Microsoft Is Doing A Complete 180 With Xbox Scorpio

For years, Microsoft chased an elusive dream. The Xbox was always meant to be a Trojan horse, the company said, a machine that enticed gamers in with titles like Halo before gradually convincing everyone else of the wisdom behind having a fairly powerful internet-connected computer sitting beneath their television screens. The company tried to straddle a line between attracting core gamers and a broader public, all the while expanding the entertainment options of its machines so that they less resembled dedicated gaming devices and looked more like the nerve center for an entertainment system. With Xbox Scorpio, it's trying something different.

[Gazondaily]

Scorpio is a result of Microsoft realising all it's missteps with the Xbox One and the complex it's had as a result of its defeat against Sony and the PS4.

BUT this shows how much Microsoft and Xbox are willing to fight back.

For all the cries of gloom and doom, the way Xbox is attempting to fight back is admirable and shows that they are in the game seriously.

Now they need to do the hard bit and deliver on the games. Good to see the competition fighting back so hard and being determined.

Now to unleash the BEAST!

[Nyxus]

Yeah, if at E3 they show off some great new games (new IPs preferably) then they certainly are on the right path.

[LoveSpuds]

I bought my XB1 on the strength of their E3 showing 3 years ago when they had that awesome conference with loads of games, cloud and Hololense. Since then their implementation of the Cloud is non-existent, Hololense will never see a commercial release and half the games they showed were scrapped and the rest were relatively disappointing and all of them are now on PC. Just like the 360 days, it's Halo, Gears and Forza on repeat.

I just don't know that I can afford to trust MS at their word any more, they just spin and outright lie and as a result, I see me waiting for a few years until there is a back catalogue that is tempting enough.

[Z501]

Haven't MS already been showing games at multiple E3's years past? Why will this E3 be different?

[GTgamer]

Great ips take time I really don't think MS has any really big games to announce but if they do, I'm pretty sure it's very far from release.

[donthate]

Spuds:

You are about to get some love from MS, and get rewarded for buying an XB1 at this E3. Phil Spencer's got a gift with your name on it. It says, From Phil Spencer, Head of Xbox To LoveSpuds with lots of love.

[aconnellan]

I completely agree that they need a better flow of games, but I'm pretty certain they've showed new IP at every E3 since 2013. What would your benchmark be?

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Love Spuds lives in some kind of alternate world. The hololens plans for xbox aren't set until 2018. And the hololens were shown at GDC not E3. The cloud is being used, like game saves, just logging in on your profile, and not needing to walk around with a hard drive with your game saves. These so called xbox owners are getting desperate with false information. GTFO

[chris235]

i will be very reluctant with their new ips. i once almost bought an xbox for maximum overdrive. in the end i'm glad i could withstand. the same with dead rising 1. terrible game but back then if i had the money i would have gotten sucked in to the boxverse. their ips seem always to be the next best thing but after a short while they are really not worth getting a machine for.

[nevarDcirE]

Ye I'm confident E3 will be packed with game demos and new announcements, with a decent portion releasing this year, and early 2018.

[ShadowKnight]

From Rare and 343? Sea of thieves does look interesting. Halo 6 should be at E3

[CyberSentinel]

I'm sure Microsoft will promise great things at E3 to sell scorpio's, but what will they actually deliver? What if anything will be exclusive to Scorpio? Why should I invest in this, if all it does is play Xbox One games? (Granted at better resolutions and speeds, but I'm still gaming on 1080p) I would totally preorder this, if I had a really enticing reason too. 4K/60 fps, for me, isn't enough.

[slate91]

Agreed, they arent playing around and this investment shows it. Now deliver on the games. Lets allow 343, coalition, and rare work on some new IP

[Kingthrash360]

Don't expect any new announcment from rare....Sea of theives is their new game. If anything else ...probably a banjo remaster.

[ShadowKnight]

A little to late next gen starts in two years btw.

