Far Cry 5's villains are white extremists, could the hero be a Native American?

Ubisoft has unveiled Far Cry 5's cover art. The villains look set to be white, religious extremists. Does that mean we might see a Native American Hero?

[annoyedgamer]

Wouldn't know since there is no way I would give Ubisoft my money to feed me political propaganda.

[Bigpappy]

Almost every game is political. They are not there to brainwash you. I that games with choices allow for you to have and experience where the choice reflects your own morality. Like in elder scrolls for example, I never play the rolls that I find distasteful and I would never chose because of my personal moral code. Yet I would never petition for them to be removed, because I think some people even though they would do these things in real life, like what they can do on the dark side in games.

[Bigpappy]

Well there are evil people in all races. White people are certainly not exempted from it, and actually have a well documented history of it. Hitler is not the only instance.

But this game is not about "white Christian Males". It is about White extremist. Are you saying that they are one of the same?

The author mentioned Native Americans, but it could very well be a Black American.

Should we shut up and pretend that these things never happened. I don't think anyone should spend their lives dwelling on the pass, but hiding from it can be just as dangerous.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Kalk- Well because those things have happened for real and they are not simply just saying all "while christian males" its clear its focused on extremist, ie Jim Jones, Timothy McVeigh etc

Has nothing to do with ONLY "white Christian males" it has to do with RELIGIOUS EXTREMIST.

"stuff like this definitely feels like propaganda"

? Propaganda- " biased or misleading nature"

They are not misleading anyone about religious extremist bud, they never just said "all while Christian males in America" and left it at that.

They never stated "based on true events based on ALL AMERICAN'S" or "this is a documentary" lol

I'm sorry but you guys are over reacting over a video game. Its fictional, they are simply using the clear concept of religious extremist in America as one of the backdrops.

If we can have American History X as a film, we can have this as a game.

You wouldn't apply that to such a film, so why do it to a game?

Are we seriously not able to accept that games are also art and maybe they simply just want to use this situation in America as one of their concepts?

We are not talking about a schools text book here...

[Fishy Fingers]

Man people find the most stupid things to moan about. It's a computer game, we're gamers, play it until you're done then turn it off. Ignore any (non existent most of the time) political commentary that goes along with it. Easy.

[candystop]

Can i ask whats wrong with white Christian males? Curious why you or anyone would consider them evil?

[bluefox755]

There's no problem with portraying whites like this. No one should be off limits. The problem is though, whites are the only ones who ARE off limits. You'd never see a similar premise with muslims or far left extremists. Double standards are probably my biggest pet peeve, and you see them constantly in pop culture, video games are no exception. Let's assume that this game did have a similar premise, but with a Muslim group in Deerborn. You know damn well, all of these video game outlets praising this would be having the exact opposite reaction. They would be losing their minds, calling Ubisot "racist" and "xenophobic".

[darthv72]

I get more of a David Koresh and the branch davidians vibe from this than just the generalized white christian thing.

Not all christians are extremists but all extremists have some sort of religious calling which they believe tells them to do what they do. Extremists are in all forms of religion including made up ones like scientology.

[Goldby]

@Candy stop.

its not all white cristians that are evil, anyone thinking that has to reconsider what they take in as info.

but to deny the fact that there are extremist groups out there liek the West Borogh Baptist Church, The Klu Klux Klan, The Ilaga in the Philipines,

Every religion has their extremists, including Buddhism, a religion built around not hurting anyone or anything. There are always people who are goign to take advantage of others to further their own cause, and unfortunately sometimes that involves violence

[candystop]

Thanks Golby for the reply.

[subtenko]

yep, just look at ms pacman.......

[Goldby]

@candystop

np man

[DarXyde]

Resident Evil 4 and 5 pits you against hordes of Spaniards and Africans. That was apparently racist... then people got over it or didn't care.

Far Cry 5 pits you against white nationalists. The result will probably be similar. The way I see it, it's a very particular subsection of whites. The guy in the middle even looks a little like Richard Spencer with facial hair . If the previously mentioned games didn't do much politically, this shouldn't. Furthermore, I wonder if the people upset about Resident Evil are as upset about Far Cry 5 and vice versa.

People really shouldn't take these things to heart. Whether it goes against or coincides with your beliefs, if you feel offended, altered, or impelled by these games, you're doing a terrible job of dispelling the hypothesis that gaming adversely affects us.

