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Microsoft can’t explain why its 4K is $100 better than Sony’s

From Microsoft’s perspective, the Xbox One X, the new console built to take advantage of the rapid growth of 4K televisions, is a luxury item. Its diminutive shell contains an abundance of RAM, teraflops, and other expensive bits. For that reason, $499 is a logical price for Microsoft to go with, but it isn’t a competitive one.

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MegaMohsi2930d ago

for $100 more the hardware is easily worth it, the problem is they're no games to justify $500.

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Elda2928d ago

True...they proved that at their conference.

YEP4142928d ago

I have no problem with 3rd party support fo 4k! Im not buying that destiny shit! Haters! And being lazy

Malacath2928d ago

Typical PS fanboy bullshit saying there are no games.

I have many games on my xbox one that are not available on my ps4.

I have many games that are on ps4 too. The fact is whether exclusives or not a game is a game and the xbox one has hundreds

4U2NV2928d ago

But i bet that list consists of halo gears and forza somewhere if not thr definitely some dude bro shooter. with the exception of ori its this lack of diversity that os hurting them.
trust me i own an xbox, i have all three but if you have been failing to see ms has been slacking since 2010 on exclusive games that are new ip - and that are not just mainly shooters then your just a blind product faithful im afraid. Im not im a gamer so different ranges and diversity of games is what its all about.

Death2928d ago

If you exclude both Forza titles, both Forza Horizon titles, Gear 4, and Halo 5 you do trim down the exclusives list. I guess my question is why are you excluding 7 games just to prove your point? These are the core titles on Xbox and games that many Xbox owners own and can't play on PlayStation. Would love to see more first party games, but wouldn't trade these for them. Sea of Thieves and Crackdown are on their way along with what looks to be the best Forza to date. I enjoyed Quantum Break and Recore as well.

InTheLab2928d ago

The XBOX 1X is basically the PS3 with no games. Yes the UHD is a nice feature but as far as gaming goes, 4k is 4k and very few even have a tv to utilize it.

Psytrix2928d ago

- And by the time there is, we'll all be gearing up for the launch of the PS5.. They really shit the bed on this one.

S2Killinit2928d ago

For me its not worth it to pay 500 plus taxes to buy a console that doesn't have any games that set it aside.

I will use that money to buy games, then I will get the PS5 whenever that's coming.

FyBy2928d ago

I absolutely agree. Price is on par with hw upgrade from pro. Spencer is dumb if he says pro cant be compared to X. Its same level of device. Its pointed at 4K, so this is exactly the device to compare to.

And it makes sense. For 400 USD you get mainly checkerboard 4K and sometimes native 4K. For 500 USD you get mainly native 4K and sometimes checkerboard.

Who is X for?
1)For people who dont want to buy a PC and want best multiplat experience
2)For xbox and bc fans

Who X isnt for?
1)For people who wants to play lot of exclusive games aside from multiplats
2)For people who wants to try VR and dont want to invest in pc gaming rig

For me, ps is my home place. I also have 3DS and considred to buy switch....but its not worth it for me now.

Gh05t2928d ago

I agree,
I am going to get an OX when it comes out. I do have a PC but when I play on console I really only ever play multiplats, Im not a fan of either companies exclusives, and this console has a better chance of providing the better experience for the games I will actually play. The money is not an issue for me either.

This console isnt meant to sell gangbusters, its a premium item, for the few who want it. Its like having the flight sticks and racing wheels... you can use a keyboard/controller that costs 1/4 the price... or you can get a premium experience. Both do just fine but some people have the money and want the experience.

It is definitely not for everyone and, I dont get why some people argue about this topic like it needs to be mass market.

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KingKionic 2930d ago

It is worth the $500 easily. Regardless of launch lineup being Crackdown 3 and Forza 7. They still will have tons of games running at native 4K and improved visuals in that launch lineup.

Microsoft is still in a very strong position with Xbox One X.

They have lots of support for it.

HaikusfromBuddha2928d ago

Yeah I mean just adding the 4K Blu Ray player adds the extra value.

Macosan2928d ago

Exactly, plus the increased memory and boost to the graphics. Now if Sony would have dropped the price of the PS4, we would be talking a different story.

LgbtWarrior2928d ago

Xbox slim already does that.

