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Star Wars Battlefront 2 2017 Campaign to Be Canon, Protagonist Revealed

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FallenAngel19842938d ago

Wow a canon Star Wars videogame reminds me how The Force Unleashed was hyped as being canon

T3mpr1x2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

Well, LucasFilm reset canon back in 2014, but then they said "all aspects of Star Wars storytelling moving forward will be connected." So hopefully this means it won't be declared non-canon sometime in the near future. Given where it's placed in the timeline, I think it's here for good.

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REDGUM2937d ago

please excuse me but what is CANON?

CorndogBurglar2937d ago

It means its an official part of the Star Wars timeline and stories.

Sevir2937d ago

Lol... Canon means existing within an IPs main story and universe.

In this case, This story is an official star Wars story that takes place in its timelines

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CorndogBurglar2937d ago

Force Unleashed WAS canon. But as Temprix pointed out all of the Star Wars canon was reset when Disney bought Star Wars and decided tonmake episode 7. They had to reset it all because there were so many novels and extra content that took place after Return of the Jedi that they wouldn't be able to male the movie they wanted, and they were afraid to contradict anything that already existed.

They kept almost everything pre-A New Hope though because that would have had little to no affect on something that took place after RotJ. Having said that, important things and characters from before ANH still got removed, like Starkiller and Force Unleashed.

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-Foxtrot2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

Look I'm not being sexist...I'm not...hear me out please

Force Awakens - Rey

Rogue One - Jinn

Battlefront II Story Mode - Iden

What's with this push of female characters in Star Wars...seems a little "forced"

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago

Because you know the story writers didn't want that or?

Darkwatchman2938d ago

Oh no. A writer can't genuinely have a female protagonist without it being forced. It MUST be to please the politically correct world we live in. No writer would EVER think of female protagonists for their works. NEVER.

-Foxtrot2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

I'm just saying you have three BRAND NEW Star War related things when it returned with The Force Awakens and all of them push female characters.

You saw how much of a know it all and "I can do everything" Rey was in Force Awakens

You know they could have went with Kyle Katarn who originally stole the death star plans in the old novels

You know they could have done anything for Battlefront, god another species even but all 3 were female...space that shit out it's all I'm saying

Stop being ass like with your replies, you're always like this when someone has a different opinion to you it's annoying. Heard of manners? Probably not.

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

@Fox- but you have no proof that the writers didn't want this in the first place. Unless you know 100% they never wanted this, you only have an assumption. A sexist one by the way. You are assuming that the only way they would have a female protagonist would be if they where FORCED to...you literally didn't respect that the writers might have intended that .That is exactly as bad as SJW assuming writers FORCED male roles in games JUST because with literally zero proof.

I mean...you bringing this up actually only proves that such a concept by users has to exist. Example.

"Look I'm not being sexist...I'm not...hear me out please Fox....

Call Of Duty 4 Male character

Call Of Duty MW2 Male character

Call Of Duty MW3 Male character

Call Of Duty Black Ops Male character

What's with this push of male characters in Call Of Duty...seems a little "forced"

-Foxtrot2938d ago

LOL EDIMIX

Please man...I beg of you. Don't do one of your paragraphs full of dribble where you TRY your hardest to make a point with really bad comparisons. It's like you want to go against me for the sake of it but can't think of much to say

I mean dude...you are comparing Call of Duty, a generic BRO shooter to bloody STAR WARS

Please tell me you can see how silly that was...

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago

@Fox- ignoring the point and personal attacks isn't going to help your point.

The comparison is not about the series, its about claiming a writer is forcing a demographic with zero proof.

Unless you know what they intended and they admitted they where forced to add a demographic against what they originally had, you have nothing but assumption.

Smh, why do you love dodging statements? it seems like you love trying to go OT as soon as someone calls you out.

What? Too much logic? Why frantically change the subject when someone is using your logic?

Call us when you have that Star Wars writer's original script so we can compare, ok bro =)

The 10th Rider2938d ago

@_-EDMIX-_,

"ignoring the point and personal attacks isn't going to help your point. "

Ironic, since that's what you do half the time.

Foxtrot is right that your example is poor. You wouldn't use Cooking Mama as an example of forced females in games. In both Cooking Mama and Call of Duty, it's about target audience.