[Obscure_Observer]

@ShadowKnight

Yeah. I´m sure the PS5 will be out before ND releases The Last of Us Part II for the PS4. :p

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

That ps4 pro is quite a waste then. I'm sure Sony will go bankrupt from RnD or just keep selling half step systems from now on

[nevarDcirE]

Have fun waiting

[BlackOni]

Agreed. I encourage the competition. Means better options for consumers. Very interested to see how the approach exclusive content moving forward.

[Rude-ro]

That is the part that is not good with competition. Microsoft is going hard after the third party content.
Monopolizing is not competition. They stay clear of monopolies and dirty marketing and news... then we can say they are turning over a new leaf.

[Aenea]

Yup, with all the custom stuff they added into the APU of this thing and the cooling system tells me they mean business!

Am sadly sure it won't but it would be awesome if Sony would be shaking in their boots right about now, we'll see what happens!

[jmetalhead77812]

Lol at the disagrees. You're spot on with your comment. XB made mistakes and are paying for it with "losing" the console war to PS. The Scorpio proves they're dedicated to console gaming and aren't just throwing in the towel.

About six months until the BEAST is released!!

[Bronxs15]

you're right it's admirable microsoft isn't content with being second best. they want to be first. much better than say what nintendo does and bows out when the competition becomes too much. similar how sony did when ps3 was a fiasco, they didn't give up they really fought back and changed their systems design.. however instead of adding things like ms did xbox one like adding backward compatibility sony removed ps2 compatibility from ps3. both ms and sony did strip away features tho like sony removed unnecessary usb and memory card readers, and ms removed kinect.

it just shows that both companies are competitive and the consumer benefits as both companies vie for our dollar.

[SirBradders]

Scorpio is more a result of the cloud not being fully realised.

[Nodoze]

No, Scorpio is a result of them fixing poorly designed hardware from the get go. Anyone who believed that cloud nonsense is just too easily persuaded. Where is Crackdown? Where are the other 'Power of the cloud' titles?

They don't exist. More marketing BS from MS.

[SirBradders]

That's exactly my point, can't give my money to a company that completely bs's everyone.

[SpaceRanger]

Pfft...the TRUE BEAST is coming with PS5!

Scorpio is a death sentence to any consumer who actually want support for this expensive console, beyond the yearly shovelware that studios having been putting out.

I can already hear you praising Call of Duty this year just because Scorpio is coming out 😂

[Gazondaily]

"Scorpio is a death sentence to any consumer "

😂 Lol wtf

[gangsta_red]

Even though Sony Playstation is the new home of CoD eh?

And are we now hyping the PS5 with the arrival of Scorpio? Wow...too funny.

[Obscure_Observer]

@SpaceRanger

PS5? See you in about 4 years.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Bringing up the PS5 shows desperation. Sony can keep COD. Those solo, single play through exclusives don't seem to last long enough, that's why multiplats see more play time in that platform.

[UltraNova]

@nat

As if you MS boys werent mentioning scorpio since the ps4 pro got announced almost in all pro related articles...you know for a whole year now!

Thats some next level hypocricy...

[gangsta_red]

@UltraNova

"As if you MS boys werent mentioning scorpio since the ps4 pro got announced..."

You mean a system that was actually announced by real human beings as a mid gen upgrade complete with the base specs shown on stage?

Compared to...

Mentioning the PS5 which hasn't even been conceived, revealed as coming or no where near releasing anytime soon?

Yea, next level hypocrisy indeed.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

I don't see the appeal. Yeah it will be the most powerful console yet but that's it. The main issue with Xbox One is not having a lot of variety of exclusives. A more powerful console won't change anything. It's too early to say MS is doing a 180 with Scorpio.

[Silly gameAr]

Unleash the beast? That's a bit cringy.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

couldn't agree more - and whenever 'release the beast' is said in any other medium, said 'beast' ends up dying. Is that a omen?

