L.A. Noire the Most Expensive Game in Development?

Edge writes: "Rockstar's crime thriller L.A. Noire "could be the biggest budget videogame in development anywhere in the world", according to Tom Crago, the CEO of Tantalus and the president of the Game Developers' Association of Australia.

"It would certainly... in terms of console titles, be in the top ten... L.A. Noire is a massive, massive project," Crago said at GC Asia 2008.

Earlier this year Rockstar producer Leslie Benzies estimated that GTA IV cost the company approximately $100 million to create, a figure which, if correct, would currently make it the most expensive game ever, topping the $70 million plus development budget for Sega's Dreamcast title Shenmue."

[sushipoop]

My god it would suck to see this game go multi-platform. That would only mean that the game has been downgraded to DVD status.

[Jamegohanssj5]

Pretty much sucks as you said.

TGSI

[Rick Astley]

Sad thing is that from the start their goal was to develop a huge, free roaming game, bigger than GTA and now, (if it goes multi-platform) we'll just have another GTA in our hands with horrible, unacceptable graphics.

[Thoas]

Very true

[Gam71]

"we'll just have another GTA in our hands with horrible, unacceptable graphics."

I don't think the ps3 development with hinder this game much so that might not be the case if we're all lucky

[Andras84]

360 owners can get a 5 disc game with loading times between areas!! That's a solution right there!!

I had to change disc's when I played MGS1 on PS1. Not a big deal.

[Rick Astley]

So 360 development, you mean. Rockstar had enough trouble as it is trying to fit the game on a single DVD. http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

That's why the next GTA will be PS3 exclusive, as stated by Sam Houser himself.

[Xelai]

Whooa... Seriously those guys apart from releasing a crappy game, not being able to fit 7Gb of game in a 9Gb disc must suck!!!

[Andras84]

Can't argue against that!!!

[Shadow Flare]

actually i'd love it if it went multiplatform but only if they solely develop it for the ps3 and utilize it's advantages, and then somehow manage to port the thing over to 360 with the game on like 5 dvds. Sort of exactly like Final Fantasy XIII is being developed lol

RAAAAGE!!!

[zo6_lover27]

There is only roughly 7GB available on a 360 DVD, the other 2GB is security software

[MAR-TYR-DOM]

is at around 65 million USD last time i check!

[SixTwoTwo]

IIRC the Killzone 2 budget is somewhere in the 20-25mil range. There was a list a few months back that had the supposed budget numbers for various games and nobody came even remotely close to GTA IV's budget. I still don't understand how they could put so much money into GTA IV yet all we got... was GTA IV :/

[360 man]

i will be picking this up on xbox.... hahahaha

looooool

[Rick Astley]

The fact that your DOWNGRADE-BOX PLZFIXME is holding back developers from making games bigger than GTA IV is nothing to laugh about really. In fact, you should be ashamed of even being a 360 supporter. I guess poor kids that can't afford the only "next-gen" console out there really don't have a choice but to play constant flops on their RRODBOX. PS3's are for smart, wealthy gamers. 360's are for poor homosexuals that fail at life.

[Gam71]

You're right about the ps3 holding back development of games.

Look at gta.

Held back by dvd?

Any proof?

Anywhere it said that?

Thats why it had a higher res and better framerate on the 360?

If anything its held back by blu-ray.
Hows the mandatory install just to get it to compete with the 360 version?
Oh you'll bring up pop ups but thats not down to dvd. And with a hdd install on ps3 how much pop up would that have?
So much for the power of the ps3.

Now with this dashboard update coming up i'll be able to CHOOSE to install to the hdd and get rid off the pop.

What will your excuse be then?
I'm sure you'll find something to cry about.

Hey rick the way gta is lower res on the ps3?
And they took that comment back a few days later saying you would hardly notice the difference.

Guess you're still bitter about gta on the ps3

[Rick Astley]

I'm looking at GTA and all I see is a terrible looking multi-platform game that could have been more as a PS3 exclusive but was held back by the 360's DVD player.

The next GTA will not be possible on 360 due to DVD. http://www.1up.com/do/featu...
Rage will look worse on 360 due to compression (DVD). http://www.n4g.com/News-177...

[zo6_lover27]

Bluray = more content

DVD = less content

Mandatory installs don't make a game any less enjoyable

I would also like to put it out there that sandbox games, such as GTA and L.A. Noire are nearly impossible to do on multiple disks

[Gam71]

More content if there's more content to the game.

