Sony's E3 Conference Brought The Games Of 2018, But Forgot About The Present

TSA writes, "This press conference almost felt like a replay of 2016, with many of the games shown simply solidifying a 2018 release date. God of War, Detroit Become Human and Spider-Man, all looked excellent, capable of being real system sellers with huge ambition, but they simply went from being "TBC" to "2018", and that leaves us wondering about the end of this year."

[ps3vita4life]

With games like Uncharted: TLL, HZD DLC, Ni No Kuni 2, Knack 2, GT Sport and more coming out this year in addition to countless third-party games, I'd say they've got this year covered. Plus, Sony has found great success in releasing their biggest hitters in the less-crowded Q1/Q2 period so why change now. I was however slightly disappointed with the lack of surprises compared to previous E3s

[AspiringProGenji]

That is right!

I'm not surprised that this lineup is going over their heads because they are not getting the AAAs they want this year...

"Forgot about the present."
Yeah right...

[yeahright2]

Not to mention the thing with E3 is these guys always save some stuff for later. Tokyo game show, paris games week, games developer conference, PSX. We've got plenty more coming. And that's not even limited to Sony.

[fiveby9]

I agree. These articles are just ridiculous. Trying to diminish a show that was full of content. Sony setting up for a great 2018 and likely a very strong holiday season this year. And frankly I feel the same for MS's show. They both did decent job. Trying to raise yourself up by pushing someone else down is not a successful strategy. Do I think X1X will dominate the market suddenly? No. But if the product works for some people, fine by me. Enjoy your gaming platform of choice. Kinda glad with PC and PS4 I will have plenty of choice.

[4Sh0w]

So now we are going to count DLC like a brand new full game? lol, by that logic Microsoft released alot of new games this year.

'meh they both had games, but most indies from Microsoft and all the VR stuff from Sony bored me. Microsoft deffinitely showed more quantity with lots of variety, but Id probably play only about 1/4 of what they showed. Sony definitely showed more quality exclusives but it was the same stuff from last year. Now the excuses I'm hearing for both is their saving stuff for either Gamescom or Tokyo, yeah right, they could have still shown more and then had great floor gameplay demos at those events....as usual. BOTH dropped the ball with no huge announcements.

Fanboys from both sides are making these company's complacent.

Sony C+
Microsoft C

[AspiringProGenji]

Who is counting DLC as a new game? Uncharted TLL is an standalone expansion and has the lenght of most games nowadays BTW, and Horizon DLC is a very cool addition and will have length

also if W3 DLCs were ridiculously considered a new games to the point people debated whether it deserves to be nominated as goty, whu can't horizon be considered one as well?

And when you exclude Horizon DLC, there's still Crash Trilogy, GT Sport, Knack 2, Hellblade and Ni No Kuni 2 (not exclusives but still part of the lineup) and Materfall. That is a cool lineup and very diversed

[tyasia0]

Personally my favorite part was when Shawn said "True Exclusive" twice in a row at the end... I have to wonder if he saw this comment where I said this "I hope they say "true exclusive" a lot.. like every other word lol" http://n4g.com/news/2068111...

Anyways I'll assume it was just coincidence, but I'd like to believe he read it and thought it was funny.

[lodossrage]

@4Show

"So now we are going to count DLC like a brand new full game? lol, by that logic Microsoft released alot of new games this year. "

Oh don't even start that. How many times have people counted new seasons of Killer Instinct as if it was a new game?

[4Sh0w]

No, I never counted Killer Instinct seasons, Forza DLC, Gears4, Halo5 or any other expansion when discussing new exclusives coming out. That's BS, no matter how good that's just not a new game and the problem is once you do that the lines become very blurry as to what are new releases for each console and what's not. Now I got no problem with being excited for new content, FH3 Hot Wheels is giving me all kinds of new playtime but I never responded to "Xbox has no games" with "No, there was Halo Wars2 this year, FH3 Hot Wheels, Halo5 this, and Gears4 that, etc...it just doesn't make sense in a(new) games lineup discussion ause it's understood folks are discussing separate new releases.