Disney has a background of pushing diversity. Since they bought Marvel comics Thor's been a woman, Spiderman's been black/hispanic, Captain Marvel's been a Muslim, Iron Man has been a black teenage girl . . . I'm sure there's plenty more people could bring up. Do you think it's coincidence that now Star Wars is ticking every diversity box it can?

gangsta_red2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

@edmix

http://www.newsbusters.org/...

**It’s too late for Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, whose writer contentiously tweeted in the wake of Donald Trump’s election, “Please note that the Empire is a white supremacist (human) organization.” Original story creator Gary Whitta then responded to the tweet, “Opposed by a multicultural group led by brave women,” according to an article on the feminist news site The Mary Sue. Weitz and Whitta deleted their tweets after outrage from the Twittersphere.**

It does seem forced and from that deleted tweet forced only for political reasons. Its more than apparent that every media outlet is portraying a female heroin as the lead only because it's popular. That the narrative for the media is pushing this femenisim type agenda. It has become a trend we have been seeing lately and only because it is popular and marketable.

I mean seriously, is it really that hard to see this is obvious? That having female leads is now the rage and being copied by almost everyone?

And for real...COD?

Lord_Sloth2937d ago

Look, I'm normally the 1st to roll my eyes at Trot's posts but I think he has a point here. It feels more like they're intentionally making female leads. I'm not gonna say that's a bad thing, but it isn't really a coincidence and so long as they're well written I don't mind, but if they're intending to just push Girl Power then it's gonna get really old really fast.

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Liqu1d2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

If they were male would the stories be any different? I've only seen Force Awakens and I didn't feel Rey was forced.

-Foxtrot2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

Rey kind of was

She literally could do everything. She was like the "Han Solo" like character who would fix anything and could fly the Falcon. She then turned out to be a Jedi...a powerful Jedi who managed to hold her own more then Luke without any training.

It made Finn pointless as he was like dithering around for most of the film, it felt he was there because "look everyone we have a black guy...we're diverse".

Poe could have escaped by himself
Crashed on the planet
Found Rey
He would have been the Han Solo like character who could pilot the Falcon
Rey would have been the Jedi
Things would have been spaced out a little
Introduce Finn in Episode VIII

Would have felt more natural at the end of the day.

Rogue One's cast was VERY diverse and it was brillant as it felt pretty natural. It's why Rogue One blows Force Awakens out the water for me.

gamingisnotacrime2938d ago

Not forced, just sucked big time

gangsta_red2938d ago

Force Awakens was a cool movie but to be honest Rey is a female retelling of Luke Skywalker from the original star wars films.

So i think one of the problems and what Fox is saying is it isnt different except for the sake of having a women be in the lead position instead of a male.

ShadowWolf7122938d ago

...dude did you seriously just try to say she held her own better than Luke because she managed to overpower a severely weakened Kylo Ren who was not only pouring blood out of a gaping wound in his side, but then had an arm sliced by Finn? And she's not a Jedi. to be a Jedi requires training, dedication, swearing an oath. She's Force sensitive. That's it. And what she can do is no different than what Anakin and Luke could do, and Anakin could do it at half their ages. Are they Gary Stu's?

And calling Finn pointless... jeebus man. No, Poe couldn't have escaped on his own. That'd be Gary Stu-ing HIM. You're literally saying this, opbjecting to this, claiming this solely on the basis that he's Black. You can try to spin it however you want, you're LITERALLY taking umbrage with this and finding his presence problematic because he's black and you think you can use it to reinforce a baseless claim.

Good god, you're a 12 year old suburban kid, aren't you?

ChristopherJack2938d ago

I felt she was but she was tolerable by the end of the movie.

rainslacker2937d ago (Edited 2937d ago )

@Fox

While I don't want to get in on the bigger conversation you are having, when you look at Rey, and compare her to Luke, it's worth noting that Luke was a fix-it kind of kid. He was also capable of piloting ships. Remember he repaired the droids, and ships at his uncles farm, and he was in the raid against the first death star. While he never had to face a much more skilled Jedi in the first movie, it was implied that he learned quickly.

So, in all those points, I'd say they were making Rey to be much like Luke. but I do agree with much of the rest of your points. Maybe not that Finn wasn't needed, because he has his own narrative track with Rey....such as it is.

Whether Rey was "forced" or not I can't say. But I think the story overall should be looked at more that the story is kind of weak overall. Too much going on, and for the most part, Rey is really the only character that is needed....female or otherwise...because she's about the only one that the story focuses on so far. The other characters are there to support her, not to build a bigger star wars universe.

