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Microsoft E3 2017 predictions: Project Scorpio, Crackdown 3, Red Dead Redemption 2 and more

What we expect to see and hope to see at Microsoft's annual trade show press conference.

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Goldby2539d ago

except Read Dead wont be on Ms E3, Sony has marketing rights for it

XXanderXX2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

That's okay not the only game R* has that needs marketing

Think he just got way ahead of himself in the excitement that is Scorpio .....

Goldby2538d ago

i know, its just the author should have done some research about that. just doesn't look as credible if he is basing his articles off falsehoods

XXanderXX2538d ago

@MasterCornholio So R*is going to be making GTA 6 for PC seeing how its the bigger install base .

freshslicepizza2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Sony can go ahead and spend your money marketing this game, we all know now Scorpio will have the best version until they ever get around to making it in the PC.

Sony will no doubt take another page out of Microsoft previous playbook and get some exclusive content so they won't feel like they have the inferior version. All paid for by PS4 Plus memberships now being collected.

Goldby2538d ago

Theres the moldy we love to hate

it's been awhile

Goldby2538d ago

@Moldy

" All paid for by PS4 Plus memberships now being collected."

just image that for the last 3 generations that xbox gamers have been paying for xbox live, and all they have is a new system and no real exclusive picks in the coming future save 5 games, 4 which will be sequels.

Guess what moldy, just because one of the xbox versions will have 4k doesn't make the xbox version superior. it is still the same game that can be played on an xbox one or one s, so no 4k textures for those. are you nwo insulting your fellow xbox gamers who cant afford the scorpio by calling it the more inferior version to the playstation 4 version....

everyone,, gather round, this is what madness looks like, first you attack your enemy, then your ally leaving you the enemy

freshslicepizza2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Oh that's right Goldby, now power doesn't matter as we went through years when the PS4's better versions in Digital Foundry and all the other comparisons brought in a lot of heat here, now it doesn't matter. How predictable. It's not going to be just resolution either. Please conmtinue to just emphasize exclusives too as the PS4 install base keeps proving you wrong as they continue to buy multiplat games in droves adn make up the bulk of software sales. How odd for you to keep promoting the PS4 to everyone in Xbox topics.

"are you nwo insulting your fellow xbox gamers who cant afford the scorpio by calling it the more inferior version to the playstation 4 version...."

Oh, so anytime someone says the Pro version is better than the regular PS4 it's now insulting?

"no real exclusive picks in the coming future save 5 games, 4 which will be sequels."

Sure, keep selling your own agenda. You're right, only 5 games in the future will ever come to the Xbox family that can't be played on the PS4.

CaptainObvious8782538d ago

@Moldy

Just like you and your ilk were hawking on about how you could barely tell a difference between versions and graphics doesn't matter, but now it's all about graphics and the superior versions scorp will have.

Since graphics is so important to you I assume you've been buying your multiplats for your ps4 console this whole gen...

And do I need to go on about MS wasting millions in exclusive marketing deals All last gen and this gen?

Your hypocrisy is on full display, moldy.

freshslicepizza2538d ago

@CaptainObvious878
"Just like you and your ilk were hawking on about how you could barely tell a difference between versions and graphics doesn't matter, but now it's all about graphics and the superior versions scorp will have."

Please show me where I said there is no difference.

"Since graphics is so important to you I assume you've been buying your multiplats for your ps4 console this whole gen..."

PC when I can.

"And do I need to go on about MS wasting millions in exclusive marketing deals All last gen and this gen?"

Which ironically many Sony fans hated the practoce but now seem to be ok with it. Amazing how that works while they still act like Microsoft is so terrible.

Ceaser98573612538d ago

Moldy

Stop bitching about Scorpio this and that... Jeez! the console isn't out yet and look at you xbox fanboys.. Yea! Scorpio will be a beast congratulation... Will you be buying one?? Good for you if YES!!! All of a sudden now Xbox fanboys are Scropio gonna be the best and all... If you're thinking the difference gonna be HUUUUGGE! you gonna be disappointed for sure... and then as usual you gonna defend... That fandom wont stop..

