Is it possible to build a PC under $500 with the same specs as an Xbox One X?

Under the hood, an Xbox One X is a collection of PC hardware. We dig into current component prices to see if we can build a $500 system that matches (or beats) its performance.

[tinynuggins]

This is really interesting. The vapor cooling system is missing from the list though. Wonder how much that piece costs.

[ukjadoon]

The builds are also missing a WiFi card and that adds to the cost even more.

[MegamanXXX]

Another thing you have to consider you don't pay for online on PC that saves hundreds of dollars. You get great deals and mod support on PC. True native 4K 60fps on PC. It has more perks even though it's more expensive. PC actually have more exclusives than Xbox as well.

[ForeverTheGoat]

@MegamanXXX
This topic is about specs for PC at the same price as the one x. The other stuff you talking about is irrelevant rn.

[ABizzel1]

I think the XBO-X is a good piece of hardware for a console, but the reality is by the time it launches you will likely be able to get any of the following better values.

$199 PS4s / XBOs
$349 PS4 Pro
$500 Gaming PC with comparable specs to XBO-X

And all 4 are better values when it comes to price:performance.

The computer in this article is pretty much a PC Partpicker list, and that site while a good starting point is never the lowest price when stores like Newegg and Microcenter around. Come Black Friday all of those components will be cheaper especially last gen GPUs with Vega and Pascal coming out. So deals like a GTX 1060 6GB for $179 - $199 bundled with games is extremely likely. And that CPU / motherboard combo can be bought for less at Microcenter.

And there are components like a BluRay drive that are completely unnecessary for a PC where installs are king.

[Babadook7]

"Another thing you have to consider you don't pay for online on PC that saves hundreds of dollars."

@MegamanXXX

People always mention you don't pay for online. But they forget you pay more for games. Due to the fact you need to buy digital and therefore can't buy used and sell used. In the end that makes you pay a LOT more for the same thing. You also can't borrow from friends or rent.

[Skull521]

Just what I thought, it costs roughly double. The only thing here is it doesn't look like these computers were built and benchmarked. We know the XBOX can do 4K30 Gears 4 so we need people to start targeting that with the builds and see what happens.

[StoneyYoshi]

@Babadook7

"Due to the fact you need to buy digital and therefore can't buy used and sell used. In the end that makes you pay a LOT more for the same thing. You also can't borrow from friends or rent."

While i agree with you on not being able to buy used games or ever resell them. The rest isn't all too accurate. The fact that everything is digital actually helps games become cheaper faster than any digital store on the ps4 or xbox. And there are websites like G2A where you can get new games at a discounted price. Ive even gotten games pre-ordered on that site for 10 bucks off the day before its released.

Id also like to add that you are able to share games with friends on steam (to an extent of course). Its called family view and it allows your friends (after you authorize their computer and account) to play your games. Granted as long as you aren't playing a game online on steam.

As a PC gamer and a PS4 player, Its always been cheaper to game on my PC. This is my own opinion and experience.

[Babadook7]

@dontbhatin

Even when you get a new game for $10 online it is more than the price of buying and selling used games (discs). And that $10 price is not a normal situation as steam and gmg usually are much more in the first month of sale. In any given year you will save a lot of money buying and selling discs vs looking for digital sales. If you compare digital to digital of course you are right. But my comparison was not digital vs digital but digital vs used discs. Even when a game is under a month old you can save $10-$20 off of new price by buying used on amazon or eBay or local buy and sell. Then sell for the exact price you had paid. That cost of ownership can't be beat on pc.

[morganfell]

"This topic is about specs for PC at the same price as the one x. The other stuff you talking about is irrelevant rn."

No it isn't. Do you buy a console and come home and sit it in the corner, never turning it on? No? Let me guess, you do not play multiplayer? Purchase of a PS4 or X1 must carry with it the consideration of monthly/yearly online costs for a minimum of 3 years. Longer if it is the beginning of the generation.

[thexmanone]

And also missing monitor, keyboard and mouse. add that too the cost as well

[nveenio]

I'm waiting for the actual system breakdown when XBOX releases. Microsoft has a track record of being sneaky, and I still think most devs are going to target improvements other than resolution, because resolution isn't what gives a game most of its "wow" factor.

[Destiny1080]

pc have a separate cpu and gpu so don't need vapor cooling to keep things cool even though some high-end gpus have them

[freshslicepizza]

One thing people forget is how the console is designed, most PC games actually just use one core on the CPU. The cores on game platforms are utilized a lot more efficiently. This means comparing each CPU is redundant. Games are getting better on the PC like Battlefield but as we move forward with Ryzen hopefully PC developers start utilzing the cores more.