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

So is claiming 4k and not clarifying is checkerboard, yet doesn't support 4k bluray

[trooper_]

Lol @ Fanboy.

Clarify what? What does Sony need to clarify? You guys still going on and on about no 4k games on the Pro?

[UKmilitia]

they need to ditch the xb one UI its horrible

[DarXyde]

I don't know about all that. I like the Xbox one and think it's a cool piece of technology as is. I think its only misstep against PS4 is software, but so far, their solution appears to involve throwing power at the issue.

[Godmars290]

Until they loose the obsessive focus on online multi, cause it gives them XBL subs, they will never "Unleash the BEAST!"

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

The online multi is what PS lacks. But I don't see you fan boys going around talking about building pcs and having free online for xbox games calling the online experience obsessive. You fan boys can never make your minds up. Just keep spewing whatever you can come up with to look like your right.

[Godmars290]

What are you talking about? How does the PS lack online multi titles when its had them since the PS2? My issue has been the decline of SP gaming since then. That now, as a consumer and gamer, I have to consider if not worry about frame rates and other crap.

[Utalkin2me]

Ms forte is doing 180's.....Nothing new here, lets move along.

[Retroman]

MS remind us the children story "little boy cried wolf " each cry led to Nothing but smoke an mirror .
they cried with Xbox, they cried with 360, they cried with X1 , now they Crying Hard with Scorpio .
each time Xbox open their mouth Sony Slap it shut Ka-Bamm ps3, Ka-Bamm ps4, Ka-Bamm ps4 pro .
by time Scorpio release Ka-Bamm ps5 ........... keep crying wolf MS Sony ready.

[Uken12]

@Septic

I disagree. MS is not taking the right steps in fighting back. XB1 has no games, no reason to buy an XB1, it's less power with the same games and no interesting exclusives. CoD and Madden can only be played so much.
They have relied on Halo too much and have turned the series into the E-Sports, Under Armor-looking mess that has steered away from everything that made Halo great in the first place.

If MS were to actually fight back, they would start spending the money on actual games. Because this gen is abysmal when it comes to games. Good games and not the Indie crap that only 10,000 people like.

[gedden7]

the best thng they can do is make games exclusively for the XB Scorpio... But they can't which do you want?

[FallenAngel1984]

Microsoft has been doing nothing but 180s this generation

[ApocalypseShadow]

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[ShadowKnight]

😂😂😂 the dizziness is killing me

[badz149]

right round, right round

[trooper_]

Lol @ Apocalypse.

[Retroman]

Last video Funny
MS handed Sony the sword to wimp their ass Haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa sweet.

[aconnellan]

What else do you want them to do? Stick to their old path and release their 24-hour checkin vision of a console?

What I can't get over is the amount of shit people hang on MS for everything they do.

They got shit for their initial reveal (so much backlash), so they changed it completely to be in line with what consumers wanted.

That's so unheard of, especially from a massive company like MS, and what's the reaction? "Lol Xbox 180 lolololol"

Fucking ridiculous if you ask me, and just goes to show the ridiculous bias against MS across this site

[Lukejrl]

The problem is not the 180. The problem was their attitude that they new better.

MS was arrogant at the immediate backlash and overall they lacked detailed information people required with these new changes in policy. When they saw by lack of preorders the majority of people agreed with the initial issues, they did the 180.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Don't worry about these fanboys. These are the so called gamers that are salty and dissatisfied with the plastic boxes. So they have to circle jerk and bash MS and xbox to feel better. Go to the Ps4 reddit and look at how happy they are with the Scorpio. The DF reveal was pleasing to them while the Downplay Platoon was marching on this site. Funny thing is, some these fanboys here try so hard, that they'll post console war shit on the xbox and ps4 reddit, and barely get a comment, even negative xbox stuff on the ps4 reddit. So they come back here and copy and paste their reddit comments and hop right in with their circle buddies.