[krypt1983]

@kalkano 80% of game developers are liberal crybaby cunts I've have had to unfollow a gang of devs off twitter because instead of talking about games or the game they sre working on they are to busy repeating shit they seen on cnn that was submitted by anonymous sources with no facts to back shit up, then i thought it's these kind of entitled cunts i give my money to no wonder gaming hasn't changed in the past 15 years no new development in the art just bettet resolution and more fps no innovation in gameplay

[Number_9]

Triggered. Will mow down Russians and all manner of brown skinned people in numerous games but "oh no, SJW are invading my games, I won't buy it!" You won't be missed.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Bingo

[Erik7357]

Little sensitive there buddy

[Gazondaily]

Lol triggered.

[moegooner88]

Nom nom. These delicious tears

[_-EDMIX-_]

I know right, best not to watch shows, films, read books, listen to music etc.

Don't let em get you bro /s

[zackeroniii]

what's up with your avatar? are you intentionally trying to troll or are you just unaware that it resembles the nazi symbol...

[spicelicka]

Haha speaking of feeding political propaganda, how ironic.

[DragonbornZ]

Yeah it's a bit telling

[yeahright2]

Funny, I don't remember you complaining about any previous farcry games. Yet they all did the same thing. Hmmm, what's different this time? Oh right, this time they're white so now it's political propaganda. So overly sensitive when it comes to white people, just as much so as the SJWs that you all keep saying need to not be all up in arms at everything.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So white extremism doesn't exist?

[FITgamer]

Stories like these really make you think who the "snow flakes" really are.

[gangsta_red]

I wonder if you felt that way with the other Far Cry games...

[frostypants]

So when it's stereotypical evil brown people you're fighting, that's OK.

But when they're stereotypical evil redneck white people, that's "propaganda"?

Go find your safe zone, snowflake.

[Dan_scruggs]

You must live in a very very small world.

[Bruh]

Man people are so sensitive these days, like jeez you need a hug or what?

[OrangePowerz]

Political propaganda because for once the bad guys are white religious extremists in a game?

You might not know that but they actually exist. Or did you think the KKK throw Casper the friendly ghost conventions and that's why they dress the way they do?

[FallenAngel1984]

Do all of Far Cry's box art need to have the villain be featured on the cover

[coolbeans]

Not all of them do it. Take Far Cry Primal for example. But since 3, all the numbered Far Cry games do utilize the villain to set the tone of what the protag is up against. I think it's quite effective.

[spicelicka]

Well the villains are more interesting than the protagonists so it makes sense. I think it's great, makes the games unique. Vaas is still one the greatest villains I've seen in gaming.

[Thatguy-310]

Maybe a Mexican or some sort of Latino.

[TheColbertinator]

Doubt it. FC5 takes place in Montana.
Nobody likes Montana.

[Fazraza]

Tony does

[oof46]

Beats Delaware. "Hi, we're in Delaware."

[Gh05t]

"Videogames have an even worse history of whitewashing that Hollywood does."

"All of which are things not likely to be looked fondly on by white, christian extremists."

"If both the protagonists and antagonists are white, Far Cry 5 will not only be a bit offensive, it’ll be boring."

"Only ever showing white guys fighting white guys is redundant."

Just a few key opinions in this "Article" to chew on.

Found a new rag piece website to block.

[PowerUpAU]

Disagreement is fine. It leads to conversation. I'd rather talk to someone who I disagree with than someone who just shares the same ideas I do. That would also be boring.
Would love to hear why these opinions are so offensive to you.

[Gh05t]

Thank you for changing the story type.

I have no problems with a discussion or you having an opinion. But you are making statements that are opinions without saying its an opinion.

"Videogames have an even worse history of whitewashing that Hollywood does."

This is using new "language" that is only meant as derogatory to one group of people, I challenge you to find a word similar to this that is acceptable to use in an article that is derogatory to any other group of people. Yet you use it without care or concern of offending others.

What is inherently wrong if I make a game or movie that is predominantly white? What if every movie or game that came out this month happened to only have white people in it, what is inherently "wrong" with that?

"All of which are things not likely to be looked fondly on by white, christian extremists."

Admittedly the weakest example I gave but was used to really point out its an opinion piece I dont necessarily disagree with you on this although I wish you would have added Nationalist or Supremacist. Since that is really more of their thing than a religious thing. Remember religion is full of people from all nations.

"If both the protagonists and antagonists are white, Far Cry 5 will not only be a bit offensive, it’ll be boring."

This one is concerning... again what is inherently wrong with white protagonists and antagonists in a story? Why do you find it a bit offensive? I dont get offended when I see non-white protagonists and antagonists in media. What do you call a person who gets offended by seeing a person of another race and is offended based on nothing but there race? Seriously If someone says... well that story would have been better but I wish the other guy was white... that door swings both ways.

"Only ever showing white guys fighting white guys is redundant."