Just because it holds 50GB doesn't mean the game size is 50GB.

It needs that extra space to store the same information over and over again to help with search and read speeds that are slower on the blu-ray and cause an impact on the game.

Both formats have problems but as games are still easily in the dvd9 range its hardly an issue.

Disc swap or install. I've never had a problem with disc swap in the past so why start now?

And before you get onto next gen feature wasn't rumble last gen for you all and not necessary?

I would agree about your point on sandbox and multiple disc.
It is pos but would need any 360 owner who buys it to have a hdd.

I would say given how sandbox games have to be detailed in its area and the characters around and still run smoothly I don't see them taking more space than a dvd9 for a while.

edit

i would agree with your comment about uncompressed data but it is also true about having to store the same data over and over again.

Also compressed doesn't mean it will look bad.

[zo6_lover27]

I agree with your comment for the most part except this

"More content if there's more content to the game.

Just because it holds 50GB doesn't mean the game size is 50GB.

It needs that extra space to store the same information over and over again to help with search and read speeds that are slower on the blu-ray and cause an impact on the game."

It doesn't need more space to store the same amount of data, its just that ps3 versions of games are uncompressed while 360 versions are.
360 versions have to run decompression software, ps3 versions don't

[Shaka2K6]

R* needs the exclusive power of the Cell and Blu-ray to really create what they want without limits found on the last gen. xbox 180, it already happend with GTA4 im sure R* will not want to create games for this pathetic console ever again.

[Xi]

because of development for the cell.

[Rick Astley]

That's funny. They started developing this game on the PS3 first. It's old news that L.A. Noire was (don't know if it still is, nothing's confirmed) PS3 exclusive.

It'll be the 360's DVD limit that will be holding back Team Bondi from making a truly huge game.

[Xi]

I just don't want this game delayed for PC because of ps3 development, like gta4 for the 360 was delayed because of ps3 development. (not to mention, had to be toned down, since the ps3 version ran at a lower resolution)

[TUFFnNYC]

You got to be kidding right? And the 360 was a saint while R* was developing GTA4. You must love those minor pop ins during gameplay as well. Be real bro. The 360 had problems as well. Do some research before you post.

Enjoy: http://news.filefront.com/r...

Both had equal problems.

[Rick Astley]

He won't bother doing any research. He didn't even know L.A. Noire was PS3 exclusive before he made that moronic comment lol. Or maybe he did but still he decided to prove to us how stupid a person can be.

Are you in denial about Sam (or was it Dan?) Houser claiming that the next GTA will be PS3 exclusive unless Microsoft finds a bigger storage solution on the 360? Do you honestly believe that GTA IV wasn't downgraded to fit on DVD?

360 fanboys are too funny. :)

http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

Please take your time machine back to the last generation (don't forget to bring that DVD player with you) and stop ruining the "next-gen" experience for others.

[Xi]

I try to make comments that are relevent to what will be posted later on. Everyone of the ps3 defence force will come in here spewing BS about how the xbox dvd limited the ps3 version of GTA, and will do the same, guess what. THIS IS BULL, any cuts made to game size, was due to funding and time constraints, not due to technology. If you think otherwise you are clearly a fanboy.

Neither versions of the game were compromised for either console, however this site requires some balance of 360 bs vs ps3 bs, and I'll willing stand up for the challenge. So get you head out of your ass and untwist your panties.

As for this title, I am very excited for it and to hear people bash it because they love sony(of which I personally own 6k in stocks) and will follow them with blind allegience off a cliff ticks me off. Case and point, mr negativity and cahill.

tuffin, I'll play your game
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...
http://www.mtv.com/news/art...
http://game-on-game.com/gta...

there you go, proof that the ps3 version delays were due to the ps3, that the 360 version ran at a higher resolution, happy you little fanboy, as for your quote, mind giving me some pretext where it came from? OH RIGHT, OFFICIAL PLAYSTATION MAGAZINE, bias much?

[TUFFnNYC]

If u can find proof that time constraints and funding was the cause then please show it. If not then stop assuming. I posted an article backing myself up. And you? How does this sound. MGS4 on 360. Couldnt happen. Why? Technology seems to be of big concern.

[CrazzyMan]

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[DiabloRising]

Xi. You care way too much about what fanboys of either console think. It's just a website. If you feel personally butthurt, or the need to defend a CONSOLE'S "integrity" because someone else doesn't like it, or is spreading lies, or w/e, you have more serious problems. Go enjoy gaming and life, and don't stress yourself out over a FORUM.