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XanderZane2538d ago

Microsoft will probably take GTA VI instead.

MasterCornholio2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Depends on what Rockstars priorities are. Do they want to market the game to the largest install base or they want to show it off on the most powerful console.

With that said it's highly unlikely that they will reveal GTA6 at this E3.

DarkZane2538d ago

Sony has the bigger install base so they will also take GTA VI.

Not that it matters because GTA VI is so far away it won't even be shown or mentioned at this E3. Even by E3 2018, they still won't have announced the game at all.

XanderZane2538d ago

@MasterCornholio
Well we already know what Take-Two Interactive/Rockstar priorities are and it's to make money. If Microsoft shows them the money, the deal will be made. Microsoft does a great job at marketing games and getting tons of exposure.

@DarkZane
I didn't say this E3. If Microsoft can spend a billion on Minecraft, who knows what else they can spend a billion on in the gaming industry.

Goldby2538d ago

@Xander

Ms spent 2 billion on minecraft, but the difference is it wasn't because they wanted it on Xbox.
Minecraft was purchased through Microsoft corperation because they wanted it to be a part of their PC/Windows 10 plan, as well as bring out the educational version of Minecraft.

GTA on the other hand would have to be paid through the xbox Division if they wanted to get some sort of rights to it, afterall they cant exactly sell GTA6 as educational to schools

MasterCornholio2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Well if Microsoft always offers more than Sony then why did Sony get the marketing deal for Read Dead Redemption?

But the truth is we don't know the details of these marketing deals. Maybe Microsoft did offer more than Sony but not enough to make up for Sony's larger install base. It's not like the Xbox division has access to all of Microsofts money. They have a budget to follow and maybe marketing deals are not their priority right now.

"Microsoft does a great job at marketing games and getting tons of exposure. "

And Sony does a great job at that as well plus they have a massive install base as well.

_-EDMIX-_2538d ago

Yeah I don't really see that happening.

XanderZane2538d ago

@MasterCornholio
We don't know if Microsoft even made an offer. Maybe they didn't. Never said Sony doesn't do a good job marketing. Don't be so insecure.

@2pacalypsenow
It'll sell crazy on XB1/Scorpio as well. The first game did. I'm sure it will sell millions on both platforms which is what Take-Two/Rockstar wants.

Ceaser98573612538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

GTAV 6 wont happen until next gen.. Post Red Dead 2 its gonna be Bully 2 prolly... Since there are rumors regarding R* working on 2 games 1. Red dead 2 and 2, Bully 2

xander

"Microsoft does a great job at marketing games and getting tons of exposure. "
Sony Playstation does it better hence the install base and maximum third party games deal. .

" If Microsoft shows them the money, the deal will be made"
Well MS has money , Xbox department doesn't have the fund.. If what you say was true all the marketing deals like COD WW 2, Battlefield 2, RED DEAD 2, MASS EFFECT ANDRO.. would have been all with Xbox marketing these games...

Xbox did with ROTR , what happened?? Any one??

krypt19832538d ago

Your not going to see gta 6 until atleast 2020 it's rdr2 then bully 2 in 2019

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TheCommentator2538d ago

That'll be nice... let's see the game debut on a system that can't handle 4K.

Rockstar will be showing an inferior version of their product at their big reveal if they show it on the Pro first. Sony paying for this (or any) exclusivity is just as dumb as when MS did it last gen, TBH. Not to be a hypocrite, timed exclusivity is just as dumb as marketing exclusivity too. I only blame the publishers because they shouldn't just whore themselves out to whoever shows them more money.

2pacalypsenow2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

It will still sell a like crazy on PS4, 4k or not, and that's what Rockstar cares about

MasterCornholio2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Maybe their intention is to market the game to the largest install base? There are other reasons besides power that help seal a marketing deal.

Anyways if Sony create a special edition PS4 with RDR2 it might boost sales by a massive amount which would make the deal worth it.