[Retroman]

If you haven't figure it out yet............MS only Good making computer software !!! they proved it without a doubt. they're noooooooooooooooooooooo at making gaming console simple as that. Millions of ps4 gamers see it why can't you? some had their 360 fix 5 times, will it take 5-6 x1's to be repaired or 3 repaired Scorpio's? to finally get it?.
Halo,Gears,Forza not enough for me to buy MS product .
if i had X1 with 3 games i'd be Bored as Hell , trade it in for console with variety of games .

[aconnellan]

@GT

Try harder mate, your response was childish and had nothing to do with my question.

360 fucked up with RROD, but Xbox One hasn't had any hardware issues that I know of (at least none on that scale).

If YOU haven't figured it out yet, different people have different tastes. Just because mine are different to yours doesn't mean I'm wrong, and your comment isn't going to suddenly make me 'get it' and sell my Xbox.

Also, Digital Foundry seem to think they're pretty good at making hardware. But I guess if you're saying that they aren't, so I should just believe you, right? The random fanboy in the forums, instead of the tech analyst that gets paid to analyse tech

[hahaha]

The Scorpio has given us and the developers great starting point, now all we need are games to demonstrate the hardware capability.

[Rude-ro]

It's capabilities is making this gg's Xbox one games look and perform better... not a huge leap.

[psuedo]

But dont forget they have to be able to run on the original xbox one too, so....

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I just hope they didn't go too crazy with Scorpio's specs since it's a refresh and not a new console. They really need some new games to push with Scorpio.

[uth11]

Another 180? I'm getting dizzy

[nevarDcirE]

That's your fault for spinning in the same direction. If you alternate clockwise and anti-clockwise rotations you'd be fine.

[ShadowKnight]

I feel like I'm in an alternative universe. What year is it? The 180 is strong with the Xbox

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Cant wait for the pspro checker board, eyes bleeding reviews

[S2Killinit]

They are doing so badly that the best PR slogan is "MS is doing a 180". At this point no one knows which direction the 180 is facing.

[Gazondaily]

"At this point no one knows which direction the 180 is facing."

??

The new hardware unveiled has impressed many. I know you were at the forefront of the failed Gamingbolt article citing a Ready at Dawn dev, quick to downplay it rather desperately.

The direction is obviously clear. They have the impressive hardware, no matter how hard you try to squint and desperately downplay it on here all day.

[S2Killinit]

uha. I was referring to the number of "180"s. At this point 180, when referring to xbox means anything you want it to be. They just repeat the "180" PR slogan, and it roughly translates to: "whatever you thought sucked about what we were doing before, its going to be the opposite now" and we are all supposed to accept that its true and move on.

what does hardware have to do with it? They are coming out with a console after this many years, if its not "impressive" then I would start to worry, OF COURSE its impressive, but that wasn't MS's main problem now was it? I thought it was that they keep launching new consoles and stop supporting them halfway. The question a person should ask themselves is, "should I believe that it will be different this time".

[StormLegend]

This is the final year for MS if they don't show anything good at E3. I know the price of the console is good to hear but I want game release dates, new Ip's and tons of gameplay.

[1908-PB]

wouldn't you love to see that right? you know what I like the most seeing one corporation monopolize a business because i know it will be better for all of us in the long run.

[MatrixxGT]

LoL, I've been hearing this for 10 years. Yet they just dumped money into tech never seen in a console before. Good lord guys..MS isn't going anywhere in the gaming industry.

It's like sueing a millionaire for $1000 and they spend $300k in lawyers just because they can.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

These fan boys are desperate. MS probably put more money into xbox's then what Sony's worth. Lol and they just keep going, while these dumbasses keep posting 'oooh their their pulling out of console gaming Deeerrp'

[MrSec84]

Scorpio's SoC uses the same core CPU and GPU tech as PS4 Pro, only it's GPU uses 4 more Compute Units, even the GPU command processor is standard, it's just using pre-written commands to make DX12 math more automated, but GPU command processors have been used in consoles before.
When PS4 and Pro were developed the technologies inside them hadn't been used in a console before, same goes for GDDR5 being used as a unified memory pool for consoles.

