Xbox One X's E3 2017 Showing Was Very, Very Good, But Not Great

The display Microsoft put on for Xbox One X was indeed very, very good, but it was not great and it's all because of price and games. Besides, it felt a little weird to see Microsoft close the Xbox One X show with a multi-platform title. Ultimately, Microsoft seems to not have learned their lesson about price and the public's reaction to it.

[Manic2014]

Good. That's it. They showed games, a good amount of exclusives, but they lacked the exclusive were you'd go Wow. The price, obviously was not great, but they made it clear from the start this is a PREMIUM product. For the hardcore gamers who wants the best performance, and that's what it is.

Yet I was disappointed in the lack of AAA. That really was a sore spot. The exclusives they have announced, AA and AAA covers them up till Q1 2018, what about beyond that? They usually announce the big hitters at E3 so I was really surprised and disappointed we never saw this. I wonder if MS will have a GAMESCOM conf this year to show it. They can always announce it next E3 but that would be too late to start developing attention toward those AAA's.

I'm hoping for the best.

[Shadowlee]

It feels like ms will be at another conference cause they left out quite a few things.

[bouzebbal]

there was absolutly nothing X1X centered.
even the game trailers were shozn on regular xbox with a small mention of enhanced resolution on the bottom side.
nothing did it justice it was one of the weakest hardware reveals yet.

[Kingthrash360]

1 year.....an entire year of powere this and tflops that....tweet after tweet of sneak dissing sony, pics of the xbox chips flaunted. People saying "wait till E3, MS will unleash the beast!"
All that and we got this poor showing of a new console.
I walked away from the conference feeling no reason to buy a xboX.
This wasn't a "good" conference
They opened by repeating what digital foundry said. Then showed a car No one can afford. Then forza...nice....after that it was all down hill.
I look to all of you and I ask. Is this what you thought MS was bringing?
For 2 years straight they didn't have a new AAA exclusive at E3.
2 years. This is worse than you think.
This wasn't a good showing at all.

[thekhurg]

They left out AAA games. Apparently they don't have anything anymore.

[RpgSama]

Very, very good? In what world, they showed world premiere trailers of multiplatform titles, around 16 timed indie exclusives and the same 6 windows 10 and Xbox exclusives we've known for at least 3 years, Crackdown, Cuphead, State of Decay, Sea of thieves, Forza 7 and Ori 2, but this time in 4k.

Not a single new game, not a single new IP, not a single surprise announcement, Microsoft threw the towel this year and it was for all to see, it's the same thing that happened with the later years of the 360 life, no games.

[darthv72]

@thrash, you already have an XBO so unless you just want a better running XBOX then you should just stick to the one you have. I dont know if you have a Pro or not but the same rule applies there as well. Now if you did upgrade to the Pro then by all means upgrade to the XBOX as well. That way you will have the latest and greatest from both.

Me, I'm going to wait it out like I did before. New games were shown for the xb family so you can decide which you liked or not. i liked a few of them and will gladly play them on my base XBO when they come out. You didnt need exclusives to convince you, you already have an XBO and were looking for reason to upgrade. If more powerful hardware isnt enticing then why did you upgrade to a Pro? (and dont say it's because of the exclusives... you can play those on a base PS4 just fine).

So I say you should upgrade to the XBOX if you upgraded to the Pro. Just because you know its a better unit and you like to say you are all about the better hardware to play games to their fullest. Don't deny yourself the pleasure of having a better xb experience. You owe it to yourself bro.

[Kingthrash360]

@Darth
I upgraded to the pro because games were coming immediately for it. Games like horizon. Games like spiderman. Games like god of war. Games like days gone. Games like death stranding. These are games that are available no where else.
MS showed me games that will work well on xbo but not utilize the power of the X. All games showed the will utilize the power are confirmed to be going to ps4p too.
This is why exclusives matter.
This pure example of having all the power in the world....but when you are the last new powered up console to release and you have no note worthy exclusives people will keep what they have.
I just bought my ps4p a few months ago. I wouldn't mind a xbox X, but the question of why comes up when it has nothing compelling or WOW factor exclusives that make you want it.
Nintendo has it with zelda/mario
Playstation has it with the games I mentioned earlier.
What does xbox have that makes me and many others need a xbox X?
Truthfully darth.
I'm far from trolling here.
This was the worst thing to do.
It's over, tge xbox brand will never be the same and will never compete.
It's over.

