Microsoft's Exclusivity Problem Is On Full Display At E3, Even As Xbox One X Impresses

Forbes: "Microsoft finally unwrapped Project Scorpio today, revealing the console as the “Xbox One X,” which is a bit of a mouthful, but I suppose there could have been worse names."

[PhoenixUp]

Microsoft still showed some worthwhile exclusives at this conference

Although it's very significant that they still haven't released a new flagship IP this gen that could stand alongside Halo, Forza, & Gears of War

[SpaceRanger]

Which ones? Aside from what was already known?

[LastCenturyRob]

"Playstation domination across all nations" Is the average IQ of a Sony user lower than the number on the console? I mean, wow, its just sooooo many PS4 players sound plain stupid.

[DARK_WOLF]

Yeah im so sick of seeing sea of thieves and crackdown.

I want new games ffs.

Xbox one x is great and as a platform for gaming xbox is the best imo but there is no denying the lack of exclusive games.

Sony is laying the smackdown this gen with quality exclusives.

Xbox is not, but atleast its got third party games to play.

Playstation is a must for its exclusives. Play everything else on xbox 👍

[GrubsterBeater]

@LastCenturyRob

"I mean, wow, its just sooooo many PS4 players sound plain stupid."

Oh, the irony of this statement....

How about you learn proper grammar and proper spelling before calling other people stupid..

Also, on this subject, usually the "stupid people" with the "low IQs" are the XBox fans, who typically still haven't hit puberty or use "I f%#$&@ your Mom" insults. The most telling evidence of XBox fans being the ones lacking any modicum of intellect is that they CHOOSE TO EVEN BUY an XBox. An intelligent person would realize what a stupid decision it is to waste their money on a paper weight studded with electronics.

This MS E3 show was awful. They had so little to show that they used games that were multiplat or timed exclusives for the most part... Sad, really... I feel sorry for anyone with an XBox...

[4Sh0w]

Yep, I'm a huge Xbox fan but today I got to agree with alot ps fans, well sort of. I thought it was good as far as quantity but quality= 1st party AAA games was pitiful. Sure I'll play Sea of Thieves, Date of Decay2, a few of those indies but its completely inexcusable to not show off gameplay of Crackdown 3 at E3 after all this time and hype. Games com...pfft, wtf? It's also inexcusable not to drop at least 1 Anthem caliber console exclusive. I mean I saw some fun looking stuff like that last man standing multi game(cant remember the name), etc but where was the big new IP??? I'm not blindly loyal, I understand things take time but seriously it's TIME to deliver what I and millions of core Xbox fans bought an X1 for.

I mean damm I still think Ryse is better than most of what they showed (I really like that game though). I'm not trying to be negative and I went in with reasonable expectations, no way is asking for a big new AAA IP in the vein of what made Xbox, Xbox asking too much. Xbox One X hardware is great imo but other than Anthem(a multipat game) Microsoft themselves didn't give us a whole lot of incentive to buy it so Im not gonna sit here and pretend everything is OK, I hope they get slammed, thats how you improve, I expect more!

[rainslacker]

Spencer said that he pays attention to what people say on social media about MS, I believe in reference to OGXbox BC.

but what this conference showed me is that while Phil may pay attention, he fails to comprehend what people are actually saying, or MS itself doesn't really care about addressing it.

MS had a good showing of games. But the criticism that people have had about Xbox is that it doesn't have enough games. That was about games that MS itself publishes or produces. MS in this conference was trying to meet the criticism of "no games", while showing almost nothing that they are producing or publishing.

This conference, IMO, failed miserably to actually do what MS needed to do. They need to quell the criticism of "no games", and give a reason to want a Scorpio. No games didn't address the underlaying criticism of MS produced/published games. They misdirected by throwing up "exclusive" for all these timed exclusives that MS didn't produce or publish. They failed to sell the Scorpio because after touting up 4K before every game, they then show things that look like last gen games.....or worse. Some interesting concepts in there sure, but is that what gets people excited for a new most powerful console. The variety of games was there, but that variety is going to be on other consoles, and won't require a $500 expenditure. May not get "the best experience", but I'm sure people can live with the $250 or $400 version experience that they likely already have. I'm perfectly content with getting the few true console exclusives that interest me on my stock X1. The rest they showed I'll get on my more than capable PS4P which I already own. Most looked like they'd play fine on my modestly equipped PC that's 5 years old now.

[tontontam0]

"Playstation is a must for its exclusives. Play everything else on PC👍, and don't buy xbox"

Fixed

[butchertroll]

Phil Spencer 2 months ago : "We're upping our investment with first party and committed to innovate"

No, YOU DON'T

https://www.theguardian.com...

[Overload]

They showed a bunch of timed exclusive indie games. The conference was pretty weak overall.

[Deep-throat]

Sony does that every year. They show a lot of indie games. Everyone fill their shows with indies and remasters.

[BiggerBoss]

@deepthroat

Except Sony ALSO shows big exclusive games like God of War and Horizon

[MagicBeanz]

The defenitly needed to show a reason for people to spend $500 on xbone x, and they defenitly failed to do just that.

[Overload]

@Deep Throat

Sony does this on the PS Blog and their YouTube channel.

[Wallstreet37]

Difference between showing indies you are relying on and hardly anything else Worth mentioning besides Ori lol and showing indies but still relying on awesome AAA exclusives like Sony does. The butt hurt and defense force responses from Some ppl are insane. God of War alone smashes anything Microsoft has shown out the park, heck Horizon that already came out does that and it's playable right now and isn't an indie. It's like whatever power difference Scorpio has over PS4 pro doesn't matter when you still see PS4 exclusives looking and playing better than anything on Scorpio. The third party games like metro looked better than stuff like crackdown, that's sad. Crackdown also got the biggest downgrade I've ever seen smfh.

