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Forza 7 on Xbox One X Matches the Quality of "a Multi-Thousand Dollar PC"

Today's divisive comment comes from Forza 7 Software Architect, Chris Tector.

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nX2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

lol multi-thousand? Our deluded Microsoft comment of the day.

Sure 500$ won't get you a full PC but if you're smart you use an existing PC, buy a 300$ GPU, check for bottlenecks that you need to upgrade and you've outdone the BEAST with the same money. Not only that but you:
- have a system with a 10x bigger games library
- save the monthly XBL subscription
- save more because PC games are cheaper
- have ALL games in 4k / whatever FPS you prefer without the need for patches
- an actual all-in-one solution for your home entertainment if you just hook it up to a TV

But if you're really, really smart (like, Microsoft-"smart") you just wait until Volta comes out (GDDR6 Memory, HBM2) in the next few months and GPU prices drop to a level where Scorpio seems like a bad joke.

Webbyy2558d ago

lol dude obviously he exaggerated with his statement. let's not get crazy now.
xox is great value is what is he saying

nX2558d ago

So you are fine with Microsoft "exaggerating" to advertise their products but I'm the one getting crazy for stating simple facts? You fanboys sure are a special bunch.

MegaMohsi2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

It's obvious to people like us who more or less know technology but the average consumer wouldn't know any better. These are blatant lies told by MS and their developers, "True 4K" is now apparently dynamic resolution and checkerboarding, ridiculous.

tyasia02558d ago

This is far beyond exageration. Exageration would be saying it's a $1000 computer. Saying multi-thousand is a lie.

chrisx2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

You can count on ms to mislead and Deceive people with every little opportunity.and their fanboys absolutely love it

bluefox7552558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

It's not exaggeration. It's a lie. He's trying to pass off the product as something way more than it is, it's dishonest, and everyone should call out this as the BS that it is. The amount of flat out lies and deception surrounding the Xbox One X reveal is staggering.

Omnislashver362558d ago

To be fair, if the shaders on the cars were as good as GTSport I'd have a damn hard time figuring out the difference between it and a $1750 PC. The environment and details looked pretty amazing.

itsmebryan2558d ago

@NX
At the end of the day X1X is much more powerful than the PS4 Pro.

The 10th Rider2558d ago

@2tyasia0,

We spent over $1000 on our computer a year ago and it gets roughly comparable performance to a Xbox One X.

Since then RAM prices and GPU prices have actually jumped. We also used a copy of Windows we already had and we didn't even put a disk drive in, much less a UHD drive. It's also about four times the size of an Xbox One X so if you're considering form factor that's an issue as well.

thekhurg2558d ago

Doesn't matter if it's a great value. When you have someone in the industry being this blatantly ignorant about specs of a machine, it spreads false information.

uptownsoul2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

No way Turn 10 can optimize to the level of a "multi-thousand dollar PC" while Coalition can only get Gears 4 campaign to run Native 4k/30fps...Both CAN'T be true!!!

That would mean every 1st party studio (343, Coalition, etc) NEEDS to get their games running to the level that a multi-thousand dollar PC would run the same game at

ThePope2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

Guys first of all take a breath. Does the XOX match the quality of Multi thousand dollar PCs? The answer is yes. Can you build one for much less that also matches the quality? Also yes. But thats not the question he was asked.

And the downplaying is getting so aggressive its becoming sad.

NX said "Sure 500$ won't get you a full PC but if you're smart you use an existing PC, buy a 300$ GPU, check for bottlenecks that you need to upgrade and you've outdone the BEAST with the same money."

Check for bottle necks and have to build a whole setup (desk, monitor, PC, etc) and upgrade on a regular basis? PASS. I'll take the XOX (along with my PS4 pro), my 65" 4K tv, Dolby Atmos 7.2, and super comfortable couch thank you very much.

nX2558d ago

@ThePope
"Guys first of all take a breath. Does the XOX match the quality of Multi thousand dollar PCs? The answer is yes. Can you build one for much less that also matches the quality? Also yes. But thats not the question he was asked. "

Ehm have you ever thought about getting yourself checked for schizophrenia?

