How the PS4 Converted an Xbox Superfan: A Brief History of The Recent Console War

The internal deliberation over what platform to pre-order Mass Effect Andromeda on is what made me realize: PlayStation are pulling ahead in the console war of this generation.

[SpaceRanger]

"If the kinds of experiences presented by Until Dawn, Bloodborne and The Last Guardian were representative, then I wanted more."

This is exactly what I've always said. These games have such unique experiences that Xbox really can't compete with. I don't see any current or future Xbox games having such variety.

And with third party games playing better on the worlds most powerful console, PS4 Pro, and the second most powerful console, PS4, I don't see how people can use their hard earned money on anything else that gives them less for the same price.

[Overload]

If you don't have a PS4 in 2017, you're missing out and that's that.

[UltraNova]

Playstation is the default choice.

[Alexander1Nevermind]

See Nioh....See Horizon: Zero Dawn as recent examples. Its all about the games and the PS4 has them this gen.

[bouzebbal]

Gran Turismo, God of War, spiderman, Detroit, Dreams, NioH, Horizon, NieR,ff7 remake, Days gone, TLoU 2 are just a glimpse of that variety. Nothing can beat it.

[Eonjay]

Yes, but remember it is more about content and less about the brand itself. There are games on PlayStation thar I like and can'tget anywhere else. Thats the thing that really makes PlayStation essential.

[AcidDvl]

God of War, Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn, Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0, Yakuza 6, Uncharted 4, Last of Us Part II, Detroit Become Human, Ratchet and Clank, Days Gone, Gran Turismo Sports, Nioh, Death Stranding, Persona 5, MLB: The Show 17, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Wild, Driveclub, Infamous Second Son, Infamous First Light, Killzone Shadow Fall, Until Dawn, Bound, Unfinished Swan, Dreams, Crash Bandicoot Trilogy, Tearaway Unfolded, Entwined, Flower, LittleBigPlanet 3, Resogun, etc.... You still got the unannounced Sucker Punch's game

[XboxInnovation]

It's great to have all consoles and a PC, but I wouldn't say the PS4 is a must have like the Xbox 360 was in 2010. The Xbox 360 at that time made PS3 feel last gen. PS4 does not do that to the Xbox One. Actually people can argue the Xbox One makes the PS4 outdated when it comes to features.

[Deadpooled]

PS4FTW. Behold the king, the king of kings Bow down to the, bow down to the KING!!

[nwo4life4ever]

HHH sucks.

[Automatic79]

@SpaceRanger

The problem with your statement is that it is lopsided and comes off Bias.

Before you had unique experiences like Until Dawn, Blood Bourne, and the last Guardian.

Xbox had unique experiences like D4(Dark Dreams Don't Die), Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break.

As far as with third party playing better on PS4 that is debatable since Xbox Live is the superior service and has the most stable connection, plus framerates. I can't tell you how many times I would play a multiplat game on PS4 and the connection dropped out of the game. I mean I felt like it was PS2 days.

As far as most powerful, Xbox One S offered HDR and 4K first and I won't even talk about Scorpio since it's not available yet. However, based on early reports that are not coming out of the Sony Damage control camp, if you know anything about technology than you know that Scorpio is way more powerful. Have a good day sir.

[Mr Lahey]

Yeah, talk about bias..
😂

[MRMagoo123]

😂 you say he sounds biased then you rant in a biased manner yourself, nice try though /golfclap

"far as most powerful, Xbox One S offered HDR and 4K first" what has hdr and 4k video got to do with power ? 😂

"Xbox had unique experiences like D4(Dark Dreams Don't Die), Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break" The only unique about those games is they sucked.

"As far as with third party playing better on PS4 that is debatable since Xbox Live is the superior service and has the most stable connection, plus framerates. I can't tell you how many times I would play a multiplat game on PS4 and the connection dropped out of the game. I mean I felt like it was PS2 days. " This all seems to be down to you having sh!t Internet and xbone having better frames is a downright lie , a couple games so far through the whole gen have had 2 or 3 extra frames on the Xbox 99 percent of the multiplats have had better performance on ps4 and at a higher resolution.

You can't call someone biased when you fill a entire rant with lies and your own biased opinions. better luck next time lil guy😂

[fromchildren]

If Xbox one is that much more superior, why is it only selling like a few hundred units a week in Japan while 3ds and ps4 sells tens of thousands.

Why is it that multiplatform games sell more on the PS4?