This is pure opinion and you are allowed to it, I may not agree but then again I dont play games based on the color of a character, it holds almost zero relevance in 90% of the games made. One side note, you also brought up that people got offended when they thought the antagonist to FC4 was white... so White on White = Bad/Boring, White on Others = bad/"racist", but Others on White = Good/Fun... Do you see the flaw in this at all?

Also it feels like you have a world view specific to North America. Watch Bollywood movies, Chinese movies, Japanese Movies, and Korean Movies... want to talk about a homogenized media. By comparison we are doing GREAT!

[Yi-Long]

"Also it feels like you have a world view specific to North America. Watch Bollywood movies, Chinese movies, Japanese Movies, and Korean Movies... want to talk about a homogenized media. By comparison we are doing GREAT! "

Except for the fact the percentage of (distinctly) different races in those countries is far less (probably less than 10%) than it is in the USA (Slightly less than 40%)...

Statistics matter.

[annoyedgamer]

Trying to start a race war are we?

[PowerUpAU]

No problem. Should have selected opinion in the beginning.

I am white, but I find it a bit hard to find "whitewashing as a term offensive. Hollywood and video games tend to includes casts of characters that are predominantly white and that's where the idea comes from. There's nothing wrong with making something inherently white, that's what artistic license is all about. But it marginalises anyone who isn't white.

The problem with having only games come out with only white characters is about representation. As a white guy I see myself represented in nearly every game, but what about the African American Kid, or the Asian or...well take your pick. people who aren't white are regularly forced to see through the perspective of a white character. It's not inherently a bad thing either, but when it's the only option 99% of the time it's a problem.

That's the same for the protag and antag arguments. It's offensive because it ignores reality. Like i wrote, Montana has a rich cultural history of native americans. It would be far more interesting a conflict to see the religous zealots attempt to take their land etc and have them fight back than simply cast the player as a white guy fighting for what's right.
That's not to say a white character couldn't be good, it would just be a wasted opportunity and offensive in the context of representation and marginalisation.

I say white vs white is boring because we've seen it all before. As we have also with white vs everyone else. We often don't get to see the white christian portrayed as a villain which is why I would be interested to see a minority take the lead role as well as to draw from a broader pool of ideas, influence and culture.

[_-EDMIX-_]

". It's offensive because it ignores reality"

Agreed.

Great read and great points made.

" I would be interested to see a minority take the lead role as well as to draw from a broader pool of ideas, influence and culture"

Agreed.

This is something I want to see more in gaming in terms of artist seeking different concepts.

We see film influenced by culture and real issues in America and other countries and I'd love to see gaming take a crack at it.

People keep thinking that holding gaming's hand and not letting it cross that line is helping, its only having people look down at the medium.

Film like American History X releases, amazing film, but if released today as a game....A GAME! It would be something HUGE!!!

Gaming is so behind as an art form, for a film done in 1998 to release as a game, would impact the industry GREATLY!

I want to see games in the future able to release with that type of subject matter without causing THIS much of a ruckus.

Geez, some of the people on here literally sound like an old person crying about going to the movies and someone said "damn" lol

Lets please let the medium progress folks. At this point, a PBS kids show is more realistic to our culture then games lol

[annoyedgamer]

You might fool the others here but as one of the few who played watch dogs I know better. This will be an attack on traditional values any man who dares question his government or owns a firearm.

[Hanilugtehul]

Why you talking about race? Its a just a Game,where you play a humanbeing,race isnt important. And yes i Have friends and familie members who are black and asians and The funny thing is they never complain that they are playing a white guy or saying its boring,its just a Game.Im white and i Have no problem playing a black,white or asian guy/woman only thing that matters is are The game good or bad. Enjoy The Games peace:-)

[ZombieGamerMan]

Alright first off how is anyone being marginalized like honestly how is anyone playing the going to feel like they don't matter? That's a stupid statement to make.

Secondly the representation angle is a beyond retarded statement that people like minded as you seem to base the whole argument on and falls apart literally to any fantasy or sci fi game that let's you play as a non human. I am not white and I don't feel less represented cause most game characters are white. Since you know the actual skin color of the character doesn't matter but his character that does. Seriously who sits down and thinks to himself "Man I would sure like to play some video games but I don't feel represented so my enjoyment of them is hampered by it."

[Erik7357]

I thought people behind the black lives matter moment were whiney sheesh lol

[SaveFerris]

The developers will be criticised no matter what. If the player character is white, people will complain about lack of diversity, if the player character is non-white, others will complain about a 'political agenda', especially if it is a woman. I'm not particularly interested in the game, but I dislike the fact that issues like this are becoming more common in video games, just as it has been growing in the movie industry.

[_-EDMIX-_]

"people will complain about lack of diversity, if the player character is non-white, others will complain about a 'political agenda', especially if it is a woman"

100000% AGREED!

