Brandon plays plenty of Breath of the Wild and has different thoughts about open-world games
VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "With Tears of the Kingdom being so recent and Nintendo’s next system likely coming soon, it’s safe to say we won’t be looking at another big Zelda launch title this around and it’ll likely be years before any ruminations of the next game start to surface, but in the meantime we can always speculate. Breath of the Wild changed things for the series by multiplying its popularity manyfold, so it would seem only logical that the franchise will continue along the path Breath of the Wild started, however a look at the series’ history shows it might not be as simple as that. So, let’s take a look at what the future of this legendary series might have in store for us, blending in equal parts qualified theorizing and wishful thinking."
Shaz from GL writes: “Tears of the Kingdom retreads many of the same waters as Breath of the wild, taking away much of its magic and outlining its many frustrating elements”
Wow, I had no idea creations start disappearing like that. I haven't played yet and the building of machines seemed pretty awesome.. but if they get destroyed after a short period of time, what's the point? I would want to keep my favorite creations across the entirety of my adventure. :\
I sure hope they rework this on the next console after Switch. I'm actually surprised this didn't lower some of the 10/10 scores.
the rabid nintendo fans would probably have sent death threats if it got lowered
You can save your creations to have them automatically rebuilt, as long as you have the resources for it
I mean, I've always hated weapon deterioration and that's normal for the game, so those creations have a limited lifespan built in. As far as creations in the world, I think it's a bit much to expect those to last. That's a lot for the game to remember and track let alone with how many things can and are created.
Too much to expect for a Switch, sure. But it would be nice to retain at least 10 creations longterm if they ever remaster this for the next console. Like a gta garage almost. Clear out the ones you don't want anymore. I'd like an airship that I can continuously fly around the world. Be able to take several out at once. (I can imagine leaving them in strategic spots, set like a cross-country rally. People streaming their fastest times.)
I really think I'll just wait for a next gen remaster. I'm still playing Breath of the Wild and enjoying it. I've read that it can be hard to go back to after Tears bc of the re-used world, so I'd like to continue getting the most out of Breath of the Wild.
As for the quickly degrading weapons, I always hated that too. Wish they lasted longer, or you could cast a spell to retain at least 3 or so of your favorites. it is what it is though, and I'm not going to stop playing just bc of that. I really like the atmosphere of the game.
**Edit - For reference, you can retain many, many creations on Lego Worlds even on a Switch, albeit not vehicles. Also the rest of the game isn't nearly as complex as the Zelda games, the draw distance is horrendous and over all a buggy mess. Still, I'm confident that a next gen Tears of the Kingdom remaster could handle a garage worth of creations.
Not to mention it wouldn’t necessarily be a good thing. A lot of crafts are used for moments in gameplay, why should they be littering the world and disrupting the scenery? Sometimes the devs place vehicles or parts as a hint or gameplay option, but if those vehicles are coexisting along random vehicles that would be impossible to distinguish. The system the devs chose (build whatever with free local resources or craft anything with materials) makes the most sense and gives the least cluttered experience.
Sure I agree on that point, but what about end game? I'd like for it open up to full freedom after you've finished everything. Would give incentive to keep playing.
Switch doesn't have the option to cut its FPS in half like the excuse Bethesda is pushing for Starfield's 30fps. Vanishing items or 15fps Zelda.
Switch just doesn't have the memory to handle that many persistent items in the world. That was actually the reason for the Blood Moons as well. It allows the game world to reset and free up memory before it becomes a problem.
The blood moon is about keeping enemies in the world. Otherwise there would be no threats if you’ve killed all the enemies and they never returned.
Framerate would have to do with how fast the GPU could draw everything. This issue has to do with not being able to fit everything in RAM, so even if the game ran at 5fps, it wouldn't free up the RAM needed to fit more items. The same textures, assets, sound, etc have to go into RAM regardless of how fast the GPU is drawing frames.