If Xbox one had the better games, why aren't people supporting them?

[Zeke68]

I respect your opinion but for me PSN is stable as hell. You might wanna call your ISP tbh, because if you drop out you have a bad router or lousy ISP. Or you just might be unlucky living in a country/city that have crappy internet connection. But at least here in Sweden, PSN is stable 98% of the time. I pay for 100 Mbit up and down and I have 98/97 on my regular PS4 and 99/98 average on my Pro so..., call your ISP :)

[Dark_Knightmare2]

First off eurogamer isn't a Sony damage control camp lol and they stated that the power difference between Scorpio and pro won't be significant. I loved d4 but that was the only game out of the three you mentioned that was unique and what happened it sold like crap and we'll never get the story finished. You are one of the few people I see that still try to latch on to this live is better than psn crap like it's last gen and you laughably try to say it was like ps2 days well news flash that hasn't been true this gen it's pretty much parity between the two. The x1 s barely offers upscaled 4K let alone native and the pro is way more powerful than it so I don't know what point you were trying to make there. So you have a good day sir

[Liqu1d]

Coming from a guy that supports BGST. You're comment history proves you're biased as well.

[OB1Biker]

We are all somehow biased in our preferences. I actually disagree with all your points even the Scorpio bit because you saying you won't talk about it but still say it is way more powerful. The fact is it WILL be way more powerful like most future consoles hopefully but it won't play MEA day one that's for sure. Xb1s isn't particularly powerful ; I don't think you used the right word.
SpaceRanger point was the wide range of different games on offer I believe though I'm sure xbox has a few unique experiences too and glad you enjoy it.
I can't really compare with xbl but PSN is working fine and not sure what you mean about 'framerates'
Ultimately everyone is different and can enjoy any console, nothing wrong with that. Happy gaming everyone.

[JackBNimble]

Automatic
I agree that 1st party games between each console are subjective, but then you go one to say Xbox live is the superior more stable service.
That may have been true in the first few years of the ps3, but psn has evolved and the service is just as good if not better then Xbox live is now.

There is nothing superior about xboxlive in 2017... Nothing at all.

[TheCommentator]

To those defending Space Ranger, you guys are right to say that Automatic79 is bias as well. I am too. The difference is that the bias towards PS4 is accepted while any bias towards XB1 is made fun of by the likes of you guys. Seriously, none of you find any problem with Space Ranger starting the MS trolling with things like the, "world's most powerful console" comment (from MS' Scorpio reveal)? Or that they "play" better when they would really only look a little better? Or is it that you just prefer to ignore all that in order to troll anyone who continues to support MS? Either way you guys are just ridiculous, because you start all these pissing contests and get mad when we oblige by sharing our opinions.

Edit: The best place to play Andromeda will be on Scorpio if all you guys care about is the worlds most powerful console, with best looking graphics, on the best network.

[OB1Biker]

@TheCommentator
There's no trolling. In quoting 'the worlds most powerful console' or would you say Sony is trolling too? Because it's on every advert and has been for years. I know it sounds a bit funny to put it that way but nonetheless true
It's seems your the one who gets mad just for people stating facts.

[Sparta07]

@ auto & commentor, so you guys admit that a powerful console is important now?
I thought power don't matter.
First reviews matter now they dont.
Sales matter now they dont.
Exclusives matter now they dont.
Wait till titanfall comes out!!
Wait till halo comes out!!
Wait till xboxs comes out!!!
Wait till scorpio came out!!!
This is why we laugh at you guys!!!
Just let me know where to put the goal post, I'm tired of moving it back and forth with you guys...

Edit: @ commentor, the best place to play Mass Effect is on the PRO. The most powerful console out Right now!!!

[Razzer]

Damage control camp? That has been Xbox One for 4 years. lol....and you are one to talk about coming off as biased.

[OB1Biker]

One more thing : the best way to play MEA is ASAP :)

[ragnalamb]

Exclusive (and good) games were on playstation since PS2, nothing has really changed about that. Tecnology has always been on MS side (powerful xbox, easy to program for xbox 360 etc). But games will never compete with those from Sony. History is showing us that. And the way I see it, its Not gonna change for the years to come. Scorpio or not.

[ShadowKnight]

@Automatic

Sucks that we cant play Scalebound. Havea good day

[ShadowWolf712]

"As far as most powerful, Xbox One S offered HDR and 4K first"
HDR isn't available on all titles, even ones currently releasing, and the 4K is a simple upscaler that all 4K TVs have anyway. It's just to look good on the box.