Gamers need to let artist freely create their damn games.

If anything, both sides want developers able to create games without outside influence by the publisher or marketing teams ie telling them to make the character a buff guy or a gay girl etc for some agenda or something.

For or against it, both are still asking for (or should be) artist full and free choice.

[SoulWarrior]

Before everyone gets OUTRAGED.. why don't we wait for the reveal tomorrow and more story details?

[dauntingcookie]

White extremists? Literally, the only information about this game we have is this picture. In Montana the population is literally 90% white.. It's about a cult based on the sinner writing and the religious symbols not some race war. It's just a game Rachel Maddow. Now gaming websites are race baiting. Jesus.

[ibrake4naps]

take down whitey as a trans gender social justice warrior!!!

[Mr Lahey]

White extremists? How dare they!? Not all white people are extreme!! 😂
The smell of butt hurt is strong in this thread.

[ginsunuva]

We are X-TREME brooooo!!!

[spicelicka]

Unless you're Shaun White am i right?;)

[ziggurcat]

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[dumahim]

Could be. Could also be a dolphin.

[PowerUpAU]

now that would be interesting

[FullmetalRoyale]

Or a man that identifies as a dolphin...

http://i2.asntown.net/h4/13...

[zb1ftw777]

Think I'll skip this game due to the blatant racist undertones.

Thanks.

[Aenea]

Huh? What? Wow!

What racist undertones?

[zb1ftw777]

That all white people with beards are extremists.

Very, very racist.

[Mr Lahey]

LOL! 😂

[ziggurcat]

There is nothing "racist" about this game...

[zb1ftw777]

That all white people with beards are extremists.

Very, very racist and untrue.

[starchild]

Don't you think we should wait to see what the game is actually about?

[Aenea]

"That all white people with beards are extremists.

Very, very racist."

Not sure if serious or you're just 5 years old....

[Psychotica]

Why can't we have liberal snowflakes trying to shove their immoral secular agenda down our throats as the evil villains? There could be missions to stop them from importing and supporting illegal immigrants that drain our finances and then there could be missions to destroy the baby murdering factories, missions to stop the LGBT agenda from spreading, missions to stop atheists from removing God everywhere etc etc. THAT is a game I would buy and play over and over..

[Paytaa]

^Imagine being this upset over speculation of a new video game

[Psychotica]

Who's upset?

[Paytaa]

Your mom's brother's uncle's third cousin

[Jc95]

its sad to see the disagrees that you have due to the educational system raising these people to believe in a lie. Those disagrees most likely support baby murdering, transgenders, and soon to come beastillity because everythings ok in their fairy tale world as long as it doesn't interfere with their lives.

[Killa78]

Lol white tears!

Snowflakes everywhere 8)

[SquidBuck]

my tears are clear, better get that checked!!

[_-EDMIX-_]

LOL

Would be awesome.

[xtremexx]

Sick of people saying political agenda. If you're dumb enough to get brainwashed by a game, you were going to get brainwashed anyway.

Apparently doing anything different is not pushing some form of agenda, it just makes you realised that a lot of people are just hypocrites.

[DaGreatOne]

Maybe it's just me as a black male, but I managed to make it through Grand theft auto San Andreas back in the day and according to sales a lot of others were fine with all the stereotyping in it as well.

[Muadiib]

They could've made a game that dealt with the real evil of our day, Islamic extremism, but they were too cowardly for that I suppose.

[Liqu1d]

That would be boring, the antagonist would be a generic brown terrorist with a beard and the protagonist would be a generic white US soldier. Those overused themes can stay in games like CoD.

[Number_9]

Aren't you tired of that? That's like every other movie/CoD/24

[Paytaa]

Or they can make any game they want. Games like Far Cry are works of ficition so there are no boundaries.

You wanna play generic white Marine 5 who kills brown people? Play any modern shooter in the last decade.

[spicelicka]

How the fuck? Cowardly? Are they obligated to conform to whatever is relevant to the world at this time? You're mighty ignorant. Far cry is about lush open worlds and nature, not about politics. Their job is to make a game about whatever the fuck they want, your job is to shut up and play it.

[Goldby]

that isn't the only real evil in the world.

there have been more killings by americans in america than Muslims.

Heck one of the reasons there was a civil war was because some white extremists still believes blacks to be less than there own dogs.

but ya, just ignore all the home grown terrorism, continue buying dem guns, and listening to your joke of a president (who is now siding with the islamic extremists btw)

[SquidBuck]

I bought a Glock the other day. It's extremely fun to shoot. Also, the civil war was not about whether slavery was wrong. Abraham Lincoln said himself he wanted the war to end whether that included freeing slaves or not.

