Will Super Smash Bros. for the Switch be released much sooner than expected?
what about a new Ip? Nintendo. Cmon something new and fresh. It would be cool.
Lol are you serious.. I'm sure this smash bros is a wiiu port
I think he means an actual legitimate one. Thus far with the exception of Splatoon Nintendo hasn't really supported much new intellectual properties with the same effort we've seen from a Mario Kart Smash Brothers or Zelda Xenoblade as well if you consider it a actual new property ie not within the Xeno universe.
@_-EDMIX-_, In what way is ARMS not a legitimate new IP?
Legs DLC or a direct sequel?
Arms and wait for e3
Lol Unless this companies announced a fleet of new Studios it's actually kind of unlikely we're going to hear them announce a lot of new ips that are supported as much as you see Smash Brothers Mario Kart or Zelda. Nintendo traditionally has not really done that I've actually been very very very slow to adapting to new properties. The wii started the Xeno series in terms of the Blade series relax xenosaga fans lol) Wii U Got Splatoon so as you see it's kind of a snail's pace for this company in developing New Concepts They have not had a strong history of supporting a lot of new properties every generation, in fact they've had just the opposite
Arms seems fun, but I think we all want a new IP with as much depth as a proper Zelda, Mario, or Metroid game. Though, the new Zelda is amazing and the new Mario looks awesome as well.
I mean of course I think a lot of users want that but Nintendo has not done that and an extremely long time they just don't have a history of doing such a thing. I would say Splatoon in Xenoblade where the biggest new properties we've seen in regards to bigger endeavors.
ARMS, snipperclips, 1-2 switch it off are 3 new ips. Splatoon was also a new ip.
How much did Splatoon help the Wii U? In my personal opinion 1 new single intellectual property can turn things around for any company but they still need more properties for different markets and demographics Consider you listed Splatoon that would be like Sony listing LittleBigPlanet and having nothing else for the rest of the generation do you think that's enough to carry them? It's not saying it's a bad game it's simply saying it may not be enough. If anything I would also be like saying Eye Of judgement and then stating super Stardust HD. It's not saying those are bad games it's simply saying do you honest-to-god believe those would be enough to carry the PlayStation 3 successfully? So in that same respect why on Earth would you think what you listed is going to help this company change its image? It took Sony a whole lot of failures before it got to some great successes like Uncharted The Last of Us Infamous MotorStorm what have you. But Nintendo actually needs to break a few eggs shells to bake the cake what users are kind of displaying by not purchasing the Wii U is a perfect example of they did not do enough to convert enough users. On the financial side what I want to see Nintendo doing is exactly what Sony did last gen...START BUYING TEAMS! Sega just purchase Atlus and they just recently purchased part of Crytek. Could both teams not to Great use for Nintendo? You have a team like a Creator Metroid Prime serious because I'm pretty positive Nintendo does not own Retro Studios, you would have another team to create their RPG is like Paper Mario and house as well as other RPG franchises that Nintendo owns as well as bringing over the Persona and shin Megami tensei series as well as anything else that this team could create from the ground up. Sony purchased a plethora of teams over the last 10 years to ensure that they had a significant impact through this generation and you're seeing the fruits of their labor Horizon zero Dawn was made by a team that Sony purchased Last Generation. Sony purchased Sucker Punch and they're also making a new intellectual property . Soooooo from my viewpoint I believe Nintendo purchasing multiple teams it definitely helped them in this situation. Mind you the two examples I used for you I don't even believe would be enough to significantly change this company they would need to purchase more teams. Nintendo's issue right now is they need to broaden their demographic nobody saying abandon Zelda or Mario or anything like that they simply need to start catering some more audiences if they want more sales because the Wii U was very much showing that small fan base is not enough to carry them. If Sony could make Ratchet & Clank and resistance fall of Man I'm pretty damn sure Nintendo could still produce a Mario game as well as something brand-new from one of their main teams that actually supported just as much as a Zelda or Mario. As of right now it is very apparent that Nintendo is not even supporting or backing anything to the degree that you're seeing Mario or Zelda that kind of needs to stop. It's not saying to end full series it's simply saying they need to start doing the equal amount of supports the other properties once again I hate having to keep bringing up Sony but they're the only example that we could use.... Horizon zero Dawn. The fact that were comparing it to Zelda Is a big deal
@Edmix. I agree that Nintendo need to start buying new teams. In fact i was surprised that they didn't try to buy Atlus or Crytek. They have the money and need to invest it to ensure continued success. My point regarding new ips is that they have 3 new ips and a sequel to a very popular title in the first 6 months of switch being released. That's a great start. As for splatoon. Nothing was going to save the wii u. It failed because Nintendo barely released games in the first 2 years. Each game release was followed by a huge delay before the next was released. As for comparing splatoon to anything else. It sold 5 million copies, this is over double the number that bloodborne, driveclub and the order 1886 sold. That's an ip worthy of a sequel. Also splatoon helps secure the market in Japan as they love that game there.
