There's Already A Game Too Big For The Nintendo Switch's Built-In Memory

The Nintendo Switch costs $300, and includes all kinds of stuff in the box. Today is a good day to remember that it does not include a microSD card, which you are absolutely going to need if you want to take advantage of the luxuries of 2017 and buy your games digitally.

[porkChop]

It's two games, not one.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Good point, but it still stands that you'd be smart to get extra memory space regardless, if you're gonna go heavy into digital instead of physical.
Thankfully I'm not, but I'll be getting an extra card regardless simply because indies might change my mind.

[porkChop]

Aside from Snipperclips and some VC games, I'm going to be going all physical because they're carts. I'll buy a 128GB later on when I really need it. It's not a huge deal for me.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Or you would be smart to not even purchase the device at all if this is what it takes to get content on the device.

I don't see me purchasing much digital games on this device with the exception of a few.

I have no plans to spend even a penny more on this product outside of the actual system and physical games.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

@Ed
"Or you would be smart to not even purchase the device at all if this is what it takes to get content on the device."
Wow, thanks for proving you want it to fail, buddy.
You might as well forego your supposed purchase of it, with the way you talk; I'm sure there are plenty that will gladly take it in your place.

[Zeldafan64]

I got a 2 terabyte harddrive for the wii u and have only used about 60 gigs of it. Almost half of that came from 2 Ubisoft games. I think a 128 gig micro sd card will be more than enough for 80% of people buying the switch and at $40 who can really complain.

[bouzebbal]

Always being positive, lol smh...

[AZRoboto]

@wonderful

Maybe Nintendo shouldn't be pulling an Apple here after how they're selling a brand new next generation device with the same storage capacity as their last system that hit market almost five years ago and sold worse than even the Dreamcast...

With the confusing controller SKUs and system cost it's almost like they want it to fail. Not even a packed in game! And this is coming from someone getting it next Friday.

[Uken12]

@Edmix

You can still get an external hard drive. I got a lot out of my Wii U's 32gb of memory. i used it for classics from VC and some Indie games. But an SD card isn't really needed until you really need it, if you need it.

[bouzebbal]

Smart? i call that pigeon.
I could have many games and demo in Wii Us 32GB memory. Never been forced to delete anything.
This is laughable..

[_-EDMIX-_]

@wonder- no wonderful, I'm not spending extra money to take care of this company's own incompetence.
"Supposed purchase?" I own every Nintendo handheld and I own every Nintendo console with the exception of the Wii U.

Please get off your high horse and stop trying to pretend that every damn Nintendo fan is some sort of religious fanatic for this company.

When 190 million consumers decide that not purchased your Hardware that once purchased at the generation prior it's safe to assume that you might have a lot of ex-fans.

I'm not sure why you keep assuming everyone who criticizes this company doesn't own any of their Hardware.

I actually find it the majority of people that criticize this company are ones that own their Hardware previously.

Sorry buddy but I own a PC I own a PlayStation 4, a Nintendo switch is simply an option for a few games for me I don't need to go around begging and praying and crossing my fingers that someone supports this platform like you do

I could see you on a whole bunch of Articles literally begging in praising games that are just simply rumored to be in development for the switch lol

http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

Are you serious? I was only joking yet no and behold clicking on your damn name shows this? When did you ever show interest in this game? 😂😂😂
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Let's be honest how many games are you now missing? Are you literally just letting all these games pass you by because you're hoping that something changes in Nintendo and you get to play them?

Oh wow buddy, now it's all starting to make sense. Instead of Desperately begging maybe you should actually look to purchase a PlayStation 4 or gaming PC? You wouldn't need to keep doing this desperate articles....

Earn more bud, you want it need to be in that situation if you actually owned multiple platforms.

I don't need to beg for Final Fantasy 15 to be on this which I already purchased it day one on PlayStation 4 and I've already be in it...ive moved on bud.

The switch for me is literally only going to be used for animal crossing , shin Megami tensei 5 , Bravely 3....

Were as it sounds like you are gambling that everything you've missed on competitor platforms will magically make their way on the switch LMFAO!

Good luck waiting buddy

I'm not waiting for bravely the third to hit PlayStation platforms even though square is actually stated they have plans to bring the Bravely Default series to other platforms , I simply purchase the platform it exists on.