[starchild]

The civil war wasn't really fought over slavery as some seem to believe. It was more about states' rights and taxation and unequal spending on projects in the north and south.

[S-Word]

They didn't want to get "religion of peace'd".

[The_Sage]

That's just stupid.

[Inzo]

I just want to know, are you allowed to be offended if you are not American?

[StormSailor]

And what would black extremists villain look like? Members of the Black Panther Party?

I hope this game does not suck at the agenda of cultural marxism

[Goldby]

beyond some peoples beliefs, Blacks can be a part of any religion as well, so it could be a black Christian, or a black Buddhist, or a black Taoist

[StormSailor]

But they are "white extremists", I hope to have an interesting coherence be a member of the KKK founded by the US Democrat party

[ziggurcat]

@storm:

you need a history lesson: http://www.livescience.com/... it was the opposite back then.

[ABeastNamedTariq]

Methinks you've never researched the BPP.

[opinionated]

"White extremists" lmao. That's a wet dream for modern American left wing hacks. I remember when some crap would pop off like the Colorado theater shooting and the media was hoping and praying it was some tea party nutjob. These people are pathetic and it's a shame that views like this are attached to this game because of the setting. You people are clinically insane.

[ziggurcat]

"'White extremists' lmao. That's a wet dream for modern American left wing hacks."

... because there's never been anything in the history of the world that involved a white extremist, right?

[opinionated]

Yeah, exactly... history... because it's the 1700s and you are so oppressed. Poor modern minorities, they have never had it so bad lol. The intersectionality movement is an utter joke and their oppression quest is the most ignorant view in American history.

[ziggurcat]

1. I'm not a minority
2. religious extremism isn't something limited to Muslims
3. what does this have to do with the intersectionality movement?

you said "white extremists lmao", implying a belief that there is no such thing - there are many instances of white extremism in modern-day History, but continue to keep your head in the sand while you hold your ears, going "LALALALALALALA"...

[opinionated]

1. So you just have white guilt lol
2. They didn't say "religious extremists" they said "white extremists". Christians aren't only white. I live in a black baptist neighborhood in the south.
3. It has everything to do with the intersectionality movement. I didn't bring up "white extremists and the noble native to take his pound of flesh". How are they "white extremists" exactly? Lol.. it's a cult, where did the racial component come in? It came from the intersectionality mindset. Everybody joining forces to quell the "white devil". This game probably has nothing to do with "white extremism" but you wouldn't know that looking at these ignorant articles on n4g.

I didn't bring up "white extremists", I laughed at the notion that these idiots pull that out of their butt by looking at that pic. Oh please do share your knowledge of modern white extremism. I'm honestly curious.

[ziggurcat]

"Christians aren't only white..."

The game takes place in Montana, which has a 90.6% white population ( https://www.infoplease.com/... ). So, the Christians in this game happen to be white.

"It has everything to do with the intersectionality movement.."

no it doesn't, you brought that into the conversation.

"... It came from the intersectionality mindset..."

no, it didn't. that's just you making an erroneous leap in logic.

"I didn't bring up "white extremists", I laughed at the notion that these idiots pull that out of their butt by looking at that pic."

The antagonist of this game appears to be the leader of an extremist Christian cult - he also happens to be white, therefore "white extremist" is appropriate.

"Oh please do share your knowledge of modern white extremism. I'm honestly curious."

Well, the KKK continues to be a thing. There are Neo-Nazi groups scattered all over the world. Then you have people like David Koresh, James Warren Jones, Charles Manson, Joseph Di Mambro and Luc Jouret... shall I go on?

[opinionated]

"The game takes place in Montana, which has a 90.6% white population So, the Christians in this game happen to be white."
So what? "Christian extremists" or "cultists" aren't the same as "white extremists" and you know this. You're just doing mental backflips to make excuses.

"no it doesn't, you brought that into the conversation."
Sure it does. I didn't bring up the conversation, I just pointed out the ignorance of that new wave trash preached by millennial morons.

"no, it didn't. that's just you making an erroneous leap in logic."
Sure it did. How am I wrong exactly? You couldn't say.

"The antagonist of this game appears to be the leader of an extremist Christian cult - he also happens to be white, therefore "white extremist" is appropriate."
It's absolutely not appropriate, that's garbage and you know it. That cult could have nothing to do with "white extremism". Just because he's white doesn't make him a white extremist lmao. Talk about leaps in logic...

"Well, the KKK continues to be a thing."
Hardly lol... where? I live in the south dude, they would get their ass kicked around here. They are in some basement of 5 people talking about the good ol days.

"There are Neo-Nazi groups scattered all over the world."

The game is set in Montana (as you would say) not Germany. Where in America is there an influx of neo nazis? It's not a problem here. Intersectional morons think white people who want limited government and lower taxes are "white extremists". They are a joke, complete morons.

