Crash Bandicoot Trilogy N. Sane will run at 1440p and 30fps on PS4 Pro

Vicarious Visions has unveiled details about the support for PlayStation 4 Pro of Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy.

[AspiringProGenji]

Maybe you should stop calling this a remaster because it is obviously not. It is an entire new graphic engine and all assets have been redone. Maybe that way some people will give you less shit for not being able to make a old game "remastered" run at 60 fps

Also there seems to be a typo there. The article mentions PS4 pro twice about the performance of the game. The game will run at 1440p on PS4 and will be upscaled from there to 4k on Pro, and FPS will remain the same.

[Nitrowolf2]

people would give them shit if it was a remake, because at that point they have no reason why you shouldn't run at a higher FPS.

From what I understand the reason why it's not considered a full remake like other titles is because they're building from the original levels?

[ninsigma]

They call it a remaster plus instead of a remake because it plays exactly like the originals. Every piece of code is new, all the assets are from scratch and music is re-done but it still plays just like the ps1 games. So they went with not calling it a remake for that reason. I think calling it a remake would have fine though.

[TWB]

Marketing. Remaster is a very recognizable term, and gives people the impression that these are the same games as the ones on PS1. If they called them remakes, some could think of something like the 2016 R&C remake.

Whatever, there really wasnt a rock solid definition in gaming for remasters either way. You cant exactly even use the same definition as in music because of large technical differences between the artforms. You cant really remaster code, while you can remaster sound and assets from the original source/studio/dev assets.

[Concertoine]

I can't believe no one cares a remake/remaster/WHATEVER of a platformer from the 90's is running at 30 fps. Platformers, especially hard ones like Crash, are wholly deserving of prioritizing the better control of higher framerate over visual fidelity.

It's ridiculous, there were more games in the ps2 era that weren't afraid to run at 60 fps locked. Now in 2017, not only is the PS4 not running this at 60 fps, but the UPGRADED Pro isn't either? Why has this standard of 30 fps, long loading times, and general technical laziness become acceptable?

[Cobra951]

@Concertoine: 30 fps, long loading times, and spending all the new graphics power on resolution alone. That's how the future of consoles looks to me right now. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Next year will tell.

[Aenea]

There is no typo, they are only talking about the Pro...

Otherwise it wouldn't actually have Pro support, (regular) upscaling is automatic so if PS4 and Pro both render at 1440p, nothing would change for the Pro...

The PS4 version supposedly runs at 1080p@30fps tho...

Ohh and no, this is an actual remaster, not a port or a remake...

[AspiringProGenji]

Oh ok I guessed it was a typo since it says "On PlayStation 4 pro," then in the next paragraph it say "on PS4 pro."

[TWB]

Depends what you consider a remaster. In my eyes, remasters have always been just enhanced ports, since in non-gaming context remastering always meant that you take the original product and then try to remix a better end result from the original assets, or using the existing assets. In movies for example, you go through the original film material shot in considerably higher quality than what is released on home video, then you recut the film in higher detail, and if its old enough to have originally been 4:3, release it in widescreen.

Something along the lines of Metro Redux would be a great example of a game remaster, while something like the Dishonored Remaster is just a port.

[DeadSilence]

Hopefully super sampling on 1080p sets, could have been 1800p but resources are limited so I guess they didn't put much effort into Pro since Ratchet looks amazing on Pro.

[zivtheawesome]

really doesn't matter with the type of game it is. 1440p30fps is perfectly fine for this.

[Darkwatchman]

Take a look at this and take a look at ratchet and clank which is leagues above this visually running at 30fps, but with checkerboard rendering utilizing a starting resolution of around 3200x1800; a monumental increase in resolution over 1440p. This collection should have been capable of 60fps on BOTH ps4 and ps4 pro. It doesn't look that good, but if it's going to be stuck at 30fps on the pro, they can sure as hell go further than 1440p unless they push the assets above the base console, which I doubt they are.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You know this how?

[Guyfamily999]

What disappoints me most is that I thought the game on all hardware ran at 60. The reveal trailer was in silky smooth 60fps.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I'm still gonna buy the game but I feel deceived. I was under the impression that the game was gonna run at 1080p60 on PS4 and like 1800p60 on Pro. Really disappointed. I personally don't think the graphics are THAT good, but I was excusing that because it ran at 60. But it doesn't. Merp.