But sure let's keep defending :)

[Shadyceaser]

Only through your eyes 👀 mine saw something different

[UCForce]

@Deep-Thoart Well, Sony know how to balance between AAA and Indies.

[letsa_go]

So are we going to call it the Indie Box X...with slightly more power? I gotta get all those old xbox fanboy talking points in

[Christopher]

Okay, even I'm asking you to show this one.

The big "exclusives" were Forza 7, Sea of Thieves, and Crackdown 3. We know Forza 7 and it's been highlighted as the sign of what type of 4k we'll have. Then there's Sea of Thieves, which really showed nothing new and Crackdown 3, which still hasn't shown any live SP campaign or any new MP for... two years now?

Otherwise, those big titles were all third-party titles that had no exclusive mentions of content or time at all. The rest were nice, but they were PC games also coming to XBO.

They failed to deliver a single 'big' new exclusive IP and that is an issue when they are claiming to work to turn that around and after this year of issues.

[Overload]

Agreed. I even think Crackdown, SOT and SOD had pretty weak showings, I expected more from SOD.

[darthv72]

I did not watch the whole thing but i only found out about og xb from here. As great as that is... it really is a smh display (or lack of) in regards to true new games for xbox fans.

I was hoping for even new entries from og xb games like bloodwake, quantum redshift, brute force... games that people have been asking for for years now.

Huge missed opportunity but im keen on og xb games (hope with live support) and the $500 price is not out of reasonable range.

[Christopher]

@darthv72: OG Xbox games was my favorite moment of the whole event.

@below: It definitely couldn't hurt. Would love to see a new Tenchu and Jade Empire, personally.

[darthv72]

Maybe (and this is a big maybe) the reception of og xb bc could lead to new games (like i mentioned) based on og ip..?

Then again, if the positive reception of 360 bc has not lead to new games based on 360 ip then im doubtful it would be different for og.

[The 10th Rider]

They really did fail to show a single 'big' exclusive new IP, which is an issue.

But on the flipside almost every big exclusive game they showed, Forza 7, Sea of Theives, Crackdown 3, and State of Decay 2, are all supposedly releasing before next E3 (Cuphead too, not sure if that's console exclusive, though?). The only one that we don't know about is Ori and the Will of the Wisps.

While I do think it's a huge issue that they didn't show anything new in terms of exclusives other than Ori, it is a step in the right direction in terms of showing more games in general, and avoiding showing games years in advance only to have them sit in development for years and years.

EDIT: I'm with Overload that Crackdown, SOT, and SOD 2 had pretty weak showings. State of Decay they barely showed us anything. Sea of Thieves looked exactly like everything we've already seen. Crackdown looked worse than gameplay footage we've already seen. Anthem and Metro had jaw-dropping showings, but are multiplatform and not even timed exclusives. Ori looked absolutely gorgeous.

[starchild]

@Christopher

"Would love to see a new Tenchu and Jade Empire, personally."

Good taste. Getting new games in those franchises would be a dream come true for me.

[JasonKCK]

So, we get to ignore cosole exclusives now? They seemed so important before. Also, there were no VR filler games.

[Christopher]

***So, we get to ignore cosole exclusives now? They seemed so important before.***

So, we get to ignore first party exclusives now? They seemed so important before.

*** Also, there were no VR filler games.***

Major Nelson said they haven't finalized their VR plans yet. So, still working on it, but it'll likely come. Don't you worry!

[JasonKCK]

It's just odd how 3rd party console exclusives are praised elsewhere, but dismissed here. Are you going to deny that doesn't happen?

First party exclusives were there even if we already knew about them.

[Christopher]

***It's just odd how 3rd party console exclusives are praised elsewhere, but dismissed here. Are you going to deny that? ***

Third party exclusives, I think, would have been praised if they weren't the usual Indie games (though, they do look good, they just don't have the selling power). I think the issue is they had nothing "strong" that was exclusive that we didn't already know or doesn't truly sell the power of XBO X or the goal of focusing on, as Phil has said, increasing the power of their exclusive line up.

I would have praised them for at least getting some exclusive content that we haven't heard of, but we didn't even hear that.

But, at least the third parties will be supporting the new console and its power.

[JasonKCK]

A few were indies, Battlegrounds looks great, and I agree with OG Xbox BC being a big surprise.

I guess they could have announced some far off projects.

[Skillz1215]

Which ones?

[modelgod]

Yeah I agree. I'm interested in seen how Black Desert pans out. That was the only game I was interested in other Sea if Thieves and Cuphead. I was unimpressed!

[MegamanXXX]

"Microsoft still showed some worthwhile exclusives at this conference"

I guess I'm blind

[starchild]

The Last Night, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, and Cuphead all looked great to me.

But they did lack any big AAA game announcements.

[MegamanXXX]

@Starchild

I expected big AAA games announcements like like a new Mechassault or Fable

[Tussin187]

@Starchild

Was the Last Night console or launch exclusive. Can't remember sense they were switching back and forth. That game looked pretty sweet. I would be bummed if it was console exclusive.

[trooper_]

Like....?

BC, again is just a luxury. The games they showed are either timed or multiplat.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't know what you're talking about

What exclusives? They basically just showed off a series of multi-platform games even the games that they were making can be found on other platforms ie PC.

[darthv72]

The whole PC argument applies to those who tend to game on PC.

I dont so it does not apply to me. If it is on xbox and not ps or switch... it is exclusive in my book.

Same can be said about ps games not on xb or switch but also on PC. They are still exclusive to me.