Your out here missing just an absolute flood of games and praying that some of them trickle on the switch lol

@uken- well I'm going to be using this as a portable I'm not going to be hooking up any damn externals to this cuz I don't even plan to purchase that many digital games for it in the first place.

I just don't play enough Nintendo games that actually Justified upgrading the storage space to what device like this.

Anything that I can get on PC or PlayStation 4 I'm just going to get on those platforms and I only purchase to switch to play specific titles only found on that platform mind um only purchasing them as a physical.

Again.... I'm not spending a single cent over the damn price of the device for a bunch of crap add-ons.

[MyDietEqualsGames]

They really should have put 100 gigs in there, at the very least. I'll excuse the paltry storage size since it is also a mobile gaming machine, though, even 64 gigs would have been O.K too.
One of the things I keep forgetting about Switch is that it is also a mobile device at heart. It's doing some awesome stuff for what it is.

[curtis92]

A good 128gb micro sd card is $39 on Amazon. it's not like people going digital (like me) are somehow screwed.

[JasonKCK]

_-EDMIX-_ you sound like you're begging people not to buy it, and pushing another agenda.

[mahmoods26]

No It's one game. Dragon Quest Heroes is going to require 32GB of space.

[porkChop]

It's a set of 1 and 2, is it not?

[ziggurcat]

"It's two games, not one."

not sure how that makes it any better, though. in this day, and age, the damned thing should have a minimum 1TB HDD, not 32GB flash memory.

[porkChop]

It's a handheld. You can't use an HDD on a handheld.

[ziggurcat]

it's marketed as a home console:

http://www.polygon.com/2016...

[DivoJones]

I think it's more the point that it was perceived to be an issue and already is before the console has even launched. I've had patches for XB1/PS4 games that are bigger than the entire built-in storage of Switch. Rather than do anything about the problem, they passed the cost of adding storage on to you.. how considerate.

SDHC cards are cheap you say? Then why couldn't they buy them in bulk for a huge discount and integrate them into the system.. and give you a SECOND slot to add storage. Oh right, because they don't need to when they can let you buy it for them. It's not an oversight or a shortcoming, it's a feature!

[FBNS]

No, one game. Dragon quest heroes takes up 32 gigs...which is more than you have access to .... So if you're going digital only and you want to get Dragon quest heroes, you must first buy a 64gig or larger micro sd card... Sad!

[superchiller]

Wow that's pretty sad. Nintendo cut corners on the Wii U internal storage (only 32gb, with about 25gb usable), and they've done the exact same thing with the Switch. 25gb of usable space is really a joke for a console released in 2017. And what's worse, many physical Switch games are going to require downloaded patches that can only be stored on either internal memory or an SD card, not on the cartridge itself. This includes Zelda, which will require at least 3gb if space.

And at launch the Switch doesn't support external hard drives on the dock.

Looks like Nintendo didn't plan this out very well, they really could have done a better job on the design.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Physical games don't install meaning.
One can have 25GB not used for years.

[Vegamyster]

teamlitt99

?????

[porkChop]

The 3GB install for Zelda is only on the Wii U.

But this isn't a new concept. Both 3DS and Vita required you to buy a memory card if you wanted to download games. Hell, you couldn't even save your physical games on Vita without a memory card.

[gedden7]

You do not have to install ANYTHING ON THE SWITCH...

[hulk_bash1987]

@gedden7, so any future firmware/system updates are gonna be installed where?

[neoandrew]

System updates will be replacing that locked rest of 32 gb space, locked for system use, that is not the problem at all, the problem is, game updates, lets face it, pc, ps4, xone, all games on this platforms needs day one patches and then some, sometimes it is below 1gb in total for the whole game life, but sometime it is 3gb or even more. I don't see how switch games would not need patches, some miracle devs will make those games and never have to update something?

They most probably will and those patches will be INSTALLED on that tiny 25gb, add some digital games on top of it and this is really small. And don't forget DLCs!!!

So small that they should sell at minimum 64gb build in storage version, 32gb is just a sad joke.

SO YEA YOU HAVE TO INSTALL UPDATES ON SWITCH

[Taero]

And the Vita fared so well commercially...(and I say that owning one, the memory card prices still pissed me off and didn't help it sales wise).

