Shu Yoshida: PS4 Shadow of the Colossus Is "Definitive Version;" "Continuing to Listen" on Remasters

Sony's Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida talks about remasters and Shadow of the Colossus.

[Majin-vegeta]

Remasters??Well then *slides paper*
http://orig09.deviantart.ne...

That is all

[Grap]

Wasn't Shadow of the Colossus already had HD treatment? how many times can one resell the same thing?

[Flakhound]

Ask Square Enix. They manage to resell Final Fantasy X / X-2 and Kingdom Hearts every chance they get.

[Summons75]

This is a remake...completely different from a port.

[Grap]

More like anti consumer move by sony. People want BC not selling them the same game over and over.

[KingDustero]

HD and remaster are two different things. They're taking the game and giving it a current gen look and feel. Not just increasing the resolution.

[UCForce]

If this was cash grab, it would have been remastered. Remake is remade everything from scratch to make everything looks modern. Even so, the gameplay going to be much more smoother in Remake. Look at Crash Bandicoot Remake, the game look and play better than the original Crash.

[r2oB]

@ Grap

Halo on Xbox
Halo Anniversary on Xbox 360
Halo in TMCC on Xbox One

Microsoft beat them to it, are they anti consumer too? Is Halo apart of BC?

[_-EDMIX-_]

This is a remake

[_-EDMIX-_]

@ Grap

Oh yes, because Nintendo's VC isn't selling you the same thing over and over and over

I mean bro "how many times can one resell the same thing?"

Man bro seems like a " anti consumer move by Nintendo"

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

This is a remake! Do you need someone to explain you the difference between remaster and remake?

Also, Nintendo has resold its games multiple times without even remastering them.

[alstruck]

Im hoping its more like ratchet and clank, they also have a hd version in ps3.

[babadivad]

Sony has been the undisputed KINGS of remasters this gen.

[FallenAngel1984]

I would hope a remake is the definitive version of a game

[JunMei]

I know it wouldn't, but I really wish it'd include 3d support like the PS3 version of the game. I played through the PS3 version in 3D and it was absolutely stunning. It's too bad 3D didn't really catch on with anyone except the highest A/V aficionados.

[fenome]

It'd be cool if they could incorporate the 3D mode into PSVR.

[Nitrowolf2]

I dont think 3d will ever catch on fully. It seems to always pop up and then fade back away only for it to resurface again.

[TWB]

I think 3D has a better chance of becoming a thing on the long run than VR, but there never seems to be a practical implementation of it. It would need to be dynamic, glassles, not cause sickness/headache and not have much of a performane impact.

VR will pretty much always require a closed off box to keep you focused on the screens, and good audio experience.

Though VR is so much more radically different from normal viewing experience that it has a much bigger pull than the regular 3D effect on TVs. It should be easier to market VR as something completely new and wild.

[UnHoly_One]

I'm so glad 3d went away. I just never "got it".

Maybe I'm too old. I just want a plain flat screen with a good picture. No gimmicks.

[gangsta_red]

So it is just a remaster of the original game. I wonder how many times they can remaster and sell the same game back to their fanbase? Here's still hoping that they add something more to this like Ratchet & Clank and FF 7 besides just updated graphics.

[Nyxus]

This is the first time they remake the game.

[gangsta_red]

Sorry, it was a typo. I meant 'remaster' this game.

[Nyxus]

@ gangsta_red: But it's not a remaster, it's a remake.

[Majin-vegeta]

It's a "REMAKE" not "REMASTER".Get it right.

[gangsta_red]

Yea, I was a little confused myself because in the two stories they keep referring it as a Sony is treating this as a remaster and others are calling it a remake. Then you have this quote...

"Yoshida-san said that this new version of Shadow of the Colossus is the “definitive version,” with everything recreated, all the assets have been remade from scratch to use the latest tech. According to Yoshida-san the game is “so beautiful.”"

Which sounds like a remaster and not an actual remake.

I'm still hoping for a lot more to be added and even changed as this was my favorite game from team ico.

[Sunny_D]

"all the assets have been remade from scratch to use the latest tech. According to Yoshida-san the game is “so beautiful."

What? How in the world does that still sound like a remaster? It's using recent tech. Remaster is increasing the resolution and cleaning up the picture a bit with a little bit sharpness added to the textures but not fully remade.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Gred- Might be the dumbest post I've seen today...smh.