[Critic4l_Strik3]

Oh poor blind xbox fan boy lol

[strifeblade]

No this was the most underwhelming conference from msoft ever. Im a huge fan, i own a high end 4k hdr tv as well so scorpio looks great for third party and multiplats no doubt. backwards compatibility is not bad, kinda meh. big exclusives were crackdown, forza, sea of thieves, and ori, state of decay 2, lucky tails fox. Crackdown looks alright- good co op- been a while they been showing that- hype is down for me. Forza is probably going to be the best racer as Sony still doesn't have an answer even if they release gt- dont think it will compete. ori will be amazing. sea of thieves is really meh. state of decay 2 is alright, fun co op. Besides forza none of these exclusives are stellar powerhouse games- no new ip. DISSAPOINTING GAMES WISE. I think sony will steal the show, that new spiderman game god of war and last of us sequel, probably gran turismo, who knows what else. This smokes the xbox line up- microsoft has no answer to those games save for GT.

Biggest positive is the console itself and will out compete sony multiplat wise but exclusives wise, sony has it this year and i dont have to watch their e3 to know that. THE 500$ price is expected, and i think msoft just gave sony a chance to destroy them this year games wise.

[Takwin]

There are no exclusives. So they showed zero of them. Not sure what you mean.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I'm actually impressed they had so many games to show off, I really want Anthem. I expected nothing more than a reveal of the new xbox, was somewhat surprised.

[Tussin187]

Yes and most are multiplatform which is what everyone is talking about lol.

[Nu]

Xbox is like the smart nerd without his bitc***

It's funny how Nintendo lacks power but has games and on the other hand Microsofts all about power and little games.

[SpaceRanger]

I couldn't agree more with this article.

Anyone get annoyed by the whole "Exclusive" audio feature for just about every game that is multi platform?

And what was up with not showing total level destruction with Crackdown? They spend almost 15min with Sea of Thieves (almost fell asleep) and chose to only show a trailer for Crackdown.

[KingKionic]

The crackdown footage shown was from the campaign.

"For those asking.... Destruction is still part of Crackdown 3 Multiplayer. Today you saw campaign, for the 1st time ever. More on MP soon!!"

https://mobile.twitter.com/...

[SpaceRanger]

Ahh, thanks for the clarification!

So I'm guessing it's not as much a part of single player campaign??

[AspiringProGenji]

I would hope so. The showing was pretry stale. I'm not sure why the destructions wouldn't carry over to the single player, but let's believe him for now

[KingKionic]

Crackdown destruction has always been for multiplayer Just so everyone knows.

The multiplayer will be PvP in a city fully destructible.

But it's unusual that it wasn't the first thing shown.

[Overload]

Something is obviously different or they would have shown it.

[Nodoze]

HAHA so there is no destruction in the single player game. WOW.

Also when they trotted out Dragon Ball Z as a major exclusive.....OUCH.

[morganfell]

Has anyone considered the Crackdown MP will not launch along side the SP this fall?

[Christopher]

They should have had an on-stage live demo of Crackdown SP. Anything in a trailer like that isn't what I look for to sell me on a game. I know nothing of the story, nothing of the character(s), and all I know is that Terry Crews is still an extremely likable and marketable person who I hope doesn't age or die.

***Has anyone considered the Crackdown MP will not launch along side the SP this fall?***

During the YouTube stream interview, they said SP, Co-Op, and MP would all release on November 7. They'll highlight MP later on specifically and they called it 'competitive MP'.

[morganfell]

Christopher,

Then that being the case it makes no sense why they did not show it. It is well inside the beta window which means something isn't working right. If it isn't ready in a playable form of some sort with 5 months before the game goes to reproduction and only 4 months and change before it goes to QA for gold cert there is definitely something wrong.

[dumahim]

Which is kind of scary since Crackdown actually comes out this year and SOT is next year.

[4Sh0w]

Yeah I follow Crackdown 3 news like a bloodhound so I already knew the destruction was multi only(online using Azure), that was exactly what I have been waiting to see= a proper multi gameplay demo with full on destruction. Why in the hell would they wait..errr not ready, OK but how f-ing long does it take, nah I'm not buying they cant muster a 5min gameplay showcase of one area at GD E3!

[KingKionic]

I don't know but I agree the crackdown footage showing campaign first unusual.

Maybe because we never saw it before but caused confusion.

Good thing it's still in there.

[Nodoze]

Crackdown looked AWFUL. For the amount of time it has been in development it should super polished, and it isn't. The explosions, the textures, the animations, and the absolute lack of destruction on display. Meh. A 6.5 tops based on what was shown.

SoT looked....it looked like it was still a concept. Forza looked good, but it always does.

Anthem absolutely stole the show and it was not even exclusive.

[KingKionic]

It wasnt a exclusive but that fidelity was off of xbox one x so thats a positive. It was definitely using tons of advance effects and 4k assets for sure.

[meatnormous]

And crackdown is 30 fps on scorpio.

[modelgod]

Don't for get about the porsche. Lol!

[Takwin]

Anthem showed me Bioware is Dead. Mass Effect Andromeda was awful, and Crackdown looks like it is from 2012.

[letsa_go]

Pretty much what I have been saying all along. Crackdown 2 was junk...I am not anticipating this one to be any better

[XanderZane]

I think they did the "Exclusive" audio because some maybe negative fanboys kept complaining about the XBox not having any exclusives and they wanted to show that they do. Most of the exclusives were console exclusive, which means the games won't be on the Switch or PS4. Still Phil said there would be PC exclusives and XB1S/XB1X exclusives. I didn't see any PC exclusives at all. Maybe they will show some at GamesCom or XBox Experience.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

No most were timed exclusives not console

[butchertroll]

Majority of games showed are timed exclusives

[ziggurcat]

"I think they did the "Exclusive" audio because some maybe negative fanboys kept complaining about the XBox not having any exclusives and they wanted to show that they do. Most of the exclusives were console exclusive..."