[ziggurcat]

@gedden7:

"You do not have to install ANYTHING ON THE SWITCH..."

DLC.

http://www.polygon.com/2017...

[Neonridr]

how much internal storage did the Vita or 3DS have just out of curiosity? I am completely confident that external HD support will be there again like it was with the Wii U. I have a spare 500GB HD just kicking around from my Wii U that I can use for my Switch.

Otherwise I will buy a memory card. But since all my purchases are going to be primarily physical with zero to little install space required, it's a non-issue.

Even if you go physical with the PS4/XB1 you will eventually run out of space unless you constantly delete games.

[RosweeSon]

External hard drive for when your out on the go? No thanks. Micro Sd Card inserted inside no extra boxes no extra cables no extra bulk... no Dramas. ✌🏻🤓

[The_Sage]

I simply installed a 2 terabyte hard drive.

Disagree if you will, but the fact remains that I did install a 2 terabyte hard drive.

I believe that many people on this site are not smart enough to realize that it's agree or disagree, not up or down voting. Poor silly idiots.

[RosweeSon]

Yeah I have a 2TB PS4 and sure it fills up but that's because every game even physical discs take up 40-60gb+ mandatory install. Zelda is what 13gb no mandatory installs on switch, physical game as it'll hold its value micro sd for the future. Look at 3ds you can get by with a 8-16gb easily I've got 32gb I've got a couple of full sized games smash bros animal crossing (free) one of the laytons. Luigis mansion, Zelda between worlds. Majoras mask. 20 ambassador games countless VC over GB/GBC/NES/SNES and game gear 3d classics. Plenty of space left... why because Nintendo have heard of compressing their data. Just get your big games like Pokemon etc as physical go digital on the rest. ✌🏻

[nitus10]

The XB1 already has external drive support and the PS4 will have this feature fairly soon. That said you still have to purchase an external drive or in the case of the PS4 a larger internal drive and in all cases this is optional.

For games to run properly on either the PS4 or XB1 they have to be installed on internal or external drives since no game will run directly off the install media which in this case is a Bluray disk.

The Switch like the N64 going backward can play games directly from the cartridge or in the case of a digital download directly from where the game is installed be its internal storage (32GB) or microsSD storage which (of course) you will have to pay for.

It is not difficult to go into the pros and cons of the PS4, XB1 and the Switch but like it or not the Switch is a portable device that really will require cartridges or microSD card to remain portable. As per performance of the actual storage media, the basic 5400rpm HDD of both the PS4 and XB1 is about 100MB/sec which is not all that different to the performance of a high-quality microSD card which terms of cost per GB is much more expensive than an HDD or SSD for that matter.

Overall it will be cheaper in te long term to consider getting most games for the switch on a cartridge but (you can easily check this out now) you are going to be paying more for a game on a cartridge than a game that comes out on a Bluray disk.

Note: You can get cheap microSD cards but performance wise they are much less than a standard HDD. Even top of the range microSD cards which can be very expensive can't compare in performance and cost per GB to standard SSD's which both the PS4 and XB1 can take. Don't believe me then check out the following: https://havecamerawilltrave...

[WPX]

Even so, if you need space, you can get 128GB cards for as low as 40 bucks right now. Good quality too.

[Neonridr]

@The_Sage - yeah I put a 2TB in my base PS4, then when I got my Pro swapped the 1TB from that into the base PS4, sold it, and kept the 2TB for my Pro. But still, that's an additional purchase. So being upset that the Switch will need external memory eventually is no different than a base PS4 / XB1 requiring either a larger internal drive (PS4) or an additional external drive.

@RosweeSon - I am expecting HD support for when it is docked. You will be able to manage the storage on the Switch from there and swap games around as you see fit. Definitely not on the go :P

[RosweeSon]

Except for barely £10-15 you can make that 128gb on top of the original 32gb (25 useable Zzz, standard) micro sd cards are dirt cheap and hey if it's gonna take up all that space maybe just grab the physical. Just a thought.

[DarXyde]

Oh, boy....

You don't install the games if you buy physical. This is only an issue if you go digital, which I discourage for 2 reasons:

1. The internal storage pretty much says it should only be used for apps, indies, VC games, or, if you're desperate, a rare game you cannot find....pretty much the case with 3DS.