"Xbox had unique experiences like D4(Dark Dreams Don't Die), Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break."
Ah yes, D4 which no one bought, SO which relatively few bought, and Quantum Break which... made you si through 20 minute "episode" cutscenes. And relatively few bought.

I'm seeing a pattern here.

[SpinalRemains138]

Lol

[GoodnessGreatness]

Sunset overdrive is good but not memorable. Quantum break is just straight garbage. Both online services run same but PS4 is faster and simpler. Talk about bias, all third party games run better on PS4 fool. 1080p>900p. Scorpio is irrelevant, powerful console with no good games to play. No thank you. Have a good day with your Xbox one.

[Doja]

I gave you a chance till you said sunset overdrive.

[XanderZane]

I'll play all the PS4 exclusives on the PS4 Pro and all the 3rd party multiplats on the Scorpio. If the Switch is a hit, I'll pick that up probably next year. Got all the basis covered.

[Markusb33]

Yet Scorpio is underpowered by pc standards ? What's your point ? I have a ps4 for a diverse library of games MS can have the most powerful plastic box it will never match the variety of games and exclusive content.

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

PSN and online multiplayer games run smooth as can be with no drop outs for me, like a hot knife through butter.

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

@Commentator

If the best place to play is on a future console, it would be on the next PlayStation then.

[SamTheGamer]

I can't stop laughing when you said Quantum break is a unique experience :D

[SamTheGamer]

I can't stop laughing after watching that Quantum break is a unique experience 😂😂😂
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[gums007]

Automatic79, Scorpio can be as powerful as it want but you still need games to play it. I own both an xbox one and ps4. Even though i really want xbox to succeed, ps4 exclusives are making my choice on which console i end up playing on most of the time.

[deno]

@SpaceRanger I agree on everything you said. Playstation 4 has a massive variety of quality games. Since I own both consoles I believe the media is a bit harsh on xbox one. I have Recore, Quantum Break, Halo 5, Rare Replay, Gears of War 4, Killer instinct, Sunset Overdrive. There's been quiet a few good games but Xbox One definitely needs more. I hope to see a vibrant healthy console generation for all 3 systems.

[Gustertote]

That's what it came down to for me: what system will best ensure I get maximum enjoyment during my free time?

The PS4.

[YAO-BLING]

good to see some of these xbox users are maturing and knowing who owns the gaming industry and who doesn't

[chrisx]

Every1 deserves to enjoy the Ps4 and the amazing exclusives it offers. if this super xboner could convert it just shows Sony is doing things right. You will never hear a story about a super Ps fan converting to the xbone

[mcstorm]

Tbh it depends on the person. I was a massive psx fan but for me I could not get into the ps2 I was happier with the Dreamcast and got a GameCube when the DC sales stopped. Next gen I owned all 3 but again my love for the ps3 was not there still had one but the 360 became my main console this gen so far nothing on the ps4 apart from UC4 makes me want it although there are a few games coming up for it that I want so will pick one up in the end but this gen I've enjoyed the wiiu the most although I did enjoy the last 12 months on the Xbox one being a big racing fan and getting forza 6 and horizon 3 were my go to games.

For me I don't see any console as being the out right best but what fits my needs the best.

I don't get why people have to have a dig at other consoles as they all have good and bad points but we should all get the console we want and enjoy the games we like and let others do the same.

[BlakHavoc]

This dude said he enjoyed the WiiU the most lol...👏🏼

[SpinalRemains138]

You're a rare bird. WiiU huh?

[mcstorm]

I did. I enjoyed the change from the PS and Xbox when the WiiU came out. Playing games like Mario 3d world, Super Smash bros, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Lego City and more has been a lot of fun and a nice change to what the other two offered in the 1st few years.

As I said its each to there own. No I cant get enough of Horizon 3 my game of 2016.

[Bigpappy]

Owww! A "Xbox Super fan" converted. Guess I have to through mine in the garbage. Never heard of him though, is he from Japan?

[Inzo]

Thats ok, he's probably never heard of you either.

[Major_Glitch]

No. You don't have to "through" your Xbox in the garbage. But maybe you should...I don't know...buy games for it. MS needs the sales.

[Bigpappy]

That's okay. I know you guys have my best interest at heart. But I am not a Super fan of any console or manufacturer. So I don't buy game because they "need the sales" or because of some popularity contest.

