Microsoft on why Xbox One doesn't need a No Man's Sky equivalent

Eurogamer:
The ID@Xbox self-publishing program might be Xbox One's crowning glory at the time of writing, boasting 450 titles that have notched up well over a billion hours of play, but it could do with a crown jewel. The service has seen its share of critical darlings, from Superhot to Inside, but many of its best games are multiplatform, and many of its "exclusives" appear on PCs as well - part of a much-vaunted push towards device agnosticism that often feels like it's more in the service of Windows 10 than Xbox.

[TheOptimist]

Yeah, Xbox doesn't need a No Man's Sky equivalent, it has a better one, Elite Dangerous, which albeit a bit limited is a much better game.... What it needs are good games comparable to Persona 5, Horizon Zero Dawn, Yakuza 0, Nioh etc. I mean, there has to be a reason why Square Enix/Platinum deicided to release Nier Automata on PC and PS4 and not on Xbox One, and that reason sure as hell is not because of Sony signing a deal to keep it console exclusive, it's because they didn't see a potential in the market.... And from personally playing Nier Automata, I can say that Xbox owners are missing out on a lot. Being a PC gamer, I really feel bad for people who only own an Xbox

[mcstorm]

I think with Scorpio this may change as the contract on bringing the game to both consoles not just one will mean that they use the universal app which means putting it on all 3 consoles will be easy and less of a cost to do so we may see more games come from pc to Xbox but only time will tell on that one.

[TheOptimist]

I hope that Microsoft does that.... I don't want monopoly of Sony in the market, and Microsoft can surely get first party studios to make games for their platform because, overall as a company, they are much bigger financially.

[GtR35olution]

Its funny to me to see a lot of fanat-X saying they dont need certain games when they have such slim pickings which makes things worse imo. The xbox one is suffering because it has very few games to choose fromwhen youre takking about exclusive titles. Fanat-X talks so much about new controllers and scorpio but there wont be any exclusive titles to play

[mcstorm]

@TheOptimist I agree. We don't know what will and wont happen but just need to wait and see.

@GtR35olution I see what you are saying but again we don't know what will and wont happen. It also depends on what games your into to if the ps4 or xbox one is better for your needs for me I love my racing games and the xbox is the better console for this with its current offerings.

[ShadowKnight]

Ummm it's been 4 years since the Xbox one was release. I'm tired of a wait and see approach. They should've been had exclusive games

[JackBNimble]

Isn't elite dangerous coming to ps4 soon anyway? I thought No man Sky was a timed exclusive coming xb1 after 1 year.

I hope elite dangerous does come to ps4.

[Mr Pumblechook]

Xbox Defence Force article. It's this attitude from Phil Spencer regarding third party games that has left the Xbox One in 2017 lacking the breadth of titles that PS4 has.

[mcstorm]

I think people also have short memories in the tech world. Both the ps3 and ps4 started out slow in its life with exclusives where the 360 and Xbox one both had a lot at the start but as it got to the end lost its way. This is one thing Microsoft and Sony need to work on. I see the Scorpio refreshing the Xbox one game collection as games have to be made for both going forward but Microsoft also need to work at keeping them coming all year long and all the way through the gen. Sony need to take more care in pushing their new tech when it comes out. Look at the ps4 pro and psvr for example not much is pushing them at the moment but I'm sure in 12 to 18 months it will come or they will end up like ps move did. For me none of the 3 are perfect in the industry all have + and - sides but it's up to them all to correct the bits they do wrong and keep the things they do right going to. At the end of the day i don't want a gaming industry with one console i want Nintendo Microsoft and Sony to all do well to all push each other.

[Ceaser9857361]

If you think Scorpio gonna change anything then you're delusional. With Play anywhere features games have options and they would prefer sticking. Also the console wont come cheap.

"Microsoft can surely get first party studios to make games for their platform because, overall as a company, they are much bigger financially."

True but they don't because MS prolly doesn't want to take the risk with Xbox Brand.

[chris235]

how do you know that sony did not pay money for the exclusivity? after all, that is how exclusivity-deals are working.

micky$oft just lost their grip after their 360 era where they made every second major game a timed exclusive. at least it felt that way. in the meantime they focused on everything else but gaming. now their production teams are gone and new ones too expensive to build up or buy.

what we are left with is a gaming console that just so happens to also play games. but games are still not their core feature as it seems. that is by the way the reason i don't own an xbone. i'd like to, but why? no incentive. scorpio? the same. i dont need a mee-too product in my house.