"Then you have people like David Koresh, James Warren Jones, Charles Manson, Joseph Di Mambro and Luc Jouret... shall I go on?"
Yes please do talk about cults that have little to do with white extremism.

[ziggurcat]

"So what? "Christian extremists" or "cultists" aren't the same as "white extremists" and you know this."

not all Christian extremists or cultists are white extremists, no, but in the case of this game, these specific characters are.

""no it doesn't, you brought that into the conversation."
Sure it does. I didn't bring up the conversation, I just pointed out the ignorance of that new wave trash preached by millennial morons.

"no, it didn't. that's just you making an erroneous leap in logic."
Sure it did. How am I wrong exactly? You couldn't say."

Care to cite anything in the article that mentions intersectionality? you're the one who brought it up. not me, not the author.

"Hardly lol... where?"

So... the KKK isn't a white extremist group anymore because they're not as visible? did they suddenly have a change of heart?

"The game is set in Montana (as you would say) not Germany. Where in America is there an influx of neo nazis?..."

You asked for examples of white extremists. You can't just dismiss any of the examples because the game is based in Montana... but if you want an example: https://www.theguardian.com... and it happens to be in Montana - satisfied?

"It's not a problem here"

of course it's not when you turn a blind eye.

" ... Yes please do talk about cults that have little to do with white extremism."

again, those are examples of white extremists. you're confusing "white extremists" with "white supremacy" here.

"Intersectional morons think white people who want limited government and lower taxes are "white extremists"."

interesting... because there's nothing about the game that's implying all white people who want limited government/lower taxes are white extremists.

[opinionated]

"Care to cite anything in the article that mentions intersectionality? you're the one who brought it up. not me, not the author. "
The headline itself reeks of it, you don't have to look far. They or you didn't mention intersectionality but the things being said are something the intersectionality movement would say. Just saying "white extremists" comes from that mindset. You say it doesn't but it obviously does, it's a textbook definition and you can't tell me how I'm wrong. I would love a game about a Native American seeing white colonization for the first time. That's not what this article is about, it's modern garbage, an intersectionality mindset.

"So... the KKK isn't a white extremist group anymore because they're not as visible? did they suddenly have a change of heart?"
No the kkk actually are white extremists lol. My point is that they barely exist and if they do it's in the shadows in small numbers. They are insignificant, not a modern problem.

"You asked for examples of white extremists. You can't just dismiss any of the examples because the game is based in Montana... but if you want an example: https://www.theguardian.com... it happens to be in Montana - satisfied?"
Why not? You dismissed black Christians because 90% of Montana is white. We're not talking about the world we are talking about America. Oh one guy! Lmao.. wow such an influx of nazis around here.

"of course it's not when you turn a blind eye."
Turn a blind eye to one 38 year old in Montana? Damn right I do lol.

" again, those are examples of white extremists. you're confusing "white extremists" with "white supremacy" here."
White supremacy is white extremism. You are confusing extremists who are white with white extremism lol. Like the idiots in these articles. I know you are smarter than this, you are obviously playing devils

"interesting... because there's nothing about the game that's implying all white people who want limited government/lower taxes are white extremists."
Obviously. But you are talking about cults from 70 years ago, I'm giving you what these idiots think "white extremism " is today. That's how dense these people are. It's not the KKK, it's not nazis, it's limited government people now. That's because these people are ignorant Marxists who don't know how good they have it.

[victorMaje]

Not necessarily, religious extremists should/could be put down by anyone. Hell I bet if extra-terrestrials arrive & discover religious extremism they'd be like "this shit's gotta end" (in alien-tongue of course).

[Goldby]

or "F*ck this, thats 5 systems in a row, can we just go back home?"

[JokerBoy422]

$100 says all the white people are racist hicks that are religious extremists to further the narrative that white people are the devil and that Christians are to blame for all the problems in the world. You definitely wont be playing as a white hero as that would defeat the whole purpose to demonize white people. I want a crisp $100 too, no change.

[Goldby]

Thsi isn't demonizing White people.

this is showing an extremeist group, not all white people.

is that so hard to see. if you are comparing 5-10 people (IN A VIDEO GAME) with all of white christians, you need to really reconsider not only how you take in your info on a day to day basis, but maybe try opening your eyes.

There are extremists in every demographic and religion.

[Number_9]

Did you scrutinize the games where you played a white guy up against the evil brown man with this much intensity or is that reserved for when your people don't get to be the good guys?

