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Project Scorpio Shouldn’t be the Focus of Microsoft’s E3

Project Scorpio makes Microsoft's E3 conference feel predictable. That's a problem.

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Kingthrash3602947d ago (Edited 2947d ago )

They should have revealed it pre e3, that would have left room to talk about the games.
Givin the history of MS and xbox brand they might not have much to show and is why they are giving time to show the scorpio in action talk about pricing and whatever else scorpio related.
I hope they realize how crucial it is for them to actully bring games. Not a single game has been announced since last year's E3 and they still have games that haven't been released but show 3-4 years back.
Games like cup head has no reason to have been delayed so long. Its an indie. It loOKs fantastic but overall an indie and I can't understand why it's not out yet. Games like gears have been announced and released after cup head was shown...yet here we are still not out.
So all in all they need to show games....period. no excuses, no damage control, just a full on assault. Anything otherwise and the xbox may not recover.

Abash2947d ago

Yup, honestly a new Conker, Blue Dragon, Battletoads, etc. would be way more exciting than just seeing the Scorpio revealed. We have know it was coming for so long now, I want some genuine surprises

darthv722946d ago

@thrash... dont worry bro. It wont be.

Since YOU are the one they need to win over, MS is going to show up ready to deliver. Even you will be impressed, maybe enough to change your tune.

Just have to be patient and find out.

oSHINSAo2946d ago

A new conker game with a solid multiplayer game

4Sh0w2946d ago

I'm with you Bigpappy, I'll take both.

-lol, the naysayers act as if Microsoft is going to show up with a gd Scorpio PowerPoint, let it it run for an hour and a half, pack up and say: "Thanks for coming to E3, God Bless you, See you next year!" lmfao, the salt is choking these guys.

VoiceMale2946d ago

@4sh0w am guessing he has to be a fish...nobody can live in that much salt and not die.....
to think E3 scorpio presentation is take away and not a add on is just stupid

CoinOrc2946d ago

@4Sh0w
Based on past E3's, that's exactly what I expect from Microsoft. They have been saying "best lineup in Xbox history" for years now, and it has been disappointing. I'll believe it when I see it.

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JasonKCK2946d ago

Scorpio sure has put the fear in you

Kakashi Hatake2946d ago

Yeah sure, a more expensive Xbox One is going to put the fear in PS4 fans. /s

Brave_Losers_Unite2946d ago

Omg I'm so scared. Someone call the cops!

Guyfamily9992946d ago

The scorpio is only 40 percent more powerful than the Pro lol. It's not like it's some twice or three times as powerful God console. Chill brah.

81BX2946d ago

Scorpio cometh! Now bow down to the world's most powerful console!

TheCommentator2946d ago

Don't worry Jason, the people who aren't afraid are happy with a Pro quality system that requires a 4K TV to look any better (since it won't even support supersampling)... yet still can't even run in native 4K if you have a UHD set. That's why they mention price when it is still an unknown. That's why they mention games when they know games are going to be revealed at E3. That's why they make childish posts like, "OMG, I'm so scared!" to make themselves feel better instead of debate like rational human beings.

JackBNimble2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

Commentator
You sure talk alot of trash yourself.
So far all you have is what daddy Phil says you're gonna get, you can talk big when they finally do side by side comparisons of Scorpio and pro. Until then eat up all the hype and BS MS feeds you.

Brave_Losers_Unite2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

@Commentator

At least I am having fun with my comments not being a salty loser. Speaking of loser, aren't you the one that said this..?

"Xbox One can run native 4k, and I'll tell you why I think it will(I can already feel the flames-a-burnin').

win10/dx12 - Xbox One is the fully compliant with the new api, which may offer as high as a 500-600% performance gain once in place. "

So you are one of the gullible people that believed in the secret sauce. Your statements are as good as rubbish.