[TheOptimist]

Because the director himself has said that the game was not made for Xbox One due to budget restrictions..... He said that if the game sold well, there willbe a Xbox version and even remasters of the Drakengard and Nier games for all current gen consoles.

I dunno about the rest, I never bought a 360

[TheCommentator]

Yep, Optimist, that's what he said to me at the Gamestop managers conference 4(?) years ago too. He also said that because the team was smaller, they wanted to focus on one console at a time to ensure the game was the best it could be.

[LordJamar]

cant take anything you say seriously doing the $ sign

[Automatic79]

I agree Elite Dangerous is fantastic.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

xbox doesn't need NMS because it was a failure. that said, i'm pretty confident we are going to see more from MS in the near future. I know for a fact Scorpio has a lot of developers excited for the hardware and i think MS actually has a good foundation to build on going forward.

As an owner of an xbox one s (and a ps4 pro) i will say that there isn't a shortage of games on xbox. There are less exclusives than on ps4, yes this is true, its also true that they need more 1st (technically 2nd) party studios to build new IP. That doesn't mean there aren't games to play though. of both consoles i own, about 3-4 are exclusives on each respective system... but I have about 16 games for xbox and about 12 for ps4. exclusives are a minority of the games I buy. Not because i have anything against them, but must have exclusives are fairly rare and which ones are must-haves are completely subjective to every person. For example - I love racing. Love racing games. The ps4 has very little to offer for good quality racing sims, right this minute, so I play a lot of Forza MS on xb1 because its great. and for less sim like stuff theres Forza Horizons, which I'm sorry is substantially better as a game than drive club. The xbox doesn't have a great new action rpg like Horizon Zero Dawn, so I play it on ps4. BUT I don't like JRPGs. could care less - so having all of those on ps4 is irrelevant to me and MS not having many, is a non-issue.

anyway don't feel sorry for me having an xbox because its been great and it gets plenty of use. both of my consoles do. i feel the internet makes things seem way worse than they are.

[donthate]

No Man's Sky was a flop and I don't think any platform needs it.

[Yohshida]

How do you know they didn't have a Deal? They constantly shell out deals for indies we don't know about to have the game exclusive for 1 Year.

I talked to the devs behind Tricky Towers at Gamescom last Year and even they got a Deal with Sony to SPECIFICALLY not release it on X1 for 1 Year. It releases on August 2. 2016 and will release at the same date for X1 in 2017. Did they ever told us that they signed a deal? Nope.

[TheOptimist]

I don't see a reason as to why Squaer Enix will keep it from Xbox One... Here is the link that tells the reason
http://www.express.co.uk/en...

[rainslacker]

Not sure this game was ever intended for console at it's reveal. It was only confirmed for PC. Sony ended up publishing the PS4 version, and they probably did some work on making it on the system. Would have to go through the credits to see if that's the case.

Sony did spend some money to Hello Games after their office flooded, and maybe part of that was some sort of deal, or it just greased the wheels to allow Sony to publish the console version.

Otherwise, yeah, deals like this happen a lot. We never hear about it unless it's with the high profile IP's. It's not really just one company doing it, but is standard operating practice in the industry.

[LordJamar]

fuck japan and Japanese devs they proven time and time they dont care about xbox, were wasting time and money on jap devs who dont give a shit about xbox they have proved that go ahead and down vote me but its true you know it is

[Ceaser9857361]

Lucky i have both PS4 Pro and Xbox one... No complains , no whining.

TheOptimist
You're 100% right. Xbox one shouldn't always rely on Forza, Halo and Gears. I believe the brand Xbox has a lot of potential and they should learn to take the risk of making/investing on making IP. Quantum Break was average the game had alot of potential. Scalebound looked amazing shame! that it had to get cancelled. But i hope this doesn't stop Xbox brand to push forward. I am happy to learn playground games is working on an open world game and its not Forza. Hope 343, Coalition does something different.

[SlyFoxC]

You do know Elite Dangerous is coming to PS4 right?

[CocoaBrother]

So it's an exclusive game if its on PlayStation and PC, but not if its on Xbox and PC? How can you say they need a indie exclusive like No Man's Sky, which was on PC also, and then say MS need exclusives that aren't on PC?

[Goldby]

We'll Pc and Windows 10 are 2 different platforms now. and close to every game that is available on Xbox is also available on PC eiother through steam or Win10 store with Playanywhere.