[Bigpappy]

Forget the specs. Get the PC running the games at the same performance for under $500 and I will skip the X1X and buy one instead.

[ABizzel1]

CPU & Motherboard $110 http://www.microcenter.com/...
FX 8320 + Asus M5A78L-M Plus

GPU $250: https://www.newegg.com/Prod...
GTX 1060 6GB

HDD $40: https://www.newegg.com/Prod...
Seagate 1 TB

Optical Drive: $15 (DVD) / $40 (Blu Ray) / $130 (4K BR same from article)
RAM $45: Same from the article
PSU $35: Same from the article
Case $35: Same from the article
OS $35: Same from the article

$565 / $590 / $680

For $565 you get a gaming PC right now that performs every bit as well if not better than the XBO-X, and come Black Friday while the XBO-X is launching at $500, those PC components will be even less.

1080p @ 4K performance (the beauty is if you want 60fps you can get it, you're not stuck at 4k @ 30fps)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[dantesparda]

Oh you mean the same way a i3 4130 and a gtx 750ti was outperforming the PS4 and X1 at alot of games early on for the longest time? Some of you people are such fools falling for anything your beloved corporate masters say. This $652 PC will already outperform a 1X in many games, WATCH! And you everybodies knows you can get Windows for free and you dont need the the bluray drive on the PC, its just a waste of money, so that saves another $75

AS:O is dynamic and CB 4k on both (so much for "true 4k", just another of MS's failed propaganda PR campaigns, like the cloud, DX12, ESRAM, etc). Metro Exodus wasnt even running on the 1X, GOW4, Crackdown & NFS are all just 30fps and so on, this thing is hardly more impressive than a Pro, only more expensive, a year later and less exclusives.

[ABizzel1]

@SirJoJo

Since you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and like Digital Foundry so much, here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Yes an overclocked "GTX 970" (which performs on par with a standard clocked GTX 1060 or 980), is running Forza Horizon 3 in 4K @ 30fps locked High settings and Forza 6 APex 4K @ 60fps locked High settings.

Now an overclocked GTX 1060 is pushing into the same performance realm as a standard clocked GTX 1070 or 980 ti, which can run both games in 4K @ 30fps Ultra settings and 4K @ 60fps Ultra settings.

And as you also provided a RX 580 is also another option for that same PC.

[alb1899]

HDMI 2.1 is missing too

[da1writer]

I really recommend many to check out jermgaming, he built a $500 rig that can go toe to toe with the Pro and Xbox One X just fine and hit 4K with similar compromises on some games as these Mid-Gen upgraded Consoles do.

You'd be surprised.
https://www.youtube.com/use...

[da1writer]

Despite the thumbs down, I'm not trying to pick on Consoles nor is jermgaming. We are perfectly fine with both markets, console and PC, being available to the consumer and coexisting. Tastes and preferences differ from us all. Now jermgaming just wants to show anyone who checks out his channel that for the price of a budget build in the $500 range can provide results similar to the console counterparts with either similar results or better. A thumbs down is a head scratcher to me for my last comment. I own Consoles, handhelds, and a good PC, I simply play games, not the devices themselves [nor do I worship them]. That's why I can't stand Death and a few others fanboys here, they know little about these devices outside of what their dumb console war means to them.

[dantesparda]

@da1writer

They dont want to know the truth, they rather believe their own s**t.

[spoonard]

The vapor cooler, the UHD drive, the wifi card... this isn't a PC with the same specs as the One X. Nor does it include a keyboard/mouse or an Xbox controller. Put the Assassin's Creed game shown at E3 on this PC vs it running on an Xbox One X and the Xbox would blow it out of the water.

[svoulis]

Oh boy. @tinynuggins I hope you're being sarcastic. "Vapor Cooling" has been around a lot longer for PC's than the Xbox One X...This is a joke right?

[Lennoxb63]

You'd be lucky to hit 1080p on AAA titles on a $500 PC.

[Princess_Pilfer]

No, no you wouldn't. People are big on using TFLOPS as a buzzword without actually knowing what it means right? The build they list used a RX 580 which has... 6.2. About the same as the Xbone. Course they could save ~40 dollars with a 1060 or a good 70 if they picked up a used 970, which have similar performance.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Princ- ??? 😂😂😂.

Are you serious? You will literally just said the exact same thing I said and then you attacked me?

"No you wouldn't"

Is exactly what I said for the exact same response did you seriously not read the original poster was and you just randomly replied to me without knowing whom I was talking to?

"No, no you wouldn't. People are big on using TFLOPS as a buzzword without actually knowing what it means right?"

I'm literally agreeing with you and literally started my sentence the same way in agreeance that no it would not be "lucky" because it is not a rare occurrence yet you don't even understand that the post was agreeing?