Really the only major differences in Scorpio are a slightly bigger GPU and 50% more RAM.

It is baloney to say Microsoft are going anywhere, just like it's bull to say Scorpio will launch at $500 or $600, but so is this assertion that Scorpio is using never seen in a console before, when it's an iteration.

[aconnellan]

You know they do that every E3, right?

[Bolts]

The Xbox One is the dead weight that will drag this savior console down.Its time to cut the cord and announce Scorpio exclusives.

[kneon]

That would just piss off existing customers, and those are the ones most likely to upgrade to a Scorpio.

[psuedo]

I never bought an xbox one, and never will and hell it pisses me off. Same with the pspro.

[sk8ofmnd]

Idgaf what they change about the xbs just as long as its done before launch.

And for fncks sake... Fix your u.i. ms!

I know one thing... I wont be getting one at launch... Ill wait 2 years for the xbss (xbox scorpio slim) and about 200$ less judging by how ms slash prices and esp if it starts in the 5-600$ and doesnt sell gangbusters.

[LoveSpuds]

Agreed, I will wait because, as you point out MS drop the price of their hardware a lot. Secondary to this, I want to wait to see how committed they are to new titles this time around and so will wait until the back catalogue reaches a point where I can justify making a purchase.

[Deathdeliverer]

I'm not buying one day one because when the Xbox one did not sell well they reduced the price by about $100 within the first year. As a day one supporter I felt shafted. Some of the games that were supposed to come out year one didn't. It's like I paid more to simply say I was day one. I'll be saving that money this time. Not to mention there's a possibility of hearing about the next gen consoles within 2 years. Fool me once...

[TheGamingArt]

How?

[timotim]

The 180 I look forward to from MS is them going back to their roots of the original Xbox and what they started with 360 but got away from. Xbox has a great history of innovation in tech and games...at E3, I want to see Team Xbox revive that again.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

The console isnt big. It has the same footprint as the XB1 S.

[Vasto]

The hardware reveal was just the start.

You aint seen nothing yet.

[rainslacker]

"You aint seen nothing yet."

Yeah, that's what most people who criticize have been saying since last year.

[Nodoze]

Funny that you make the point precisely. We HAVEN'T seen anything yet. That IS the point.

WHERE ARE THE GAMES??

[nitus10]

Until the Scorpio comes onto the market the PS4pro is still the most powerful console and will be so for at least another six months. Even when the Scorpio releases you really do have to ask the question as to who will buy it? Do you honestly think million of gamers (especially existing PS4 ones) are all of a sudden going to trade in their consoles?

Do yo honestly think existing XBox gamers are going to trade their older consoles for the Scorpio or just purchase the Scorpio as a second XBox console? Yes, I know some will but most won't.

[Skankinruby]

You mean, now they'll start putting out quality games???

[Bronxs15]

Wow forbes is really living off of scorpio spec reveal now...

[andrewsquall]

How is it a 180 NOW though? They've been doing a 180 since the worse games console reveal in history on 21st May 2013. Going into E3 2014, 2015, Xbone fans have always been saying "its all about the games and the GAMEPLAY, NOT graphics".

What is Scorpio doing that is so different from Xbone?

[Bigpappy]

Lots and lots of POWER!!!

[XXanderXX]

Awesome, good for them

[shuvam09]

Why not name the console XBox One80???
After all, that's what they have been doing this whole gen...

[Nodoze]

Too funny and VERY appropriate.

[StrangeColors68]

Xbox One STILL doesn't have an option to hear "Multiplayer Voice Chat" via your TV while using a headset, and it STILL doesn't allow USB Headsets/Microphones LOL.

Xbox Scorpio will have the same problems, it's hilarious and sad that Xbox One still lacks those basic features. *SLOW CLAP*

The PC, PS3, PS4 and XBOX 360 can do "Multiplayer Voice Chat" via TV while using a headset *Face Palm*

Microsoft should stay in their own lane and stick to only releasing windows operating systems.