[Shadowlee]

...what? Most if not all those games were running on scorpio. Ppl did t want e3 to be a scorpio fest remember? Now youre knocjing it cause it wasbt enough xbox one X? Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

[GottaBjimmyb]

I wasn't impressed, personally, a lot of decent looking games, but absolutely nothing that got me excited.

This site's userbase is very frequently extremely Sony biased, but in this case, I agree 100% with their criticisms

[trooper_]

I wasn't either.

[JasonKCK]

trooper_ that would be more credible if it came from someone else.

[Manic2014]

Personally I was not satisfied but I still don't 100% agree with half the crticisim on this site. Some are legit, others a pure fanboy outcry for a brand they say they will never buy from.

[ps360s]

it would be the opposite if Xbox were the ones on top... lol

[rockbottom3076]

I own all the consoles but have been Sony this gen due to exclusives mostly. That being said I wanted to want the new Xbox one X as I haven't turned on my Xbox in ages. I buy all exclusives and have owned 4k flagship model tvs since they came out. I bought a pro right away and have been waiting for the X. I felt that the footage shown was just that tailor made footage. Except for Forza. My buddy who is an Xbox zealot Loved the show. I however said to my self they really could of knocked it out of the park for a win but settled with a single to tie up the score. I hope they give more soon.

[trooper_]

Oh I'm sorry Jason, I didn't mean to hurt any feelings.

[mkis007]

Xbox BC was really the only surprise...and it kinda bummed me out.

[darthv72]

The price was not bad and was pretty much the expected price but obviously it wasnt as good as others would hope. Now if it was $599 then yeah it would be dead in the water.

Overall though this is MS best show in the last few years. Lots of games, new og xb support and a newer improved XBOX. If i had to give them a grade then it would be a solid B. It was def better than Bethesda and EA and most likely Nintendo but I can change their grade if needed. For now it is just a B.

It was neither great nor terrible it was just.... good.

[threefootwang]

$599 in Canada 😟

Even after conversion it should actually be $672 but still, a bit of a steep price to overcome.

I'll probably get it still, just not day one anymore as planned.

[WickedLester]

I honestly thought their show last year was better.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

$499 was the Expected price for months, Funny how everyone is all like "Whoa that's too expensive!" all of a sudden lol. Anthem, Forza 7 and Metro looked AMAZING running on the X!

The biggest difference will be the +4gb RAM that Sorpio has over the Pro for games, you will notice a lot better draw distances, texture quality and object amount/density more than anything!

[SegaGamer]

I wouldn't even say it was very very good, it was average at best.

[iDadio]

Take your pick from:
Lackluster
Mediocre
Underwhelming
Pedestrian
Run-of-the-mill
Ordinary

You get the idea, was completely expected and was just left with a "was that it" thought lingering when it had finished. No massive announcements, a shocking demo of Crackdown, The word Exclusively used to define things that simply are not exclusive.

Hope tonight's showing fairs better.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

This year's MS conference was not that good.
The good of the conference:
-Ori and the Will of the Wisp
- Release dates for State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves and Cuphead
- Xbox One X was well presented
-OG Xbox backwards compatibility

Cons:
-Reliance on the obvious Forza 7
- Huge amounts of gimmicky timed indie exclusives
- Third party games got more emphasis than 1st party exclusives
- Short trailers, and lack of gameplay for MS's fall line up.
-No new first party IPs announced.
- No new AAA first party titles announced.
- No 343i or Coalition
- No indication of the Xbox first party line up for 2018, with exception of Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2.
-None of the games that Phil Spencer likes to tease.

[OldGuyStillGaming]

Con: Reliance of the obvious Forza
But you add another con
No 343 or Coalition?
Wouldn't that fall in the same category as relying on the obvious Halo,Gears and Forza?