Smh

Look you guys need to stop with the shotgun post and jumping to ridiculous conclusions without understanding the context of what's being stated.

Wow.

Relax. I agree, as to why I literally just said the same thing you did.

"No you wouldn't"

[kevnb]

1080p for $500 is doable.

[Lennoxb63]

With everything at low settings with a stuttering frame rate, sure.

[Princess_Pilfer]

AMD and Nvidia market the 1060 and 480/580 as 1080p cards. That's what they're for. With very few exceptions, they will do 1080p at 60FPS with either high or ultra settings (or a combination of high and ultra settings)

[OoglyBoogly]

The FACT that his comment has way more upvotes then downvotes really goes to show how people here don't know actual PC hardware and performance. Let alone what you can get for the price.

[bluefox755]

1080p is doable at less than $300 lol.

[fathertime4464]

$1200 laptop owner, 6months old with 16GB of dd44 can't run Forza at 1080p 60fps.
However I didn't build it so there's that too

[_-EDMIX-_]

It is, but like many are saying, clearly settings must be changed to run that smoothly or at great quality.

I mean...sure you can game on low settings,but I Think many mean 1080p, high settings, 60fps minimum etc

I think many on here need to be more clear on what they mean, as you wouldn't buy a PC from someone that ONLY told you "It plays games at 1080p"

ie WHAT GAMES? Minecraft? lol ONLY 1080p? At what settings? If you'd ask those, then clearly I feel we all need more info given when stating what is doable and how.

[badz149]

doable? more like VERY doable! where have you fanboys been all these times? RX480, GTX1060 and the newer RX580 easily ace that 1080p60fps category. these are $250 range cards.

[Princess_Pilfer]

Yeah, you don't get to use a Laptop for comparison. Laptop CPUs and GPUs are garbage for gaming. They basically have to be or they'll run into major heat problems in such a confined space (not to mention destroy their battery life.)

Saying your $1200 laptop can't do 1080p and using that as your comparison for PCs in general is like saying your $60,000 Bently cant do 200mph so neither can that $60,000 Corvette. Well obviously it can't, it's not really supposed to.

[Princess_Pilfer]

@Edmix
Battlefield 1
Fallout 4
GTA 5
The Witcher 3
Hitman
Just Cause 3
Tom Clancy's The Division
Assassin's Creed Unity
Sniper Elite 4
Rise of the Tomb Raider
DOOM
Forza Horizon 3
FIFA 17

They all run a 60 FPS somewhere betwen medium and ultra settings, with the most intense areas in the most intense games dropping the average no lower than 45 fps.

It's also worth noting, console versions of games almost never run at ultra settings, usually running somewhere between medium and high, which you can see in any number of comparison videos between the PC and console versions on youtube.

(video proof of those game running on that system)
https://youtu.be/KFsrSCVgbC...

Also, as a side note, yes that will play games at 4k/30. I think they'd look better at 1080p or `1440p with higher settings and I think they'd play better at 60 FPS so that's probably not what I'd want to do, but it can. Feel the same way about the PS4 Pro and Xbone X to be honest, too many compromises necessary to get things running at 4k. Just look at the difference in quality in the shadows and enviromental textures/models between the 4k/30 and 1080/30 versions of Tomb Raider on the PS4 Pro to see why.

[rainslacker]

I have a 9800GTX. It's a 7 year old card. It can do 1080p.

Maybe not with all the bells and whistles, but you can probably find one for $30-50 if they even still have them out in the wild. It was only recently that the minimum requirements for games surpassed this card, and many new games still have lower requirements.

While I don't game much, I don't really have frame rate problems on the games I do play.

[OoglyBoogly]

Bullshit. I had a SINGLE 290X in my system for a while (which you can get used for ~$150) and it could do even 4K just fine! Maybe not all setting maxed at 60fps, mind you, but I know I played the like of The Division at 4K with a mix of medium (mainly shadows)/high/max settings and kept a very solid and playable 30fps V-Synced.

So yeah, 1080p for $500? Definitely. 1440p at $500? For sure. 4K at $500? Possible.

Hell, even the likes of the coming on 6 year old AMD 7970 still keeps up at 1080p no problem:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Those are even cheaper than the 290/290X. So yeah, 1080p is doable just fine at $500.

[Princess_Pilfer]

@Cupofjoe
Here is a 970 doing 4k/30 in GTA 5
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Here is an RX 480 playing DOOM at 4k/30
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[bluefox755]

That's just incorrect. You obviously don't game on PC. This PC build in the article will run basically every modern AAA game at 4k, most probably at just around 30-40fps, but the less demanding ones can go up to 60 or more.