"with everything recreated, all the assets have been remade from scratch to use the latest tech"

Ummmmm I'm not sure how you get "remaster" from that. They are literally telling you they are recreating and it has remade assets from scratch.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So even when he tells you, you hear "remaster" even when he states "remake"? LMFAO!

[SpaceRanger]

" I wonder how many times they can remaster and sell the same game back to their fanbase?"

All we know is that it won't be as close to the number of times Halo has been remastered and sold to its fanbase in every shape or form.

[gangsta_red]

Yea, I don't really know the number of times either. But I'm glad we both agree that remastering games over and over again and selling them back to gamers is pretty much almost a scam.

I wish there was some form of tech that allowed me to play these older titles now...especially since I own the HD remaster of Ico/SoC already.

[darthv72]

Actually... if you want a serious answer to your question, it would be the same number of times.

Both games have an initial release (halo / sotc) as well as a remastered compilation version (halo mcc / ico & sotc) and both will have a remake from scratch (halo anniversary and this new sotc).

[Gazondaily]

Lol Darth dishing out some much needed knowledge 🖒

[UCForce]

@Septic And Moldy is not doing good job about it.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Gred- how is it a scam?

No one is forcing you to buy it bud.

You seem to be willing to give Phantom Dust GOTY and its just a port...doesn't even run 60fps lol

The remake got cancelled too lol

@Darth- why did you skip that it was ported to PC? smh sad

[darthv72]

My bad ED... then again the PC version is neither a remaster nor a remake. It is a port. Also, if you want to get technical. The remake of Halo Anniversary on 360 was the one that was remastered on the MCC for XB1 where as this SotC is a remake of the PS3 remaster from the PS2.

I believe Bluepoint is using their work from the HD remaster as the basis for this remake as opposed to using the PS2 version as the starting point. Basically where MS received a remaster of a remake... Sony is receiving a remake of a remaster.

[SpaceRanger]

"I believe Bluepoint is using their work from the HD remaster as the basis for this remake as opposed to using the PS2 version as the starting point. "

Nah, I doubt that. This isnt Halo.

[Darkfist_Flames]

the word "remaster" and "remake" has been used differently on many games, they called Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy a remaster when its more like a remake with all those animations and changes, while R&C is a "reimagine". Shadow of the colossus is a remake, compare to the ps3 which was just an hd remaster without upgrading the graphics.

[Elda]

Yep I don't understand why some folks are confused.It's the original game with the same assets but built from the ground up so it looks modern & plays better which is a remake.A remaster is the same game with everything intact with some enhancements & cleaned up so it looks clear & clean on a hd screen.

[blackblades]

How the hell did you quote what he said and then say it's sounds like a remaster. "remade from scratch to use the latest tech" your such a gangsta dumbass.

[freshslicepizza]

How can they say they listen to remaster requests and then be tone deaf to backwards compatability requests?

[Z501]

Didn't the PS4 reveal say no BC.

[freshslicepizza]

Yes, so I guess they aren't really listening are they?

[Summons75]

So did the original Xbox One reveal but they changed their minds about it. Wouldn't be hard for Sony to do something similar.

[Z501]

I don't want Sony to get a taste of doing 180's.
This one might be good. The next, not so much. So on and so on.
Because of what they said at the reveal. I kept my PS3. Silly me.

[KillZallthebeast]

Those are two different things. Thats like trying to cram a vhs tape into a blu ray player instead of porting the vhs tape onto the disc and cleaing it up digitally.

[PygmelionHunter]

Oh really? So all those PS3 games on PS Now are "cleaned up digitally"?

Let's be honest here. Remakes are fine, but Sony's approach on BC is absolute rubbish this gen.
This kind of greedy crap happens because consumers allow it.

[freshslicepizza]

Its the same pool of users that send various requests so again how can they say they truly listen? What is boils down to is business decisions at the end of the day. They are not going to remaster just any game regardles of fans wanting it unless they see a return in the investment.

[KillZallthebeast]

He was saying backward compatibility and remasters. Remasters being cleaned up digitally, backwards compatibility generally just rips from the main source with no effort.

However remakes are entierly different as well being as they completley rebuild the game. Look to ratchet and clank 2002 or whenever and it remake in 2016. That is a remake.

[TWB]

@PygmelionHunter

No, thats more like you watching a stream of the VHS over the Internet, from the original VHS recorder.

[Thatguy-310]

This isn't a remaster. Damn you guys are idiots lmao do you people know the difference from a remastered and a remake? The game was worked from the ground up using using current gen hardware. Let me make it easier for you. Phantom dust was going to get a remake but then was scratched off to just a simple remastered which led to the crappy thing they released for free. This is the opposite of that. :)

[Darkfist_Flames]

LOL thats true.