No, most of those games weren't console exclusive... "launch exclusive" = timed exclusive which != exclusive.

[Takwin]

My wife told me to stop screaming. It was driving me insane. THERE ARE NO MORE XBOX EXCLUSIVES!!!

[generic-user-name]

It was definitely a shady tactic for the announcer to keep saying 'exclusive' like that.

[KingKionic]

Yeah let's throw the elephant from the conference out there.

It was definitely geared around showing third party support and why Xbox one x is a beast on the third party titles.

The backwards compatibility Xbox one x stuff was great and not even expected

Almost every game shown was native 4K at the show when they were announced with the logo in the bottom.

[freshslicepizza]

They delivered on the hardware but not on software.

[morganfell]

They actually delivered on the hardware with the One S. If they had pumped all the Scorpio money into games for the X1 look where they would have been.

[Why o why]

Infinite cash cheat means they should be able to do both.

[modelgod]

Was I the only one who thought for a split second that Black Desert was actually Lost Odyssey 2? I was about to explode! !

[CaptainObvious878]

Wow....

If moldy, MOLDY can say MS didn't deliver on the software at the E3 conference, well... that's really saying something. How many other die hard ms fans around the world are saying the same thing? MS could be in real trouble, even more than they are now.

This is the second time in history I've agreed with Moldy. I'll be on the look out for asteroids today.

[4Sh0w]

Why o Why thats exacty what I was gonna say= they can afford to do both.

I've been to Redmond Washington, seen Microsoft Campus and Xbox firsthand, lots of folks employed there, I've studied the company, they are rolling in cash Xbox is small potatoes to some of the investments they have made that never saw the light of day.
PLUS the Xbox engineers who design hardware are obviously sesperate from game designers and developers. Microsoft easily has the deep pockets to fund whatever they want, simply put right now they are just misguided. I genuinely think Phil is just trying to please too many masters.

[morganfell]

They cannot afford to do both. People act like MS can just throw money where they want. Why not buy total Battlefield and COD exclusivity? Because they have a budget, that's why.

Being able to graph out on a bar napkin how it is technically possible is not the same as being able to do it.

[conanlifts]

I have to agree. In addition i thought the conference as a whole was awful for current xbox owners. Literally nothing releasing from ms until September. No new 1st party games, no new 1st party exclusives and sea of thieves delayed to 2018. Plus most exclusives had the term " xbox console launch exclusive". So this term implies they could potentially all be timed exclusives anyway. Personally i hope ms gets plenty of disappointed fans expressing themselves. They need to get the message that to succeed they need 1st party games. They are not even falling back on halo or gears.

[Relientk77]

I thought they showed off some great games, but almost all of them are multiplatform

[Elit3Nick]

There certainly was some good showings for Forza, AC:O and Anthem, but why no extended gameplay for SoD2 and Crackdown 3? This was honestly a 6/10 conference for me, and one of MS's weakest since before the XB1 reveal.

[modelgod]

The best showing was Anthem and it's not even exclusive. Very weak conference!

[CaptainObvious878]

I'm hearing a few people saying it was one of their worst (discounting the 2013 DRM nightmare of course). This is really troubling for MS as the position they're in now and the large amount of online chatter about their very weak games lineup, they needed one of their best showings ever and it seems they greatly under delivered.

[Takwin]

correction: **ALL** of them are multiplatform

[AspiringProGenji]

That's true. And now they are using some confusing "console Launch exclusive" tag to make them sound like exclusives when they are timed. Very lose use of the word exclusive lol

Lots of indie games and not new 1st party ips... And some games we already knew with two of them being 2018 releases. Well at least these ones were alright. Sea of Thieves looks very good

[EatCrow]

Console launch. I think is actually related to already being on pc. Don't know about the timed thing. But yea it could be.

[Tussin187]

But they said launch exclusive and not console. They had Xbox and windows exclusive and launch exclusive. They threw everything together and that's why people are confused. It did it's job I guess but now people are going to point out how they tried to bit a little slick with the term exclusive.

[Number-Nine]

I wasn't really impressed by anything

[Tko1111]

Are you serious trolls and haters need a life. This was a great E3 many exclusives games to look forward too.

[morganfell]

Exclusive to what? Every hard core Xbox fan should think this: https://youtu.be/S74rvpc6W6...

[DaGreatOne]

I'm pretty sure Sony will show us what a true tko looks like.

[Tussin187]

Just be prepared for the blind followers to downplay whatever Sony does. I not expecting Sony to stop Earth's rotation but I hope I'm more excited than I was today. Don't get me wrong, the games MS showed were great. The problems is most of what they showed can be played on PlayStation.

Ori, while ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, is not enough for me to buy an X. Whats funny to me is that MS gave soooo much time to show off 3rd party games. Then you two heavy hitters like Crackdown and Cuphead get no love but just trailers. WTF.....

Crackdown had many different screens going at once to even pay attention to what's going on and Cuphead was short as hell showing the release date.

Who I'm the hell made these decisions???? And the live music thing with Ori? Really??? I just cringed when I saw that and you all know why. It has nothing to do with the game. The game is breathtaking. To me, MS has been off this whole gen and has been reactionary. Yes, they have done some good things like BC but they still have big issues.

It's hard to say. I like that they're trying but it doesn't feel genuine and more like they are just trying to fit in. It like they're trying too hard and it comes off as fake if that makes any sense. It's not fake, at least not to me, but it comes off that way. It like Sony does something and then MS says hey we can do it too(I'm five year old voice).

And wanted them to wow me with a new IP. Like when we 1st seen Horizon from Guerilla. I wanted to see one of their team do something different and just blow us all they way. That didn't happen. What happened is that I was more impressed and more interested in the multiplatform titles they shown. That's the problem for ME.