Going by many of your points, we can say that Han Solo is also forced. He wasn't necessary for the plot to come together. but he had his place in the narrative.

I personally liked Rey overall. I thought the movie itself was fun, but kind of weak as a whole. What I'm not feeling so far is Ren, but hoping they make that more interesting going forward, and that he won't end up being the main antagonist for the series. He just doesn't have the presence of Darth Vader.

Anyhow, if Rey had been male, and the story had been essentially the same, and a comparable male actor took her place, I'd probably like the character just the same. Almost nothing about her character, or interactions with others, had much to do with her gender, except for some comic relief that Finn offered up a couple of times.

The 10th Rider2937d ago

@rainslacker,

Being a good pilot was about Luke's only claim to fame in the first movie. Outside of that he was really a whiny brat. I think people remember the original trilogy with a skewed view. George Lucas said it best when he said that Star Wars was a soap opera in space. Luke is a whiny brat, Han Solo is a shady scoundrel, and Princess Leia is a stuck up princess. They all end up on the same adventure, saving the galaxy and eventually and becoming friends. It's almost like the Breakfast Club in space. Even the prequel trilogy has a lot of soap opera stuff going on, with the forbidden romance and things like that. The influence from mythology is also pretty evident with all the crazy familial stuff (Luke and Leia being children of Darth Vader, Luke kissing his sister), all of that is stuff that wouldn't be out of place in Greek mythology. The Disney era of movies are pretty much just actions movies.

Also, I think it's one of Disney's faults in general that they'll use a character for whatever they need them for at that time. If you look at Tony Stark's story throughout the Iron Man movies his character changes to fit whatever they need him for in the plot. That wasn't true of the characters in the original Star Wars trilogy, but it's pretty evident in Rey.

I agree with the rest of your post for the most part. I just don't think Luke is nearly as much of a "do-it-all" character as Rey is.

rainslacker2937d ago

@10th

I'm not going to dispute that the new ones are basically action flicks. They're good for what they are, but the story itself of the new ones is not really all that intriguing. However, speaking of nostalgia, I never considered the originals to be great narrative either. Lucas is great at making a world, and expressing that world, but he isn't that great at characters, or even story.

Anyhow, I found that they tried to make Rey to be like Luke, although I will concede that she was nowhere near as whiney. Given that they tried to make the whole movie similar to the first, it's really not that much of a stretch.

Anyhow, Luke wasn't as good a mechanic as Rey, but he certainly was handy.

I'm not sure what you mean that they made Rey to fit into whatever they needed at the time. Are you saying that Disney needed her to be female? That may be so, but can't see how the overall narrative is affected by her gender either way. If it's more about her character in general, then that's pretty typical story telling. Particularly for an action flick, where complex narrative with characters that don't fit into the story are not really appropriate, because people don't like to think too much.

Anyhow, as far as the comparison between Luke and Rey, I didn't mean to say that Luke was as good at the things he did, because he wasn't. Except maybe being a pilot. But it's hard to say how that would be represented today given that action take precedence, and the tools available to Lucas in the 70's aren't what they are today, and it's obvious that the cool factor for what is fun and exciting has changed a lot since then. Kind of like in the prequels where the 8 year old annakin could pilot anything with great skill....whether a pod racer or a space fighter....but lets not get into the faults that were in the prequels.:)

The 10th Rider2936d ago (Edited 2936d ago )

@rainslacker,

If you recognize the flaws of the originals, you can probably see what I'm talking about when I mention that people look at it with their nostalgia glasses and don't remember what the original movies were actually like. It's like how people despise Episode 1 so much, but it's far close to the original trilogy than any other of the prequels. The only reason Episode 3 is liked so much is because it's more of an action movie, which is not what the original films were.

As for Rey, I mean like if they need Rey to be a pilot, suddenly she can pilot a ship. It's a trend I've noticed in a lot of Disney movies. When they need a character to act a certain way or have a certain skillset to further the plot, they mold the character to fit the plot. In most good storytelling the plot is built around the characters and the plot moves forwards based on how the characters would behave. An example of an action movie that pulls of good story-telling successfully is Mad Max Fury Road. However in many Disney movies it's the opposite. It's like they come up with where they want the plot to go and then say "Well, I guess we'll have Iron Man do this or that". Very little thought seems to be given to how it affects the character's development or backstory. A good example, though across a couple movies, is how the metal in Tony Stark's chest is killing him in iron Man 2 and he falls into despair because of it, but in Iron Man 3 we find out he "does what he should have done a long time ago" and gets it removed, which makes the plot of Iron Man 2 a complete joke. The actions and skillsets of characters change to fit the plot, rather than the plot changing to fit the characters.