[AmUnRa]

Stop making a fool of your self

[stuna1]

At this point in the console generation it not a hard accomplishment to perform! Any normal gamer is going to go where the games are! Overlooking so called console loyalty crap. When you take into consideration that consoles are investments, it's logical to think that the majority are buying them for the longjivity of not only the hardware aspects, but even moreso the software aspects involved.

This is why in my opinion why we have cross-over gamers who invest in more than one specific console maker. Because there will always be lapses in what each console maker provides for their fanbases, but for gamers that know what Company is going to provide a more consistent and variation of choice it's also a reasonable assumption as to why other gamers don't invest in other consoles outside of their specific console.

Not to spite supporters of consoles outside of my preference, all I can say for me is the last 3 generations Sony has been the more consistent of the console maker for me and provides variation of choice.

[kayoss]

try telling that to some die hard fan who constantly spout "Playstation have no games" nonsense.

[Automatic79]

@Kayoss

To be honest, shots get fired at any point during the course of the year. For the last 6 months out of 2016, PS4 gamers had no games and were shouting out how great third party games were, or how great tech demos were after purchasing an expensive peripherial, mind you since launch Sony has had this problem, every single year. Now the narrative changes because they are getting a few games more than the competition that were delayed and the competition is releasing at a steady pace or preparing the big titles for a later release.

The sad part is that most gamers shouting for Joy on this website about PS4 are really not buying these games they hype up, for example Streetfighter, No Mans Sky(purchase and than returned due to disappointment), last Guardian, Gravity Rush, Kingdom hearts.

So while a few people on this website keep praising these titles the truth is the majority of Playstation gamers are purchasing Multiplatform games. Hence why Xbox gamers love Xbox we getting the best titles and if occasionally PS4 sends out 1 or 2 solid titles we have it as a back up console.

[Knushwood Butt]

Well, I own SFV, TLG, and GR2 out of those games you listed.

[Trez1234]

Automatic79 @ that's alot of nonsense. Last guardian sold almost 500k first week and only gears or war 4 had a better first week on xbox and I'm not making it up. Last six months of 2016 ? Dragon quest builders ( confirmed to have sold over 1 million worldwide), World of final fantasy, no man sky, King of fighters, the last guardian and I'm sure I've left some out.

Did you know that shadow of the colossus, ICo, Persona, kill switch, sly Cooper etc.. those games didn't sell millions but are very much part of the success of the ps2.

If you said that ps4 had no games that picked your interest then fair enough, but to say it had no game ( both retail and digital) it's a straight up lie and the ps4 or playstation as a whole isn't the console for you.

[Inzo]

@Automatic79

" For the last 6 months out of 2016, PS4 gamers had no games"

That is the biggest load of BS! Please, please, please for the love of gaming do your research before posting this nonsense again.

[Realms]

@Automatic79

Talk about nitpicking the reason people blast xbox fanboys for saying the PS4 had no games was because it simply wasn't true, in fact they had more games available than the xbox one but let's just disregard facts right. You say that PS4 fans don't buy games? Yes we don't buy bad games SFV was incomplete garbage, No Man's Sky was from an unproven independent developer that promised the moon and didn't deliver, Gravity Rush 2 was a sequel to a vita game and the last guardian had been in development hell. Yet Sony knowing some of those games were destine to sell far less than expected Sony still manage to continue to support those games.

Meanwhile MS is cancelling theirs say what you want but we all know which company supports gaming and which one doesn't. The 360 died a slow agonizing death because towards the end of it's life cycle MS was not supporting it meanwhile Sony was delivering The Last of Us, Nino Kuni and more again gamers aren't stupid one company is delivering on their promise like they always have and the other isn't it's as simple as that.

[Gardenia]

The games is what makes the console. The PS4 being the most powerful console doesn't mean much if it hadn't so much great exclusives

[Gamist2dot0]

" In some ways, it still feels like betrayal, ..."

You don't owe anyone with that excuse. Why limit yourself? You as a gamer you deserve to play the best games ever made... for life.

[Poseph]

and yet you get downvoted into oblivion when you say that you also like to play Xbox One or Nintendo

[Godmars290]

Probably because they're only talking about Xbox or Nintendo the platforms rather than the games offered on them.

[Silly gameAr]

I notice people mostly get downvoted when they complain about being picked on by big bad fanboys of the other consoles.