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Both Halo Wars 2 and Gears of War 4 are still receiving content updates, those games are tied to the Coalition and 343i. If Phil Spencer, stated increase first party investment, not having stage time for the two biggest 1st party studios, obviously contradicts this. Both 343i and The Coalition, are likely still bind to one IP each.

[THC CELL]

For the first time ever I switched off the stream and went to bed it was a doomed E3

[FunAndGun]

What? You can't be serious?

I'm a Playstation only gamer and I watched the whole thing. Usually the end of the show is the hardest hitter so you turning off the stream early seems silly.

Not like it really matters....whatever floats your boat I guess.

[akurtz]

same here man. Games are games!

[Garethvk]

Not impressed at all. Games that could be played on the PC and Xbox One. No reason to pony up for the new system when any good gaming PC will do that and more.

[FunAndGun]

Same reason I skipped the Pro. These mid gen upgrades are silly. I'm just waiting for the next gen to be properly blown away on console.

[Armyntt]

It's not a mid gen upgrade!

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

The silly mid gen upgraded, for Xbox, likely cost the division several hundred million, that could of went to 1st party games.

[81BX]

No reason unless that's for you. Personally I'm getting one and a pro. I more than likely won't partake in this mid gen upgrade next time. Just make it like that to begin with

[Wikkid666]

So buy the game on a pc... guess what? It's still a game sold for them.

[Razzer]

Depends. Cuphead, for example, will be on Steam as well as win 10 store. Don't think MS gets a dime of steam sales.

http://store.steampowered.c...

[AspiringProGenji]

Those multiplats looked very, very good.

[OldGuyStillGaming]

That alone deserves a purchase

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

It wasnt good. In fact it was pretty bad. No games, and their only exclusives were all known Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, State of Decay 2. No new AAA IP's which they need badly.

I'm a PC gamer so I'll be able to play all their games anyway but I think it's just not a good showing for MS. I feared this going in and my fears were confirmed they have no standout games. And the console is overpriced. Xbox One Scorpio would have been a better name also.

[slate91]

Was very good and solid. I was expecting a bit more tbh. I give it a solid B.
It definitely left the door open for Sony, though.

[Mr Lahey]

For someone like me, who plays PS Pro and Nintendo and really wanted to be hyped and maybe jump on the train to get the best version of multiplats, the show was a disaster. They showed nothing that made me wanna buy a new $500 console.

[RabbitFly]

I beg to differ. For you who plays PS Pro and Nintendo this press conferance was the best Microsoft has ever done. 90% of what they showed you can play on your PS Pro.

What's not to like about exciting new titles that you do not have to buy a new console to play?

[CP_Company]

if you push it hard, the show is mediocre at best.they lied, and not just once. 85% of the games were indies. Exclusive and m$ words means=nothing. show it self had a lot of pacing problems and game pacing also. bored a lot :/

[PlayableGamez-]

MS was 6/10 at best.
Sony is going to be the best conference this year.

[81BX]

I would give it a, B+ good but not blow your mind. MS did exactly what they needed to do.

[AmUnRa]

No it wasn't, flipflopping with the term excl. that are not exclusieve, no new AAA games
xboneX is to exp. it was bad, Where are all the new games from the first party studios Spencer?
O right you are just all talk and no action. You are just a talking head for Microsoft.

[drunkenspy007]

I unfortunately thought it was pathetic. The blatant pandering was a bit much. I know they're trying to sell the system, but the vocal inflection they made them practice and then deliver... it just seemed disingenuous.

Of course, the games looked great! But focusing on graphics alone without offering a great exclusive instead, will be their doom. Game play is what matters, fun retro style games proves this. I was hoping to see a game that makes me want to buy the system. If there weren't exclusive, really good games, like Zelda BotW, or Bloodborne, I wouldn't have needed to get a PS4 or Switch. I loved my Xbox 360 and keep hoping Microsoft will do something to succeed. Touting amazing graphics on their next system that my gaming PC can match or beat performance-wise, won't do it for me.