I'd acknowledge a full remaster like Shadow of the Collossus is considered new in terms of the lineup shown because it's a remake of a very old game, not currently on the platform. My point is what are we exactly counting when we say a consoles games lineup for the year, is DLC now separate games?

[Markusb33]

I did expect crash team racing, new sucker punch, new from software and a price cut or at least one of those.
I know they have to spread out announcements but 1 big surprise would have been good.

[Aenea]

Yeah I expected more NEW announcements, but those would not have been for this year either anyways.

I think Sony is trying to not announce games too early, or they are saving them for other shows (Tokyo, Paris, Gamescom, PSX)

[yeahright2]

New sucker punch no show was a disappointment. but I did kind of half expect them to save it for PSX. I have a feeling that they're going to start treating PSX as a showcase for the indies, pet projects and one big gun. Sucker punch being said big gun this year.

[Saigon]

Just because it was a no show during the presentation does not mean t\a game developed by them wasn't there. E3, especially Sony during this time, is known to have secret meetings with the press to show a game that wasn't ready to present to the public. A great example of this was Infamous. This game was a secretly developed by sucker Punch for a while on the PS3 and for the longest the press where the only ones that new of the game. I am sure sony has done this with the rumored games from those developers during this E3. So now we need to watch out for TGS GDC PGW and PSX.

[Ashunderfire86]

You didn't find Monster Hunter World and Shadow of Collossus remake surprising? Those were fricking awesome!!!

[AnubisG]

They were nice, but not megatons. Compared to last years E3 this was a lettdown.

[ninsigma]

Both trademarks got picked up on before the show and posted on here so it wasn't as surprising as it could have been. Putting possible spoilers in article titles is b*llocks

[Glak18]

The rumor is Sony is going to produce a new tv series called 21 Jump Street next year. Then in 7 years are going to make a movie based on the 2017 tv show. The new service is called Digital Remaster Remake Digital Streams 4U.

Only on the RemakeStation.

"Remakeness awaits you!"

Spoiler:
ICO remaster remake follows shortly.

[joab777]

And that doesn't even include Horizon, Nioh, Nier, P5 and many others we already have this yr. You could spend the entire year and not finish just the PS4 exclusive content. So what is this author talking about?

I think they have lined themselves up perfectly, and laugh at articles like this.

[Phill-Spencer]

Ikr im still not nearly finished with yakuza zero after completing nioh (only 1 playthrough) and horizon. Yet i haven't even bought persona 5, yooka layle and BotW. They all are very time consuming. Crash is around the corner and it's a day one because it is one of the few games my wife is also wants to play, thats 3 games added to my pile of games. Uncharted dlc in august and i keep an eye on how cod ww2 turns out and how much content vanilla destiny 2 offers same as battlefront2.

I'm easily covered for the rest of the year and almost have to put in work to not generate a even bigger backlog.

[Z501]

I guess the author has already completed Dragon Quest Heroes, World of Final Fantasy, The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush 2, Nioh, Horizon & Persona 5 /

[leeeroythe3rd]

Knack 2 ... yeah good luck. Ni no... appeals to tiny audience nice game though... gt sport, so when is this amazeballs racer going to show itself? Dud onarrival

That leaves the back story game that was peiced together mid development of uncharted4 and an expac for a great game.
Pretty light on exclusive content to bring people to make either or choice.

[Ceaser9857361]

"But Forgot About The Present"
Whoa!! someone's living under the rock... I guess it was Dec 2016 and then June 12th 2017 for the writer... He totally forgot about the no. of games (not just okay games) which received good reviews released in Q1.. Then we have Hellblade (coming on pc) , Lost Legacy, GT SPORTS and Horizon Dlc The Frozen wild to follow...

[Relientk77]

Sony held back

They have more

[Relientk77]

Disappointed they didn't show Ni no Kuni 2 during the conference. It's the PS4 game I'm most looking forward to in the fall. It deserves to be on the main stage. All JRPGs in general deserve it.

Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, and Final Fantasy 12 remastered also coming out this year...