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol.

No you wouldn't. You can run 1080p on lots of PC's with AAA games, simply not at great frames, but I think I know what you mean.

[Princess_Pilfer]

https://youtu.be/KFsrSCVgbC...

actually yeah, at 60 fps mostly, and typically at high/ultra settings.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Princ-this was the specific comment I was replying to

"You'd be lucky to hit 1080p on AAA titles on a $500 PC"

My comment is specifically saying that lots of PC at that price point can basically play a game at 1080p especially if you're essentially ignoring every other setting. Like all. Because of how modular PC is it is very difficult to make blanket statements like somebody would be "lucky" to get 1080p because 1080p varies based on user settings.

[Princess_Pilfer]

Yeah, I don't believe you. I've seen your comments in other places, and think you're backpedaling because I posted proof.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@prin-??? What do you mean backpedaling? I'm agreeing with your point I'm telling the comment that I'm commenting on that you wouldn't to be "lucky to" that is a normal thing to be able to run 1080p. On such a setup.

My comment is saying no you would not be lucky because it is not a rare thing reread what I'm saying to understand what I mean.

I'm actually agreeing with you I was never in any way shape or form disagreeing that such a thing was not possible.

I mean literally my next statement is you could run 1080p on lots of Triple A games.....

I own a gaming PC.

Lol

I think you greatly misunderstood what I was actually saying and I think you need to look at the original posters comment to get what I'm trying to say.

I'm basically disagreeing with the Rarity of systems being able to run 1080p your list does nothing but agree and confirm that 1080p is not a rare occurrence. ie it's not lucky.

I'm not saying no you wouldn't be able to I'm saying no you wanted to be "lucky"

Lol

I mean my other comment even explains to you what I'm even referring to by that comment.

Why would I say it's not feasible to do such a thing at 1080p only to go on to state that multiple games do that at 1080p?

"No you wouldn't" is referring to it being lucky ie it's not, it is the norm.

Once again just to clarify I 100% agree with you.

Read the original posters comment to actually piece together what is being stated because I think you're greatly reading that comment out of context.

Again.... I own a gaming PC my steam ID is Edmix_the_Shogun.

There's no reason to be combative especially when you actually read my comments specifically stating that it is not a rare thing.

I think you guys jump the gun on here way too much 😂😂😂

[Domovoi0ng]

32 console plebs, 12 gamers that know facts.

[EatCrow]

Easier if you go AMD instead of Intel.

[Vasto]

Nope, cant do it.

[Allsystemgamer]

Yea you can. Many people already have.

[Vasto]

Dude, if you could build a 4K Gaming PC for $500 everybody would have one.

Any pc gamer already knows it cant be done.

You cant even build a 1080p / 60 PC for $499.

Its easy to pick parts and say you can. Put it together and show me a video of you playing games in 4K.

[bluefox755]

I don't know why you got so many downvotes, there is someone a couple comments up that did it via pcpartpicker.
@Vasto I'm a PC gamer, and not only do I know it can be done, I've done it myself. When you say "You can't even build a 1080p / PC for $499"
I know you know absolutely nothing about PC gaming.

[Nathan_Hale53]

4k at 30fps in most titles at who knows what settings.

It can and has been done.

Yes you definitely can, that is bullshit.

Playing in 4k is easier than you think, I believe the settings on consoles are turned down to run the higher resolution like some people do on their PC's though most would rather run a better framerate. 4k 30fps isn't that special compared to playing 60fps+. 4k is just a marketing thing right now.

[Psychotica]

How much would it cost to build an Xbox One X, component by component? The only reason it's at that price is because it's mass produced.

[Destiny1080]

the reality is you cant take pc builds serious, they like to leave components out and these builds usually link to the cheapest garbage on the net and from what I see very little thought goes into the future of this thing

[rainslacker]

If one has a computer already, then it's much more doable. For the most part, a GPU is really the only thing necessary to get it up to par. Any i3/5/7 made in the last 5 years will outpace the one in the consoles. For $500, one could get a GPU that will far outpace the Scorpio. One could spend less on the GPU, and up the memory, which isn't as neccessary on PC since most games run through GPU memory anyhow.

[shiva1]

In 10 yrs how many gpus and cpus would require replacements just because a game is stuttering or just hangs inbetween. There are lot more videos on game got stuck on PCs on youtube

[rainslacker]

I dunno. CPU architecture isn't advancing that much, and for the most part, gaming isn't taking up more of the CPU on pace with current speed increases.

[Null1980]

That's assuming everyone has to start from scratch. Some people may have some decent components already and just need to upgrade a few things or less. Maybe just a new graphics card.