@sd- I don't disagree with you, in fact I agree with you. simply that they need more of that. I just don't think that's enough no different then I would believe LittleBigPlanet and maybe super Stardust would not be enough. They missed some open opportunities to buy some amazing teams and I'm still in question why they're not investing. They could still purchase Playtonics. They need to start investing more and they need to broaden their appeal there's a lot of user base that they're just not touching. Like I said I agree with you but they need more than just Splatoon because Uncharted could not carry the PlayStation 3 alone, they had a plethora of other properties that sort of help fill that void.
@_-EDMIX-_ Nintendo should have bought Sega back when they were at their most vulnerable. Could you imagine Nintendo having such IP's as Sonic, Daytona, Phantasy Star, Shinobi, Virtua Fighter, Space Harrier, Afterburner, Crazy Taxi, Panzer Dragoon, Virtual On, and Jet Set Radio all to themselves to go along with Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, Splatoon, Smash Bros, etc? They could've been unstoppable!
You know what would be cool... Looking into something before you post something stupid in the comments.
Good luck there. As long as people keep buying them they will keep making them.
Well they could do both and because they Outsource the Smash Brothers to Namco I don't believe they would be out of the development team anyway so I don't really see this as an either/or
I understand wanting new ip's but are you suggesting Nintendo should also NOT make a new Smash Bros game since it's not a new ip? It would make good business sense to make another one since there's a big demand for them and they sell very well.
Very likely a Wii U port with all DLC characters and maps. Smash Bros only had 2 years on the Wii U before the console died. And since the Switch is not so much more powerful than the Wii U, it makes sense for "deluxe" version.
That would be crazy if it came out this year. Smash is one of my favourite series so I hope it does come soon.
its just going to be a deluxe version of the wiiu smash bros game, just like mario kart 8 deluxe. nintendo are going to turn the switch into port hell
While I would like a brand new Smash I'd be fine if they added a substantial amount of new characters to the current smash and called it deluxe edition. 10 new characters would satisfy me, but only if they were all brand new. I don't wanna see them say the first 3 "new" characters are Ice Climbers, Wolf and Snake...
It's definitely going to be a port. Too soon for an all new Smash with no build up. That's not how Smash gets released. I just hope we aren't flooded with ports. Sony and Microsoft set a bit of a precedent there.
nothing wrong with ports. I'm eager to see what 3rd party might have in the cards as well.
I'm not so sure I believe if that was going to be the case they probably would have just announced it at lunch anyway considering ports don't really take that long. If it really is just a deluxe version of Mario Kart I believe it is likely that Nintendo Rush this launch because I couldn't really understand how much a simple port would take them so long to announce especially knowing it would definitely help in sales.
To be fair, there are quite a few fantastic Wii U games that most gamers have not played, that deserve a chance again on the Switch. That's one of the reasons I sold my Wii U to a friend; I was banking on that I'd be able to play many of them again.
Port heaven like the PS4/Xbox one. Full of ports and remasters. So what's the problem?
In the case of MK8 Deluxe and Smash Bros I'm perfectly fine with it. Those games deserve a second chance because releasing on a system with a 12 million user base means very few people got to play them. I'd also like to see a few others be ported over to Switch like Captain Toads Treasure Tracker and Super Mario World 3D.