[Rimeskeem]

This is competition in business. If they believe another company is making better products then there is no point on staying with your current company unless there are other variables. It's common sense, there is no betrayal for a consumer in the market of competition.

[andrewsquall]

And are Microsoft going to refund him 11 years of Xbox Live that offered him NOTHING of value before they started giving him games with it in 2013?
Yeah, you are betraying nobody.

[Gustertote]

I feel I wasn't clear enough when making that point, but it was more that I was betraying a former version of myself who had poured hundreds if not thousands of hours into Xbox gaming, only to then swap over to the PS4.

I don't give a plop about Microsoft or Sony, just about how to best spend my free time.

[Sparta07]

PS4 is the best console to play on period!!! sony did a hell of a job this Gen.

[SpinalRemains138]

Yeah, it's not even debatable. It wasn't even debatable last year, and now with the PS4 literally hemorrhaging exclusives every month in 2017, it is more of a joke if one were to ask which console has the best experience.

[ILostMyMind]

Be wellcome!

[Phill-Spencer]

Great article! That's exactly why in each gen playstation consoles are a no brainer buy for me. You can rely on being provided with games of awesome variety and quality. Memorable games you will enjoy and even talk about years after you played them.

Imo no other console maker has the consistancy sony has showed since their very first console. In 4 gens i was never let down by their lineup. I have to say that even though i'm sucker for consoles in general (had all of them since snes except of x1) and espescially cherish nintendo because of nostalgia, resulting in an almost sure buy at one point because of their exclusives, for me playstation will probably(if they don't f* up big time) always be an early purchase, ofcourse day one if possible, because i know there will be a huge amount of already beloved franchises AND completely new games i will enjoy playing.

[yeahright2]

It's still the only console brand I buy on blind faith every gen since I first got a PS1. Every other I need to see at least 5 games I want to play before I buy the console.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Honestly my Xbox One has been collecting dust since I got a PS4 Pro. There isn't anything exciting on the XO at the moment to get me to JUMP back in. My copy of Gears 4 is still in the wrapper. Sure it's fantastic but I'm too busy trying to beat Transistor, Infamous, Ratchet, the Order, Gravity Rush etc. The last game I beat was TLG which was a masterpiece. Xbox is going to have to do more.

[Elda]

Glory!

[Bathyj]

Wow. Knowing you and your comment history I can honestly say I was not expecting that. And I am not here to rub it in your face and say you were wrong, we were right, everyone has a preference. Just glad you are able so see what PlayStation offers and realise the value of it. Welcome gamer.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I've been praising PS4 a ton least since last November. Good system.

[Mr Lahey]

Late to the PS table huh?
I can imagine you're one busy gamer! ;)
Sooo many great games!

[fromchildren]

relax, there is halo wars 2 and sea of thieves.

[DragonDDark]

/s

[Bathyj]

Well glad to see Guilty. I hope youre enjoying it. I got a pro after Christmas as well. Sold my PS4, used some Christmas money and vouchers so it actually cost me nothing. Free upgrade. But damn I wish I had a 4Ktv now. :)

Like I said below, I can understand if gamers want an XB I dont knock anyone for liking that console, but I cant understand if they DONT want a PS4 and put it down out of allegiance. Theres too much good stuff to ignore.

[yeahright2]

heh, gamestop had a deal going where they were offering $150 for an X1 and $175 for a PS4, that along with some X1 games I traded with the consoles got me a Pro for less than the price of a game.

[yeahright2]

Glad you're happy with all those. And I'm sure X1 will bring some games that'll have you booting it up again. Personally I've been a bit harsh on MS lately but that's mainly due to me feeling, not betrayed, but more forgotten by them. Like they just expect me to stick with them while the reasons to do so keep disappearing. Whether it be games I was excited for being let downs like quantum break, or games I was looking forward to getting cancelled like scalebound, or just plain nothing interesting on the horizon, I can't stand by Xbox like I used to. I've always been PS first, but had no ill will towards xbox, enjoyed it even. but for me the nail in the coffin was, being a PC gamer as well, they made my X1 redundant. with all their games available on PC, pretty much guaranteed to have better frame rates and resolution, plus potential mod support, why would I ever buy a game on xbox?

[KickSpinFilter]

TLG was amazing, but you should just rent The Order, worth a play but not to own.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Bought it for $4 on PSN

[REDGUM]

$5 says we see a " How the XBOX ONE Converted an PS4 Superfan: A Brief History of The Recent Console War" in the coming days!

