FallenAngel19843037d ago

"We thought the PSP and then the PS Vita would be able to deliver console-quality graphics in a handheld form, ironically, it looks like its the graphically power-shy Nintendo who are going to deliver the first true version of an on-the-go console."

PSP and Vita did deliver on those console quality games on the go promises. There were many games released on those platforms that had some parity with the PS2/Wii and PS3/360 versions respectively. Nintendo just seems to have finally given up on Gunpei Yokoi's time tested successful "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology" philosophy that has carried their handhelds to success over the past 28 years over the more powerful handhelds of the time and just made a powerful handheld of their own.

skydragoonityx3037d ago

The last primary console nintendo made was the 64

PeaSFor3037d ago

was too busy with my ps1, that say i still really liked my n64.

QUIMICOMORTAL3037d ago

Hell no! PS had a ton more games and more diversified.

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_-EDMIX-_3037d ago

Agreed the biggest problem I have with this assumption in such a stupid statement is that that's technically only relative to the console that released previously and technically speaking when the PSP released it was stronger than the PlayStation 2 in many areas.

All anyone has to do is look at comparisons of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep and Kingdom Hearts 2 or Grand Theft Auto Vice City versus Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories or even God of War 2 vs. God of War ghost of Sparta to actually see that the PSP very much had a console quality games.

Even if it was not one hundred percent 1.1 the same thing it was still in the ballpark of that platform and that's completely undeniable

As to why anybody would say such a thing is beyond me.

What's even stranger is there ignoring Games like World of Final Fantasy exist on PlayStation 4 and Playstation Vita.

What the switch is actually doing is no different than what PSP and Playstation Vita just previously did in regards to console quality titles.

I agree it's about time Nintendo just makes this powerful handheld on their own and move away from dedicated home console

Imalwaysright3037d ago

" PSP released it was stronger than the PlayStation 2 in many areas. "

What?! What areas?

"What's even stranger is there ignoring Games like World of Final Fantasy exist on PlayStation 4 and Playstation Vita"

https://www.youtube.com/wat... You mean this game? Really?!

"What the switch is actually doing is no different than what PSP and Playstation Vita just previously did in regards to console quality titles."

Show me any game with the budget that AAA home consoles games require on any of those handhelds like Breath of the Wild.

"I agree it's about time Nintendo just makes this powerful handheld on their own and move away from dedicated home console"

You can say whathever you want but the reality is that Nintendo isn't leaving the home console market http://wwg.com/2016/10/20/n...

Smokingunz3037d ago

Nah, nintendo has the money, resources, experience and the knowledge to make an on part or far superior powerful console than either Microsoft and Sony the real question is why don't they do it? If Nintendo actually listen to the gaming community they'll see that's what everybody wants but they're just stupid and stuck in there own ways.

My point is they could blow tne competing out of the water with a powerful machine if they wanted to. They did it before with the snes,gamecube and n64.

_-EDMIX-_3037d ago

@ima - "What?! What areas?"

https://www.google.com/amp/...

"Show me any game with the budget that AAA home consoles games require on any of those handhelds like Breath of the Wild"

???

What you're actually arguing about is not the concept of the quality of the title you're actually arguing about the time period in which the title is releasing , that's like saying if in 100 years we have a PlayStation Portable that has the quality of a PlayStation 20 that it would be the first time such a thing happened Will yes it would be the first time regarding the PlayStation 20 it would not be the first time a portable game has the quality of a previous console.

What I'm talking about is not the current , i'm not talking about the actuality of what the system is physically technically doing right now , I'm simply talking about the concept of a portable playing console quality games technically speaking breath of the wild is not the first time we've got such a level of quality in comparison to a handheld I'm not sure why you begin to speak literally on something that were talking about conceptually.

What I'm saying is it's not the first time we had a handheld that had the quality of a game that was a console game that released the generation prior or any format release the generation prior.

Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep or God of War ghost of Sparta or Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories when you look at some of these games they're nearly identical to their PlayStation 2 counterparts.

What I'm bringing up is the comparison to the level of console games at that. And time something like that has already been done I never said anything about a platform that has released right now that is equivalent to the switch in regards to the actual Hardware in a literal sense I'm simply saying conceptually such a thing has happened the previous generations with handhelds.

Ie were you not able to play Ocarina of Time on the 3DS? Mind you Mario 64 was running on the DS so I would even say that Zelda Ocarina of Time was feasible on the DS, I mean technically speaking when you're not playing Link to the Past remake on Gameboy Advance?