TheCommentator2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

Brave Losers, I said that, and what happened when Scorpio was revealed? They revealed that DX12 HW is baked into the XB1 just like it is in Scorpio. The performance gain you mention is for draw calls specifically (it was Brad Wardell who said it just before the NDA's shut him up), and 500-600% increase in draw call efficiency will easily be gained when using DX12 to make XB1 games that support Scorpio. MS said during the Scorpio demo that they were reducing CPU workloads by as much as 50% when they used DX12 properly. Call it secret sauce if you like, but the secret HW was there all along. Thanks for proving my OP right, for igniting the flames underneath me, and for reminding me just how right everything from the past has been.

Jack B, I have what MS says when I speak. I have what evidence shows me about Sony when I speak. When you speak you still have nothing. Talk all you want from here on, I've said all I have to say about things here.

Brave_Losers_Unite2946d ago

"Brave Losers, I said that, and what happened when Scorpio was revealed? They revealed that DX12 HW is baked into the XB1 just like it is in Scorpio"

This idiot completely neglects what I said and starts talking about the Scorpio. LMFAO

RosweeSon2945d ago

Why would Scorpio or any console for that matter put Fear into us mere console owners... a manufacturer may be a little worried but fear... an over expensive unwarranted console with no games 🤔👍🏻

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Obscure_Observer2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

@Kingtrash360

"Games like cup head has no reason to have been delayed so long. Its an indie. It loOKs fantastic but overall an indie and I can't understand why it's not out yet."

Because Cuphead is not the game it once was. Cuphead has evolved from a boss fight only game to a full full fledged platform game. To develop new stages and cenarios takes time. It´s better they take their time improving the game, than gives a release date only to be delayed again. I feel the same way about Detroit

"So all in all they need to show games....period. no excuses, no damage control, just a full on assault. Anything otherwise and the xbox may not recover"

Recover from what exactly? Xbox rest confortably at second spot as far i remember

freshslicepizza2946d ago

@Kingthrash360

Cuphead is hand drawn and is being created by two brothers.

"Anything otherwise and the xbox may not recover."

We've been hearing that nonsense from you guys for many years now and it's time you drop it. The CEO has full confidence in the Xbox and is pinnacle to their whole ecosystem. For someone who has shown the least amount of interest you seem to spend the most amount of time talking about it above all other products out there.

343_Guilty_Spark2946d ago

They going to reveal Scorpio with no new Xbox games? Where do you come up with this shit.

thexmanone2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

They revealed it at last years E3. It will be about games running on scorpio

XXanderXX2946d ago

They announced - make a public and typically formal declaration about a fact, occurrence, or intention
They revealed nothing

marquisray2946d ago

They are a day before e3 you have to know your facts b4 posting they are kicking there show off on Sunday this year And yes the Scorpio should be the focus i can't wait there will be games

TheCommentator2946d ago

I agree with most of what you posted King, but MS did technically reveal it before E3. They talked specs and elaborated upon them afterwards, showed a demo of it running Forza 6, let devs speak about it more openly, etc. Of course this year will show the games running on Scorpio, but they don't really need to talk any more about the Scorpio specifically.

Phil has mentioned that MS is focused on games now, has teased old IP, has not yet revealed games they were working on before last years' E3, and has plenty of knowns like CD3, SoT, SoD2, etc. Playground is working on a new title, and that there are some loose rumors that some high profile devs working on exclusives as well. There's a reason they've gone quiet on the games front... they were waiting to debut them on Scorpio.

I think that MS can still easily make this years' focus about games with a minimal of additional explanation about Scorpio. I guess we'll finally find out in a few weeks exactly what MS has been up to the last few years though.

XanderZane2946d ago

There's not a whole lot to talk about for Scorpio hardware. They will show the hardware and then talk about the games that will be played on it. I expect they won't reveal the price or release date until at the very end of the show. I'm sure they will show the specs once again as well. Still, most of this show will be about the games and maybe what new studios they will be acquiring. I'm sure there will be a few surprises along the way. There always is at every XBox conference.

Finch2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

For all we know it can be a E3 with nothing but games and at the very end show off Scorpio, price and date while saying everything you seen tonight was on Scorpio and walk away with a surprise exclusive game playing to end the show.

Godmars2902946d ago

Hasn't MS, Phil, already stated that the focus is going to be on PC ports? Regardless, anything they've currently got will likely be more an XB1 title.