[fromchildren]

Let me do that one:

Sticking with PlayStation gave me a big headache as there were always a ton of games releasing. I don't have time to play videogames anymore but if I see a new release I am always want to play them. So now I introduce you to my new best friend, the Xbox one S!

With the Xbox one, there are never too much games only too less games compared to the competition and the purchase is totally worth it! I see less games now so I am less tempted to buy them, it is a huge money saver!

Xbox one, buy believe!

[ShadowWolf712]

Don't forget to cite the importance of the UHD drive and how it's suicide not to have one. :p

[SpinalRemains138]

"I wanted to know that the superior online service would be there in case a game ever launched that would cause me to use it."

[majedx9]

MS mistakes:
-the do not know how to manage their money
-($50 million for GTA fuc*n *DLC deal)
-( $500 million kinect advertising)
-(Microsoft's $2.5 billion purchase of Mojang and Minecraft)

[mcstorm]

Depends how you look at it. I follow Microsoft for work and they had to pay 50 million to get the exclusive deal from Sony and that paid off the same with Kinect it was the best selling add-on ever. Went wrong 2nd time round but then move was not the best seller to.
As for buying mojang they did this for education have a read up on why ms picked the company and ip up.
If you want to talk about wasteing money in Microsoft Nokia was a bad deal that they should not of entered and should of gone down the surface phone rout but a it's not my £.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Mine craft purchase was a good move. They've already made that money back.

The other ones ...😑

[BlackTar187]

Exactly. They'd make that deal over and over again and twice on sundays

[BlackTar187]

i dunno why you would say Purchasing Minecraft is bad money

They will be getting paid on it for a very long time. They get paid on the legos the other toys the literature.

the other 2 sure but until I'm proven otherwise Minecraft is a good investment, you seriously couldn't go any grade school in the US and find people in decent #'s that don't know what it is.
They play it right and Minecraft could be a thing for the foreseeable future and beyond.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Merchandising alone is a billion dollar earner. And now Minecraft is going into classrooms.

[rainslacker]

The minecraft purchase will probably show returns for the long run. Wouldn't call it a bad purchase. Maybe unnecessary, but not bad business overall.

Kinect advertising did it's job, and it was a successful device during it's time. MS just failed to support it well for the long term, and they suffered from the fact that they thought that because of the success of the Kinect, that all those casual people they got to buy into the device, that they'd also be willing to take the plunge into a $500 next gen console.

GTA DLC deal was just stupid. It showed no appreciable gains, certainly not in the $50 million range.

[Mrveryodd]

How about some driving games for my ps4 ... Sony used to be the default for driving games ... What happened folks?

[Nineball2112]

I'm not into driving games really, but there are quite a few games in that genre for the PS4 just by doing a quick google search:

Project CARS
Driveclub
DiRT Rally
The Crew
Assetto Corsa
Gran Turismo 6
F1 2016
Need for Speed: Rivals

[KickSpinFilter]

Project CARS: Good
Driveclub: Great
DiRT Rally: Great
The Crew: Avoid
Assetto Corsa: ??
Gran Turismo 6: Avoid (ST Sport might be great?)
F1 2016 ??
Need for Speed: Rivals: Meh

[MRMagoo123]

well you tried to make something out of nothing I'll give you a C for effort, as you can see a simple Google search says your wrong.

[Mrveryodd]

Wrong .. How .. The only bloody decent racing game I can not get for my Xbox is drive club ... That's it ... Google it yourself .

Please show me a list of these driving games I haven't or can't get for my Xbox

[MRMagoo123]

"Please show me a list of these driving games I haven't or can't get for my Xbox"

show a list of driving games you can't get on ps4 that you can on Xbox that's not forza then 😂

[Mrveryodd]

That's my point ... Forza is a AAA racing game franchise that the ps4 has nothing to compete with as gt is not out and the console has been out for years ... So wtf are you saying exclude forza and the n give me that list... That's just stupid

[SpinalRemains138]

Why did you move the goalpost?

He makes a point. PS used to be the driving console, and now it isn't.

[MRMagoo123]

@spinal

I didn't move any goal posts, he said besides drive club what other racers are there , so I said besides forza what other racers are there. Or is that only OK if you're an xbone fanboy ?? 🤔😂

[BlackTar187]

can the only racing games you can't get on your ps4 be Forza?

