At Microsoft’s E3 conference there were a lot of new games. Some were part of a bombardment of indie, ID @ Xbox titles, one of them being Project Code: SHIFT. The full trailer and some details have emerged.
Developers of the upcoming 2D hack and slash title talk about having the power to push the game's limits.
They already had that power on PC, I don't see what the X brings to the table that wasn't already there.
We're talking about console gaming here. You know this, yet you insist on bringing up the leverage a PC can have. Again, we're talking about console evolution. This has nothing to do with PC, get it?
Console article Eddie..Also, the equivalent that you get with th X including the 4k Bluray drive is quite a bit cheaper than if you retailed similar specs on a pc for purchase.
Take the PC talk to a PC forum where you guys can compare your video cards and who has the bigger rig. Lol.
You mean who can blow the most money in order to post the best Future Mark scores?
EddieT,
"They already had that power on PC"
- No shiii, Sherlock....next you'll tell me jets are still faster than the new Bugatti Chiron.
-Then I suppose you'll try to convince me a jet doesn't cost much more than a Bugatti (Bugatti Chiron $2 million, F-35 Raptor $160 million)...lol, just in case you actually try.
Lots of sensitive console fans here I see. Having now seen the art style of this game I can see that having that much RAM will do little to nothing to help the developer. Hardly a demanding game.
Agreed. The extra ram was absolutely necessary. Gives a lot of extra leeway. Witcher 3 loading in an instant on a console is remarkable. Keep up the good work Microsoft.
@ sin7279
it's still 12gigs. 9gigs is just allocated to games development (for now!)
Given Microsoft's history with some of the best tech engineers in the world the good news is they will definitely shrink that OS footprint to give devs even more of that 12gigs.
@4Sh0w
Yep yep! Soon they will add that feature. And if i am not mistaken they already did with the XB1.
Like incredible years in advance tech, animations, shaders, physics? Oh wait, any game this dev makes for X is coming to standard Xbone too. Never mind.
@ andersquall...Stop trolling..So what if the same games comes out for the XS...By your logic lower spec'd gaming pc's are bringing down higher end gaming pcs...Which is not the case in the least. As with PC the games on the X will be at higher graphic settings, higher resolution with better frame rates where the XS will be at lower settings..... Same game, but one will look and preform significantly better, but you knew that already.
They can make everything scalable now, it's not like back in the days of lowest common denominator.
Exactly. If the game is playable on the original xb1, are they saying the game is shit on the xb1?
@rob
That isn't his logic at all.
There was a time when consoles used custom hardware, which games would eventually be optimized for, and push visuals far beyond people might have expected.
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The x will never be pushed to its limits as it's held back by the original xbox one.
Nope big pappy. By Xbox one. They can make the game look better. But in order to have game compatibility across all games, Xbox one s and Xbox one x have to play **exactly** the same online.
Xbox one x has more power than the base but developers can't change the animation, physics, objects onscreen, etc unless it's a single player experience. But most developers aren't going to waste their time and money doing that. All you will get is a bump in graphics detail and resolution.
PS4 has nothing to do with it. It's more like PS4 Pro has to play the same as the base PS4 online.
Bigpappy
"And PS4 pro"
Yep, Xbox One is certainly held back by Sony's wide variety of exclusives so I guess you have a point for once.
Bigpappy,
Pretty sure that worked the other way around with multiplatform titles (and still does until this thing releases).
Ultimately, the original Xbox One will hold it back. Development is very similar between the two and they share 100% of their library. PlayStation has its own games, so don't worry about them.
So if you have ANY complaints about what's holding the most powerful console back, you should probably blame the weakest.
@Bigpappy HAHA, how can PS4 Pro hold back Crackdown 3 on XboneX when it is solely the Xbone doing that? And apply the exact same thing to just about every Xbone/Win 10 exclusive, with PS4 Pro being NOTHING to do with it.
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you said that as if this wasn't an xbox article that wasn't talking about xbox for the xbox fans. so what are you doing here playslave? im sure there's plenty of playslave news for you to go and overdose to. go see about that and avoid anything with xbox in it so you don't have to deal with xbox fans. you'd save yourself a lot of time and headache.
They really are out in full force lately, lol. They are fun to mess with though.
Yup. Here we go. If it’s not being pushed now, imagine how badass it will be when it is. Cuz it’s already fantastic. Everybody celebrate (except salty PS4 fanboys)
Why would it be? Developers were primarily making 360 games with that hardware in mind, so it was easy to push it to the limit.
Every XO game has to run on the base model. No dev is going to specifically make a game for the iterative XO X like they did with 360.
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Of course a 2001 console won’t hold back a 2013 console.
Games can be made on scalable hardware. But a game that scales won’t look as ambitious as a game that is built primarily for the high end hardware. Compare the games that were released on both 7th and 8th gen consoles to the games that only released on 8th gen consoles.