[Youngindy21]

Why does one even need those features though? Also you probably can hear multiplayer voice chat if you are using a Kinect.

[StrangeColors68]

@Youngindy21 The kinect is a bad solution, because not everyone wants to be forced to use a crappy kinect as a microphone, people want to use a better quality headset as a microphone.

"Multiplayer Voice Chat" via TV is also useful, if your real life friends want to hear what people are talking about on voice chat.

Plus when i am communicating via headset, i would rather hear voice chat via my TV, instead of people talking directly in my ears via headset.

[thexmanone]

Another user name? How many times are you going to copy and past this?. We get you don`t like MS.

[StrangeColors68]

@thexmanone I am just spreading the truth about Xbox One's weird design decisions, the N4G mods have banned me and tried to censor me loads of times, but they can't fully stop me.

[Silly gameAr]

Forbes is definitely on the Scorpio hype train. Most of the articles that have anything to do with the Scorpio have come from them.

[WeAreLegion]

No, it isn't. It's just a more powerful console. What is this guy smoking?

[thehitman1398]

Lol, Forbes oh Forbes. You are the new ign lol

[SkippyPaccino]

Full 180? So back to TV? Well played

[Markusb33]

Forbes releases an articles slating Sony a day or 2 ago then one praising MS. Doesn't take a fan boy to work out the agenda here. Nice balanced so called journalism

[Dragonscale]

So true. Just waiting for an article headed 'please buy scorpio' lol.

[3-4-5]

* XB1 could never "win" this gen because of the decisions made prior to Phil spencer at the helm.

They have been patching things up for the past few years trying to recover as gracefully as possible, but it's no easy task, especially when Sony's PS4 is selling like it is.

I think Microsoft stands a much better chance at competing against Sony during the next gen when they can overcome some of the stupid mistakes and not have to play catchup 100% of the time.

The next gen can't come soon enough for the heads at Microsoft.

[Emme]

I really wonder why MS isnt able to get better mjore varied 1st party games. I mean, they have game studios, dont they. Every 1st party Nintendo game rocks the charts. Every 1st party MS game is...well.Gears4 was cool, but I am not into Halo or Forza. That other game where You glide on energy lines...dont even remember the name. And recore, well, nice, but it pales compared to something like Zelda:BOTW. I really dont get it.

[lawgone]

Herp derp "something something 180." Yes, very clever. I'll be playing games.

[PFFT]

180 or not whocares the Scorpio is gonna be a fucking MONSTER! Its a day one buy for me!

[nitus10]

Enjoy your six-month wait.

[PFFT]

Thanks, will do. In the meanwhile ill be playing the second strongest console yet more popular console, the PS4 PRO. AHHHHHHHHHHHH the perks of being a multi-console gamer are amazing. Much better than acting like a fool in forums fighting over stupid and trivial things.

[wheresmymonkey]

Something different! Or the exact thing that MS always have tired to do with the Xbox. bring the PC into the living room. Nothing has changed here. If anything its closer to their original vision because all the Scorpio is, is a mid range PC with a simplified Windows 10 OS.

There's nothing special about it at all. Ultimately it shows how pointless traditional consoles have become. Least i can play the Switch on the go. The Scorpio does what exactly... gives me prettier graphics... runs my existing games slightly better. Sounds like benefits of upgrading a PC to me. not a new console.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Forbes.... enough said

[jwillj2k4]

You should read the article, it's actually not biased. It states they need games and only hardcore fans will buy this console by the end of the article.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

While the article may have a fair point or two even I refuse to read Forbes because they are intentionally misleading with click bait titles on most of their articlea and often just delusional with their takes on gaming.

[Gravesinger_]

There's so much SALT in this thread, I feel like I'm swimming in the ocean reading it.