"And the downplaying is getting so aggressive its becoming sad. "

Yes it is actually becoming sad... how ridiculously non-existent your arguments are.

LexHazard792558d ago

Playstation Fanboys Unite!!
Lol... MS telling Lies just like Sony with their damn Dynamic 4K. Yet you sit here and type your hypocritical comment. Both companies are lying to their consumers.

morganfell2558d ago

"lol dude obviously he exaggerated with his statement. let's not get crazy now."

So they are allowed crazy talk but cannot be called out on such matters? When they are not called out it only encourages more of these statements. Just look at the remarks history of someone such as Albert Penello and you will understand how tolerance equals permission, even advocacy.

thekhurg2558d ago

@lextroll

Actually Sony was upfront about checkerboard rendering and even discussed it at length prior to the console releasing. On top of that Sony never said the pro was about "true 4K" gaming like the liars at Microsoft are still touting.

fr0sty2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

Right... just built a PC with a Ryzen 7 1800x, 32gb 3000mhz DDR4, and a Geforce 10 series GPU, and a 500gb M.2 hard drive with 3.9GBps write and 1.7GBps read speeds that would eat XBO:X for lunch. I paid a bit over $1,500 for all of it. This system is easily 2-3x more powerful than XBO:X.

ThePope2558d ago

@Nx

Congrats you literally said nothing.

dcbronco2558d ago

Hey, Frosty. I'm sure if you reread your comment you'll realize the problem with it. Yes, your system may be more powerful than Scorpio. Three times more powerful is debatable. But not you clearly mention it's three times the cost. I'm also aware that given your knowledge of what Microsoft did with X if they spent just $300 more in manufacturing costs they would completely kill your $1,500 computer. For that they could add RAM and Zen and go with more power on the GPU. X is pretty much unbeatable on price right now.

_-EDMIX-_2558d ago

@nx-whoa slow down there with explaining facts

RommyReigns2558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

@nX

Them Xbots believe in cloud power, they'll believe anything Microsoft throws at them.

nitus102558d ago (Edited 2558d ago )

I won't deny that the XB1x (stupid name IMHO) has interesting hardware but for the author to state that it is as good if not better than a multi-thousand dollar (assume USD) shows he is out of touch although if you are going to compare against top of the line laptops then yes you may be looking at $2000 USD plus. Of course, he may be referring to the Surface Pro laptops which cannot be repaired since they are basically glued together.

If you build or get built (costs extra) a desktop PC for under $2000 USD you can get a "beast" of a machine including a decent 1400p or 4K monitor that will literally make the XB1x look like an abacus. That said the hardware of the XB1x is still very good value for the price although I have not factored in the price of a "decent" 4K display.

Skull5212558d ago

Most powerful console ever, can't wait for the XBOX!

SolidStoner2558d ago

@ nX
console games are cheaper at the end! (they are a real thing for console gamers, its a real product like a TV, bed, washing machine, its a thing you own, it has a value, like gold, you can and must at some point sell it, so other dude can enjoy it....... its a fact, its like with cars, I BUY CONSOLE GAMES (I RENT PC GAMES!), I can sell them at the price I want, and they cost a lot when new, and keep value for many years...

rainslacker2558d ago

We have multi-thousand dollar gaming PC's at work. They run about $4-8K each. They run circles around almost every elite PCMR system because they use development level hardware which isn't often available to the public yet.

So, when MS says this, I just have to laugh. For games built that can take advantage of them, they make the current consoles look like an Atari 2600. While they aren't Pixar level quality of graphics in real time capable, they're probably as close as you'd see in the next ten years.

I put together a spec build of all the highest end parts about 6 months ago, and it ran me about $3K without a monitor, which would be another $1000. It would run circles around the current consoles and X1X as well.

If forza 7 looks as good as one of those kinds of PC's, then they didn't do much to make Forza look better. Lowest common denominator and all that. The more power, the more they actually have to code and create to actually take advantage of it. If your build only uses 6 levels of shaders and baked lighting, it's not going to look as good as a game that uses 12 levels of shaders with full dynamic lighting. It just doesn't work like that.