A game can be built for the X and original Xbox one and still take advantage of all its power, these devs ain't stupid they will know how to do it. Plus one way would be to increase map sizes, player limits, open buildings up that would normally be closed in previous machines. I mean I'm no coder or dev but they will have or find there ways to utilize all that power despite a console being linked to another, ms have done an excellent job at cracking stuff this gen and they aren't the only ones who can do it, no more than Sony are the only ones that have exclusives anyway
Keep in mind that since games are created mostly on PC's, then making a game that caters for the X can be as easy as setting some sliders and check boxes like a PC. Then by unchecking certain boxes you get the base model equivalent.
In PC development, they tend to aim high and then work back to more moderate levels. When it was console only, they would develop to what they thought the hardware could do and adjust from there. X is going to improve development for not only the xbo and PC but also the PS4. They now have the tiers for gaming. Ultra (PC), High (X), Medium/High (Pro) and Medium (PS4) and Medium/Low (xbo) and the engines can scale and adapt to any of these platforms.
I was just about to post the same as your self this is what people are not getting and it's another step closer to xbox/PC being on the same page.
Well, most comments on n4g don't make sense anyways so I rather keep it short like xi. Would u prefer an essay full of nonsense instead?
Gears of War? Gears of War 3 looked way better than Gears of War 1, 360 had a lot room left in 2006 even after the original Gears.
Sorry but thus dev seems slightly behind, the game engine was the true showcase which may be what he is after. Once UE4 gets implement Ed, Unity matures, and CryEngine expands it's dev library, then you will see what X1X truly brings.
Gears of war didn't push x360 to it's limits crysis 3 did on both x360 and ps3
Eurogamer
"Have the current-gen consoles finally reached their limits?"
Crytek's Crysis 3 is one of the most technically accomplished games of this generation, a visually spectacular piece of software that pushes graphical boundaries on all platforms. And with all its graphical settings pushed to the max, Crysis 3 on PC effectively offers a "next-gen now"
I personally consider Crysis 3 to the best looking 7th gen console game. In noway did Gear of War 1 max out the 360, its own sequels had more advanced lighting and shaders.
Also confirms native 4K/60fps support for Project Code: SHIFT on Xbox One X.
Tuesday Nov 7. True 4K console gaming is a reality. Can't believe it's really happening this soon!!!!!
🦂
Only its not actually true 4K, so its not happening as soon as you hoped for, temper your expectations.
"True 4K console gaming is a reality."
What EXACTLY do you people mean by this???
The PS4 Pro does TRUE 4K as well and the Xbox One X doesn't do TRUE 4K in all it's games either...
SO WHAT THE !@#$% DOES TRUE 4K CONSOLE GAMING MEAN?! IT'S ALREADY BEEN A REALITY FOR A YEAR!
SOMEONE GIVE ME A FREAKIN INTELLIGENT ANSWER FOR ONCE!!!
LOL. The Brock Lesnar of gaming console. The Beast is indeed awaking..in a week. I can't wait!
@Morgan That's what happens when you ignore performance and focus solely on resolution :) Your fans will still love you, but the rest of us cringe.
@morganfell I speak as someone getting an X and that was a funny riposte to the original comment.
Just needs that NoMans sky jurassic park parody music for Brock staggering around. https://youtu.be/vupCgB8H9O...
"Brock Lesnar given one-year UFC suspension for failing drug test"
So a console that has to cheat to win?
Super excited. iPhone X comes Friday and the one X comes the following Tuesday. F yeah.
Project Code Shift isn't exactly some mind blowing technical tour de force if we're honest. It's a 2D indie hack and slash. Is it on anything other than Xbox One X and PC? They don't have the resources to put it on anything else is what I read. Tiny team and budget.
Strange how they are talking about the hardware like they are pushing it to the limit, I expect this kind of talk more from teams with big budget titles.
they are talking like this because $, same reason why a dev would choose to go Microsoft exclusive despite the much smaller install base (and much lower software sales) on xbox vs playstation.
you are very luck to have gotten a Scorpio edition. I have to say I am envious of that!
Wouldn't a true 4k gaming console never need to fall back on checkerboarding or dynamic scaling?
@ bluefox
Please tell us which other console even comes close? Hmm
Waiting for your quick reply.
Why y'all mad, its been confirmed that not all titles will be running at a native 4k resolution a while back.
It is over bluefox755, the power advantage is real. The Xbox X is what many PS4 fans like myself were hoping for when the PS4Pro was announced. The PS4Pro was a mistake by Sony. I hate to admit it but I'm getting the Xbox X this year.
You silly! Its a true 4K console. The next be truer 4K and the XBOX ONE Z will be the the truest 4K console ever! :-D
And thats a true.
Didn't you hear checkerboard is acceptable now according to them since xbone x uses it, you have to forgive them their hypocrisy its all they know. Apparently all we had to say when they were putting PS4 Pro down for using it was "devs choice on that one" and then call them a troll.
@last
With that idea the og Xbox was a true 1080p console, it was all up to the devs! 😂
Yes, that's EXACTLY what it means.
The X1X is as much of a "true 4k" console as the PS4 Pro is.
You people and your "true 4k" claims are S-T-U-P-I-D.