This by the way coming from a Christian who understands that just because someone claims to be acting in the name of my faith doesn't necessarily mean that they actually are. By its very definition, Christianity cannot be extreme and therefore any extremists are following their own doctrine

[MetroidFREAK21]

I'm just here to play video games

[Noskypeno]

I still haven't seen get out yet, don't care about reviews or how many saw it. If this is similar i will avoid it. Just imagine if a movie has a white guy with a black girlfriend whose family just happens to live in South Africa and he has to use his superior intelligence to get out of Africa.

If we are a racist nation than why are we allowed to believe that blacks are better at sports (even though the patriots are one of the most dominant teams, along with the mostly white 80s Celtics), have better music(thats just opinion) ,better lovers (the divorce rate is at an all time high for every race).

[yeahright2]

Like resident evil 5?

[ABeastNamedTariq]

LMAOOOOO....DUDE.....

The amount of idiocy in what you just said, I can't fathom it lmfaooo

[jznrpg]

Maybe? Could be white , black, latino, asian, alien, the pope who knows. For the people getting mad that this portrayed white people poorly, get over it. There are crazy fucks of all races stop being pussies because your color is being represented this time. And before you think I am not white you guessed wrong

[Ashunderfire86]

Oh look 👀 it's the Honey Boo Boo modern era. Cry me a river, and big whoop! So what if these are some white extremists, love something different for a change. We are ready did Africa in Far Cry 2, seems fair to me.

[kevnb]

the hero will be a transgender Olympic medalist.

[StormSailor]

hahahahaha

[gbsrnctaln]

Montana is 90.58% white. In real life, who would the protagonost be???

[DrShoe]

I hope the protagonist is a black female lady with bangs and a cool attitude!

[EverydayJoe]

Jackie Brown

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Didn't white Christian males slaughter and rape the Native Americans, enslave the west Africans, pillage the continent of Africa, rape and pillage the Aboriginals, raped and pillaged Asia, developed the concept of race and white superiority, developed conc pts such as apartheid and segregation. You can go back over 1000 years and see the evils of the white fake Christian nationalist male. Spare us the victim complex.

[Noskypeno]

Why are African leaders begging the whites to come back to make farms, even though they are being tortured and aren't allowed to be considered refugees even though they are being attacked for their skin color.

[Number_9]

Who's begging? Where? And even if that were true, does that mean all that which was mentioned didn't happen? There can't be evil white people because they are evil black people as well? Is that the logic we are going with? Don't tell a story about evil white people because white farmers are getting killed?

[Liqu1d]

Nope, never happened. Fake news. /s

[Tankbusta40]

Typical millennial bullshit. Raping pillaging and enslaving has existed since the dawn of humanity across every continent. This type of ignorance that claims only white Christians did this is the type of crap liberal teachers force feed students these days. Long before white Europeans had the slave trade, the Africans were enslaving themselves.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Typical everybody else did it before we did it bull crap.

I bet if you went across the world and showed people a picture of people by race of who they dislike they'll point to white people.

Native Americans - stole land and forced removal, raped women, diseases, slavery

Africans - stole land, resources, apartheid, fragmented Africa, rape women, slavery

Arabs - steal oil, bombs us everyday, tried to steal land

Asians - fragmented Asia, stole resources, no honor, raped women

Oceania - stole land, decimated society

Latin America - stole land, sneaky, disease, raped women

There is no group of people who haven't been negatively affected by the fake white Christian male nationalists.

[Number_9]

I see nothing here that even remotely suggests that only white Christians did this type of crap. Just because they happen to be the focus in this one particular game does not mean that they are in anyway responsible for all the atrocities this world has seen. Just some of it and every once in a while that story has to be told.

Do you want this game about this particular brand of extremism to feature side missions that portray other extreme cultures and races just so that you don't feel like you or your kind are being attacked? Imagine if every game that featured Brown people being the bad guy had to first establish that not all brown people are bad and that white people can be bad too. Wouldn't that get tedious? Yet somehow we play all these games and nobody has to tell us that the brown guys aren't all bad on the planet, why must it be disclaimed when it's white people who are being portrayed as the extremist bad guys?

[starchild]

Go learn something about history. Your view is myopic. Every human population on the planet has been guilty of war, slavery and conquest at various points in their history. If there is shared guilt based on the race one belongs to then we're all guilty.

[Jc95]

You have some points there but are missing the main one. All races are equal, and its not like you can exempt all the other races and peoples for their thousands of years of evil, such as the Babylonians, Egyptians, Asians. I'm sorry that you only focus on white people being vastly more evil than other races when history shows how flawed the human race is.

[NecoTehSergal]

I hope this isn't politically charged to fit the SJW and PC culture of labelling everyone that disagrees with them a Nazi and White supremacist..... I know Ubisoft is full of cucks and SJW's but....can I at least pray it's not politically motivated?