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Lennoxb632947d ago (Edited 2947d ago )

*sigh* It's not. That's why they unveiled the the specs and performance beforehand. Even then the title makes no sense. They have to show games running on it. So how is it not the focus?

Sciurus_vulgaris2947d ago

I think MS, might open their show, with a Scorpio proper name, price(s) and release date reveal. While a new IP will close the show.

mcstorm2946d ago

I am wondering if it will be an old IP from the original Xbox that makes a come back or something from one of the studies like rare in the massive ips they had back in the day. Alittle like they did with ki as no one saw that coming. For me I'm happy with the ips the Xbox one has had so far but I see why people want more and for them to grow they need more. Interesting times for all 3 as the switch is on fire at the moment. Sony is doing well with the PS4 but need to re sell the psvr as it's doa at the moment and Microsoft trying to get it's foot back on the market with scoripo this E3 cold be very interesting

XanderZane2946d ago

I think they will do it in reverse. I think they will kick off the show with a new IP game that will shock everyone. The Scorpio reveal, price and release date will come at the end.

Goldby2945d ago

@mcstorm

Since when is over 900,000 be units DOA. That's more than the others combines

Aenea2946d ago

Specs and performance numbers and analysis are boring and that doesn't fit an E3 press conference well, simplest reason of all.

We don't know what they are going to show, I do expect Scorpio to take up a huge chunk of the time tho, but that's okay, they have the whole evening to themselves this time!

Obscure_Observer2946d ago

@Aenea

"Specs and performance numbers and analysis are boring and that doesn't fit an E3 press conference well, simplest reason of all."

Agreed. And that´s the reason DF made the spec reveal and analisys of the Scorpio. To make room for the games. ;)

freshslicepizza2946d ago

Sony used to spend time with sales charts and everything. I also remember the PS3 unveil at E3, calling it a supercomputer and a screen of what it could do.

But I agree, they should not spend a lot of time talking about Scorpio but rather show games running on it and Xbox console exclusives.

Aenea2946d ago

@moldy

And when they did that it was boring as all heck! Also really glad Sony ditched the Japanese higher ups from being on stage for too long.

Like I said, it would be boring, so it's a good thing this is already out of the way now!

343_Guilty_Spark2946d ago

@Obscure_Observer

But apparently Microsoft won't have any games according to PS fans.

Raiden2946d ago

MS will spend 10-15 mins top on Scorpio, we already aware of everything we need to now about apart from what it looks like, this is going to be all about how the game will run on across all xbox/W10 devices and what to expect.

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Bigpappy2946d ago

LOL. Big campaign to have M$ shut up about Scorpio. It is hilarious to watch.

Why wouldn't M$ show off the strongest console, pound for pound, ever release? That is as stupid as it reads.

Gazondaily2946d ago

Lol I know right? Luckily that narrative is confined to n4g and not out there in the real world!

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TheCommentator2946d ago

@ Kryptic

Nintendo disagrees with you.

AngelicIceDiamond2946d ago

Ms will focus on Scorpio at the beginning of the show telling us everything for no more than 5 minutes. Then they might talk about VR hopefully for like 2 or 3 minutes because I don't care about VR then they can get to the games. What I wanna know is what will be Halo's replacement this year.

Eonjay2946d ago

That will probably be crackdown 3

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KingKionic 2947d ago

Xbox Scorpio as well as Xbox Scorpio games will be the premiere focus of E3.

Its gonna be one to remember. Cant wait.

Nyxus2946d ago

Xbox Scorpio games = Xbox One games.

Summons752946d ago

Sure they will talk about backward compatibility and how it will enhance XBO games but there will be at least one exclusive for "any experience and graphics you can't get anywhere else".

KingKionic 2946d ago

Xbox Scorpio games but to be precise "games running on xbox scorpio" will be the focus of E3.

Cant wait to see Forza 7 running on scorpio.

Brave_Losers_Unite2946d ago

"Its gonna be one to remember. Cant wait."

Yeah it will be one to remember all right. Hopefully it won't be as bad as the Xbox One reveal.