I know I'm in, already maxing XB1 games, but I admittedly paid more because mine's a laptop.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

hmm, I would take out the blu-ray drive (can buy it later on), get a 500GB hard drive, then put that $$ towards a GTX 1070, and take out the RX 580. Also you do not need to pay for Win 10 LOL. I have and use the best version that you cannot buy, it's called Windows 10 LTSB x64, it doesn’t come with the Windows Store, Cortana, or Microsoft Edge browser. It also omits other Microsoft apps like Calendar, Camera, Clock, Mail, Money, Music, News, OneNote, Sports, and Weather. Pure simple with all the MS bullshit included :D No need to explain how I obtained it. :)

[rainslacker]

There are some legal ways to get all sorts of MS programs for free which don't require any kind of effort. Just got to find a way to get into MSDN, or take advantage of some other programs that MS has for learning opportunities. Might require some effort, but doesn't always require cost. You can even still get win10 free with a valid Win Vista-8 install.

[Asuka]

eh until AMD's new Raven Ridge comes out (Ryzen + Vega APU) there really isn't a point in building a gaming pc for $500. You would be limiting yourself to using budget gpu's and components that won't be worth your money in few years time. You would be better off just getting a console, and the Xbox One X/PS4 Pro for what they offer are really great value.

Imo a reasonable budget for a gaming pc would be around $700~$900 including OS. With Ryzen out now, you can get yourself a very nice 6c/12t Ryzen 1600 + a rx 580 for ~$750, or get a gtx 1070 instead of the rx 580 bringing you to ~$900 (including various other components needs e.g. psu, mobo, memory, and etc.) Those setups will see you great performance for about the life span of your average gaming console (5-6 years). But again you are talking at about $300 more than just buying a game console that'll give you very good performance over a 5-6year lifespan making it the better value.

Personally i would go PC if you can afford it, but then there is the argument that some people just do not want to game on PC. There is no hate, or dislike for the PC platform. Its just preferred to play on console, and that is a good enough reason without any explanation required. Just wish other's would get off their "high horse" with this master race BS, and this is coming from a PC gamer.

[Null1980]

Plus the PC would open you up the Steam catalogue and games unavailable for none of the consoles. Technically, since XB1 is a Windows 10 gaming machine, You'd need to buy a Steam box also to keep up with value. I do suppose the backwards compatibilty adds value to some XB gamers.

I only recently got back into PC gaming after getting a new rig. I needed it, not just for gaming. XB1 is a good value for people who only want to play XB and multiplatform titles.

I agree it's worth paying a bit more and have XB1, Steam, Blizzard etc titles all in the same place. You'll also get the best value for you dollar, even if a bit more, having the more powerful versions of the titles. It's nice now that you can launch all your Steam titles from the XBox interface. Steam has Big screen mode which is very console friendly.

For me, the PS4 Pro (for sheer exclusives not found on PC) and PC are a great combo. I'd also like a Switch. Mine is a laptop, so it's convenient for hooking up to the TV, and I still play many games w a controller. i7-7700, GTX 1060 w 6gb DDR5, 16gb DDR4. Already maxes XB1 games and it's admittedly mid range. Worth the extra investment for me for less restrictive environment, No paid Live Gold.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Short answer. No.

[Allsystemgamer]

That's why you take the long answer. Ends up being of course you can.

[aconnellan]

Mind explaining how? All the evidence alsuggests otherwise

[Protagonist]

@Allsystemgamer

You keep writing the same, yet no proof.

[bluefox755]

I mean, others have already proven that you can, so the short answer is: yes.

[shiva1]

Do you go play in those others house?

Did you fund those others PC's?

Why short answers? Why cut corners when you are talking high end stuff. Till yesterday every body had high end PC's. But now it looks like many have budget PC's....

What's happening at N4G

[blacktiger]

You can not build anyting under $500 or close above because those are outdated in PC industry. They all start $600 and up without a monitor and keyboard and mouse and controller. But they are better in value per dollar wise! End of Discussion.

[Allsystemgamer]

Just because the parts are outdated does mean anything. The CPU in the x1x is extremely outdated. A low end pentium desktop CPU is more powerful than what's in the x1.

Can't bring in the mouse and keyboard argument either. You then have to include controllers, Xbox live, the extra cost of games and a TV if you're going that route.

You can get a mouse and keyboard for a lot cheaper than a controller. A good monitor is cheaper than a bad TV. Pc has no pay to play online and the games are a lot cheaper. Pc ends up a lot cheaper in the end due to no backend fees.

Plus look at the people who want the x1x. They already bought the xbox one. ($500) plus all those years of live. The extra cost of games and now want to spend an extra $500 for the new system?