Zabatsu2928d ago

Who even buy bluray movies nowadays though? :/ I'm way to spoiled with streaming and 4k streaming works wonders today.

super_cuddles2928d ago

It does not add extra value

Rhythmattic2928d ago

Zabatsu
if you can't see the difference between bluray or UHD compared to streaming services, I guarantee you won't see the difference between Native 4K and checkerboard 4K

Cryptcuzz2928d ago

@Macosan

If Sony wanted to, they can announce a price cut to the Pro ($349 would be my guess) around October. Tokyo Game Show is also around that time. Right before the X1X is released. That way it doesn't eat into their profits now and a move like that from Sony would be Overkill IMHO.

MrFisher212928d ago

I know the 4k player in my Xbox S is trash compared to my True Samsung 4k player. I have compared on my samsung 8500. Just sayin. The Xox has the same player. Not a good thing if your a true Videophile and want true 4k. The Xbox S doesn't handle the black colors to well when it comes to 4k players. And most cheap ones don't.

Zabatsu2928d ago

Ridiculous comment Rhythmattic.

People barely see or experience that minimal difference on small screens. It's only fanatics claiming that they actually notice differences on rolling material; and these differences are only there if you zoom in on two still images x10.

Streaming 4k material with a good line, does not give me any big perceivable difference in quality and for that matter, have you heard of a HTPC? Streaming isn't just Netflix, dude.

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yeahokwhatever2928d ago

"Microsoft is still in a very strong position with Xbox One X" how so?

TheCommentator2928d ago (Edited 2928d ago )

It does 4K, has a UHD drive, actually improves more than resolutiion so 1080p TV's still see a benefit, and new games are in the works for next year. Oh yeah, and a dozen and a half launch exclusives over the next 12 months on some really amazing IP.

Just like Sony, MS didn't need to show new games this year either.

yeahokwhatever2927d ago

That's not a strong position. That's a feature list. If neither Sony or Microsoft had any consoles on the market right now, I can see an argument being made about feature lists for future products having something to do with theoretical market positioning. 499(xb1x) vs. 399(ps4pro) is not a strong position for the guy selling the console at 499. Period.

SirBradders2928d ago

Go away you think the masses are gonna run out and buy them. Only existing hardcore x box fans will buy one.

Why am I gonna go waste £449 to play with people I don't know and with a pony 1st party lineup. I Guarentee there will be a marginal number of 3rd parties that perform way beyond a discernable difference to the pro.

MS have already had to differenciate between 4k and Ms enhanced evident from their briefing so we have more smoke and mirrors, considering they said it will be a 4k monster. Why they show all their games on PC for? Hype my friend.

The CPU is still weak as F... Just like the pro so don't expect wow factors.

It can't even do D2 at 60fps.

Bruh2928d ago

Dumbass

It can't do Destiny 2 at 60 FPS because Bungie would never let base Xbox One users get underhanded by those playing at double the frame-rate on the same network

SirBradders2928d ago

If the the x could do it easily then it will, phil already said to all developers take full advantage.

All bungee have to do is clock damage etc... Online to balance the frame rates just like PC.

You got a head full of magic Bruh.

Guyfamily9992928d ago

For me personally, if I'm playing a game at Checkerboard 1800p while the X plays it at Native 4K, that won't bug me very much. CB 1800p (such as in Infamous, Watch Dogs 2, Mass Effect, etc) looks plenty great to me and not all that different from CB 4K and Native 4K once you're playing the game. I'm wondering how many X fans have actually seen the difference playing a game, because most don't own a Pro.

Besides, lots of games won't even be that much of a difference. Mathematically a 40 percent GPU boost would be enough to go from 1800p to 2160p, not CB 1800p to 2160p.

TheCommentator2928d ago

ME:A on XB1S looks almost as good as the Pro version, and it's just upscaled to 4K. Pro is nothing more than a cash grab by Sony.

yeahokwhatever2927d ago

TheCommentator,
"cash grab" is not an argument. Every product or service being sold for money is a "cash grab".

boing12928d ago

MS wants to sell their 4k console (XBX) to people who already have 4k console (Pro). Good luck with explaining why they should eventually switch. We care about the tech inside but we are also a fraction of the market. Casual gamer is already hooked on the ecosystem of his choosing. There is absolutely no reason to switch at this point if you have Pro, games for it and friends on the platform. The way I see it, XOne users are the main target for XBX. Yes, you can have both Pro and XBX but multi-console owners are also a fraction.

dragongod642928d ago

Thous two game "Crackdown 3" are the most Hated games there. Crackdown 3 still looks like it still needs work.

thejigisup2927d ago

what is the difference between checkerboard and native 4k? I already own a console that can do the checkerboard which tbh is very good and a negligible difference between what i've seen as comparing native 4k content.