[Ron_Danger]

Here's the Ni No Kuni 2 E3 trailer in case you missed it:

https://youtu.be/chNeI2S_qY...

[AspiringProGenji]

That is what Tokio Games Show is for

[Eldyraen]

I have a feeling we will finally see a ton of great more modern rpgs and action titles out of Japan during TGS.

FFXV was really the turning point where these kinds of Japanese Devs started to show the power of PS4 in their games. Before that most were a bit more dated (Star Ocean 5 being one of the "better" dated jrpgs in a world of PS3/Vita/PS4 jrpgs). MGS was probably the first Action title to cross that bridge though but this year we saw a few more joining them (Nioh, Neir, Persona). Bloodborne looks great but even it and DS3 were a little "off" compared to Western games that released during the same time periods and could use a little more in their next installments.

TGS though... new games should be killer but I'm not expecting them all to be equivalent to a Western standard quite yet (many Japanese studios are still smaller than Western ones and several Japanese Devs over the years have stated Japanese game development was still "behind" in a sense and think they're really just now catching up for some of the the bigger players even).

Switch is another device I want to see in TGS. This is actually the Switch's first e3 and TGS after all. Rumors were rampant last year but it wasn't announced until after both came and went. Japan will probably be the Switch's biggest supporter, and that's okay by me for now.

[Good-Smurf]

They did have trailer of Ni no Kuni 2 but it's on during preshow where most people don't give a damn which is a shame.
GT Sport trailers simply went right over most people' heads since it was also on during preshow.
I still cringe about the comments about "why didn't show this x game on the showcase?"
And ProJared thought Uncharted The Lost Legacy E3 trailer were CG!?
It's not that hard to click the replay of the livestream people...

[Hardiman]

I agree this year was the first time I watched the pre show and I have to say I liked a lot of games that were shown then!

[LOGICWINS]

I'm just happy they mentioned Persona 5 at the conference. I want Sony to know that there's still a market for turn-based RPGs.

[Aenea]

It was shown in the pre-show.

They did a lot in the pre-show which I found weird, Knack 2, those PlayLink games, GT Sport, some Indies, some more VR games, etc., etc.

[-Foxtrot]

Well in their defence they did have Horizon, Nioh, Nier and Gravity Rush 2 this year along with the upcoming Crash remake, Ni No Kuni, Horizon/Uncharted expansions and the like. Not always about the holidays when third party games usually take up so much space.

[OB1Biker]

Knack 2 and GTS announced for this year too. People want to put imaginary post limits that everything announced even ten minutes before the official conference doesnt count. Also of course VR games dont count, until Ms says otherwise.

[vallencer]

It's not that the post show doesn't count. It's that your conference is what a huge majority of people watch. So if it isn't announced there a lot of people don't know about it. That's literally the point of a e3 conference.

[Eldyraen]

I don't own a VR yet and probably won't buy one any time soon but a few looked great (a few older ones too). Bethesda has me on the fence more than any other Dev though for VR really. Skyrim and Fallout both were shown on it this year.

[vallencer]

No defence at all. Sony's press conference was super lack luster. Not saying it wasn't good but it wasn't great or amazing. Nothing blew me away. I understand that's a personal thing. The reality is they only announced two games that no-one saw coming that were big worthwhile games. Shadow and monster Hunter. Only one of those games is exclusive. No last of us 2, no new ips. Everyone gets on MS for not having exclusives and then sony announces nothing and all of a sudden it's ok. Come on people.

[-Foxtrot]

No no no the problem with Microsoft is not just because they don't have exclusive line ups at E3 it's because they have hardly any of them during the year.

So while I might not see as many this Holiday I still need to get Nier and Gravity Rush, still need to fully get through Nioh but got distracted by another game so as you can see I still have a lot to get through. Then once Ni No Kuni comes out I'll be on that. Sonys was lacklustre I won't deny that and this isn't a defence of their conference but it was still better

In general E3 sucked money balls this year

[tontontam0]

Thats the problem with teasing a game too early. 3 conference a year and you expect sony or even microsoft to show new games each show?