Coulda just built a gaming pc.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

No idea what you're talking about.

[rainslacker]

Go to Best buy right when school starts back up. You'll find plenty of computers in the $500 range as new things will have come out, and some of them will indeed be more powerful than the Scorpio. You can also go to other places that sell computers as well. People on Ebay are constantly selling their systems on the cheap which are more powerful than Scorpio.

One doesn't need to build a computer to get the best deal. Just need to shop around and know when to shop.

[shiva1]

So is this happening in millions or the select few stores and select stock

[rainslacker]

It's select stock which is on clearance. It's not a solution for the masses, but if one is patient, you can easily find a pretty good computer on the cheap. It's not something that is always available. I found the best time to look is right before, or right after school starts, typically in the late August to early September time. Most new pre-built PC builds come out in early August and make their way to the supply chain by then.

[kevnb]

People spend between 500 and 2 grand on pcs with no intention of gaming, compare the cost of a video card if you must but otherwise this is a pointless comparison.

[Razzer]

Building a gaming PC for $500 is difficult. But screw that. Why limit yourself to the specs of the Xbox One X? Spend the extra cash and you will have a PC that runs circles around One X and you really can achieve native 4k/60. Plus...you won't be limited by the One X library.

[kingjames18]

Sure I mean why not right? Just screw it because what is a good $1200 on a half decent pc right? Its not like there just might be a market for those who might actually find $499 for a console a good deal and enjoy it for what it is and enjoy the 4kUHD BluRay that comes with it as well.

[Razzer]

I'm talking about building a PC alternative to One X. Not saying anything about a lack of market for One X.

[rainslacker]

If I was going to spend a significant amount of money on a PC, I certainly wouldn't stop at $500. I'd set a budget of what I'm willing to spend, and get the best I could at that price for the time I get it, maximize the reuse of whatever I may already have(case, PSU, monitor, which I could always upgrade later),

I certainly wouldn't consider the Xbox specs in building it, or any console, because building a PC like that is dumb. Just set a budget and shop around. YOu can get good deals all the time. Anyone who is building a gaming PC and thinking, "Will this match the -insert console here-" is building their PC wrong.

[LordofYogurt]

All these morons. I spent 550 and I run 1080p 60fps on high to max settings. Just go on YouTube and look up budget builds, every last one will mop the floor with any console out today.

[kingjames18]

You may include yourself in that group of morons.

[LordofYogurt]

Screw You

[Sm00thNinja]

Just proves his point enjoy your restriction. BTW were talking about 4k here. A real achievement by Microsoft

[LordofYogurt]

Why would I get restricted?! He insulted me...and you can build a 4K rig for less than 500 easy.

[Sm00thNinja]

You changed your comment. You said F... You stop playing coy you were reported for that comment mods can see edited. Also no you cannot. Enjoy

[glenn1979]

Short story NOPE

[kingjames18]

Part for part you can't recreate the Xbox One X for the same price or less. To even suggest it is stupidity. Those on here trying to recreate it are missing parts or using lower end parts so that's a fail. Just admit it the Xbox One X is a great unit for the price.

[Tko1111]

Hell no pc is an open platform and as such requires almost double or a lot more power. it is hard for devs to optimize for specific cards which causes certain powerful pcs to still suffer horribly because of it

[m2stech]

Wouldnt make any sense, xboxx is made on bulk order and microsoft confirmed they will be selling it at a loss too. PC parts though are sold individually each including tax and profit to seller.

[Razuel]

ya, lately prices are a bit too high for low budget builds. Like all components, not just video cards or cpu's. Just threw a build together for 750,, should of been no more than 600.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

So. Consoles have an advantage over pcs in that they are waaay more efficient for graphics than a pc. They have to be to keep the price down. That's why they customize chipsets. They are only dealing with one config so they can optimize it at a hardware level (custom silicon). So just simply matching the specs is misleading because with the same specs the console will perform better. You have to go higher on the of side to match the output. More powerful pcs are more powerful just by shear brute force.

[V0LT]

None of this matters... The XB is stuck with what it has and can't be upgraded.

[shiva1]

Man you should be owning one of those super computers

[pyroxxx]

Don't be ridiculous,.. you make no sense

[TheOptimist]

I built a PC without all those fancy cases and Blue Ray drive (Tell me which PC game comes in Blue Ray, then I'll add that) with an i5-6500 and a GTX 1070 in 700$ in October last year. By the time the XBX launches, my PC will cost around 500$ first hand with Black Friday and all. Sooooooo.....?