[GravelerMagnitude9]

i wish people would understand that PS4 cannot offer backwards compat to PS3 due to the cell architecture of PS3.

The developers of said PS3 games would need to re-edit their whole games to port it to PS4.

It seems like every day, someone keeps making a big deal out of backwards compatibility.
While having backwards compat is a good feature and convient, it is just that and nothing more.

If you want to play old games, there are old consoles that can do such. With these current consoles we want new things.

A remake is better than a remaster, so to downplay a remake is foolish.

[Elda]

Agreed.

[The Great Melon]

PS3 is understandable for those who know about the architecture, but they could still offer PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility. My ancient 10 year old computer can emulate those two systems...

[Gazondaily]

Because it's a balance between being 4theplayers and 4theinvestors

[UCForce]

Poorly comment and poorly executed.

[_-EDMIX-_]

" tone deaf to backwards compatability requests?"

Because no one cares.

Buy a PS3 if you want it that bad, its like used $80.

You can't buy a remake buddy, that has to be made first.

I'll rather ask them for something to be made, then for something I ALREADY OWN!

[343_Guilty_Spark]

More remasters and Zombies

[UCForce]

A remake is allow the old game to look even more modern with modern control. Look at Crash Bandicoot remake.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I enjoyed the Last Guardian so finally finishing this should be a treat

[Ristul]

"More remasters and Zombies"

"I enjoyed the Last Guardian so finally finishing this should be a treat"

Did you forget to sign in to your other account or something. lol...

[SpaceRanger]

Busted!

[_-EDMIX-_]

LMFAO!

EXPOSED!

[MegamanXXX]

Hopefully better controls

[nucky64]

if they're listening, where is demon souls!!!!!!!!!!?????

[UCForce]

Time will tell.

[VsAssassin]

They are listening, but not listening to every request. If they do, we won't have original IPs in no time, and they will find themselves in a similar position as the Xbox in which they too lack real exclusives.

On-topic: I am stoked to play this with remade graphics. I wonder what bonuses they will add?

[nucky64]

IF they would remake it, that broken arch needs to lead somewhere.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Who knows, they could be working on it right now.

I actually thought at E3 that the footage for this game was Demon Souls lol Saw Blue Point games and I was like "THIS IS IT" lol

[nucky64]

for a couple of seconds, I did too.

[WeAreLegion]

How about VR mode? Nothing special. Just put us in 3D space. Wouldn't be much work. VorpX already does it externally on PC games.

[kevinsheeks]

I haven't played the last guardian and I didn't get to finish shadow of col . . which one is better?

[Elda]

I enjoyed TLG...a unique & touching game.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't know. I like both games ,TLG was just an amazing game though.

Both are great games, but I feel maybe too different to really compare. This is really a to each his own type thing.

[luis_spartano]

As soon as I saw this article, I went to Twitter and sent a message to Yoshida asking for Syphon Filter, Sly Cooper and Resistance. All of you should do it too!

[ssj27]

I love this remake is one I will buy. Now remake socom confrontantion. Do it right. Bug free smooth gameplay. 60fps 4k and get your over million copy sales. With potential of saling few more aince competitive tactical shooters have become the thingm something somehow sony ignore to see it happening but every one did

[Elda]

This must be the game they said Bluepoint was doing for a cult fav PS game.The same game built from the ground up with a modern look better controls & framerate.Couldn't get into the original game because it had issues now I will finally play it.I enjoyed Ico & The Last Guardian hopefully I'll enjoy this one when released.

[TargusX]

Please release for Xbox/Switch?

[Majin-vegeta]

Haha it's a sony owned IP.

[S-Word]

I'll just wait for yet another remastered version in 4k on the PS5.

[FernDiggidy]

Never played the original, so for folks like myself this is one hell of a TREAT! Thank you SONY.

[rlow1]

Well, I like re-masters of games I've played and have never played. As long as the price is right I'll pick this up, since I never did get the chance to play it. Winner.........Everyone.

[Einhander1971]

It does look beautiful PS3 version was OK but more effort could have been put in. PS4 version looks stunning in every way.

[Snakefist30]

Soccom Remaster Plz

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol no. That game needs a full on remake. Just too old lol

[masterjapes]

Still hoping for a God of War "remaster." Just imagine how good that threesome would look with today's graphics!