@Thunder_God_Bane The fact that many "gamers" cried foul on the PS4 and XBO for having ports, and now people act like it's okay for Nintendo when they're doing the same. AKA Hypocrisy. I personally don't have a problem with ports on any platform, but in Nintendo's case they don't have 3rd party support to really carry them, so ports are significantly more noticeable and harder to consider as new releases when if you had their last system, you played that game for months already just because Nintendo consoles are primarily exclusive based. But like I said, they need to port best of Wii U and best of 3DS early in the Switch lifecycle to flood the console with games Year 1 (unfortunately they're running a bit slower), and in Year 2 bombard with New IP's and a standalone Switch without the Dock with Tegra P1/X1 16nm revision and a better battery for $199, and watch the Switch take off. @WickedLester Over 7m people bought Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. on Wii U / 3DS. A lot of people experienced both games, but I get what you're saying.
We all know Smash Bros is coming to Switch
Definitely inevitable, but coming this year would be a huge surprise.
Not if it's a port of the Wii U version, as rumored a while back.
Would be great if we get Gamecube Controller support yet again.
There is literally nothing in that article that any reasonable person would read and assume a new Smash is coming this year. Terrible clickbait speculation garbage article.
I hope Isaac from Golden Sun will be playable this time and I'd also like to see Mike Jones from StarTropics be added to the game too.
Bad idea! Mario, Zelda, Mario kart, splatoon, Xenoblade and smash all this year? What heavy hitter would they have for the next years?
Hopefully a new IP.
did you forget both their handheld and console teams become one.......in the past in 1 year there would be 8 to 10 games for 3ds with 4 to 5 for Wii U from Nintendo first party........with the teams together that is 12 to 15 games they could make for the Switch a year, so I would not worry
But what other 12 to 15 games? Nothing else compares with the IP's they would be releasing this year. It's like MS without Halo, Gears and forza.
"he mentioned that Nintendo has a philosophy of releasing their classic franchises on every new platform at least once." WHERE'S WIIU METROID?
so...metroid is not a classic ip ?
"Nintendo teases Smash Brothers", thats so sad and hilarious, I mean everyone knows how the game is going to be , just released the damn game Nintendo already poor Nintendo Switch players had nothing to play, ... oh wait they have Bomberman, 1 2 switch game, and Arms ?, man I forgot about those killer apps, sorry. :D
I'd prefer they launch VC soon with Melee, but I guess that is unlikely.
Xbox one needs new ips but i don't think nintendo does that much. Just make a new metroid, donkey kong, smash bros, and bring back some old franchises. That's all I need from nintendo.
Well the problem is that's all you specifically need, but that is not enough for users who don't care for those properties. They still need new properties to bring in new consumers Both MS and Nintendo need that. It's irrelevant if you personally want that or not but for a fact someone is not buying this system because of those properties, but otherwise would purchase it for an experience that was brand new.
"Let's be realistic...if you don't have interest in those properties, you really have no business buying a Nintendo console ever again" That's kind of my point, they cannot keep catering and alienating this to a specific demographic, the fact that anybody could make that decision based on preconceived notions is actually a bad thing. like it or not I did not know of horizon zero Dawn ,days gone or Knack or Spider-Man or Wild before the PlayStation 4 generation Just like some people could purchase the PlayStation 4 Gran Turismo, Killzone ,Infamous, Uncharted along with other long-term properties.... How is that actually relevant to the other new properties that I named? Nobody saying to not produce those properties simply that they need to actually producing new properties as well. How much did that help the Wii U? So what you're telling me is don't buy the switch or really any other Nintendo system in the future because it's just going to be more of the same? after they just sold 14 million do you honestly believe that the attitude they should be going into the future? Why are you arguing against brand new? Could we not have both? Both Concepts exist on the PlayStation. We just got Ratchet & Clank last year and we're getting Gran turismo this year but those two are irrelevant to Horizon and Days Gone I don't disagree that people buy Nintendo products because of their longevity in their historic properties but why exactly are you arguing for that to be the only reason to purchase them? 😂😂😂 How's that benefiting you? If anything that actually hurts them because people are able to make a decision to never purchased anything they make based on something they played maybe 15 years ago , you cannot say the same thing about the PlayStation series. ie you never played Horizon zero Dawn last generation or any generation before that. Smh Logic bud