Hellblade for example is a console exclsuive, thats releasing on steam and ps4. but not Windows 10 and Xbox.

[CocoaBrother]

Quote from the article: "The service has seen its share of critical darlings, from Superhot to Inside, but many of its best games are multiplatform, and many of its "exclusives" appear on PCs as well"

Followed by this: "There seems pressing need for a killer app of some sort, a phenomenon on par with the PS4's No Man's Sky to electrify the console's reputation as a platform for adventurous new IPs"

No Man's Sky is also on PC so why tout it as a PS4 exclusive in this article while blasting Microsoft for having games available on both console and PC?

[Goldby]

umm. may eb the play anywhere part of the xbox exclsuivces nows. im not really sure. NMS is technically an ps4 exclsuive in the sense of consoles

[XXanderXX]

Think Hellblade is Timed only on console and every where you look has it also arriving on PC,W10

[Goldby]

@Xxander

They have never stated Win 10. its PS4 and PC (aka steam)
January 8th Ninja Theory announced the PC version. but never stated anything about Windows 10.

Please learn the difference between the two computer platforms

[TheCommentator]

Hey, Goldby, take this with you when you leave... 🥅 ...it's getting in the way of rational conversation.

[Goldby]

@commentator,

Take what, its just a square.
everything i have stated about Hellblade is correct. its not my issue when XXanderXX is bring false information into the mix

[itsmebryan]

Are you batty and so much of a fanboy that you would say something so stupid? Steam is for Windows 7,8, and 10 PCs. You must not have a computer to say that games are released on Steam are not released on Windows 10. Smh

[Goldby]

@itsmebryan

im not talking about the OS Windows 10, but the Windows 10 store. you knwo the one thats only available on Windows 10 devices.

Hellblade is releasing on Steam which can be used on a windows 10 device but not sold through windows 10 store. aka to play it you need either a pc or a ps4. its not windows 10 and x box games, but pc and ps4.

Learn the differnce with the storefronts. thats what people talk about when they talk about win 10. not the os...

[nicsaysdie]

Let me clear this up. Hell blade will release on ps4 and pc through steam. When someone says it isn't releasing on win10 they mean that in fact it will not be purchasable through the windows store. What this means is that you can buy it through steam and play it on Windows 10, but also could buy it through steam or possibly gog and play it on a pc using Linux, or an android based system, or a mac. However if you only have a win 10 pc without steam you would not be able to purchase/play the game. Not that I think the majority wouldn't have steam. There is however a distinction. You can buy the game and play it on a computer with the OS of your choosing. In short none of the sales will contribute to Microsoft's market share of the game sales as you can not buy it through Microsoft directly. And just using Windows 10 as an operating system does not contribute to sales figures for Microsoft. All sales will contribute to sony's bottom line, none will contribute to Microsoft's. Hope that helps.

[rainslacker]

I can say that no console really "needs" any game, or a game that is similar to it.

Need is a strong word.

Nice to have though......sure....because who really wouldn't want more games to choose from, even if those games don't appeal to them.

[annoyedgamer]

That Astoneer game shows promise.

[NicSage]

I think it is much more fun than no man's sky.

[XXanderXX]

No ID@Xbox is doing great it don't need a crown especially if it turns out to be something like the mentioned game

[XXanderXX]

@Goldby I stand corrected, though all this can change .
knowing that now means I will be getting it on PC so to enjoy all the hard work brought to this game by the studio.

[XXanderXX]

That's right here's hoping its released on W10 (HS) seeing how NT are the developer and publisher and want all control to themselves which is awesome .

[Goldby]

I hope you enjoy the game,
i'm really looking forward to the awareness it will bring about mental health.
plus its a NT game so you cant go wrong

[XXanderXX]

@Goldby if it draws on matters of this kind through out the game

Psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that involves a "loss of contact with reality". People experiencing psychosis may exhibit personality changes and thought disorder. Depending on its severity, this may be accompanied by unusual or bizarre behavior, as well as difficulty with social interaction and impairment in carrying out daily life activities.

Will definitely use a steam account to experience it day one just to say how they did so .

[Goldby]

@XXanderXX

have you been following the developer diaries. its very interesting how they are going about the psychosis, PTSD and other mental health issues.

From focusing on Patterns in the "real world" and proper 3d audio for the voices she hears. to the camera set up to make the character feel even smaller compared to her enemies.

i'm no happy this game is indie so that no big wigs get the final say on how to portray mental health.