Disney's hardly the only company that does it, but it's something I've noticed consistently in Disney movies since many of them are so cookie cutter.

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annoyedgamer2938d ago

You're not just a sexist, you're also a racist. And since the lady is probably a lesbian, you are also a homophobe.

JoeDG2938d ago

Or a transsexual.. shitty pc world

Summons752938d ago

Right forgot stories are only allowed, macho men. What are women doing outside of the kitchen...what is it 1742? Rey - was awesome, Jyn - was amazing, so what is wrong with a female lead? Oh, nothing outside of sexist crying.

The 10th Rider2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

I don't get why people are getting up in arms that you pointed out. It's pretty obvious Disney pushes diverse characters in the properties they own. Look at what's happened to Marvel Comics in since Disney bought them. Not that there's any problem with female characters, but every time Disney pulls another diversity character it gets a bit of an eyeroll from me.

The thing I found dumb in the Force Awakens and Rogue One is that they brought in new female protagonists that were kind of bland, but Leia (who was already a great character) wasn't nearly as strong of a character as she was in the original trilogy.

ABeastNamedTariq2938d ago

Just stop. You're the only one trying to make something out of this. You sound like you're afraid of cooties.

-Foxtrot2938d ago

And you're making this into an immature thing with your comment...

Anzil2938d ago

It's a new fad. Horizon and Neir are female. The biggest problem I have is when they power these people to have so much unrealistic power it's crazy. Rey was pretty much a God in the TFA and even if the relate it right back to Luke(the chosen one). Oh 20 years later we're supposed to have an even more powerful Jedi that I could beat to death just by staring at her. Yet she messes up anyone in her path. It's all make believe but you are supposed to make me believe.

Sunny_D2938d ago

Oh so it's a fad? So once the fad dies, you'll feel comfortable to only have male characters in your videogames then?

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago

"It's a new fad."

How do you know? "Horizon and Neir are female" Soooo how do you know they are just that based on a "fad" and not by the desire of their artist?

2B is a robot by the way, it just looks like a female...

ninsigma2938d ago

Anakin was the chosen one not Luke.

EverydayJoe2937d ago (Edited 2937d ago )

Do you guys know that female infantry and other combat jobs exist in the Mighty U.S. armed services and also many other nations of the world now? Why not have strong female leads in combat related movies & video games? If woman can be a 11Bravo in the Army, it isn't a fad. Duderbros better get over it. Female protagonist in the next C.O.D certainly isn't off the table now. Not a fad its new reality.

rainslacker2937d ago

Is the fad poor story telling techniques with deus ex plot twists which go for the cool factor rather than make a character more interesting?

That has nothing to do with their gender. It's seen in games with male characters as well. It's a result of poor story telling, not making a main character one gender or the other.

Lets face it, the main character who they make you feel empathy for by making them appear weak or oppressed or whatever, suddenly being powerful and skillful or knowledgeable with the most cursory of transitions or exposition between their prior self is nowhere near new. I recall Lucas did it with the prequels as well, and that was with a male main character.

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Sunny_D2938d ago

So when will it be considered not "forced" to you? Who cares? No matter how many times they do it, it will never be considered normal to you.

-Foxtrot2938d ago

When it's not done to prove a point

Rogue One felt less forced to me...HOWEVER I loved Kyle Katarn and would have liked to see his story be made canon.

Don't know who he is...please look it up. It's interesting.

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago

@Fox- still waiting on that proof that it was forced.

-Foxtrot2938d ago

The proof is there EDMIX, that's how it felt

I explained this above about how the film could have been made more natural if they took their token black guy out of the first film and kept him for the second.

It feels like you ignore what people tell you because you still want to "fight the good fight" whatever that is. I could say the sky is blue and you'd want to write down a 5 paragraph comment about how I'm wrong.

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

@Fox- "The proof is there"

Where?

Got a link to the writer saying it was forced or nah?

Just like a SJW to say something is being forced, yet have zero proof, how shocking...