I kept waiting and waiting for that moment to happen and it didn't. Even if they showed Crackdown I would have been happy. I know people are defending that showing and saying it was the singleplayer​. Ok, lets give you that one.

So your saying that not showing the power of the cloud that you've been hyping for year on the stage of the biggest game show of the year was a good idea.

I'm sorry but no excuse you can come up with is good enough. Unless, they plan on blowing us all away from this game after Sony's conference then this was a bad decision. If they do that then my issues with Crackdown may be forgiven. Still disappointed we didn't see live gameplay but hey this game is going to be the greatest right?

Wow this was way too long but I just needed to vent. And the reason I'm pissed is because I really wanted this console if MS gave me a reason to get one. Right now I'm content with my Pro. I can easily get one no problem. That's not the point. I'm pissed because MS couldn't justify me spending $500 plus tax on this thing.

Maybe once we see some comparisons of games then I may change my mind if it's a lot better than Pro. Right now, I really don't know. I want to see this massive difference that the die-hards are taking about. I mean 6tflops!!!!!!

[Why o why]

The flip flopping will be widespread. If all of these people of conviction wanted a console for superior multiplats they would already own a ps4 ......no no no....ok so its not the multis...its the exclusives......hmmmm..errrr.. .

I'm kidding kinda but the only way sony can do worse is not to show something new. Their conference will probably get crapped on by some even if they do show a new ip or game we didn't know was coming . Just how it is.

Youll be hard pressed to find an xbox fan gushing over that conference despite the xbx

[Why o why]

Maybe you're new. I didn't check but there's a high number of Xbox fans agreeing with the crux of the article. Damage control never fixes issues ever.

[Skillz1215]

Oh yea? Which were exclusives?

[strifeblade]

It was a bad conference, and Im a microsoft fan myself. Few positives, but no new ip or big exclusive to really showcase the console really hurt it. It just needed one big exclusive and diddnt do that. 5/10 from me.

[Skillz1215]

Wtf are u smoking tko? Fitting name cause MS tko'd themselves

[Takwin]

There are zero exclusives, so if by "many" you mean ZERO, then you nailed it.

[CaptainObvious878]

You're making the rest of the ms fans look bad. Even most of them are admitting it was a bad conference.

[fatbastard11]

That reveal was so bad that I'm not sure even Xbot fangirls want the system any more.

[rawshack]

Fan boys will all ways complain no matter what is shown .I feel we are living in the peak of gaming as we speak .both Microsoft and Sony have done well and made gaming better for every one

[rainslacker]

Fanboys will also ignore critical thought and actually consider if what they want to believe is actually what was shown or known.

[Tussin187]

That is true and there were some amazing games shown. PlayStation owners will look forward to play most of what was shown as well.

It's an absolute great time to be a gamer and X1 has some great games but we all wanted to see something new 1st party wide. Something that blew us away. Something to really showcase why I need to shell $500 on this new machine with 6 Tflop GPU.

And to not even give Crackdown a proper live demo with the CLOUD. WTF......

[dmonee]

A little bummed they rolled out the same ol' franchises at first. Halo, GOW, Forza etc.... except for that Japanese, action RPG, they showed, nothing really excited me. I think the problem for Microsoft is going to be the "need" for this rig. I know right now, I don't need it and they didn't make me feel like I had to have it.

[aconnellan]

They didn't show any Halo or Gears, only Forza...

[dmonee]

They showed master chiefs head and a little gears of war 4 in 4K in the beginning. No halo game, which is also a problem. Don't show me Master chiefs head then not give me some Halo action

[aconnellan]

*to your second comment*

Master Chief's head? Are you kidding?? The video at the beginning, where they recap the history of Xbox? How does that count as "rolling out the same ol' franchises", when they were split second clips in an Xbox montage?

I wanted some Halo as well, but 343 has been saying for months that there was going to be no news or announcements regarding a mainline Halo game at E3, so I don't know why people expected anything different.

I do agree with your original statement though - there wasn't enough 'oomph' behind their conference to say "this is why you need the Xbox One X"

[MagicBeanz]

The "exclusive" thing started to get funny after a while, considering most of them aren't actually exclusive. Every time it said "Console Launch Exclusive" I was like well theres another new Playstation game. lol

[rainslacker]

I was actually kind of excited when they said they had 22 exclusives. Maybe a bit concerned they money hatted a bunch of multi-plat games, which they did I guess, but they didn't do it to the extent to keep it completely off other consoles.

MS barely showed any 1st party, had even less 2nd party, and basically showed a bunch of stuff they really didn't have much part in creating, all while talking about how much art games can be.

[XanderZane]

Don't think Playstation is getting Sea of Thieves, Tacoma, Ashen, Crackdown 3, Forza 7, Ori and the Will of the Wisp, Cuphead, Black Desert or State of Decay 2 anytime soon. Those were the "console exclusives". You'll be waiting a long time for a PS4 version.

[MagicBeanz]

Sea of Thieves looks like a boring Nintendo kiddy game, Crackdown looked downgraded, State of Decay looked terrible, Ori2 looked nice but can be played on PC just like Forza, in fact all of them can be played on PC so why buy an xbox again? For the record we dont want a PS4 version of any of them. Congratulations though you found a few games to mention out of the overwhelming list of games they showed that were actually multiplatform but hidden behind their clever little "console launch exclusive" tag line.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I will be playing Ori and Will of the Wisps for sure on my vanilla XB1, and likely Cuphead. Crackdown 3 is maybe, as it didn't get a chance (nor was it given one) to impress me. Also so many of the Xbox One console 3rd party timed exclusives, look like cheap indie games. In fact to me, many of them literally blended together, due to the cheap cartoon graphics and similar art.