2. The network, likely to be in an infantile state for a while, would likely struggle to deal with everyone and their mother trying to download large files.

The decision to use cartridges means games won't really need to load (so there's no need to install to reduce wear and tear on the drive). And the games save to the cartridge. In principle, you will never need to invest in extra memory provided you download conservatively.

[RosweeSon]

But it's peanuts anyway people moaned at 32gb Vita cards being £60/80 yet 128Gb for barely £10/15 and still people are moaning. It's that age old thing of don't knock it until you tried it I suppose let's face it no one has. A very select few anyway can't wait to actually get mine and listen to all the good stuff I'm sure it won't be to everyone's taste but what is.

[superchiller]

@ DarXyde - "You don't install the games if you buy physical."

So there won't be any digital-only games released for the Switch (like there are for all recent consoles, including the Wii U)? No DLC for any games (Zelda will have it)? No patches for any games (like Mario Kart and Splatoon for the Wii U)?

There certainly will be digital-only Switch games. There will also be DLC and patches.

Think about what you're going to say before you post, your comment is not correct at all.

[DarXyde]

Superchiller,

Did you miss the part where I said you should use the space for digital indies, vc games, etc.? Because I said that.

But even then, you will likely need to upgrade the storage. And honestly, who cares? You think 500GB was enough space for the PS4 or Xbox One? They might be if you didn't need to install EVERY GAME. But you do, which is not the case with Switch. I have 2TB in my PS4 and I'm still sweating bullets.

Games are just insanely large and need patches now, but I would consider the use of SD cards pretty merciful since it's cheap and you probably won't be expanding too much.

[smashman98]

Expandable storage is super cheap and easy to find i got combine that with the fact that physical media requires no installation id say 25 gb is more than enough for a few smaller digital titles and a buncha saves

[JackBNimble]

My wife wanted a switch... Thank God she can reason and I talked her out of it.

[Aquietguy]

How do you asses a harddrive connected to the dock while playing undocked?

[wheresmymonkey]

The 3gb install is for the WiiU version of Zelda not the Swtch one.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Buy physical then. There no installs.

[superchiller]

So where will the game patches be installed for those physical games? Or the DLC?

Right, those will have to be installed on the internal storage or the SD card. Nothing is going to be installed on the physical game cartridge, even game saves have to be stored elsewhere.

And please don't try to claim that all Nintendo games are released as complete packages with no patches or DLC, we all know that is false.

[Neonridr]

so Zelda is 13GB. Honestly how big do you think the DLC would be for that? A couple of GB at most?

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Compared to installs, the amount most of those DLC's will take up will be tiny by comparison.
You're seriously just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

sorry but Switch is mostly going to be Japanese games.
Patches and DLC for those games don't even go over 1GB.

They arent western games. They know how to compress.

[RosweeSon]

They not gonna have 20gb patches like halo collection tho and if they do it'll make me seriously wonder what I was buying day one. Nintendo games Very VERY rarely get patches sure Pokemon, Mario Kart, Smash, Splatoon... all online games with online features sure they need minor updates, Nintendo get it Right the first time. Quality testing is second to none hence why you'll very rarely get a patch for a Nintendo game unless it's an online game and it's had a new map added or something. Not everybody rushes their games out unfinished or broken and then try their best to get the band aids out and salvage a turd.

[Goldby]

@OtakuDJK1NG-Rory

MGSV for X1 has total patch size of 4gbs,
Final Fantasy 15 has over 10gbs of patches already. 8gb on day one alone

[Rippcity]

Superchiller, you're right and everyone else in this thread is a fucking idiot. They are gonna miss out on so many indie opportunities that every other console will get. Basically guarantees a lack of games. Getting BotW on my Wii U and then I'm never buying another piece of Nintendo garbage ever again.

[Segata]

The Switch supports 2TB SD cards. Something that doesn't even exist yet but they put it in for good measure. It uses standard mini SD cards so it's not like it will have the issue Vita had. C'mon everyone has SD cards laying around the house anymore.

[donman1]

Silly article and somewhat misleading. Why would I want to download 32(+)GB worth of game when that limits its resale value. A physical copy of the games like this is the way to go.