[never4get]

By now everyone should have the memo, Greatness Awaits.

[vallencer]

Ok but all of sonys games they announced at the conference, not pre show, have dates for next year except uncharted and the horizon dlc. If there are more feel free to tell me. Sonys conference was not better in anyway. They announced less games then microsoft did and not anything new. Sure they have PSX but that doesn't change the fact that they dropped the ball hard for e3. I just don't get how anyway can say it was luck luster but still better when MS just had more and ironically enough different games to show. But hey to each their own.

[Wallstreet37]

Article written by an uninformed, ignorant %:%: Go do your homework and stop fake concern trolling.

[CRASHBASHUK]

the games that are coming out this year most of them were shown in the pre-show like crash and knack 2 etc BUT i think most of the games showen in the pre-show should of been in the main show more

[Jaypi03]

Exactly, they shouldn't have even bothered with it.

[UCForce]

Forget about present, really ? Here : https://mobile.twitter.com/...

[ninsigma]

People will see what they wanna see and ignore that tweet.

[LOGICWINS]

Matterfall is also coming out this year. Yakuza Kiwami, Ys, and Danganronpa V3 is coming out as well. No one has the right to compain about Sony exclusives for 2017.

[Jaypi03]

Oh boy, DLC, sports games, and a sequel to a bad game.

[UCForce]

A "bad"game get the sequel. But the sequel have been improved a lot.

[Jaypi03]

The game isn't even out, so it's really hard to say if the game is bad or not. But it has co op now, so maybe you'll be able to over look the potential flaws if you got a buddy with you.

[UCForce]

But the preview of Knack 2 have been very positive.

[spicelicka]

To be realistic two of those are DLCs you can't count them like full games, every game released now days has DLC. One is a golf game (very very niche), and one is a sequel to a terribly mediocre game, then only game worth noting is GT: Sport.

Sony has had a killer first half with Nioh, Nier, Persona 5, Yakuza, and Horizon, and that will carry them through the rest of the year, but you can't argue that their fall lineup is very strong compared to their usual.

MS screwed up by announcing barely anything. Sony screwed up by showing their future 2018 titles last year and killing the surprise factor. There's a strong future for PS4 with a variety of exclusives but without set dates it's hard to get too excited.

[DaGreatOne]

Just to be clear are we strickly talking about first party only and only on ps4 or do they get some extra room to work with. Because if you include console exclusives than the list grows a little more.

[ninsigma]

So you're saying I didn't see uncharted and horizon for this year??

All kidding aside, that's fine by me. Know why?? They're still releasing lastbyears e3 games this year. How can you write an article saying they forgot about the present when this year they have release top games in gravity rush 2, Nier automata, persona 5, 2 kingdom hearts games and nioh with crash bandicoot, uncharted lost legacy, horizon dlc, GT Sport and ni no kuni 2 still to come. Not to mention ps4 being the best place to play Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, Fifa 18 and COD WW2, all with exclusive content. There's complaining here. Gamers have been spoiled by Sony this year and they just showed us why we can still be excited for gaming in 2018 as well.

[Lilrizky]

I mean they didnt have to.

We know what knack 2 is, people who are going to buy ni no kuni 2, hellblade has been shown enough, yakuza remake is its thing, horizon zero dawn dlc is cool, uncharted lost legacy was shown. I think adding that to like horizon zero dawn, edith finch, persona 5, nier automata, nioh, gravity rush 2, crash remastered, matterfall, nex machina and wipeout shows sony has a monster year.

With gran turismo, spiderman, days gone, detroit, god of war and shadow of collossus already slated for 2018, its a non stopping train putting e3 aside.

Show use stuff in the future. The games this year are close enough and weve seen enough

[TitanUp]

And people for somewhat reason keep missing Gundam Versus out of all these list and I really think it will be better than people expect.

[Lilrizky]

It might. I didnt even know about it. I shall check it out

[tontontam0]

oh so you want sony to be like square?
Show a game that will be released after 10 years

[yeahright2]

It was a good conference in a slew of ok ones. kind of a lackluster E3 this year. But we've been getting so many awesome E3 showing the last few years we were bound to hit a snag.