[ocelot07]

That is actually a good attempt. Rx 580 is a very good card. The fx 8320 is an OK cpu but old but then again will get the job done. Not sure why oem windows prices are $32 in the US here in the UK you can get oem win 10 64bit key for about £5. Use the money u saved and buy a USB WiFi adapter if needed.

[LordoftheCritics]

Lol the 1X is an achievement in console design

I have multiple gaming pc's and for 500 i cannot build something like that.

[Athos]

As someone that has built his own PC's for 30 years I can guarantee you aren't going to build a PC for $500 that is anything above mediocre. I like how these guys omit hardware and obviously pirate their operating system.

Here is a hint, 8gb - 12 gb of ram is a joke in the PC world, the gtx1060 is a joke for 4K, you need a lot of video ram to handle 4K textures, you need a fast memory bus and a good processor as games aren't optimised like a console. Everyone omits a UHD drive but the X1 has it for movies and sorry 4K streaming isn't close in bit rate.

Enjoy your $500 PC chugging on 1080p at medium settings. Anyone who says they can build a PC comparable to a PS4 pro or X1 for their respective prices is a liar or just an idiot who loves to hear themselves talk.

[LordofYogurt]

Lol 500 can build a beast of a computer dude you have NO idea wtf you're talking about.

[Athos]

@LordofYogurt

You sir, are an idiot.

[LordofYogurt]

A 1070 MINIMUM!!?! LOL 😂

[rlow1]

C4rnos, convenient to do away with the Blueray, if it's a fair comparison then you can't take out what you don't want. Just so you can prove a point.....pretty much make your arguments, we'll pointless

[bluefox755]

They overspent a bit. For instance, the FX-8300 is a bit more powerful than the CPU in the Xbox, and you can get a G4560 which is a little bit better than the FX for $30 cheaper. With the RAM and VRAM in the build it totals 16gb , which is more the Xbox (would be more accurate to get a RX 580 gb). Bluray drive is simply unnecessary for PC gaming, I understand they're trying to match it, but it would make more sense to try and match performance @ price, rather than worry about pointless components. So factor in all of these things, $30 less for cpu, $43 less for unnecessary optical drive, $41 less for 4gb model of 580, you have $538. So $38 more than the Scorpio, you have a system that will outperform the Scorpio. Given a bit of time and patience, you could get this price down even further waiting for better deals/rebates. So if you're goal is to match it part for part, you might have a little bit of trouble, but if your goal is to match/exceed the performance for the same price, it's absolutely doable, and will become easier yet as time goes on and prices drop.

[shiva1]

As the time goes by would xbox one x price increase? What sort of logic is that?

[JsonHenry]

No, but the price isn't subsidized either like the Xbox1.

[FPSFox]

I'm a PC guy 100% but there is no arguing the upfront cost to a PC is definitely higher. Note, the people saying you need to blow over a grand don't know what they are talking about, but yes, the cost to start is higher. The advantage comes later when you're not paying online membership fees and never really paying full price for newly released games. Your pockets will definitely be heavier a few years down the road.

[Shadowlee]

No, @ $500 youd be lucky to even match ps4pro. Countless comparisons have already been done and devs giving their comments.

[KingTrash]

No. End of story.

[JasonKCK]

No

[RegorL]

Can you buy a PC with XBox One X performance now?
Can you buy a XBox One X now?

So, real question. Can you buy a PC with XBox One X performance in November?
I would be really surprised if you can not...

[iggsta3o5]

https://www.youtube.com/res...

[Mega_Volnutt]

They should've named the Scorpio, Xbox One 4K instead of X, to attract dumb casual gamers into getting the system, just because it says 4K. The "X" name is quite consfusing to the average gamer. Also, 4K games standard file size is 70GB off your hardrive, well that sucks. So for me, I'm totally ok with 1920p or upscaled 4k for now.

[LAWSON72]

RX580 $200
FX8320 $125
Mobo $50
Case $50
PSU $50
RAM 8GB $50
HDD $50

This PC is $25 over $500 without Windows. It really does not get any better than this besides maybe swapping CPU with $80 fx6300. This PC maybe cost more but at least devs won't limit your $525 set of HW to 30fps like with the X1X.

[Shadowlee]

Lol recheck your math plus 1X out performed RX580 in test and devs said a pc wiuld need 12gb to compete. Gonna need a 1070 + 12gb ram if you want to = or surpass 1X

[Razzer]

"1X out performed RX580 in test"

What test?

[LAWSON72]

You got sources, do you just pull tests out of your ass.

There was one article where a idiot tried to compare the Tflops between a AMD and Nvidia GPU, let's just say that is an inaccurate it way to judge a GPU.

As for RAM that build would have 8GB DDR3 and 8GB GRRD5, which will cause no bottlenecks or in other words hold back performance in gaming. It is also 4GB more RAM so their is that benefit.