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Boobgrabber2938d ago

I would say that they are trying new routes, but also I think it has to do with Disney owning rights to Star Wars. Disney is probably trying to do do something similar to their animated movies which use the princesses.

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Lennoxb632938d ago

I guess because all the others had male leads. Maybe they want to switch it up a bit.

Btw. Force Awakens had both a male and a female for the main characters.

-Foxtrot2938d ago

Not really

Rey is the main one which is marketed

Look at the new trailer and poster for The Last Jedi.

gangsta_red2938d ago

I mean is fox wrong for pointing out the obvious focus of women being all of a sudden the main characters in most hollywood films and now video games?

-Foxtrot2938d ago

Ghostbusters
Oceans 8
Van Helsing
Rumoured Blade (his daughter)
Rumoured Men in Black with females
Magnum P.I with his daughter

I could go on...it's becoming a new trend for marketing or to make a statement.

coolbeans2938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

In MOST film & games? That's incorrect.

In MOST Star-Wars oriented media, like films and games? Sure, that seems to be the case currently. It's the insinuations + double standards that kind of bother some people responding. For one, none of us have knowledge of what's going on in BF II's campaign development at Motive. Who's to say whether it's "forced" by corporate or the team was simply inspired to make that their female protag. And if you do believe it's forced, does that not also mean those meanie "SJW's" kinda had a point about the lack of female protags in the recent past? I mean, developers like DONTNOD were lucky to get one big-name publisher for both of their female protag-lead games (both of which were released this decade).

Second, it's rather funny to see some people change their tune about this too. The very notion of bringing up few female protags previously would bring the fangs out in a lot of people who'd reflexively defend creative freedom at the drop of the hat and tell those pesky whiners to shut up and just not buy the game. Now the shoe's on the other foot and creative freedom is fine and dandy...unless these artists are being totally forced into it. Of course, THEY have a right to complain too many female protags.

NOTE: I'm not arguing that fox SPECIFICALLY fits this description (as I really don't recall atm). Just trying to make you consider this in a broader context. In the end, let's just hope the best from the campaign and it's a game worthy of carrying the "Battlefront II" name.

_-EDMIX-_2938d ago

@Gang- Sudden? Not really.

Still don't have proof that its forced sooo who cares? Unless you know the writer, its just an assumption with ZERO PROOF.

@Fox- unless you know it was forced, who cares? Sounds like salt to me, something you seem to feast on a bit too much (bad for your health bud)

@Coolbeans- "Who's to say whether it's "forced" by corporate or the team was simply inspired to make that their female protag. And if you do believe it's forced, does that not also mean those meanie "SJW's" kinda had a point about the lack of female protags in the recent past?"

This 100%.

Folks got mad at SJW for assuming games that had male characters where doing so based on being FORCED even with zero proof what so ever....this is wrong.

But its ALSO WRONG for someone to do the same thing for female characters.

" The very notion of bringing up few female protags previously would bring the fangs out in a lot of people who'd reflexively defend creative freedom at the drop of the hat and tell those pesky whiners to shut up and just not buy the game. Now the shoe's on the other foot and creative freedom is fine and dandy...unless these artists are being totally forced into it. Of course, THEY have a right to complain too many female protags. "

Yes to this too.

If the writer and artist wanted this, I have no issue. I would otherwise have an issue if a character was forced REGARDLESS of gender on a game.

But unless someone as REAL proof of this, its an assumption by those who are unsurprisingly insecure.

I find it ironic that those who were against SJW attacking gaming, are now attacking gaming with list of games with females as um "proof" LMFAO!

How is that different then SJW saying

Call Of Duty
Metal Gear Solid
Devil May Cry
Battlefield
Evil Within
Shadow Of Morder
Red Dead
GTA

etc

I find it funny that Fox doesn't realize his own post is basically a whining SJW post against women, just the same as their post where against men.

An assumption with ZERO PROOF that the writer was forced this. Sounds like hate to me folks, they are not even taking the creators into context, just spewing hate.

SJW are the worst I tell ya =)

gangsta_red2938d ago

@edmix

"Sudden? Not really."

Yes really.

"Still don't have proof that its forced sooo who cares?"

Sooooo, why are you here? You are the only one asking for proof and constantly replying too. Pretty involved for person that doesnt care. Where is your proof that it wasnt forced by the way?