[FreakyFox]

My console is winning , My console is winning ! Ha Ha

Show me the exclusive games , and value for money.

I just see Microsoft as a Placebo Effect, because people know they are forcing and breaking principles all the way to the bank on all their platforms, and people still think they are great.

Its funny how we now pay for mandatory online multiplayer service, that now Nintendo are introducing,which seems the norm now ,that Microsoft introduced.

I mean what multiplayer service are they providing, when we the consumer have to still HOST the game?

Its like paying to be abused, i think people love it. Abuse me Microsoft!!! LMAO

[jznrpg]

They have been running in circles since mid gen of xbox360 . Halo Gears Forza looped in time

[Notellin]

They're doing half a Xbox 360 if you feel me.

[Nodoze]

Wow yet another Scorpio article from Forbes. What is MS paying them for the press or something.

Also, as was said in the past, great hardware is NOTHING without great software. In many instances in the past, even with more powerful hardware, the console with the fewer offerings lost. Software is key. The same is true for ANY console. Sony's, NIntendo's, or MIcrosoft's. Unless they intend to announce some serious software offerings at E3 for THIS year, this will sell to the hardcore crowd only.

[DrugsAreGood4U]

It's a bit early to say they're doing a 180.

I can understand why the media wants to overly cover this topic. They want MS to be able to get back to their 360 days. They want the console gaming market to be competitive because that's always better for the consumer and media outlets. The Scorpio is just a beefier version of the Xbox One just like the Pro was a beefier version of the PS4.

They're not going to sell another 25 to 30 million Scorpios in the next 4 years just like the PS4 Pro isn't going to sell another 50 million Pros in that same time frame. Will they sell that amount with an accumulative of all of their models? Yea, possibly. But why would third party developers want to give exclusive items/dlc/timed releases to a brand that has less sold? They can still get some exclusivity but Activision and all of the rest of the PS4 exclusives are going to stay with Sony because they're making more.money with them ATM in this generation.

The Wii was a vastly underpowered machine that sold a shit ton of units. Hardware specs don't mean as much in the console business. What matters is the price/bang for your buck. If the Scorpio is priced at $500, that's a pretty good area to be around but once they release that price point, Sony is just going to price cut their Pro and probably their slim models. They're going to market it playing the same games that Scorpio does. Sony can put the nail in the coffin if they bundled them with their VR. Slim model +PSVR at $400 would be an interesting turn of events.

I want MS to do good.....I really do. They really need to nail it with the price and the games though. If they cant do that, everyone will be waiting for the PS5

[modelgod]

That Donkey Kong Country clause was probably the smartest video game move ever! I hope MS isn't banking on a Mine craft 2 timed exclusive, I'll be terribly disappointed. Even more so than I am now. The PS4 1st quarter onslaught, coupled wit the Scalebound cancellation, might have actually put the nail in the coffin. If MS made a system that was equivalent to a PS6, it wouldn't matter due to the lack of software. Initially....I purchased the correct console, but now....I'm going to grab a PS4(no need for a pro, exclusives trumps 4k). Damn.....then my online experience is going to be trash!! You just can't win, either way you go. I don't feel like DESTROYING the PS faithful in Battlefield, COD, or Titan Falls 2, the PS4 community is TRASH in shooters!!

[Segata]

So it's getting games and Scalebound?

[gedden7]

Yeah by created what might a over priced system, that's a beast of course, with maybe some good IPs. Yeah complete 180.... Ummm that's just a more powerful xb1 w/o the kinect. Well after I bought a xb1 I'm totally not buying a Scorpio. I've wasted enough money on ms. Its a Switch and a PS4 Pro for me.

[opinionated]

I think it's reasonable to say they won't make the same mistakes they made with the Xbox one launch. There just isn't any way that is going to happen. They made great strides since then and the slim launch was a success. Their exclusives (including pc) are elusive though. Slim pickings. The last Xbox game I bought was dead rising 4.