Tldr; author is annoyed they can't make a permanent sandwich mountain in ToTK.
Breath of the Wild was groundbreaking, and Tears of the Kingdom a fantastic follow-up, but there’s only so long the novelty of open worlds can last before fatigue sets in.
Yea iv put in 65 hours so far in totk and it's been fantastic, but it's really botw 2.0 which there is absolutely nothing wrong with, gamers shouldnt expect revolutions directly after a revolutionary game.
I usually say 3 games in a series and then after that it's time to switch it in a big way as opposed to re iterating and small improvements.
I say that to say I really dont know where zelda goes from here, can it even go back to a more linear type of game and if not do they stick with this exact style cause if they do I can defs see fatigue setting in for me at that point.
Ninty due to smashing it with botw and totk have put themselves in a tough spot, how do you improve it and keep it fresh moving forward.
Well I guess they got atleast 6 years to figure it all out
I agree for the most part. Nintendo themselves have said this is the model for future Zelda titles. And considering it’s the best selling entry in the series I don’t see them changing much.
I hope we get some offshoots still though. Like we used to with spirit tracks or oracle of ages/seasons. Or remakes. I’ve still never played twilight princess so a switch port or remake would be more than welcome. I’d love to replay wind waker. A remake of Majoras Mask would be very welcome. Or a port of link between worlds, one of my favorite modern zelda games.
There’s plenty of games to port or remake that a lot of people haven’t played. Maybe do a Tears style open world game, then 1 or 2 offshoot titles between them. Keep things interesting.
Amazing game. 10/10.
And it's possible to make a third one with even better things with this blueprint. And the story... The story is amazing. Great job Nintendo 🙌🏻
The issue is it’s become like a Toybox first and foremost with actual Zelda core features feeling like an after thought. It’s starting to feel like a spin off game
Played over 30 hours now but starting to get tired of the grind. To fight the stronger enemies you need hearts and stamina which means completing lots of shrines which can be repetitive.
Well written yet i disagree you can play horizon gears witcher etc and caught in the moment of the story that climbing every mountain not necessary something has to be sacrificed while you were climbing how captivating was the story case closed
I played Zelda for 8 hours on the wii u the day of release, I then played Horizon for a few weeks until I beat it....
Zelda is fun, but it doesn't make other games feel unworthy of playing.
I feel people are over praising this game to a point of ridiculousness, and this is from a sincere Zelda fan.
It's constant comparisons to other games is actually quite tiring.
I feel the physics and art style are the only real things this game excels at. I'm 60 hrs in and I've beaten 3 divine beasts and I must say while the physics are on a whole new level its honestly the weakest Zelda game I've played period.....and I really thought skyward sword was weak.
Journalists keep comparing it the the witch, horizon and skyrim to name a few but everyone's so caught up in the physics that I feel as a Zelda fan the story is abhorrently fragmented and scarce while the boss fights are copy and paste of the same boss over and over with a different weapon each time, you can like 4 shot these guys with attack food. The dungeons can't even be called dungeons (more like glorified shrines and this part hurt me when I beat my first one) and there's only four of them. I haven't fought Ganon yet but even I'm hearing that that portion of the game is the weakest yet.
I got all caught up in the hype and the reviews made it sounds like the greatest game ever yet voice acting, dungeons, story, bosses, combat (piss easy except lynels) dumb ai and backseat sound track are all weak.
The game is fun but after what I've come to expect from a Zelda game its the weakest yet.
I disagree, it's not the greatest open word game, it's barley anything to do. The one main thing I do love about BOTW is that you can climb almost anything. Other than that it's lacking in content or things to do in general.
GTA is the best open world game by far. It is the jack of all trades, master of nearly all. No it doesnt have the best story, but in terms of what an open world game is supposed to be in essence: a simulation, GTA is in it's own class with the amount of detail and realism it's world has, as well as it's variety of gameplay activities.