Well you are comparing a yearly title to a system that doesn't have a yearly racer so if that's how you want to stack your argument then i guess you win.

[ShadowWolf712]

GT Sport's coming.

[Mrveryodd]

That I'm looking forward too

[MRMagoo123]

throwing tantrums when you're wrong doesn't help lil guy /pats head

[Mrveryodd]

Whatever mate ...

[Elda]

If you want unique diverse experiences playing a variety of first to third party exclusives practically releasing every month Playstation is the direction to go!

[LexHazard79]

Lmao! Ok..

[MRMagoo123]

poor lil guy , did this article hurt your xbone living feelings. It's actually a common occurrence that people go to Playstation, Xbox brings nothing to the table the ps4 doesn't and ps4 has more of everything the xbone does. cry more though cos that makes you look very mature😂

[Mrveryodd]

You are so full of it ... I'm no little guy ...oh and how mature do you look with that comment above .

[StarElite]

Jeeze calm down, it's not even a big deal.

[saint_seya]

LOL Mrveyodd you replied with the wrong account, guess you didnt hide it to well..

[MasterCornholio]

@Mr

He was talking to Lex not to you.

No idea why you assume that he was calling you a "little guy".

[Godmars290]

Would think the number of exclusives, plus the multis, had more to do with it...

[Kingcorey13]

I have always been a PlayStation guy. But I do understand why the 360 was so popular in its time. When the PS3 came out Xbox live was 100x better then psn. It had better looking games and more 3rd party deals. It was a good system. But PlayStation started pushing games that were incredible. Killzone2 still looks pretty damn good. Uncharted is still amazing... the list can go on.. it's about games with PlayStation and honestly that's all that matters. Sony owns some of the best game studios in the world. Sure Xbox has helped pave the way for online play and connectivity but exclusive games are more important imo. PlayStation is the best place for games and experiences, real emotions and memories that won't be forgotten are not rare with the PlayStation brand and that cannot be said about Xbox. Of course Xbox has awesome and nostalgic experiences just very little compared to PlayStation.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I think it was very easy to convert 360 owners simply because Microsoft paying for so many timeed games from Oblivion to Lost Planet to BioShock as well as having very slippery deals with titles like Mass Effect in which they didn't even want to purchase the intellectual property simply to save money which resulted in Electronic Arts scooping up BioWare along with the Mass Effect intellectual property something that Microsoft could have called their own.

So because of that lots of the top games for 360 or franchises that never even stayed on the platform enough to make any of its owners really feel like they should purchase the platform again ie XONE.

Bioshock Oblivion Mass Effect what have you may have gotten someone to purchase the 360 but clearly it's not getting anyone to purchase the Xbox One.

You could only really get away with that trick once Sony had the smarter business game plan by simply building up their infrastructure they made the experiences on that platform exclusive to them.

So if anyone wants to get a sequel to Killzone or inFAMOUS or the last of us or Uncharted or anything like that they only have one place to go to.

What people liked about PlayStation last generation for the most part will continue to exist during this generation on that platform.

that is very difficult to actually say about Microsoft if you consider lots of their initial users purchase the system for what they believed would be exclusive properties they could only find on that platform , once those properties go multi-platform what reason is there to purchase the Xbox in the future?

[fromchildren]

Below are just game releases in general, multiplats included

I made list of major games released on the Xbox one for January:
-Resident Evil 7

Yes, that's the list and it only has one major game...

Now compare that to PSVita(not PS4)'s major releases WW for January
-Fate/Extella(English ver)
-Atelier Shallie Plus(English ver)
-Danganronpa V3
-Valkyria Revolution
-Dynasty Warriors God seekers(English ver.)
-Drive girls
-Twin Star Exorcists
-And some minor visual novels

Now compare that to PS4 releases in WW for January
-Fate/Extella(English ver.)
-Hatsune Miku Project Diva Future tone(English ver.)
-Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD collection
-Danganronpa V3
-School Girls Zombie Hunter
-Gravity Rush 2
-Birthdays the Beginning
-Valkyria Revolution
-Yakusa 0(English ver.)
-The Last Guardian
-Tales of Berseria(English ver.)
-Resident Evil 7
-Digimon World: Next 0rder(English ver.)
-Dynasty Warriors: God Seekers(English ver.)