'Right now', due to changing the FPS/Shooter, and MP landscape. It would be the perfect time for MS, to experiment in bring back some of their franchises with strong MP. IPs, like Crimson Skies, Battletech, and Perfect Dark, should be given a chance. Phil "I like to tease old IPs" Spencer, should start to show actions that justify his words. Phil did a lot of good for Xbox from 2014 to 2016, but this year the console doesn't have much to show.

[Tussin187]

Yes this or just let your team's do what Sony let's thier developers do and make a new IP. This is one thing that they should be coping and not live music. Duck.....they just don't seem to get it...

I don't like the price but if they would have showed something on the level of Horizon running on Scorpio that completely blew my mind they would have had my money day 0 at $500. They couldn't even do that.

I'm not pissed at the system. It sounds great. I'm pissed because MS let me down on the 1st party game department. Even Sea of Thieves looked ok but not great. At least to me. Maybe if they did a more exciting mission it would have been better.

But we waited all these years for the games and we got the Sea of Thieves demo, Crackdown trailer with confusing multiple screens of gameplay, and a 20 sec trailer for Cuphead announcing the release date. These are supposed to be your big dogs and they get treated like this. Where's the confidence and promotion for these titles.

It felt like MS was trying to sell 3rd party games more than their own. Just strange...

Oops..I forgot they had Forza. Looked great but it's Forza. We all knew it was coming. That's almost like saying there will be a new Madden this year. And yes I know there's Horizon but it's still Forza. I'm going by name fatigue only. It's a Forza every year. Not knocking the games but you get what i mean...

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

MS should not bind studios to one IP. Both Halo, and Gears of War, while still successfully are no longer at their peak popular. Although Gears 4 did much better than Judgement, and Halo 5 has better player retention than Reach and 4. The Coalition and 343i, should be able to work on other action based IPs.

I have no need to get a Scorpio. I don't have a 4K TV, and the graphical difference between the base console and Xbox One X, likely won't be that huge due to diminishing returns. Plus the price is too much, in Canada the Xbox One X, will be 600 bucks plus tax . That money can better be spent on my XB1 and PS4 backlog and newer releases.

I personally have no interest in Forza (I dislike racing games). Sea of Thieves doesn't interest me, as I haven't been impressed by the gameplay being shown. I am also not too interested in State of Decay 2. 2018 for MS first party looks weak, not even Halo 6 is confirmed for that year.

MS and other console makers (except maybe Nintendo), tend to make more money off of console licensing fees than they do 1st party games. I don't see how the Xbox One X, will benefit MS here, they don't have dominate market share. Focusing on 3rd party support won't help MS to bring in new console buyers. The base XB1 is slightly weaker than the PS4. While the XB1X is much more expensive than the PS4 Pro.

I called Phil Spencer a lying shill in an older comment today. He was trying to make it seem like he was focusing on 1st party games and a larger number of exclusives. He seemed to have changed the vision that he present initially. And I am throughly disappointed.

[kenwonobi]

I was not underwhelmed. I just wasn't overwhelmed with their actual exclusive games. The games which really grabbed me are the ones that are multiple platforms. They were pretty impressive but without a proper comparison to Pro or even regular Xbox S there was no way to actually see the gap in difference and grasp the quality of upgrade. Granted a few of them looked gorgeous but as I said... No real comparison yet. What people will need to quantify value is Xbox X vs Xbox S vs PS4 Pro videos. Something along those lines.

[leeeroythe3rd]

Showed a very nice looking jrpg, forza, sea of theaves, 2 titles towards the end that were hightlighted looked very interesting. Anthem looks amazing ... that is what destiny had hoped to look like... some great pc indie titles picked up and a very solid exclusive fps in metro world. There is plenty there to get people to xbox.

[BeOpenMinded]

Agreed, but they are not maximizing their potential in what they could bring to the table

[VsAssassin]

Look I really appreciated the 1-2 punch of game trailers that MS did, and I even rate the entire conference with a good 7.5 out of 10; however, with an open mind, it really didn't blow my mind away in any form. The only time my heart leapt for Xbox fans was when the OG Xbox BC announcement was made, though even that--I thought--wasn't enough.

I was really rooting for a new AAA IP or a thundering third party deal with a well-known dev, but nothing was announced of that sort. Well at least it was still a good showing. All eyes are on Sony! I hope they do not dial down on announcements considering what they have seen of the MS briefing.

[Razzer]

The exclusives were mostly known or timed. I thought there would be a big ending with a mega-hit first party exclusive reveal. It wasn't there. Just more of Anthem and it wasn't even a reveal. Anthem was revealed at EA and then continued at MS as the finale. How the hell does that happen?

There were A LOT of games shown. Quantity over quality. This almost could have been the Steam E3 press conference by what was shown.

[phoenixwing]

I was expecting at least 1 new AAA title. I didn't realize it was that dire for them. Msoft needs to go on a studio buying/creating spree asap. I don't think Msoft planned on falling behind this gen because they don't have anything to fall back on when they're not market leader.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Absolutely agreed this is just completely pathetic and I'm legitimately surprised that Microsoft didn't even have a single game to announce brand new AAA.

At this rate Microsoft needs to pick up some more teams and build some more Studios internally to prepare for Next Generation because I don't really think there's a way they could fix this this generation they're just too far behind in Sony has been preparing for this type of onslaught since last generation when they were buying so many studios.

[rainslacker]

Just getting more 2nd party would be a good start IMO.

[FallenAngel1984]

I guess you could say Microsoft's exclusives are in a state of decay

[GrubsterBeater]

SAVAGE! Hahaha

[GrimReaperGamer]

You win comment of the day, haha.

[Relientk77]

Omg brillant lol

[Eldyraen]

Great conference for gamers, less so for the xbox specifically.