You ignorant console gamers need to not talk about specs and performance because a PC enthusiast knows more than you.

[Shadowlee]

https://youtu.be/EYfj0Ah0Sf...

Here you go everyone knows a gtx1060 beats rx580 and scorpio just trashed 1060

[Razzer]

Oh...that. typically performance of hardware is compared across more than one game. That is hardly conclusive. Leadbetter even acknowledged this.

Strange that they did not show measured fps for Scorpio there though.

[Ashunderfire86]

No not possible!

[_-EDMIX-_]

Probably, but it won't perform as good as a XBOX X.

Performance is better when the GPU is on the board and not through PC-E which actually has a bottleneck. So any PC to the specs of console will be by default lessor in terms of performance.

Until we get a PC with a mother board where the GPU and CPU are both on the board, we won't get such performance that is equal on a spec by spec basis with console vs PC of the same specs. Many ask this question and its been answered to death lol

[Apocalypze]

It is a FACT that DEDICATED HARDWARE will always surpass a PC. PC is overrated.

[Razzer]

If you are talking at the same price point....well, yeah. But "always surpass a PC"? lol.....no.

[Doge]

I don't get these comparisons. Why try to match and limit to a console budget when you can vastly exceed that with the bonus of not having to pay to play online and have access to a much larger game library? And that's not including all the things you can do with the platform.

[authentic]

I thought X1X gpu was like a GTX 1070? ($400 card)

[defiance187]

You are not getting 4k 30 in modern games with that. It's also not factoring the keyboard, mouse, or controller. It's also missing a 4k bluray drive. I love PC but this isn't even close to the same tech in the x. PC is front loaded on cost consoles are back loaded. ie PC your rig is expensive but you can get software cheap if your patient and no online fees. Consoles are cheap hardware but the software remains higher priced and you pay to play.

[WheatBread]

You xbox one fanboys are dumb as f**k.

[shiva1]

Which nerve did the fans hit this time?

[DAEMONIFEAR]

No you can't!! I build pcs for a living and a pc for $500 just no!

[defiance187]

Just to give PCWorld props because the article is grounded and realistic in what can be achieved on these rigs. I still think keyboard mouse should be included in price but you guys trying to lump a monitor in are high. Thats like including the price of your TV in the cost of the console.

[KillBill]

And the answer is no. Though people have put PCs together at low prices they have not been able to perform as well as XB1X with same games.

Also, they more often than not completely leave out 4K Bluray and other aspects of XB1X.

[Platformgamer]

Tell me that is possible, i'd laugh so hard to it

[Dragonopolis]

The article must be a bit old pricing had gone down..... also I would consider a Rysen 1600 in the upgraded build.
it is not much more than i5-7400 money wise...... But Rysen 1600 has a slightly faster base and very fast Turbo and Overclocks better for those who cares.....(Overclocking is pretty easy now and Rysen 1600 comes with a Stock Cooler).

Also I already have a Windows 10 Pro Gaming Machine that only 8 Gb of Ram and if you want to game at 4K resolutions 8 GB of Ram isn't going to cut it..... Some games really hit the System Memory Hard the the GPU memory does little..... Problem with that ??? Windows is running and is taking up some of that 8 GB.... Plus I just spent $1000 on a computer I"m going to use it for more than gaming so there might be other applications running in the background. What if you like to stream games live? or Video chat while playing... Multiple Monitor Setup (even if you don't use to play the game across the entire screens some people like to have their Desktop always available or other programs off to the side without switching...

16 GB ram...... I saw a similar sets roughly between $125 and $135 for 3000 MHz at Amazon all overclockable to 3200 MHz which is Ideal memory speed for Ryzen CPU Processors.
This is what PC gaming gives you that console gaming doesn't options so yes pay $1000 dollars or more but I won't be able to do the stuff I'm talking about above on a console........

I game on a console and I love console gaming there is a need for it and I like that it levels the playing field a bit on the hardware side....

But PC gaming is still more expensive 4K gaming option..... However it does give you more "Hardware options, upgrades, and configurations" to choose from if you wish.....

[Ulf]

You can't, plain and simple.

[mahmoods26]

I think if you change some of the components it is possible. Go for a 3770 i7 with 8gb ddr3 ram and a gtx 970. That's enough to reach a 4k 30fps framerate.

[Mbofa6om]

Fans article 🤣
I know it's hard to see a new monster beating the most powerful console from sony
R.I.P ps4

[MagicBeanz]

If its not now by the time its launched it will be. Also many people already have PCs on par or with a simple relatively inexpensive upgrade to their GPU or RAM could easily match specs or beat them.