I'm thinking the drought is to boost Scorpio support at launch. They are promoting superior backwards compatibility, game pass and stuff like that so they know what they are doing. E3 is going to be hype.

[Kc4u37]

I think everyone forget Microsoft is windows so they will always be more profitable than Sony....

[Warshade]

They still own Rare... They have wasted that company for WAY too long.

[Angel911]

LOL Anti-Scorpio article every week on N4G..Looks like people just don't want Xbox to succeed.. Fuckig some idotic articles everyday.... Games, games , games... XB1 games are Scorpio games.. It's not a new console, just upgraded version of X1

Those who can't afford new console will downplay it...I will buy it dayone coz i have a huge back log of X1s games that i couldn't finish...Will play Gears4, Halo 5, sunset and FH 3 at 4k this fall..Along with RDR2, Mordor, Forza 7, Crackdown, state of decay 2 and few more iam sure all at 4k..

Those who complaint on internet are usually those who will not buy or can't afford to buy it...

[rigo8582]

I'm in the same boat. I guess I'm in a different demographic. I have large list of games in backlog already, not even counting the games I get this year I'm still going to have plenty of games to play on the scorpio.

[septemberindecember]

180?
They did a 360 last generation. This is nothing guys. Watch Tony Hawk pull off a 900.

[kayoss]

Sounds like Microsoft and trump have something in common. Over promise to their supporters but never really give detail plans of how they will achieve those promises.

"Believe me, it will be tremendous. Everyone will be covered, believe me. I know health care."
- Donald Trump

[Einhander1971]

Let's be honest the only machine to deliver games will be PS4.

[zerocarnage]

I couldn't read anymore it was so bad the points this article is trying to make.

One bad point is people would basically rather have a phone than a console, there is a big difference in console games and phone games, with many clear cut differences in front of your eyes. The phone game market is nothing more than a money leech, 9 out of 10 games are designed to rip you off from the beginning or as you go through it. Another clear difference isphone games do not have the content or the graphics or even tools available to developers and god forbid it ever catches up to console, something that should never be aloud to happen because of how rip off devs clearly are. Yeah the phone games ain't nothing on consoles period.

I stopped reading after that because it sounded like an attack ms and on the scorpio, and there is no need at all. The thread made me feel like i didn't want to carry on reading, i dont know what was below the phone V console bashing but i felt i couldn't carry on reading.

[feedthereaper]

Makes me laugh that people are still upset about the always connected thing. I literally read a few weeks ago one person ripping the hell out of MS for daring to push on us something we didn't want like such as forcing us to leave the console connected to the online world....... which he posted from his mobile phone which, erm.... is always connected to the phone network....... and then 2 days later claiming he couldn't wait to play XXX demo.... that was downloading on his Xbox One while he was at work...... because he started the downloading using Smartglass App at work........ meaning both his console, smartglass and his mobile were all connected to the great internet of things anyway, but still..... got to have a bitch about Microsoft making what everyone does anyway, compulsory? lol

[hafitz]

already owned both ps4 and xbox one..won't be upgrading to ps4 pro and scorpio...will just make my money worth as it is. i'm gaming on 4k on pc. So I don't see the point upgrading my consoles. Will just wait for the next gen console.

[Mister_G]

Scorpio is the code name but what is it's real name? XBox 4k? Xbox Pro? Does anyone know yet?

[The_KELRaTH]

The Scorpio, like the PS4 Pro is what used to be the next gen in consoles with yet another new game CPU/GPU format but this time they don't have to go with that as it's basically a PC and has backward compatibility. I expect we will see yet another PS4 xxx and another Xbox variant with yet more powerful CPU/GPU etc etc

[Tzuno]

The fact that they have choose to go with Jaguar instead of a Zen CPU makes Scorpio a "i'm not so sure reaction" we shall see, the truth is the manufacturing price, sadly.

[SH1ELD]

180 for good.

[SuperbVillain]

does that mean it goes back to being a 360?