@2p

"It will still sell a like crazy on PS4, "

And probably the most on PlayStation with most people playing the game on the base PS4 due to PS4 selling over 70 million consoles by the time the game releases. If the game gets delayed to early next year that number could be around 80 million.

SpaceRanger2538d ago

How is it "inferior" if it's actually playing at a decent resolution that's actually HD. Imagine if MS debuted their exclusives on a console that does sub-HD the majority of the time in their third and first party games?...oh wait, they've been doing that for the last few years and you haven't complained.

Another fanboy flipping their take on graphics. This hypocrisy is getting out of hand at this point.

Gazondaily2538d ago

^^LOL at the spin. The most superior version technically will most likely be the Scorpio #dealwithit

TheCommentator2538d ago

Really, Master C? Are Sony fans really that dumb that they can't understand what game system a game is for when they see a commercial without Sony paying for its' advertising? If that's true, it explains a lot of what goes on around N4G all the time.

Speaking of dumb Sony fans, hello Space Ranger! How is it inferior? Let me spell it out: Native 4K > Naive 4K.

You're the only hypocrite I see right now, Ranger, by admitting that a game playing at a decent resolution of 900p is inferior to that of a 1080p image, yet don't think Native 4K is better than checkerboarding. News flash... 900p is inferior to 1080p just like sub 4K is inferior to 4K. You are right about one thing though, I haven't complained about XB1 not having the best graphics because I play games, not graphics. The issue here is about R* not being able to show off their best work by showing the game on Scorpio because Sony wants to pay to market the game instead.

dilbig52538d ago

It's not like it's gonna look a whole different either way so why not go with the larger audience.

Rude-ro2538d ago

Remember the good ol days you thought the Xbox one was going to do 4k due to the cloud?
Glad to see you are jumping that ship for reality at least.

MasterCornholio2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

"Are Sony fans really that dumb that they can't understand what game system a game is for when they see a commercial without Sony paying for its' advertising?"

But you are if you honestly believe that.

I'm talking about the casuals that don't visit sites like N4G for their daily video game news.

You do know those people exist right?

There are reasons why exclusive marketing deals are important and one of them is to dupe the casuals into thinking that the game is exclusive to one platform.

Anyways insulting an entire fanbase doesn't make you look any more intelligent. Maybe you should ask for a clarification if you didn't understand something?

TheCommentator2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Master C, every commercial still shows what systems a game is available on. Sony pays to have their logo plastered on certain 3rd party games at the beginning of their commericals, so people who are dumb won't notice that it's also on XB1, PC, etc. But hey, at least you admit that Sony is catering to the unintelligent, which means you inadvertently admitted that Sony likes stupid gamers!

Historically, most things that are popular are the ones that cater to dumb people.

I've poked the hornet's nest enough for one day...

MasterCornholio2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

" But hey, at least you admit that Sony is catering to the unintelligent, which means you inadvertently admitted that Sony likes stupid gamers! "

Microsoft does as well. Just look at how they structure many of their Xbox One commercials. Ignorant casuals are the biggest market so it's normal for Microsoft and Sony to go after them.

"Sony likes stupid gamers! "

So does Microsoft because stupid gamers are the easiest ones to get income from.

Ceaser98573612538d ago

When Xbox got the ROTR TIMED exclusive deal the xbox fanboys were cool with it and now they can't digest the fact that most third party MARKETING deal is with Playstation... The amount of double standard from few xbox fanboys are amazing...

krypt19832538d ago

It's pathetic the conversation needs to shift back to games and gaming choose the platform you want to play the games on and leave it at that, then us as gamers should hold devs/pubs responsible

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mocaak2538d ago

Ironically, the same guy predicted that it will be at Sony's conference in his yesterday's article.

meka26112538d ago

Big surprise on that one, sony always spends shit tons of money on marketing; it's just a dumb waste of money for a multiplatform title. Not sure if RDR2 will be a system seller, but either way when someone who doesn't have a console comes to a game store and says I want RDR2 the clerk will say, we have it for ps4 and xbox one and the person can chose.

TheCommentator2538d ago

That's why MS stopped doing it last gen.