[PlayableGamez-]

A lot of people are moving to digital.
If you are not planning on trading the game in or collecting it, physical is pointless and actually inconvenient compared to digital.
On top of that, what about digital sales and what not? I mean most of my games now days are digital because of digital sales.
The only reason I personally buy physicals is because I get pre-order discounts from Amazon and some physical games have good deals. But that's about it. I don't trade-in anymore because it's rather a rip-off now days.

[gedden7]

Then if they want a Switch they better get used to going to a store and buying the actual game... Hmm go figure, something physical is important again... Shish these gamers now a days.

[PlayableGamez-]

It's pretty selfish to tell someone to get use to something because a fault of Nintendo. Lol.

[DarXter]

Nintendo have never really done digital sales though, as far as I remember.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Personally I love physicals, it's a habit leftover from until last year, when I got decent internet. I still prefer physicals, but I like having a collection to display.

[donman1]

Where is the stats to back up your claim that digital downloads of large AAA games are out pacing physical copies? I am all about popping in a game and instantly playing vs waiting for a large file to be downloaded.

[PlayableGamez-]

Wow a bunch of morons in this thread. First off, I NEVER made the claim that Digital Sales are out pacing physical, I said a lot of people are starting to move digital. That is factual.
Secondly, it you prefer physical, that is fine! But the fact does not change that people are slowly starting to buy all forms of media (including video games) digitally. It's a choice that I think gamers should have.
Lastly, some of you guys are stating that price in physical is better. I did say that physical media SOMETIMES have better deals than digital, but the other way can be argue.

Let's put all that aside okay. If Nintendo is planning on selling games digitally and DLC, 32 GB on system memory is not going to work.

[nunley33]

I would really disagree that physical is pointless, no collector actually buys digital,that defeats the purpose of it. If you're collector,physical is the only way to go. what's gonna happen to your precious digital games when nintendo shuts everything down and you can't get access to your digital games when their new hotness comes out and a system a few gens removed has its servers retired?

[jonivtec]

Just buy the physical game lol.It will be a nice feeling switching cartridge like the good old time:)Plus they are so tiny people can't complain its a pain to carry them.Personally i'm not seeing the internal memory a problem.

[Next_gen_2015]

I dont see what the big deal is. Many 500gb PS4/Xbox owners have resorted to buying extra memory hard-drives. I can only fit 5 games on my Ps4.

[jonivtec]

Good point :)

[Dan_scruggs]

Here is the difference people.

32GB PlayStation Vita Memory Card
$79.99

64GB microSDHC Card for Switch
$15.99

I love doing a reporters jobs for them.

[GameBoyColor]

here's a better kick in the ass to sony's fail, 128gb sdxc is $40

[nitus10]

Not quite as simple as just getting a cheap card you should also know what the performance of your card is. microSD cards can range from less than 25MB/sec reads to over 250MB/sec reads so if you don't get it right you may download a game on a cheap card that won't perform very well.

It seems that the Nintendo branded SD cards are more expensive however it would be a good idea to find out what the performance of those cards are and get an equivalent SD card for a better price. Just getting a cheap card is not a good idea.

[moegooner88]

Exactly, but even common sense still won't stop the rabid Nintendo blind fanboys from defending this crap from Nintendo.

[jaymacx]

Most of the cards people are talking about will do just fine. The problem will be if you have a really old cards with slower speeds. Most cards now are 45-80 Mbps..

[GameBoyColor]

GAME(S). Gotta stop the misinformation.

[masterfox]

"(Note that 2TB cards are not yet on the market, but Nintendo Switch will support them when they are.) " <--- oh how nice of them.

[JunMei]

I don't really care. Personally, I wish Sony and Microsoft would go small on internal space so I don't hage to pay their stupid price for their option. I've upgraded storage options on every console I've been able to.

[nitus10]

Tell that to the developers, not the distributors.

As an example, The Witcher 3 is about 51GB with the latest patch but if you install the two DLC's for the game the total size jumps to 70GB.

If you look at AAA games, in general, they can vary in size from 20GB upwards to 50GB and beyond especially if you add in DLC. Most second and third party games seem to be in the region of 8GB upwards to over 20GB with Indies ranging from a few hundred MB to over 15GB depending on the type of game.