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Neonridr2930d ago

pretty sure there are many things that contribute to the $100. Faster CPU, GPU, more memory, UHD drive..

I mean I think it's fair to say it doesn't need explaining..

Whether or not it's justified is the main question.

porkChop2928d ago

It's far faster than the PS4 Pro, has a 4K Blu Ray drive, and plays games in 4K. Not upscaled. Not checkerboard. Real, native 4K. Regardless of exclusives, the hardware easily justifies the extra $100. For any entertainment enthusiast looking for 4K, the Xbox One X is the clear choice.

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Bruh2928d ago

@Kryptic

It does, but even its flagship titles don't output native 4K. I love my Pro, but I can def see why it warrants a cheaper price vs the One X.

SirBradders2928d ago

Pork Chop not all games announced by Ms stated native 4k a lot of them said enhanced. I wonder what that means?

I'm not saying the games wont look great because let's face it they will but get your head out your ass.

Always remember it's what the developers do. I can't wait to see the fan boys crying when Sony 1st part games look better than X's whole lineup.

Developers talent and art style go a long way.

Guyfamily9992928d ago

Bro. Seriously, stop drinking the Kool aid. Assassins Creed Origins run at CHECKERBOARD 4K WITH DYNAMIC RESOLUTION SCALING (meaning it will drop below 2160p). That's at 30fps btw.

The X is literally only 40 percent more powerful than the Pro. That's not enough to run everything at Native 4K, especially not at 60fps. Xbox One X versions will by and large be slightly clearer PS4 Pro versions.

yeahokwhatever2927d ago

XB1X is shinier versions of console games designed for a system half as powerful as a base ps4. Both beefed up versions are only able to polish the turds that were designed for each platform. Its still PS4 vs. XB1. XB1 is still inadequate with it's stupid DDR3. For example: I can run an old PC game in 4K, say, BF1942. Does that make BF1942 as good looking as BF1? BF1 @ 1080p? @720p? No. Why? Polygons, textures, etc. Rasterized image resolution isn't the only ingredient into making a pretty picture. You'll never have an Uncharted 4 on a XB as long as the OG XB1 is still being supported.

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GameBoyColor2928d ago

I wouldn't count the cpu. It's more or less an oc'd version of the ones og ps4 and x1 use so they probably get it for the same bulk price. The gpu though is a definite addition.

Neonridr2928d ago

well if you look at the spec sheet it no longer refers to the CPU as a Jaguar core, but a "Custom" core. What that means exactly is your best guess, we will know more once a company does a tear down of it.

yeahokwhatever2927d ago

@Neonridr
I'm old enough to remember the "custom" chip in the Shield, er, I mean, "Switch".

Lennoxb632929d ago

People just mention 4K. Yet forget to mention it will have 4K AND better graphics, fx, antialiasing, etc.

k2d2928d ago

The proof is in the pudding

Guyfamily9992928d ago

Graphics will only improve in an easy to run game like Forza which is managing native 4K with headroom to spare. Third party games won't. AC Origins is Checkerboard 4K with dynamic res scaling, and most other third party games won't be native 4K either. Unless the Pro version manages a native 1800p with no trickery, the X can't mathematically hit 2160p without trickery (you know, checkerboarding, temporal injection, blah de blah).
Mind you these are good technologies. What matters is how good the image actually looks. These technologies improve what you can get out of the systems.

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The director of the original Silent Hill: “I look forward to seeing bold interpretations.”

Keiichiro Toyama—the creator and original director of the 1999 Silent Hill—shared his personal thoughts on the recently announced remake by Konami, reflecting on what the project means to him after more than two decades:
“I felt something similar when the game was adapted into a movie. It deeply moved me to see the names of the characters and locations I had created come to life visually, even though I wasn’t directly involved. That wouldn’t have been possible without the continued support of the fans and the dedication of the developers who’ve kept the series alive.
I’m really looking forward to seeing how the remake evolves this time. With the advanced technology we now have, I’m sure I’ll be surprised by how the game is reimagined. Since the original was built for the first PlayStation, there will naturally be challenges—like the camera and controls—but I’m eager to see bold and creative solutions to those elements.”