That goes for everyone.

[TUFFnNYC]

Imma go ahead and say it. The title not only deserves to be on the PS3 but if R* wants to push the limits, it NEEDS to be on the PS3. I believe that once this game is created as a PS3 exclusive, the cell will once again prove itself just like Uncharted and MSG4.

[KiddyBrownTurd]

are u already as braindead as the dog in your av?

[MrNegativity]

IF IT GOES TO XBOX IM NOT EVEN GONNA BUY IT. THEY COULD JUST STOP MAKING IT. IM TIRED OF SONY SELLING EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS. DOES XBOX SELL THEIR RIGHTS? NO. BIOSHOCK IS GAY SO DONT COUNT THAT.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You are Mr. Negativity.

Bioshock was incredible. I have the PC version.

Sony doesn't sell rights; Microsoft buys rights.

[MrNegativity]

either way its SOLD.

[DJ]

If a game is a exclusive to a platform, it usually means that the developer chose to do so on their own. Selling exclusivity rights incurs the assumption that every title made on platform _____ is exclusive until the platform creator sells those rights? Thankfully, this business model doesn't exist.

[meepmoopmeep]

they should have just developed this for the iPhone exclusively

[Drekken]

haha thanks for the laugh!

[Thoas]

Think how big GTA IV would of been with 25GB to work with. Thats the reason why I dont own a Xbox 360 is because if I wanted to be limited to content I would of bought a more reliable system like a Gamecube.

[Rick Astley]

Better yet, a dual-layered disc (50 GB).

[zo6_lover27]

Or,
25 layer
500GB

[Drealmcc0y]

Anybody who thinks this will be exclusive to PS3 is being silly, 3rd party exclusives just dont exist these days. Look at FFXIII, DMC4, GTAIV etc

Rick: your right, that was an exception, from here on out they are going to be very rare

[Rick Astley]

You mean like MGS4?

Go back to Gaytrailers you pillow biting penis feaster.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Pff tell that to Kojima Productions,Level-5 and Digi-guys (wardevil)

All exclusive games to PS3.Plus..Rockstar has a contract(s) for exclusive(s) with Sony.And if this game is as massive as they say..chances are..this is one of those exclusives..

[zo6_lover27]

It was pretty much confirmed for the 360 in that article

And yes, MGS4 is one of the few 3rd party exclusives this gen

[heyheyhey]

PS3 3rd party exclusives - MGS4, Haze, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, Yakuza! Kenzan, Yakuza 3, Way of the Samurai 3, X-Edge, Full Auto 2, Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, FFv13, Ferrari Challenge (exclusive on HD systems), Naruto:UNS, WarDevil.. and many more

im sorry you were saying?

[ChrisGTR1]

this game was never ps3 exclusive. where are you people coming up with this BS?

[meepmoopmeep]

it was announced for the PS3 with no mention of the 360 back when.
that's where people got the assumption.

is there even any official news of it multiplat? just wondering.

[TheColbertinator]

Its on the freaking website.LA Noire was in development for "PS3 and next generation consoles"

[meepmoopmeep]

yeah, that's fairly new though.

it was announced waaaaaaay back like a year & a half a go.

[nombon]

it doesn't matter how good a games graphics are if the core game play sux, and it doesn't matter which system the game is on either. Plus i hate fanboys, especially those who keep supporting the PS3 as the best system. It might have the best hardware, but its still in last place in the console wars. Even xbox surpassed its sales in Japan and thats very sad :P

[badz149]

because you've conveniently skipped the fact that 360 released A YEAR earlier than PS3 and Wii to grab what? 2nd place currently? I bet Usain Bolt will admit it's hard to beat you in 100m sprint if you started from the 50m spot although he's the fastest running man on earth!

for you, PS3 being in 3rd place currently and is clearly closing the gap to the 360 with a year headstart is SUCK! so what is a 360 with a year headstart and being outsold by the Wii which was released around the same time with the PS3? think about that!

and for your information, 360 in japan still only sold around under 800k after 3 years and PS3 is already well over 2mil for quite some time now! so, still the PS3 suck? you hate fanboys? pfft! yeah right! yuo must hate yourself, aren't you?

[testerg35]

So first it was denial by the Sony fans that this would be multiplatform and now it moves on to blaming the 360. Same pattern over and over.

[Omega4]

Its obviously going to be multipltaform if that want to make some sort of profit

I dont see how rockstar spend so much money developing games compared to other companies, i mean what are they spending it all on

[heyheyhey]

*facepalm*

you never cease to surprise me with how stupid your comments can get.... what do they spend the money on?

HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED GTA4????????

if you did you would understand (or not, since your not very bright)

im not sure about what makes LA Noire so expensive, but it's very obvious why GTA4 was... marketing, production values (voice actors etc), city rendering, use of expensive engine tech etc etc

im guessing LA Noire follows the same sort of pattern

[Omega4]

When it comes to "development" bills i dont think marketing counts

As for production values there are other cheaper games which have much better production values and voice actors cant cost that much. If you look at Kingdom Hearts 2 it has an all star celebrity voice cast yet i doubt the game came to $100ml

The only thing i can think that cost a bunch was the tech, but $100ml is still too much for any game

So why dont YOU think about YOUR commemts a bit more rather than just attack me without properly justifing your points

[---------Nona-------]

I dont hear them complaining about the Development cost,so Microsoft must be footing the bill

[Xelai]

Why all posts end with same people doing same comments...

As I recall the PS2, the absolute champion of last gen, outlived its competitors and was technologically older by a wide margin and less advanced, but games, price, and Sony brand made it a hit.

Now all of a sudden tech power is the most important aspect, what happened here?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

The last generation was about experiencing new things and creating entirely new genres. This generation is about being able to innovative WITHIN the game, making a perfectly polished game, and running it smoothly.

[Xelai]

I hope you are ironic...

Polished games? Running perfectly? ehem...

New experiences WITHIN?

No comments.

[badz149]

last gen was about which console has the better games but this gen is already about which console give a better graphic at least between only 360 and PS3! last gen was about new franchises here and there but this gen is more about sequels or prequels! MGS4, GTAIV, DMC4, SC4, SFIV and so on...3rd party exclusives are almost dead and thus both consoles have same games! that's why the argument shifted to which one is the better tech and power instead of just games!

[kindi_boy]

Peace!

[badz149]

that's like a motivation for me to comment more! bubble for you too!

[Xelai]

I always thought the important issue was creating the best games for your platform, combining exisiting franchises with new IPs.

In my opinion, new IPs are always much more interesting than franchises, and more processing power, new communities, new interfacing options should help develop new games and new ideas, not old rehashes and tech demos son that people can flame about 3 poligons on the right and four on the left with no real interest in gameplay.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

WHAT HAPPENED???!!!

This was N-Gage exclusive!!!

[heyheyhey]

come on man, don't copy the good man's iPhone joke....

[pp]

Definite buy for my xbox360

[Covenant]

Which is why it will (likely) go multiplat...not because of disloyalty, or system capabilities, or any other reason...

$$$. Pure and simple.

Multiplat means a larger potential return on a ballooning budget.

Not saying it WILL happen...only that it probably will.

[lelo]

With cost so high, it would be stupid of them to go exclusive, unless they like losing money.

[beans]

Has anybody even seen any gameplay footage of this? I don't understand what all the hype is about because I sure as he11 haven't seen any thing on the title.

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

SO BUY IT FOR YOUR CRAP-BOX-3SH1TY!!!, who's stopping you, oh yeah how could i forget, its RROD isn't it?

[DA_SHREDDER]

Rockstar Australia has yet to prove themselves worthy of our praise right now. Have they ever made a good game in their life? Look at Rockstar, GTA4 was the worst in the series. If they could mess it up, then Im pretty sure some dudes from a 3rd world country cant do any better. But if they do, then great. I personally could care less for this game because Ill be playing real games by then. Uncharted 2, FF13, God of War 3, MAG, White Knight, and the new Team Ico game will probably be out before this one comes. I havent even seen footage of this game yet. Its probably just another Haze or Gears of War type of Flop.

[airheadluffy]

yea they better no make this another gta4. i dont want a game that will only last me 2 weeks.

[airheadluffy]

if they want to make money they might as well do it for the 360 and the wii.

[Enigma_2099]

... Well, I can't WAIT to see if it shows in the final product...

... oh, who am I kidding, it's multi-platform... OF COURSE IT WON'T!

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Im 110% skeptical of this game. I in no way shape or form will blame the 360 for how GTA4 turned out but Rockstar themselves, they really need to live up to A LOT with this game. I also wonder that if Rockstar is complaining about the sales of GTA4 not meeting their expectations cause of the budget of the game and that is across 2 systems. I've got a feeling Rockstar has wayyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyy too much riding on this game to be a success!

[KiddyBrownTurd]

can't wait to play the superior version on xbox 360