you keep posting same negative nonsense on every Nintendo article, get some rest man, nothing you say is correct reason 3rd party did not come to Nintendo consoles is because Nintendo always outsell them, im pretty sure if you google or bing it you will hear from different 3rd party it is too much competition.......and if you used logic you would see that, have you ever look at sony million seller list ???? I bet no, even if you were to look at all the sales report from 3rd party and compare it to sony list of their million sellers, you would see 3rd party games sell more than 1st party games on Sony system......even if you did or did not trust VgChartz even their charts show the same thing. if you look at the top 10 best selling games on playstation system 8 out of 10 games on the list would be from 3rd party and usually Sony would take 7th spot or 8th spot or 9th spot or even 10 spot, while 3rd party take all the other top spots I do not understand how sony fans can be so blind to not see this......on a Nintendo console this do not happen.....Nintendo always take up most of the top 10 list and this is the true reason for not much 3rd party look at Wii for example, before Mario Kart Wii was bundle, it sold 32 million this was before Wii sold 100 million systems.....it took grand theft 2 systems the xbox 360 and ps3 just to reach those numbers and both consoles together sold around 120 million or more.......for sony to get close to that number.....Sony had to add up all the uncharted games and mind you they were bundle a lot, so imagine if the game was not bundle it would of sold way less bro numbers do not lie, look at sony million seller list, look at 3rd party million seller list.....and then come back to me, I do not conversate about opinions, I only like to hear facts here is something from Sony Ceo http://n4g.com/news/1543674... only 4 out of 10 playstation games make money you probably wonder I bring this up, because it goes back to everything I wrote above how 3rd party sell more on Sony systems, and with 3rd party more popular than sony 1st party games, it makes sony lose money because not all of their games bring back money like Nintendo games and this is why they always make a new IP because they could never hold people attention for a long time with a game franchise like Nintendo do with making every new game feel fresh I wrote this a while ago, last God of War did not sell well, and if the new one have the same issue, I have a feeling this will be the next game that Sony stop make.........Sony always do this with their games.......I am glad they let the developers finish resistance series for the ps3, they never making another one because it sold bad, but that is the only time I respect them, what they did to the Vita is same thing they do to their other games.......... you can ignore my post or write something back with facts which I would like, but please stop coming on Nintendo articles and stay on Sony articles, I ask this from the kindness of my heart, and you can thank me for educating you on Sony that most sony fans try to ignore
"like it or not I did not know of horizon zero Dawn ,days gone or Knack or Spider-Man or Wild before the PlayStation 4 generation" Spider-Man? Really? Spider-man games have been around for decades.
Never cared for Smash Bros, guess I was too old when it came out
I've loved Nintendo since I was a kid but the way they handle their numerous properties is mind boggling. If they just released proper core titles of their franchises at a. Irma like rats they would be making many fans happy but instead it's endless spinoffs of popular titles. Look what they have to pull from: Super mario Brothers Legend of Zelda Punch out Metroid F-zero Star fox Donkey Kong Kid Icarus Excite bike Animal crossing Pokémon 1080 snowboarding Eternal darkness (if they still own it) Earthbound Wave race And other as well. Just don't understand why they don't use these franchises more effectively. Arms should have been without a doubt a punch out game instead. Hopefully the success of breath of the wild will show Nintendo that if you make epic games they will get the credit they deserve. Don't just make cheap throw away titles with Pokémon in the name.
It'd be great if Nintendo released a GOTY version of this game
Looks like switch is literally wii u 2.0. With upgraded Wii u games. Speaking for myself I didn't want a better wii u or upgraded versions of the same games. and I didn't want anything 1 2 switch Was hoping for more eternal darkness or remember they showed a game for Wii they never came out. I think it was called crisis dsyt
I didnt own a wii u and i know alot didn't too so i will be happy to get ports for some games i wanted to play but didn't want to buy wii u ... Give me beyonetta 2 and mario world nintendo please
Super smash is easily my favourite nintendo game, but I could not imagine playing it with those controls. I remember wearing the hell out of my gamecube controllers, I don't think the switch could handle smash.
I don't see why they wouldn't add support for Gamecube controllers like they did on the Wii U.
People tend to forget that all these great wii u titles will be playable on a handheld and look better w the switch.. That is a marvel in itself.. Also, a lot of people passed on wii u so the smash hits (no pun intended) might all get ported.
It's a shame that I look forward to Smash Bros more so than any other Nintendo game and that I do not have a comparable other option on a different system. Smash Bros would be a system seller for me, and yet, PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale having a full fledged, fully realized and supported sequel may be enough for me to stop hanging on to the Smash Bros IP. I love the game and in this case exclusivity is hindering me because I do not intend to purchase a switch or a Wii u any time soon, if at all.
Sure. A port
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