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senorfartcushion2h ago

Haha Not only is bold and creatively not what the industry wants, it’s not what most people want.

They want to get scammed and pay twice for a thing they already own.

Nightcrawler891h ago

Hope they use his vision in the game

Inverno1h ago

Was the SH2 remake even bold? Or was it more or less just a 1 to 1 over the shoulder remake?

Pedrof1h ago

I wouldn't hold my breath on "bold".

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer23h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole17h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK10h ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent7536m ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM5h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif4h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer27m ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin8m ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Agent7536m ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer30m ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

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Fishy Fingers23h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer22h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused22h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher22h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning7717h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay5h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer19m ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher1d 14h ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

GamingExplained10116h ago

I mean they have to, since they have 2 exclusives anyone cared about this generation, and those are now on PC. The rest is this creatively bankrupt string of remakes and remasters, taking advantage of the creativity of developers past efforts, and laying off teams creative side since all that work has been done already by previous teams.

By far the least creative generation ever.

lukasmain14h ago

@ Gaming-NEW-Troll account

"those are now on PC"

In that case. Xbox is Playstation's competition. MS have ZERO exclusives. ZERO. Nothing. Nada. Not a single exclusive.

Playstation has Astrobot. Demon's Souls, Astrobot Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, still not going to PC. They got Death Stranding 2 coming out in 3 days, NOT ON PC. Ghost of Yotei, not on PC.

That is 6 real exclusives MORE than Microsoft. Microsoft's Xbox is Playstation's competition. So lets compare.

I mean you brought it up.

Or does being "creatively bankrupt" not count when you have certain console exclusives going to PC years after they were released? In that case Returnal. Ratchet And Clank. Spiderman. Miles Morales. Silent Hill 2. And the list goes on

IRetrouk1d 10h ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay1d 9h ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer171d 6h ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal1d 6h ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

Christopher1d 1h ago

If what Microsoft made as a whole was all that mattered, we would still have Windows Phones and Zunes. I would love to see Xbox' operating profits. Love to see it.

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thorstein1d 7h ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim1d 7h ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog1d 5h ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS171d 10h ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain1d 5h ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

MIDGETonSTILTS171d ago

Honestly, I love Helldivers 2 so much that I can forgive them for over investing in GaaS. At least they got one gem from the endeavor.

And I still dream of Factions releasing one day.

I don’t hate GaaS inherently, most are just implemented poorly.

Reaper22_1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier1d 8h ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer1d 8h ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster30001d 5h ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier1d 7h ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Reaper22_1d 3h ago

Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts. At first the narrative was Microsoft isn't going to make the money back from the ABK deal to now their profits wouldn't be as high if they didn't get the deal. This very topic is part of the reason why the deal was secured. Sony's dishonesty and reluctance to tell the truth about how much money they're making and lying about how much this deal would hurt their business. That strategy failed. They're are making a lot of money. No doubt about it and its good for the industry but don't get butthurt when Microsoft post their profits and you guys see they are also making a lot of money as well.

CrashMania1d 3h ago

@reaper.

Microsoft don't reveal Xbox profits, sales numbers, or gamepass numbers, I wonder why that is?

You call Sony dishonest but at least they don't hide and obfuscate meaningful playstation numbers like MS do with Xbox.

IRetrouk1d 2h ago

Reaper stop lol, only one company hides that info and it ain't sony....

Chevalier1d 6h ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Chevalier23h ago

"Nah, reaper's not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out some facts"

🤡 What facts? 🤣

Please share with everyone your idiocy

What does Xbox make in revenue and profit? What are their sales? How much money does Gamepass cost them? Oh right you got ZERO numbers to post.

"Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says."

Says the idiot who can't even tell the difference between Microsoft and Xbox? Lmao. Seriously all you're showing everyone again is how much of an uninformed parroting idiot you are.

But go ahead and post your evidence! Oh right again ZERO from a ZERO. Absolutely 💯 hilarious to see you stumble like the idiot you are.

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Npugz71d 8h ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_1d 8h ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT1d 8h ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer1d 7h ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Christopher1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

So, you're saying that over $10B of this is from $10 to $20 software price increases? Zero to do with increased market reach? Massive MTX from third-party games?

Vithar1d 8h ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier1d 7h ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal1d 6h ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

stonecold321h ago

over twitter xbox fanboy you tube are saying saying sony is broke cant afford warner bros.

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