I never said anything regarding their being a handheld that is doing 100% exactly what the switch is doing down to the physical Hardware I'm simply saying the concept but what it's doing is actually not brand-new to the gaming industry.

You're trying to argue a point based on the actual Hardware literally and that's actually never what I stated as it sounds like an easy cop-out to try to move the narrative towards the direction that nobody ever brought up other than you.

"What the switch is actually doing is no different than what PSP and Playstation Vita just previously did in regards to console quality titles"

Nowhere does that state that the PSP is equivalent to the switch in regards to exact technical performance and I'm not entirely sure how any human being could read that and believe that's what that meant.

😂😂😂&# 128514;. Do you seriously have a reading comprehension problem? Did you seriously not understand I was referring to the concept of what we considered console quality for the time that that handheld released?

RosweeSon3037d ago

Vita done this pretty well they just didn't do any further games to show off the power, Uncharted. Killzone and even virtua tennis all looked just as good as the console versions.

Scatpants3037d ago

Is it really more powerful though? The graphics look like 360 level. If the Vita had been made today it would look the same.

QUIMICOMORTAL3037d ago

Very simple, no console without 3rd party can be a primary console.

PERIOD!

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PhoenixUp3037d ago

Switch is missing out on a lot more than just Netflix to make it most people's primary console of choice.

higgins783037d ago

Such as? Consider also both PS4/XB1 missing out on games available exclusively for the Switch is a BIG miss likewise.

zivtheawesome3037d ago

but for claiming that ps4 is missing nintendo exclusives, i can say the exact same thing to the switch. also i should add AAA support caused by weak hardware.

Aenea3037d ago

Besides the obvious PS/Xbox exclusives I'd say all the AAA multiplats that aren't on the Switch?

It will be an excellent secondary console though!

freshslicepizza3037d ago

@higgins
"Such as?"

such as? its called games. until nintendo can retain third party confidence they will continue to offer a secondary platform. when one system supports games in the hundreds over the course of 5 years while the others attain games in the amount of the thousands, its not going to cut it.

Goldby3037d ago

while being able to play Zelda on a console liek the ps4 or x1 would be nice, it isn't forcing me to go out and buy a Switch.

Zelda aint pulling me in enough to go waste 400$ on a tablet

stuna13037d ago

If someone already owns a Xbox or PS4 and buys a Switch how are they missing out on Switch's exclusives!? The question asked is can the Switch become your primary console!? For the most part most gamers even considering this question already own one or both of the aforementioned consoles and since the Switch hasn't released yet, the line of question is can the Switch become your primary console? To which I say no, and others are taking the same stance, because Xbox/PS4 are offering not only 1st party quality Exclusives, but also 2nd, 3rd and Independent party titles. Although Nintendo has wonderful 1st party exclusives, it's the 2nd, 3rd and Independent party titles that are in question when taking into account the outcome of the past few generation's concerning support given to Nintendo consoles.

Clunkyd3037d ago

Are you really downplaying PS4/XB1 lineup compared to the Switch? Look at Switch lineup again....there's nothing to look at. lol

Imalwaysright3037d ago

@ moldybread

To me EVERY console is a secundary platform. You being a PC gamer surely will understand why, right?

freshslicepizza3037d ago

Secondary to me yes, my main platform is the PC but both the PS4 and Xbox get enough support for console gamers to be considered a main system.

Imalwaysright3037d ago

But I have a PS4 and a Wii U. I am a console gamer and yet those 2 are secondary platforms to me.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3037d ago (Edited 3037d ago )

It could, but only time and games will tell.
Right now, my attention will still be split between it and my Wii U, since that's what I use for web browsing recently due to the game pad. Might also get a new game or two for PS3 soon, since there's lots of RPG's I never got for mine...

gbsrnctaln3037d ago

So you only have Nintendo systems? No PS or Xbox? If so...yikes, you are missing out on a LOT of games!

MrFisher213037d ago

I thought this same thing. Wow. You really limited your gaming experiences. I will own a Switch but it will be next to all of my other consoles.

Goldby3037d ago

read his comment he also has a ps3

wonderfulmonkeyman3037d ago (Edited 3037d ago )

*facepalm*
I have stated multiple times in the past that I both own and love a PS2 and PS3.
Just because neither are my primary doesn't mean I don't own them.
Hell, I said RIGHT THERE IN THE COMMENT YOU REPLIED TO that I was planning on getting a new game or two for my PS3!