[butchertroll]

You should realize that 30fps is a developers choice.

[Cobra951]

@Guyfamily: If you feel deceived, how can you still approve it with your wallet?

@butchertroll: Yes, the wrong choice.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Can't wait to play

[LordJamar]

as mainly xbox player i got nothing but respect for crash games are damn good wish voodoo Vince got the same treatment as crash with the remade assets and stuff still a fun game tho

[jstark]

dont give any respect to mario jr

[Concertoine]

I'm gonna wait for a sale since the developers didn't bother to get this running at 60 frames.

[_LarZen_]

Jesus Christ....one more 1440p (2K) game on the Pro. You would think that a game like that would run at least at 1800p+.

[Grievous]

1440p is not 2K. Not even close. 2K is a movie industry resolution and has only slightly more pixels than 1080p.

[2pacalypsenow]

1080p is 2k, 2048x1080.

2560x1440 is more like 3k

[TardcoreGamer]

nope. 1080p (FHD) is 1k. 1440p (WQHD)is often refered to as 2k. and 2160p is UHD aka 4k. Confused yet?

[2pacalypsenow]

How is it 1k, if it's a resolution of 2048 (2k for two thousand lines) or 1920 FHD for consumer aspect ratio ?? I think you're the one confused here. If anything 720 would be considered 1k since double that is close to 1080 (2k) and 4 times 1080 is 2160 (4K)

[2pacalypsenow]

Lol nope 4k means there is 4 thousand vertical pixels multiplied by horizontal ones. 4k doesn't stand for 4x the resolution. Otherwise it would be 4X not 4k. 4K is a marketing term for tv's since they cannot achieve over 4000 vertical pixels at a 16:9 Aspect ratio, but 3840x2160 is still considered 4k in the consumer level, it just sounds better than 2160p.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

And being ignorant is no reason to be rude.

Try again.

[nitus10]

The following site gives a fairly straightforward but comprehensive discussion on the TV resolution confusion: 1080p, 2K, UHD, 4K, 8K, and what they all mean. https://www.cnet.com/au/new...

Well worth the read since you really cannot explain the differences in one or two sentences.

[Cobra951]

1080p = 1920x1080
2K (theater) = 2048×1080
4K (theater) = 4096×2160
4K (home) = 3940x2160

TV standards go by vertical pixel count, while theater goes by horizontal pixel count (which explains why 1080p is very close to 2K). Or they used to, because now they're calling what should be 2160p "4K" on televisions.

These standards are easy to look up, guys. Giyf

[Fishy Fingers]

Would of expected native 4K to be honest, especially at 30fps.

[link2Dpast]

Damn do people really gripe about these technical issues. If the game is fun and satisfying what does it matter how many p's and fps's it is. Generation is so spoiled when it comes to image and graphics ect.. I remember the days when games ran between 15-30 and I gotta say I had an incredible childhood

[Cobra951]

I remember when nearly all games ran at 60 fps. Platformers in particular stuck to 60 fps whenever possible, with some slowdowns here and there. I'm talking about the 8- and 16-bit consoles, back in the wonderful late 80s and early 90s. While 30 fps may be adequate for many games, sidescrolling needs to a locked 60 fps, or the jitters will drive your eyes batty.

[cellfluid]

30fps?? What the hell.. This is unexceptable

[SockeyBoy]

Would rather 1080p at 60fps

[LordJamar]

would wish they would just give the option to let ppl choose

[Cobra951]

All day, any day.

[2pacalypsenow]

Ugh.... just do 1080p at 60fps.... resolution from 1080 to 1440 does not make that much difference.

[MadMax]

It does make a difference when you are playing it for yourself on a nice 4k set. Not to mention, the originals were all 30fps and were just fine. I have zero problems with 30fps. 1440 will look good..

[2pacalypsenow]

The between 1080p and 1440 is marginal. I play Horizon at 1080 on my LG C7 and the performance difference is much more noticeable than fidelity.

[Vegamyster]

1440p on a 4k difference does make a difference but so does 60 fps regardless of what resolution your TV is & offers better gameplay, especially for a platformer. it would have been nice for a 60 fps option & a high res 30 fps res option.

[ILostMyMind]

Good! Another game with better features in Pro.