[Goldby]

so*

[TheColbertinator]

NMS blows. We dont need anything like that

[DillyDilly]

& with how No Man's Sky turned out smart move here

[iofhua]

I can't believe someone actually wrote an article about this.

No. No one need's an equivalent of No Man's Sky.

Hopefully no one will ever make one. For anything. Ever. One resource management spreadsheet nightmare simulation skinned as a cute space sim is enough.

[vega275]

Wait am i missing something. No mans sky is on PC. Its not a exclusive. I have said this many times. Media and sonyfanboys always want to blur the lines when it comes to what's "EXCLUSIVE".

Its only exclusive when its on pc and ps4. But not exclusive when it on xbox one and PC. I said the samething when they were labeling neir automata, and many other games "PS4 EXCLUSIVE" when they aren't. But try to beat xbox one down for not having true exclusive.

But yeah the gaming media and sites like Eurogamer ain't bias right /s

[isa_scout]

I've always viewed games that release on just one console as console exclusive. Meaning it's exclusive to that console. We Happy Few is an Xbox exclusive and No Mans Sky is a PlayStation exclusive. The problem is that regardless of which way you look at it Xbox One lags far behind PS4 in exclusives. The media doesn't need to pretend that the Xbox One is getting a beatdown because it is. I own 2 Xbox Ones and if you don't like Halo or racing you're SOL. The Xbox has great games, the problem is that most of them are on PS4 to.

[vega275]

If you only believe xbox is just halo and forza than thats your issue. Because last i checked quantum break wasn't halo or forza. Same with recore, sunset overdrive, ori and many other. The problem is because they don't sell like halo or don't get 10's from every review. They don't count or as this article is about because it's on pc its not exclusive but some how No mans sky is. Same with many other games on pc and ps4. Which is the point

[isa_scout]

Just this year 5 QUALITY exclusives released on the PS4, and it's only April. Some of the games you're mentioning were launch titles/year one for the Xbox One.You have to be able to see that the Xbox One lacks in quality exclusives or you must not be paying attention. There's a reason MS announced the Scorpio so early, they are conceding this generation to the PS4.

[gangsta_red]

You have to also consider that a lot of those exclusives released this year where also DELAYED from the previous past dates. Horizon, Nioh and especially Persona 5 were all delayed up until now. So yea, it may seem like 'Sony' dropped them all in succession but it's no one seems to remember how long gamers had to wait just to get them.

Maybe MS will do the same with Crackdown, SoT and SoD2, Cuphead and Below and then we can come back here and celebrate how MS is dropping quality exclusives in succession too.

"There's a reason MS announced the Scorpio so early,..."

This makes no sense, the Scorpio is a mid gen upgrade the same way PS4 Pro is. And the Pro was released earlier than the Scorpio so did Sony also concede this generation?

[uth11]

Wait isn't Windows 10 and Xbox the same platform now? They can already play No Man's Sky then.

[Phill-Spencer]

X1 sure doesn't need an equivalent of a game that was a let down to most who bought it.

But it would desperately need some high quality gaming experiences like uncharted, horizon, god of war, last of us, ratchet and clank, bloodborne etc. because x1 has nothing, NOTHING to counter these games and attract gamers because the current (console)exclusive aren't interesting enough to make the console a must buy, same will account for scorpio.

Ps
It would be awesome if ms would manage to shut the x1 haters (including me) down by pulling a load of new games(or/ and rebooted ip) out of their hat at e3 2017. i know it's unprobable but not impossible.

[isa_scout]

I'd love to hear from the people disagreeing with your comment. If the Xbox One has a counter to Uncharted,Persona 5, or Horizon please let me know so I can go buy it.

[Phill-Spencer]

I don't think it's really disagreeing though. Imo it's more like " i don't want to read this, it is hurting my feelings".^^

[gangsta_red]

No system should have No Man's Sky

[GamingGod72]

Of course they dont, that suit was garbage.

[ASBO-5]

well they need something, coz there aint s**t as of yet

[bluefox755]

Yeah, the last thing Xbox needs is more games... /s

[dohji]

I love how they mention a flop like NMS. Who the Fuck needs a flop. They do need a HZD tho.

[gamer7804]

Why on earth would MS need another disaster... They are going to have to work hard as it is to turn the exclusive ship around

[xX1NORM1Xx]

Nobody needs a no mans sky equivelent

[VersusDMC]

No man's sky was disappointing critically and a PR nightmare. Nobody needs a No man's sky. It's like saying PS4 needs a Recore...