[OldGuyStillGaming]

I'll get one when it drops to $399
It'll be my multiplayer game system like it is now and the playstation for the single player exclusive games

[pootymcpoockle]

Very, Very good?

I wouldn't even go that far. The word i'd use would be underwhelming.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I thought it was the worst Xbox conference in recent years and I defend Xbox almost daily on here. I was very disappointed.

No I'm not joking or trolling.

I wanted to see Xbox ride the XOX wave and give us new IPs to show us why we should be upgrading. They failed to deliver.

[iDadio]

I respect this kind of response, humble and justified.

My PC can't do 4K and this is possibly he cheapest way for me to do it but it just feels so empty and without substance.

[Elda]

Agreed.

[JasonKCK]

Sea of Thieves is a new IP, it just doesn't push anything and we've seen it. They didn't show enough Crackdown 3. You were wanting a mic drop moment, but they gave you what you'll be playing for the next 6-8 months instead. Anthem looked great in 4k.

[yeahright2]

honesty.

[mkis007]

Better than 2013 but worse than at least the pastt 2 years. I was really hoping they had that secret stinger to end the show...

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Phil in a interview with IGN said he's committed to first parties and that they basically had to clean house. Essentially it takes time. I guess I'm willing to give him the BoD. Don't think we'll see major news on that front until 2018.

[JasonKCK]

Turned out to be better than expected.

[dumahim]

Don't let the fake applause fool you.

[Relientk77]

Lack of exclusives hurt their conference and the $499 price tag. Other than that I thought it was good.

Seemed similar to their 2013 conference:

1. Show off new console
2. Show off a lot of games
3. $499 price tag near the end

[WickedLester]

It was the "JJ Abrams movie" of conferences. Competent, serviceable, non-offending, and completely ordinary.

[Miss_Weeboo]

The only game they showed people would be interested in buying this machine for is Anthem: and is not even an exclusive... and I don't mean it in the "it's a console exclusive not exclusive/exclusive" sense, I mean, it launches the same day on PS4... People complained on the Switch reveal, and that was far from perfect, but at least the switch launch with Zelda and Oddisey soon... I'm baffled on how bad the presentation was: you don't even need a high end PC to play all those indies: it SUCKED!... This was worse than the "TV reveal presentation" because there at least you could pretend or hope you'll get something good in the future: now you know exactly what you gonna get... This has nothing to do with this site being Sony biased or whatever: objectively this sucked... I cannot believe they did it again

[Einhander1971]

£450 way to expensive, Christ I don't expect to pay that for PS5, yet alone XBONE.

[Destiny1080]

I didn't thing anything could be worse then the ea conference

but when you break it down

[Razzer]

I give MS an A for the One X reveal. That was nicely done.

I give them a B for overall games. Assassin's Creed and Anthem looked cool. But the rest was just a blur. Shit ton of games that were shown for just a few seconds each.

I give them an F for exclusive reveals. Forza was a given. No jaws dropped over Ori. The thing ended so abruptly after Anthem. No big reveal at all. Such a downer.

I'll be nice and say it was fair overall. A fair E3 is not what MS needed. They needed to blow folks away.

[kenwonobi]

Still waiting to be wowed. It's Sony's day. Maybe today I will be?

[nbalive89]

I thought they would announce two big new first party ips but rumor is there going to be at gamescom wait see I guess

[gangsta_red]

MS's E3 was good but it needed a major moment, something to be shown that would have people astounded or a jaw dropping moment and unfortunately they did not deliver that.

They nailed the games "look better on Xbox X" and they drove that home, even I was thinking of how I could get one through some connection soon. But as good as the console looked and how nice it made games look there really isn't a urgency to grab one. I was hoping for a price tag of $450, it's only a 50 dollar difference but even that makes it a little bit more appealing to the average consumer.

But they needed a 'drop the mic' moment, and as awesome as Anthem looked, that shouldn't have been the game to end the MS E3 conference. A new ip or some reboot of an older ip that MS has been sitting on forever (Perfect Dark, Mech Assault, etc, etc) should have closed out the show.

MS had a very good e3 this year, but I agree it wasn't great.

[RosweeSon]

Meh!