[winter_hill]

It will be and you know it will be. Fcuk ubicuck and their shite agenda.

[joestrummer77]

wow,you americans are a sentive lot.

[BABY-JEDI]

Could the new hero be Donald Trump? This would be priceless beyond a doubt 😂LoL

[Gunstar75]

White religious extremists?
This sounds boring.... do we get to hold a "God hates Fags" placard at a funeral?

[LastCenturyRob]

When are we going to get a Far Cry that takes place in Afghanistan and goes after ISIS?

[Goldby]

that would be boring as all F

go play cod if you want to go after middle eastern terrorists

[LastCenturyRob]

COD? Two different styles of games. IF you can't see the potential that's not my issue its yours.

[Goldby]

If you can't see the overused villain that's your problem not mine.

They are both shooters and the would both be dealing with the same group the only different is the game would be set in the MGSV maps. Doesn't sound very exciting.

Personally sounds more like a cash grab.
"Hey guys the evil in the world is being shown as Islamic terrorists let's make some money off that. "

[Jc95]

"Personally sounds more like a cash grab."
"Hey guys the evil in the world is being shown as Islamic terrorists let's make some money off that. "

-Yeah, it would be boring playing a game based on Islamic extremism wouldn't it? Lets demonize Christians and while were at it... make the religious cult predominantly white because everybody hates whites historically! It's a double whammy! But hey, It's not like Muslim refugees are invading and destroying Europe right now as we speak; no... the true evil is the Christians and their moral values! You see, i'm not as worried about Ubisoft attacking whites, i'm more concerned on Christianity being attacked through the portrayal of a race of people known for being hated by the masses. Don't get it twisted, ALL people to me are equal and no race or person is better than anybody else.

By the way, i'll let you in on some info... Islam is naturally extreme; for example, the Quran condoning murder in many verses for not believing in Allah. Why do you think the terror still goes on today? And don't give me the crap that the Bible condones murdering, because it doesn't. Not my fault historical sociopaths claim catholicism or christianity in the name of evil and murder, thats not what the Bible condones. If your really feeling froggy, read the 10 commandments to brush up on what God thinks about laws.

[holdmyown83]

Hey it's Ubisoft they might not even have faces in the final release.

[BadElf]

Why would that mean the hero will be Native American?

[Goldby]

the author is connecting white extremeist with the pioneers that took the land from the native americans, and havign this as the payback they have been waiting for...

[Tankbusta40]

Except there is no such thing as a native American, they were people who crossed the land bridge into America 10 thousand years ago.

[BadElf]

Great....so we are going to be playing as a racist Native American?

[oof46]

Am I alone in saying, I don't care?

[subtenko]

Already stating with this stuff huh? :|

[DafunkyRebel]

Nope its gonna be a Genderless Right Wing nut job trying to kill everyone to make an even worst cult

[lizard81288]

The hero will be Donald Trump! He will be the best hero that the series has ever seen. You can ask the experts and test groups. I can guarantee you, he scored the highest out of them all, just ask anybody that was there. Fact!

[BlindMango]

Should we make a "Trash" category for clickbait like this?

[Pearljam]

Yea way to not get my money Ubisoft keep politics out of video games!! Yea I'm talking to you Neal cuckman

[CrystalFantasy]

And these deplorables call Liberals snowflakes Lmao.

Cry me a river.

[Jc95]

? what does that statement even mean lol?

[Tankbusta40]

Great more anti white stuff.

[Number_9]

Vs how many "anti" every other race game/stuff? I challenge you to name 2 other games that targeted modern white Christian extremists and I'll give you 10 games that targeted Islamic extremism.

[CitizenFour]

I'm not really sure why people care so much what colour anyone is as a villain or hero.. I really never give it any thought and would never be offended... It's a game with a story.. Not sure why race should matter.

[Bruh]

Should be a Mexican American Muslim who has a witty sense of humor and knows how to jump walls

[BuildTheWall]

I still laugh the retards that call themselves white/ black supremacists. They do not realize even after all the time humans have existed that there is no superior race meaning that all these supremacists have their heads so far up their asses that there is no hope for them. Hell if wasn't for all these supremacists I wouldn't have as many people to piss off.

[DivineAssault]

My issue is why cant games have anything else like this for all races as well? Im not even white yet see theres some sort of protection bubble being formed as if other ethnicity's cant handle it..

[BSD289]

This does nothing but prolong peoples prejudice.. Hope this is not actually what this game is going to be about, if it is then Ubisoft can keep their politically correct crap because i won't be buying it.

[SlashHabit]

In the first prey game you play as a native American murdering aliens. These aliens are obviously white people invading native American land.... yeah I can do it too. Why can't we just enjoy games for what they are instead of always pushing separate agendas?