And I KNOW that you've read prior statements from me where I've said I own Playstation systems. How many times do I have to state my love for games like Ar Tonelico, Ratchet&Clank, Kingdom Hearts, and many others before it sinks into your head that I'm a multiplatform gamer?XD

You are either blind, comprehension-impared, or one of the worst trolls I've ever met, to claim I don't own a system I just said I owned, and have admitted to owning, in your presence, multiple times in the past.XD

gbsrnctaln3037d ago

So....your only CURRENT GEN consoles are Nintendo... So you are indeed missing out on a buttload of games lol.

_-EDMIX-_3037d ago

Have you not seen his articles of excitement every single time some rumor comes out that some things possibly coming to the Wii U or the switch? Whats sad is it's very clear he has some sort of excitement towards these game

what's pathetic is that he has not purchased another platform to fill this void instead he's basically choosing to miss out by wanting to play these games.

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Antnee5343037d ago

It never can be my main, I'm a sony fan first through and through. Though this will be my main 2nd console I have always been a sucker for handheld consoles cause of my life style. Also because nintendo to me always makes better product than Microsoft but that's just an opinion.

demonicale3037d ago

Why give yourself the name of a "fan" thus limiting yourself. Does Sony pay you to be a butt kisser?.

deafdani3037d ago

I know it will become my primary console.

I own a Wii, PS3, Wii U and PS4, but they're all collecting dust simply because I'm a father of a 2 year old toddler so it's really, really hard to get some gaming time back at home.

Switch solves this issue for me, because I will be able to play it for a minimum of 1 hour daily at work, during lunchtime and right after work while I wait a bit for the traffic jams to clear up.

Sure, I could say the same about a 3DS or Vita, but those consoles are a bit lacking in the kind of games I want to play. They just aren't in the same level as the Switch. Screen size and resolution also play a big part on this.

This is why I'm so excited for the Switch and I'm getting it at launch.

deafdani3037d ago

Sorry, I realised that it sounded like I was downplaying the 3DS and Vita, and that wasn't my intention.

To make my point clearer, the Switch will, overall, have more of the kind of gaming experiences that I like. I have a 3DS, and have had it for years now (ambassador program and all that). Initially, I had a blast with it because of games like Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus Uprising, Resident Evil Revelations, Mario Kart 7, New Super Mario Bros 2, Ocarina of Time 3D, Zelda Link Between Worlds, along with a few indies that I enjoyed immensely there.

As you can see, I favor big games with direct action. 3DS nowadays is more about tactical games and turn-based RPG's and the like, just like the DS before it. For someone that loves these games, 3DS and Vita are awesome. Not for me. Because of this, I haven't really played my 3DS much in years now. I'm not a fan of Pokémon, Fire Emblem, and the like.

Switch, on the other hand, is launching with Zelda Breath of the Wild, and will get Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Mario Odyssey, Arms, etc. And we know it will eventually get a new Smash Bros, Mario Sports games, hopefully a new Metroid (they're way overdue already), etc... along with awesome indie content that I like. So I think I will probably appreciate it much more, and play it much more, than I ever did my 3DS. Simply put, it will have more games that fit my taste.

And again: screen size and resolution also play a big part on this. 3DS was nice when it launched, but after a few months, I upgraded to a 3DS XL... and it was great for a while, but it's looking really, really dated now. Heck, even the Wii U's gamepad screen looks very dated despite being the same exact size as the Switch's, because it's only 480p. The Switch screen, being 720p, will look pretty damn nice at that size, and will allow us to enjoy higher-end graphics than possible on 3DS or even Vita. Basically, Wii U-level graphics on the go, or better. This is a good thing.

blawren43037d ago

This exactly. the mobility and off tv play aspects are key for me as a parent and an adult.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer10h ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster300010h ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer10h ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger9h ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30008h ago(Edited 8h ago)

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole3h ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto10h ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing6910h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif8h ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing698h ago(Edited 8h ago)

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif7h ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot9h ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast9h ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts9h ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto8h ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos5h ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted6h ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast9h ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay8h ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted6h ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34855h ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK6h ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Nintendo Switch 2 review. Is it enough of an upgrade?

Two weeks in, Nintendo Switch 2 feels faster, smoother, and sturdier. But is it enough of an upgrade?

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anast9h ago

It doesn't matter. Nintendo plays by different rules. They are still reskinning games from the 80s.

Goodguy016h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Not at the moment for most. Good investment for huge Nintendo fans though. You can also expect much more greed from nintendo this gen as well as their confidence really grew from switch 1.
I mean dear God, botw at $70 and totk at $80 fow switch 2 editions. Old games lmao.