[Asuka]

you mean internal storage, correct? not the same as memory. A lot of Switch articles getting this simple terminology mixed up, and yes it does matter when you are trying to inform your readers as it could lead to confusion with some readers leading into the wrong conclusion.

[Bronxs15]

What's the capacity of the switch cartridge??

[nitus10]

I would say the cartridges are 8GB, 16GB, 32GB and 64GB which would conform to what SD cards are today. Obviously, the developer when choosing a card to put a particular game on would choose the card that is a little bigger than the overall game size plus projected DLC and patches. The greater the capacity of the card chosen the more it is going to cost the developer.

[Bronxs15]

Wow. That combined with how current games are made with huge day one patches. I don't see switch being able to accommodate third party heavy hitting AAA tittles sadly :(

The storage capacity however seems well suited to Nintendo developed games.

Seems like nothing will change. Another Nintendo system with great first party tittles but third party support will be minimal at best. UNLESS of course third parties go the way of creating unique new and original ip and games for switch specifically.

That happened on Wii. They got dread space extraction in stead of dead space like ps360 did.

[InTheZoneAC]

Last I read they're 16gb

[superchiller]

Maximum is 64gb.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Highley disappointed in this news, i feel we are getting shafted on the memory especially if only 2 games fills the hard drive.

[Goldby]

disappointed even more that they are referring to memory in title yet speak of hard drive storage in article.

[Summons75]

Buy physical and no games fill the hard drive (minus eshop only indies and virtual console which are tiny games, to begin with).

[Featuring_Dante]

no patches? no dlc? no firmware updates? no system storage? i guess i'll buy all those physical.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

smh.

[acekaze]

They might not win on the home console race, but this is probably about to become the best handheld in the market

[gedden7]

So, you gamers are really too lazy to go and buy games? Lol I understand if it's hard for one to get to a game store BUT there's also Amazon Gamefly and whatever other service out there to ship games to u. You gamers do know you do not have to INSTALL the games right? SO WHY IS IT A ISSUE??? LOL.

[nitus10]

In the Switches case, you don't have to install the game if you purchase the game on a cartridge, however, you will need to insert that cartridge to play the game. Obviously, if you purchase a game via digital download you will need storage that the game can be downloaded to.

the PS4 and XB1 require you to install all games you purchase even if you purchase said games on Bluray media. It is also important to note that if you installed a game from Bluray you need to insert that Bluray disk for authentication to play that game. You don't need to do this with a digital download if the console is your primary console.

[joab777]

For $300 why would anyone expect more than 32gb of HD space? How much could it be, another $50 for some space? Hell, it's like an extra $50-$100 for 128gb of space on my iPhone!

All this whining about paying for a Pro controller ($70), microsd's, monthly online, a device to download the online chat app, docking stations to charge your equipment etc.

Great tech costs money. And in the end it'll only set ya back about $500, the price MS was asking for their Kinect 2.0 X1. But you will get to play Zelda in the bathroom for 6 months! Nuff said'

[InTheZoneAC]

Why would Nintendo offer more memory than an Nvidia shield when they're trying to profit day 1? That would require more R&D on their end, hurting day 1 profits. They could've easily gave us 128gb or more internal memory but this is Nintendo...

[Dragonopolis]

I thought the whole purpose of going the with the card route is so Nintendo and Gamers didn't have to worry about installing games..... The games where on the cards.... Main system's 32GB would only be there for game saves and DLC stuff etc.... Of course there is always the option of the SD card for online downloads/extension of main system drive.... Would be nice if Nintendo supported external USB drives for the base unit though.... options are always good.....

So if you buy Dragon Quest Hard Copy at the Store the 32 GB is already included on the card the game is with.... no install needed. Yes, It would have been nice if Nintendo would have allow the game card to have some form of writable or flash-able storage to keep all the game info organized and in one place and off the main system drive... After all, It seems to be common practice to add features/fix bugs/add content updates from game developer(s) / studio over the internet for their games...etc. It could appear disjointed to keep that all separate on the main system drive.....

Nintendo seems to be making things a little complex still for Nintendo fans probably for the sake of DRM or Security to appease investors or something, but I really don't see this as a big hurdle that can't be overcome......

[thejigisup]

And so, it begins. Now where the popcorn at?