343_Guilty_Spark2946d ago

Da fuq does this even mean?

You act people are oblivious that this is a massive upgrade over Xbox One. They will still show new Xbox exclusives

XanderZane2946d ago

There will be exclusives that will only run on Scorpio/XB1 systems. I expect they will also show some PC exclusives that won't be on any game consoles.

Skillz12152945d ago

@summon been getting those graphics on my PC for years

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Skillz12152945d ago

There are ZERO Xbox Scorpio games everything can be played on Xbox one and PC

sho0ok2946d ago

IMO MS needs to stay away from Japanese developers for exclusives. They really don't care about XBOX, and they don't put the effort into their games for XBOX.

SCALEBOUND (game had development trouble!)
PHANTOM DUST (Low quality, thus cancellation)
ReCore (Low Quality, should have been cancelled)

Lennoxb632946d ago

Square Enix is the only Japanese dev that's willing to play nice with MS. Everyone else is pretty shady.

sho0ok2946d ago

And I Bet that "Platinum Games" could have saved Scale-bound easily if they weren't focusing on "Nier: Automata" for Sony.

Goldby2946d ago

or If Ms actually elt them build the game they wanted to, you know focusing on the SP campaign instead fo the service based online still Ms wanted to add

OpieWinston2946d ago

@Goldby
Which game are you referring to that MS forced a service based online?
Because Scalebounds struggle was PG adapting to the big open world RPG they were trying to make. Not anything to do with MP.
And Darkside were originally not focusing on the SP that's why they pulled funding. All they had was a working MP demo and not much else.
And Fable Legends was service based online game, and that was cancelled.

SilverDemon2946d ago

Nier automata wasn't for sony
It was for square enix
You can't really blame Platinum games while xbox closing studios and cancelling games left and right

MasterCornholio2946d ago (Edited 2946d ago )

@Sho

Nier is playable on Windows 10 which is an operating system designed by Microsoft.

Platinum games was also focused on bringing Nier to Microsoft fans on PCs.

Goldby2946d ago

@opie

Phantom Dust remake.
The trailer they showed off wasn't even done by the people making the game and were shocked when they saw how different it was to what they were making

Raiden2946d ago

Because Square Enix is completely international, they have no choice.

DigitalRaptor2945d ago (Edited 2945d ago )

"Shady" he says.

Square Enix is a global business. Only a fan of a corporation that puts so little effort towards their own Japanese ventures and expects others to jump on board with them for it, would share that same level of entitlement and label the underpinnings of an entire culture as shady.

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343_Guilty_Spark2946d ago

They need to double down on Western devs for sure.

XanderZane2946d ago

They really need Western Devs 3rd party exclusives, just like Sony gets Eastern devs 3rd party exclusives from Temco/Koei, SquareEnix, Atlus, CapCom, SEGA, Namco/Bandai, etc... There are a lot of Western developers they should be able to get 3rd party exclusives from.

coolbeans2946d ago

You talk about them staying away from Japanese developers yet cite the Phantom Dust reboot (being developed by a team in FLORIDA) as an example? C'mon man.

sho0ok2945d ago

Sorry my bad... I thought that it was a Japanese game from its vibe.

Anyway it does not change the fact that Japanese developers don’t care about XBOX.

Redemption-642945d ago

Has it ever occurred to you MS doesn't like investing in Japanese games, hence the reason Japanese devs don't care about Xbox. Or maybe MS doesn't give them the creative freedom they want, or willing to compromise. If you have been ignoring a group of devs for so long, don't expect them to come to your aid

sho0ok2945d ago

@dan64 I understand what are you saying, but still.

A game like Saclebound that MS has put their faith and alot of money into and gave them a good amount of time, however the result which MS saw at that time was not up to par with what they expected.

Anyway, MS should keep away from JP games and focus more on western games.

They don't need to cater to Japanese people or RPG lovers.

XXanderXX2946d ago

Be cool if they started Sunday talking about but saved the reveal of major details for Tuesday morning surprise event just so to catch everyone off guard .....that would be cool.

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