Just wildly asking for proof doesn't necessarily prove your point, especially when in all your long winded, blown out paragraphs, you made zero.

@coolbeans

I have no problem about women being a lead but it is more than obvious that with current hollywood and video games there is an apparent pushing of women in the lead role only for popularity or fanboy sake. I dont follow SJW or anti SJW articles or ideas so my opinions are not influenced by them only from what I have seen as current trends today.

coolbeans2937d ago

@gangsta_red

Sure there's been a bigger push (especially with certain Hollywood reboots). I'm just bothered by the assumptions that carries with it across all media, including Star Wars. Already a newer comment above argues how Kathleen Kennedy's "rad-fem" ideology is simply infiltrating the good 'ole Star Wars we know and love. I mean...where's the proof she pushed that decision for a game like BF II now? And if such rad-fem ideas are just everywhere in Star Wars, how do you account for the Rebels TV series, plethora of comic books w/ male leads, etc.? It's just an uncomfortable quagmire to step into.

rainslacker2937d ago

More is not most. While there are certainly more mainstream female leads, I have to say that its still not most. At least not in games. Certainly for more recent star wars movies. And I don't pay enough attention to most movies to really keep track.

I don't think it's wrong for fox to bring it up. I just question his assertions that it's forced for political correctness reasons.

I may be though, and overall, it's worth exploring.

But at the same time, some concession has to be made that not all female leads exist due to being "forced", and sometimes it's just because that's what the creators want.

It might help to really define what constitutes as forced though, because I've noticed some people have certain criteria for what is forced, and for some, it's as simple as "there's a female, it's forced for PC reasons".

I feel fox made some valid points though, but not completely on board with the characters being there for PC reasons.

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uth112938d ago

Here is the dumb part--. A few years back, Disney had a problem where they had a huge appeal to girls but little appeal to boys.

So they bought Marvel and Star Wars to help fix that imbalance.

But now if they make ALL of the main protagonists girls, there's a risk it won't be as appealing for the younger generation of boys as it did for the older generations. Boys want role models too.

Yes the original Star Wars trilogy had too few women. I just want to see balance. Seems they are going too far in the other direction.

The 10th Rider2938d ago

The original trilogy was light on women, but I though Leia was a fantastic character. She's better written and has more character than any of the female characters in Star Wars since Disney bought the out. Sad too, considering she was bland and stereotypical in the Force Awakens.

rainslacker2937d ago (Edited 2937d ago )

To appeal to boys, all you need is a light saber and space battles. Throw in a cool fighter pilot or two, hopefully don't turn them away with a silly antagonist who isn't manly at all, and you capture both segments.:)

Rogue one spoiler

Lets face it, with Rogue one, the coolest part of the movie was at the end, where darth vader boarded the star cruiser. The main character being male wouldn't have made it more interesting.

Artemidorus2938d ago

SJW have made it clear we need diversity in society so they feel accpeted.Truth is they are the biggest hypocritical people known.

I got no problem with the story but fed up of polical correctness interfering with video games, especially since it's a great way to enjoy different ideas.

Genuine-User2938d ago

Says I'm not a sexist and then goes on to write a sexist comment.

Pathetic.

Allsystemgamer2938d ago

Thanks for showing everyone you don't know what sexism is.

Paytaa2938d ago

How many Star Wars games were with dude protagonists before?

ShadowWolf7122938d ago

Mhm, and...

Han Solo gets a movie.
Poe Dameron has an ongoing comic.
Luke Skywalker is the center of the new movie.
Luke is also the lead of the main Star Wars comic.
Finn is also getting an increased presence.
Darth Maul and Darth Vader are both on their second canon comic series.

But yeah, let's pretend we're only getting female protagonists.

Yokan2938d ago

FINALLLY!!!!
I agree with you on something!
Im no sexist whatsoever, but for crying out loud whats with the diversity for the sake of diversity!!!!

And of course the villain is a man!

Cy2938d ago

Not to mention there hasn't been a single new white male main character in any of the new movies. Almost like they're going out of their way to make sure every main protagonist is "diverse".

Oh, and all the new bad guys are white men too. Except Phasma, but she's there to be the cool badass ala Boba Fett, so she doesn't really count.

EverydayJoe2937d ago (Edited 2937d ago )

OK, so you have 1 Hispanic male, 2 European Caucasian woman, 2 Asian males and 1 Black man and that is for the sake of diversity?? Over 8 films, actually that IS for the sake of diversity. In a whole 8 film universe, that sound like barebones for diversity.