Many, many games shown are on my radar or are must buys already but MS needed something completely new from first party. Crackdown campaign barely got touched on so hopefully there's a hands on with it later in the week (show floor). SoD2 has potential but it's another 2018 game. SoT looks as fun as ever but I'm still unsure of longevity of it for me. Ori is probably my biggest game for One/W10 exclusive wise. The first was phenomenal.

That said, multiplatform games were great. The Metro announcement and Anthem in particular are currently my top picks thus far and looked great. AC looked like a nice change and it's what combat was showed looked to be improved too so I'm expecting to see more on it later this week for sure.

It's pretty fair to say I expect Sony to WOW me more but generally speaking, I really liked what's I saw but wanted more first party games.

[LastCenturyRob]

Not sure what the Sony fanboys were watching but what I saw looked really good.... That and without question the best place to play third party AAA games will be the Scorpio. THAT is what will infuriate Sony fanboys most of all.

[Skillz1215]

What the hell did u watch?

[_-EDMIX-_]

Lol

I agree what I saw looked absolutely fantastic...for PS4 and PC. I mean have you not even realized that the best place to play multi platform games by default will always actually be PC in regards to technical performance?

I'm sorry but that's not as relevant to me or many gamers as much as new games are and nothing was shown for the Xbox in regards to exclusives all that was shown the entire event was just multi-platform games.

So trust me I really liked their press event I mean I'm definitely interested in Metro Assassin's Creed and I'm definitely buying Anthem day 1......on PS4. This was just a completely horrifica and pathetic showing for the Xbox platform they've literally put themselves into deeper irrelevant see in regards to Gamers because I'm just completely puzzled at who exactly watches this press conference and says they need to buy an Xbox to play these games.

Why would I buy an Xbox to play these games when I own a PC and Playstation 4?

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Buddy I'd rather save the money to actually buy those games and even to buy the switch then to purchase an Xbox One just to play the same games I already can play on systems I already own.

So sure I agree with you what I saw also looked really good .. and can be found on other platforms.

[WelkinCole]

Not when you need to fork out 499 for it just for the console itself.

[kindkinesis]

Agree with the article. Microsoft showed great games but most of those are multiplatform.

[Majin-vegeta]

https://youtu.be/xxJZYXsxF2...

[Shapeshifter75]

Lol! I thought it was just me but that line preceding just about every trailer irked me! They tried to drive that point home a little too hard. And for what, timed exclusivity on mostly indie games!?

[rainslacker]

That's because they think if they say it enough times, people won't keep saying that they have no exclusives. Even though they pretty much just exemplified exactly what people have been crtiicizing them about, that thy don't have much in the way of 1st or even 2nd party content.

[InTheZoneAC]

xbonex, just when people get made fun of all the time for having too many x's in their name MS decides to follow the trend...

[modelgod]

@MagicBeanz just like you definitely don't know how to spell definitely. Lol! J/k

[Profchaos]

Did they just announce the xbox 9?

[RosweeSon]

Launch Exclusvie!! Comes out on Xbox on a Tuesday and Playstation on the Wednesday or the following week/month/year. Hey ho. Typical microspin.

[e3kehoe]

I was personally a little underwhelmed by what they showed. Metro looked fantastic and forza looked amazing but everything else was just kinda eh. There were some cool looking games for sure but nothing that really wowed me. Except metro if that was actual gameplay.

[ZwVw]

Phil Spencer is the cancer that is slowly eating away at MS in the way of 1st party exclusives.
To PlayStation & PC enthusiasts, he's the best thing to happen to XB1.

[Golden_Mud]

A James Allard guy alike has to be found if for the xbox to succeed as a selling unit. I don't see much hope for the Xbox division within the hands of Phil Spencer, it seems that he doesn't understand how to have power and stop listening to the higher ups, James Allard had risked a lot just to make the Xbox shine, then comes a guy and takes down all that effort.

[starchild]

Actually, I only own a gaming PC, PS4 Pro and a PS3, but I still want Microsoft to do better. We need strong competition in this industry to drive up quality and innovation. And people have different tastes and needs anyway and it's always good to have different options.

I was also hoping Microsoft would announce a couple big AAA exclusive for Xbox One and Windows so that I could play them on my PC. They showed some cool looking indie titles and a couple previously announced AAA games, but new AAA announcements were sadly lacking.

[WelkinCole]

Agree. Even if MS announced that they bought or setup new studios to make games for the xbox that would have been better.

I also don't want MS to fail for the same reason. However they really do need to step up. Imagine if they bring out new game franchise that can compete with Sony's lot. More better games selection, more business for the industry everyone wins. Forza is a great example when MS gets their shit together.

[rainslacker]

I think it's MS itself which is a problem for Xbox more than Spencer. Spencer does some good stuff, but I remember when he didn't seem like a complete tool.

I'm starting to wonder if MS even knows what's wrong with the Xbox. It's not unlike MS to actually completely miss the mark in addressing criticisms against them.

I'm also wondering if Scorpio fails to bring in renewed interest in Xbox, if Spencer will even have his job by the end of next year.

[Maxor]

Don't care about anything else. Right now the only thing on my mind is how bland and boring Destiny 2 look compared to this and will it run at 60 FPS.

[MetroidFREAK21]

As a mainly XB1 user, there were not enough exclusive games to really stand out. Some interesting ones no doubt, but I still will be purchasing more 3rd party multiplats than exclusives.

[RGB]

Xbox E3 showed 5 Xbox/Windows 10 "exclusives";
Forza Motorsport 7, State of Decay 2, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3 & Ori and the Will of the Wisps. Only Forza & Ori were new announcements.

8 other games that were "Console Launch Exclusives", basically Timed Console Exclusives.

Tacoma and Ashen were announced at last year's E3 as "Xbox/Windows Play Anywhere" exclusives but now are labelled "Console Launch Exclusives", pretty sure both will come to PlayStation at some point now. Even Cuphead was labelled "Console Exclusive", but I think Cuphead will be launched on Steam so not Windows exclusive.

