments can be connected by a smaller individual loading zone like how Jak 2 handled open world zones on PS2. There is a small room that in itself is it's own discrete loading zone that you wait inside as the next massive portion of the map loads in. Very common when going from Haven City to any part outside of the city owlr when descending into the sewers or entering the city from the outside or leaving the sewers. Anyway, the HogLeg skybridge loading zone is more detailed because Switch 2 could load in more varied textures. Models load pretty fast. It's probable that the decimated models that appear in the Switch 2 version were supposed to be visible on Xbox One and PS4 in that scene, which might be why they exist on Switch 2. Unfortunately, the same video showcased above shows PS4 Pro is basically ahead of Switch 2 in all other ways imaginable. Higher rendering resolutions with a sharper cleaner image, better effects quality, and a better distance all favor PS4 Pro. Both the Pro and Switch 2 seem to have a pretty solid 30FPS performance level.

MDTunkown6d ago

For how thin switch 2 is it’s impressive especially when it’s stronger than steam deck and cost less

Christopher6d ago

Steam Deck is cheaper at $399. Switch 2 also uses cheaper materials. See joycon drift still being an issue. You'll also save a ton more money on software alone with the Steam Deck.

Honestly, if the Steam Deck was released today, it likely would at least match the Switch 2 in areas where it outperforms the Steam Deck but still have more advantages. Main thing holding back the Deck is the cores and resolution, because it still has the better CPU and GPU otherwise.

Neonridr5d ago

@Christopher - I own one, no stick drift. My OG joycons never had drift either.

Steam Deck relies on FSR which is still inferior to DLSS. Not to mention that the S2 can push double the GPU performance in docked mode. Deck has more memory, which is nice.

I have both, but my S2 will be getting the lion-share of playtime in the near future. That being said, I can still appreciate being able to play my steam games on the go.

FinalFantasyFanatic5d ago

For me, the game sales/prices and flexibility of the Steam deck outweigh the cost of the system itself, but I'll probably get a Switch 2 anyway.

OMNlPOTENT6d ago

And the ps5 was comparable to a PC that could be built over 5 years before it came out lol, how do you think consoles stay affordable?

Christopher6d ago

You're actually proving my point even more.

badz1495d ago

@omnipotent

PS5 comparable to a PC built OVER 5 years before it came out? let's see...

the best mainstream PC combo back in 2015/2016 would be the i7 6700K ($350) + GTX 1080 ($600). Sorry, but that setup is never going to outperform the base PS5 in games, especially modern ones.

you done lying yet or still want to continue lying so your precious Switch 2 doesn't get hurt by facts anymore?

CosmicTurtle5d ago

It’s a tech article speaking about specs people who care about this will know. I did not own an XB1 but know it’s at a similar tech level as PS4. PS4 has a far greater sales footprint, it makes sense to use it.

ABizzel15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Technologically it’s closer to the Series S….. Raster-wise it’s closer to a base PS4 which has been the point.

Why Switch 2 is better:
The much better CPU allows for higher FPS than the last gen Jaguar CPUs could ever produce.
The 12GB of RAM prevents the system from being bottlenecked in most modern games (even SS fails here)
The storage while not NVMe Gen4 speeds, is significantly faster than the HDD in last gen
It’s a RTX 3000 hybrid, and DLSS is a better upscaling solutions than all other consoles even PSSR currently, and significantly better than checkerboard rending.

This is where the PS4 & PS4 Pro comparisons come into play. Natively it can’t compete with the PS4 Pro, and really closer to the base PS4, but due to the better CPU, more RAM, faster storage, and DLSS it can upscale resolution, image quality, and performance to get close, match, or certain cases exceed the PS4 Pro, and rivals the Series S.

DLSS is really the saving force behind Switch 2 getting current gen ports to acceptable resolution quality, and NVIDIA and Nintendo did it at 10w, so kudos to them, because many of the AAA 3rd party games are and will continue to be native 540p - 720p upscaled through DLSS.

Also this game would benefit from DLSS.

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Sonyslave36d ago

I notice it always ps4 or ps4 pro but never xbox one x which is more powetful then the ps4 pro.

MDTunkown6d ago

And it’s also in someways stronger than series S. Xbox one x is a special console that was never fully utilised and has 1,5 times more teraflops than series s.

badz1495d ago (Edited 5d ago )

but the Bulldozer CPU is much weaker and inefficient compared to Zen2 used in the Series S

Neonridr5d ago

the CPU's were those crappy Jaguar based chipsets though.

jznrpg5d ago

Because most people don’t care about Xbox

repsahj5d ago

This is an ugly port, they should improve it more instead of releasing it early.

gold_drake5d ago

sooo ...

what this is telling us, is that it comes down to the game and the devs optimization.

VariantAEC4d ago

There are already several games on Switch 2 coming up short in side-by-side comparisons. Cyberpunk 2077, Fortnite, and HogLeg are just the first examples with the first game in this list only having better image quality due to DLSS and slightly more stable performance due to that lower resolution than last gen systems enabled by DLSS, but having simplified models at mid distances and fewer NPCs roaming around than on PS4 or Xbox One.