CyrusLemont2937d ago

I agree with this, the second I saw that leaked Battlefront 2 trailer it was immediately apparent that it's starting to be less about making a rich and diverse roster of male and female leads, but a contrived set of female leads to "empower" women.

Forget about men so we can further the cause of this SJW era that's not productively balancing men and women in all mediums, and instead over compensating, over producing, over killing with such a high concentration of female leads to further this stupid passive aggressive protest for equality.

Ironically this is producing the opposite results by neglecting the obvious superiority men carry under military regime because of their biological advantages.

A smarter move would have had the female a military strategist boss in a supporting role to a male lead exacting revenge on the rebels.

It makes my brain bleed with disgust towards these developers and social groups that attempt this crap for their PC crusades.

It's wrong.

HarrisonMode2937d ago

You are right. You can primarily thank Kathleen Kennedy for this and her pro-radical feminism stance being forced into a universe that already had plenty of strong females.

WelkinCole2937d ago

Can we for once leave BS politics out of this?.

You know I never ever cared when there were 100 or more male protagonist in many freaking games I have played the last couple of years.

It is irrelevant.

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loverlink2937d ago

I don't see this as a big deal. I understand in the male point of view how they are using females, but you have to know now that the fan base is no longer male dominant. You could apply this to games as well. There are young girls who are excited to see this film since they can relate gender wise which is great! And as for me, it's a nice change of pace of male dominant leads for the past 100 years or so.

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Wolfgang1872938d ago (Edited 2938d ago )

They can call it canon all they want. The books and the prequels and Disney Star Wars are canon to some, but not to me.

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Marathon is doomed — ARC Raiders is already a much better extraction shooter

Windows Central: “Embark Studios' ARC Raiders is the extraction shooter I've been waiting for. Here's why it's better than Bungie's upcoming Marathon.”

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_SilverHawk_3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

This is silly. I think both games are amazing. Both games can be very successful at the same time and I hope they are.

z2g3h ago

I hate articles like this. “My opinion is all that matters. Click my stuff”. Both games will have their audiences. Some ppl like rock. Some ppl like rap. Not everyone is the same.

LordoftheCritics54m ago

Both are just another streamer game.

z2g3h ago

So we can we can see into the future now? I’m sure ARC is fine, me personally? Far more interested in Marathon. Between known Bungie’s solid gameplay and world building to the aesthetics and concept, I’m all in on Marathon.

InUrFoxHole57m ago

Yeah but unfortunately marathon are both in the hands of gamers and one has been recommend for delay.

jjb19812h ago

I played the Technical Test 2 earlier today and had a blast. I got thrown in an instance, saw a guy walking up some stairs, started shooting at him and watched him run for his life. It was funny until I got killed by some random drones. They're both different games and will have their space. Only the gameplay loop will tell.

pwnmaster30002h ago

Why do gamers/gamejournalist do this? We need to stop with all this doom article game shit.

lodossrage2h ago

windowscentral wouldn't have wrote this "piece" if Bungie was still owned by Microsoft.

And yes, I'm implying exactly what anyone reading this comment thinks.

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The Latest Major Order Sends the Helldivers 2 Players to Reclaim Various Strategic Sites

The Illuminate made quite a mess in the previous Major Order and it's up to Helldivers 2 players to clean it and reclaim important sites.

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Borderlands 4 - State of Play Deep Dive

In today's special State of Play presentation, Creative Director Graeme Timmins and Senior Project Producer Anthony Nicholson showed off the deepest ever look at Borderlands 4's explosive, carnage-filled gameplay.

RhinoGamer886h ago

For dedicated Borderlands player, what is the vibe/take on this game? Pre-order worthy?

LiViNgLeGaCY5h ago

I'm super excited for it. This looked awesome to me.

ThinkThink3h ago

I was hoping for improved visuals, but it still looks last gen. Looks fun though, hopefully it's more borderlands 2 and less borderlands 3.

Noskypeno2h ago

I personally think it looks pretty good graphics wise. Probably not the best example of a next gen game, but there's only so much you can do with that art style.

MrDead3h ago

It's just more Borderlands, for me that's a good thing. Looks like they've added to the more free flowing movement from the third game.

I don't know if I'd pre-order, I'll probably just buy it on release day.