"42 games to show", yet nothing surprising, no megaton, no OMG E3 moment, very poor conference. Metro: Exodus, and OG Xbox BC were the highlights for me.

[dumahim]

They said they showed 22 exclusive games, but I think a bunch were in the ID@Xbox sizzle reel. I counted 16 "exclusives" but 8 of them were listed as Console Launch Exclusive which is just a hidden way of saying timed exclusive.

edit: I mistakenly thought Metro was going to be exclusive, but it isn't. So actually only saw 15 "exclusives" and 7 of them exclusive to Xbox.

[tinezedw]

After this whole "Launch window exclusive "fiasco all sony needs to do it's say real or "not timed" exclusive after every ps4 only game and it will destroy microsoft,can already see the crowd going wild.

[rainslacker]

Do it after Spider-man and they could pretty much just close the show early.

[TheColbertinator]

I'm glad you all like indies so much. Indies are still mainly boring to me but the Xbox One X was the jump start this gen needed.

[gnothe1]

I'm convinced...NOTHING MS can show will ever be enough for the people that roam this site....

[ocelot07]

I am very disappointed in Microsoft. Now I wasn't expecting anything Xbox exclusive to be announced since they bring there games to PC now. But I was expecting some new 1st party games from microsoft. I was hoping they would take more risks like they did with Recore and Quantum Break. But nope they farted out another Forza game instead.

[Bobafret]

I have been onboard since OG Xbox but I am seriously disappointed in their show. Spencer needs to go.

[Jason_Plays_PC]

What happened to using the cloud with crackdown 3? Was that just hot air?

[3-4-5]

Anthem & Crimson Skies!

[Donnie81]

I saw plenty of nice looking titles during thier show. Playstation has a nice line up just because xbox might not be as good doesn't make it bad. A corvette is awesome but next to a Lamborghini its not nearly as impressive. Lets not be so negative and focus on the fact This week is like Xmas for gamers. The xbox show was good and I want Sony nintendo and all the devs to show us amazing games. I love this hobby and I'll go to any platform that offers me a quality experience.

[Felsager]

I think this resumes it completely.

"Sony has the luxury to be absent tomorrow and win E3 without showing a single game.

Microsoft:

1. The lack of Exclusive games is SEVERE.
2. The price for the console Scorpio of 500 dollars is too expensive making xbox owners spend 900 dollars this gen.
3. Crackdown 2 looks awful and failed to impress. The world destructibility powered by the cloud was left in air.
4. No Halo 6 on the presentation.
5. A copy paste of titan fall 2, Destiny 2, Warframe and Halo made by Bioware called Anthem.
(Remember: Bioware is well known for faking false graphics performances in early presentations)
6. A lot of nasty subscriptions and a repetition of endless game sequels that looks generic.

Microsoft, POWER is not everything if there are no exclusives to back it up.
Microsoft, watch how hard Sony will humiliate your ass tomorrow at 5:00pm teaching you how it is done."

[Doabarrelroll]

Okay first up xbox guys, when people on here said we want new exclusive games, you all said
"Wait for E3!!!!! MS gonna annouce three NEW IPs, you think MS gonna come to E3 with nothing new(guess what? they did)"

E3 is over for MS and they dropped the ball.....HARD. E3 for MS can be described in three words "console LAUNCH exclusives" aka times exclusive AKA multiplates. Not only that most were just indie games something sony has recieved ALOT of crap for in the past this gen at E3, I remember all the people on here saying SONY WASTING TO MUCH TIME ON INDIES! Nice hypocrisy going on here.

Not one new IP at all from MS. Sony already had more new IP than MS with sucker punch confirming they're at E3 and SONYS SHOW HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET! Any more IPs besides sucker punch and thats overkill.

The best announcement was OG BC and if thats your highlight im sorry thats a let down, and with the 500$ price tag on XONEX well MS did not break through this E3, speaking of XBONEX NOTHING on their show looked like it be impossible on the PS4 grahics wise best game there visually was Forza and well Forza always looks good so right now its not looking good for a company that wont shut up with "THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVER"

If Sony's Show is ANYTHING like last year or better well GG MS.

Also anyone here notice that MS's line up this holiday is their driest yet? Only F7, Crackdown and cuphead. Thats bad compared to years before. You guys better pray to god MS gives release dates for SOT and SOD2 at gamescon this year for the holidays.

[TheGamez100]

I was a bit surprised that code vain would be coming to xb1 and was only impressed by a couple of big multiplat third party games...that was it really. E3 so far has been meh, hope sony and nintendo change my view which of course Im sure they will.

[Jakens]

Three things,

No new X360 bc games announced? What?

No gameplay of any X360 title running on XBOX?

Only 30 games (third party) from XOne fully supported at launch of XBOX?

Hmm.

[BadElf]

Ohhh come on!

And then the "its a bit of a mouthful" comment? hahahaha come on!

[EatCrow]

Selling my Xbox. Absolutely no need for it at all at this point. They haven't shown me that they're not promoting 1st party content. In fact they've shown the opposite.

They've given up on 1st party ip.

That's aside the show was entertaining but being an Xbox show...it really didn't scream Xbox to me. It screened EA, Bioware, other devs that are not belonging or tied to MS.

[Mr Marvel]

Nothing in this conference made me even the slightest bit interested in the Xbox.

The only thing that caught my attention was the cool new Porsche 911 GT2 RS unveiling... but really, that has nothing to do with Microsoft or Xbox apart from appearing in a game.

I felt like I heard that dipshit say "EXCLUSIVE" a million times, but in the end I was like, "What exclusives?"
I could name 1 or 2 off the top of my head. lol