[sinspirit]

I wish it had built in slots on the device to keep multiple game cartridges with the system(without a carrying case), whether they put the extra money and time into making these slots just for storing them or actually functional to be read on the system. Maybe with a new version later on.

[DJ]

Countless parents are going to return it saying it ran out of memory. Remember how fast the 20GB PS3s filled up? And that was before we started getting 5GB patches.

[nitus10]

I won't deny that parents with more money than sense are going to purchase the Switch for their children but looking at the Switch's adverts they are targeting young so called "on the go" adults rather than children.

[Einhander1971]

It's not bad at all how many have upgraded PS3, PS4 hard drives don't try and blow everything out
of proportion. Fair play this site is full of shit and hate for Nintendo call yourselves gamers. LOL

[Christopher]

Wait... you're comparing needing a HDD upgrade on other consoles because you installed too many games to installing a single game that is too big for the HDD on the Switch? I get there is some hate on Nintendo, but this isn't hate, this is a problem with Nintendo's decision to focus on selling memory cards rather than giving gamers what they need out of the gate. The same complaints that the Vita had, btw.

[CrimsonWing69]

Wow, just wow... oh wait a minute this is Nintendo we're talking about.

[iofhua]

I think most people will be wanting carts so they don't use SD storage.

That said you can get a 128gb microSDXC card with 80MB/s transfer rate for about $40, which isn't that bad. That's probably what I would get. You can get larger cards but I would want one with a good transfer rate if I was using it for games.

[InTheZoneAC]

I own a Wii u, barely gets played, but I still needed a USB drive to download all my games.

If the switch wants/is going to be a bigger success with more games worth downloading then I'm going to need more than 256+32gb internal.

I've been all digital since mid ps3, my 3ds xl, Vita, and ps4 are all digital. I want to go the same route for the switch if I ever decide to get one.

[iplay1up2]

This is not a big deal. The cards are small, Switch will support up to 2 TB cards (they do not even exist yet). So if you go physical its not like you have to carry around Blu Ray disks, You can use any brand SD cards, as I have read the switch ones are expensive. So get a 128gig sd card for $60 that would at least let you have a few games you have downloaded on the go.

[InTheZoneAC]

And how hard would it really be to give us SD support over microsd? It's like they really thought microsds were the best solution?

What they should do is offer memory card support in place of where the games go. I know that's proprietary, but at least we wouldn't be limited to the current 256gb microsds. In 2-3 years all digital owners will be deleting games

[raymantalk1]

the lack of ram will eventually be a prob when larger western games come to the switch.
also saying Japanese coders know how to compress is an insult all western/European coders know how too.
also the price is a bit high considering no game comes with it.
plus the UK TV campaign is absolutely awful.

[Mroc13]

Not a big deal when you think about it. There are usually less than 10 games actually worth buying for the life of any nintendo system anyways

[bluefox755]

I wish people didn't use memory and storage space interchangably

[ChickeyCantor]

The internal memory was never intended for this anyways. It's mostly just for os updates and what not

[Nodoze]

Ridiculous.

[DivineAssault]

Im not downloading games unless theyre from the virtual console an i dont already have them.. Carts only for me

[NohansenBoy]

No wonder Nintendo has a lower market cap than both Sony and MS. Have fun following in Sega's footsteps Nintendo.

[Featuring_Dante]

don't diss sega like that!

[Maxor]

Amazing ground breaking 30 fps console. RIP Sony and Microsoft.

[gedden7]

Yeah don't you hate it when you buy a system and it get the red rings of death, hard drive fails, dvd bluray drive fails.. Hmmmm... what a issue.

[Game4r]

Will Switch have an option to save data to the cloud like XB1 and PS4? Internal memory sounds troubling if my Switch dies

[Gwiz]

Well at least it's not like you have to buy Nintendo proprietary memory expansions.
We're at that point of memory being third-party.(well in most cases).

Edit: Holy ****,they actually have proprietary memory?. *facepalm* I wasn't even paying attention to the Switch.
No,just nooo,this proprietary memory crap needs to go.

[NotanotherReboot]

Who needs this happy meal toy when you have the PS4 Pro?

[Zarock]

Gr8 let the sheep spend even more money till they wake up and realize how ridiculous The switch Is.