Personal opinion: between Sony and Ubisoft as far as having the best show. behind them, I'd say Microsoft with Bethesda and Ea tied for last. Ea had the worst conference, but Bethesda lost MAJOR point by going for paid mods.

[Jaypi03]

I know I will get down voted and probably hate for saying this but I would say Sony probably had a really mediocre press conference this year, I mean it's great the they showed a lot of games, games, and games, but none of them are really coming out anytime soon and most of them were what we've seen.

The most interesting game at their conference was a remake of a PS2 game, God of War looked good but i'm ready for it to just come out already, the trailer looked nice but it's beginning to look like more of the cinematic "Last of Us" tier game play we've gotten used to from Sony.

We can keep on blindly defending Sony all we want, or we can view them in a more critical light and acknowledge their faults. What's going on with Backwards compatibility? Changing PSN names? More PS1/PS2 games on their store PSN, and opening up to cross play? Microsoft may have announced the Xbox One X at a price a lot of us may consider too much but at least they announced a whole lot of stuff that actually made their platform more appealing outside of just games.

And not only that, Ubisoft stepped up to the plate and absolutely showed Sony how it should be done, with a mix of game play, good editing, trailers, and then some. I'm thinking Sony got too cocky and began to think they could just throw trailers and scripted game play at us without realizing people go to E3 for the entire show not just the games.

Ubisoft took time to tell you about the games before hand, get you sold and immersed in what you're about to see, then finally showed you it, vs Sony who just threw a bunch of trailers and scripted gameplay at us and ended up disappointing everyone but the hardcore.

[DaGreatOne]

I kinda feel Sony took all the criticizing for showing games too early to heart. Their whole format was just wrong for building hype and I know they had to stick vr games in there to show support but those games really killed any momentum they had going.

[WickedLester]

Agreed on VR. Have it on the show floor, maybe throw a sizzle reel up there, but stop spending so much time on it. Like you said it kills momentum.

[buttcheeks]

Lol FOH PlayStation is already packed with exclusives for the second half of the year these biased "journalist" just ignore games if they are not personally hyped for them for example gt sport a major triple a exclusive for sony gt is the biggest franchise playstation has and yet douches continue to say the have no games this holiday

[Jaypi03]

How are they biased when the site is literally a Playstation based site? If anything they're taking a critical look at Sony beyond just "OH EXCLUSIVES!"

[nucky64]

"forgot about the present"??? I don't agree with sixthaxis. I've already preordered everybodys golf 7 and days gone - the golf hits in august and DG is supposed to be out between aug- oct. I'm really stoked for both of these.

[ninsigma]

Days gone between august and october??

[WickedLester]

Late December but still 2017.

[ninsigma]

Did not notice that get announced....

[nucky64]

I talked to the manager at a local gamestop and he said he'd been hearing that - we'll see. it is supposed to be out this year; and, I consider that "present".

[yomfweeee]

I'm sorry, but this narrative that Sony didn't bring anything new is such bull. Sure, they didn't have a new "AAA" game, but they had way more new stuff than Microsoft or Nintendo.

Also keep in mind, Sony has to save half their accouncements for Playstation Experience, which they also confirmed yesterday will be coming in December.

For some reason they announced many new things prior to the big briefing. Some of these are very popular titles and I don't know why they didn't put them in the main showcase.

Here are all the BRAND NEW announced games that you won't see on Xbox.
Shadow of the Colossus
Undertale
Hidden Agenda
Knowledge is Power
The Inpatient (VR)
Skyrim VR (VR)
Moss (VR)
Bravo Team (VR)
SUPERHOT VR (VR)
Star Child (VR)
SPARC (VR)

[Fishy Fingers]

Nice but what about the 97% of PS4 owners without VR.

I don't think a coincidence that PS fans largely loved Sonys but thought little of MS. Or XB fans largely loved MS but thought little of Sonys. Or... impartial gamers who thought both were a little meh with the odd highlight.