Rude-ro2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

@thecomm
Tomb raider
Dead rising
Battlefield hardline
Assasins creed
Titanfall
Etc etc etc... all marketing deals
When did they stop?
They got outplayed with their own game from last gen.

Ceaser98573612538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

thecommentator

"That's why MS stopped doing it last gen."

LMAO!!! Here is a xbox fanboy who will now lie and spread false news just to prove his point..

Rude-ro
well done for pointing out..

meka2611

"Big surprise on that one, sony always spends shit tons of money on marketing; it's just a dumb waste of money for a multiplatform title."
Xbox does that too and wasted alot of money with ROTR Timed Exclusive deal...

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Ceaser98573612538d ago

R* usually dont do E3 but if it happens then its gonna be on Sony Stage.. GTAV remastered with bundle was shown on Sony's e3 conf. and Since RDR2 marketing rights is with Sony IF R* Decides to surprise us gamers it will be on Sony's e3 conf..

krypt19832538d ago

Sony don't have marketing rights they have a deal to get some multiplayer content first that's it, but i still don't think you see it on microsofts floor. Im a xbox guy and im not expecting much at e3 this yr from microsoft and im fine with that this is only Phil's 3rd year as head of xbox it takes 3-5 years to make a good game. Give me scropio with the best looking/performing games and ill be fine this year without big name exclusives with destiny2 rdr2 friday 13th i won't be playing much besides that anyway.

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slavish02538d ago

Now fan girls argue for THIRD PART MARKETING. .lmao these games r available everywhere 🤣

Goldby2538d ago

and yes while the games are available everywhere, The fact that Sony gets the commercials and all marketing for RDR2 can sway or convince people to buy it on the ps4. and some people out there will believe its only available on ps4.

after all there are gamers out there that honestly believe that because Ms has a 4k machine that all of a sudden they will be "winning" the console war this gen. people can be easily swayed specially when it comes to marketing.

goatking2538d ago

Sea of thieves, crackdown 3, forza 7, probably some new stuff, maybe a short teaser for halo 6, and obviously the scorpio reveal.

Tussin1872538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

I just know that we better see Crackdown running on an X1 and not the Scorpio. I mean they can show what it looks like on Scorpio but I want to see this game running on X1 since the cloud was hyped up so much.

I know it will look great on Scorpio but in my eyes it wouldn't be as convincing if they just showed it on Scorpio. The system is 5 times the power of X1 so they could say it's the cloud but we really wouldn't know.

Show it on X1 and then show us the difference. I hoping this game lives​ up to all the cloud talk. I have a feeling it will but now days I'm always at bit skeptical on everything. Can't wait for MS and Sony to blow us away. Hurry up June!!!

No disagree from me.

--bienio--2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

Just fu@£& announce RDR2 on Pc R*!!!

shiva12538d ago

Would you take it if its play anywhere?

Goldby2538d ago

if its a play anywhere multiplatform game, its coming to pc which means yes, i would buy it on steam, but not win 10.

i blow my nose in Ms general direction when it comes to win 10

rando 2538d ago

lets see how many pro-Sony comments bashing Xbox get a ton of up-votes on this article. lol smh

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Dbrand Faces Social Media Backlash and Offers $10K Apology

Dbrand, a renowned producer of skins for mobile devices and console faceplates, found itself in hot water recently due to a controversial incident on social media. The company, known for its "witty banter" with customers, took it too far this time, drawing criticism from the gaming community.

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MetroidFREAK215m ago

I really hate when companies try to be edgy... like it's not funny, never has been funny and never will be

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Sony Launches BAFTA Game Awards 2024 PlayStation Store Section for Nominees

Sony has launched a BAFTA Game Awards 2024 section on the PlayStation Store that lists the different games nominated this year.

Bathyj12h ago

They did.
It's just empty.

I kid, I kid. 🙂

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref2d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde2d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19722d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 23h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 15h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref2d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan2d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref2d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde2d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19722d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 21h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 23h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 15h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 13h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 23h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts1d 1h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 9h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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