[CoryHG]

Can it not do 60 fps at 1080p

[nato25]

Im fine with this but i was under the impressim it would be 4k on the pro. Didnt they even have that whole 'fur' k joke going. I find that really misleading now.

[Guyfamily999]

At the very least they could have done Checkerboard 1800p. CB 1800p and native 1440p have the same GPU strain but obviously 1800p looks much closer to 4K.

Tired of lazy devs not maximizing consoles with wonderful tech line checkerboarding and dynamic resolution scaling.

[MadMax]

Awesome, can't wait!

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Why does this old game not run at 4k native and 60 fps on pro? Wtf did I buy a Pro for?!

[BlaqMagiq1]

It's not an old game

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

It IS an old game. Idgf how you try to spin it. It's old and should be running native 4k 60 fps point blank.

[Goldby]

@BLk

they made the game from the ground up to mimic the old games.

this aint no re-release

[Athos]

I agree, but hey Sony got my $$400. To all those thinking about buying one save your money. I was just as happy with my launch day PS4 and even happier with my slim (better wireless) than I am with my Pro. The thing is a joke and quite honestly is going to become even more of one after Scorpio comes out.

Stop advertising this thing as a 4k machine, it isnt. I would get my money back if I could.

[MrBrofist]

Why indeed? I mean just get a gaming rig if frame rates and resolutions are so important...

[Athos]

I have multiple gaming rigs, I only use consoles for exclusives.

[Gyarados]

"I have multiple gaming rigs"

Yeah right LMAO. I bet you only have a dusty old xbone that your mommy bought for you. Go play screamride on the turdbox.

[cellfluid]

So this cant run 60FPS but battlefield which is a graphical leap can lol these lazy devs.The only thing ps4 pro is doing is revealing LAZY DEVS

[Gwiz]

I'm amazed they only support 1440P while running 30fps LMAO.
Look at games like The Last of Us Remastered :S.

[MrBrofist]

A game like this doesn't need 60fps.
Battlefield has more happening on screen than Crash.
Platformers can get away with 30fps "especial this one" because of the way it's structured.

Everybody is so damn obsessed with frame rate and resolution this gen.
It's sickening.
Fighting games,Racing games or graphicly demanding games sure,60fp is ideal but a 3d platformer that's not open world/free roamer? Not so much
As long as it doesn't dip below that, I'm good

[Bruh]

Not even checkerboard 1800p? This game isn't even all that demanding either, ME and BF both are FAR more graphically intense and reach 1800p checkerboard from 1440p on the Pro

[MrBrofist]

OMG! It's a platformer!

It doesn't need 60fp!
Most of you complaining won't even notice it!
I can see there are no real gamers here.
This isn't Battlefield or God of War where 60fp would be noticeable but it's not.

[DrJones]

Uhh.. What!? A platformer is Exactly where you would want. 60 fps!

[super_cuddles]

Are you kidding me? This is n sane, bring on next gen already zzzzz

[Cmoney007]

I can't wait to stream this game.

[timotim]

Another example of devs doing bare minimum work for Pro while showing that the console is really a 1440p box and not a 4K one. I see no reason why this shouldn't run at 60FPS on standard PS4, let alone Pro...in the end we find the vast majority of Pro's games are just a small improvement over the standard...hardly worth an extra $400...

[MultiConsoleGamer]

I can't wait to spend the summer replaying some of my favorite platforming games of all time. It's like revisiting my childhood.

[mark_parch]

still looks great and can't wait to play it but very very surprised the pro can't run it at 60fps

[MagicBeanz]

Everyone knows, no 60fps = no fun.

[MrMoe]

30FPS for this kind of game is unacceptable.

[fatbastard11]

Wow...that's absolutely pathetic

[horndog]

Those some crazy specs that PS3 is pumping out. Pretty darn good for a last gen s.........pro?! Wow that's some weak s!it. Thank goodness for Scorpio . It really is on a different league

[mandingo]

Why did they make PS PRO if it doesn't get utilized? All hail Scorpio :)

[Saijahn]

Why can't a game like this run at 60fps on the pro?

[GearSkiN]

wow that's stupid for this game not able to change fps on pro is pure bull, if this game comes on xbox scorpio this better be 60fps!

[Bronxs15]

That's disappointing. On a tittle like this I would expect 4k

[2pacalypsenow]

We all know if Naughty Dog was behind this, the game would be running at 4k - 60fps..