It get's better for the Xbox one in February(Incudes JP and NA releases):
-Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 Road to Boruto
-For Honor
-Sniper Elite 4
-Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII with Power-Up Kit
-Halo Wars 2
-Berzerk and the Band of the Hawk
-Sea of thieves????(not confirmed)

These are PS4 games for the same month WW February(Incudes JP and NA releases):
-Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII with Power-Up Kit
-Berzerk and the Band of the Hawk
-Four Goddesses Online: CYBER DIMENSION NEPTUNE
-Nioh
-MALICIOUS: Fallen
-For Honor
-Sniper Elite 4
-Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 Road to Boruto
-AKIBA’STRIP 2+A
-Super Robot Taisen V
-The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2
-NieR: Automata
-Horizon: Zero Dawn

March is also in favor of the PS4, especially here in the East.
Hope that explains why Xbox is barely shifting units outside of Western countries

[yeahright2]

Japanese games don't count. Neither do indies unless they're only on xbox. Also PSVR titles don't count. And Finally PS4 exclusives don't count. Your little list doesn't look so impressive now, does it?

[fromchildren]

Funnily Enough, that just makes things worse on the Xbox one, January Major release IS a Japanese game. And if Japanese games are not counted, there are no major releases in January for Xbone.

[Mr-Writer]

Agree with the author they both seem to have very different styles when it comes to exclusives.

One isn't better than the other, think both produce quality games, but I think PS exclusives hit a larger range of tastes as they seem to target a border pool of generes, from shooters to puzzles to horror.

Whilst some X1 exclusives are different they mostly produce shooters or racers.

[Bathyj]

This is a very good read and makes a lot of sense. Its not written with a fanboy attitude at all, but rather how a loyal xbox gamer slowly realised how MS has been failing their customers for a long time now and how Sony has scooped up the ball and ran with it, not that they ever werent. He even says how much he regrets not having a PS3 in its hayday which seems unfathomable to me, so much missed out on he will probably never catch up on.

I disagree with one thing in the article. "In some ways, it still feels like betrayal". Its no betrayal. We dont owe these companies anything out of a sworn allegiance. My loyalty is a flowing river. It bends, it changes shape. It moves. It is not a rock, set in stone, never wavering. Im very mindfull of the past. Those who dont observe history are doomed to repeat it, and Sony has not let me down once content wise for 4 generations running straight now and have built a lot of trust with me. But I would drop them in a New York minute if they were not delivering compelling games or if they tried to pull the stuff MS tried to pull. In fact even though PS2 was my sentimental favourite (based on the exclusives and fond memories of PSOne) I still purchased all my multiplats on Xbox OG and definitely supported the hell out of that console.

Before any Xbox gamers go on the defensive based on the title alone, read it and have a think and ask yourself this question. Do you prefer Xbox One right now because of your history with the platform, the years you enjoyed your XBox OG and X360? Or are you an XBOne gamer because of what theyve done for you lately? I suspect most would answer (if they answered honestly) the former, but our current consoles should be based on the latter. If youre happy with what theyre doing lately and your preference is not at all based on nostalgia, Im sorry, but I think you need to raise your standards, just like MS do. I think they would even admit what they are doing since XBOne launched is not doing a good enough job by you the customer. In fact their focus has been scattered since way back since Kinect first darkened our gaming lives. The first half of X360's life was chock full of games. Then Kinect announced with smoke and mirrors and Milo and their 1st party output has been abysmal since then. Argue if you must (and I know you must) but admit Its not fitting of a platform holder serious about gaming and they should be doing better. Its a platform holder duty to supply plenty of 1st party titles and not just rehash their staple franchises. They need to take risks.

But I dont want to be to hard on the platform itself. Enjoy the XBOne there is fun to be had there. I can understand why a gamer would want one. But I cant understand why a gamer would not want a PS4 given the current state of both consoles and how theyre performing games wise.

[Godmars290]

No, I would say MS has been very focused. That Kinect proves it.

Since the first Xbox they've pushed an online agenda. Introduced HDD to consoles along with patching. From there and because of the success Halo and COD, they've made online multiplayer the crux of the brand. To the point that FPS were all they were known for a while and something they - claimed - to want to get away from sometime during the 360's life but linger on. Then Kinect happened, proved itself only as questionable tech, yet was supposedly built into the XB1 as part of always online policies which backfired spectacularly. Has them still reeling but still pushing titles with online dependency. Multiplayer to ensure a party/crowd mentality in regards to games on their systems.

And its that same online dependency push that's negatively impacted the mindset for the games on their systems. Limited them so.

[XXanderXX]

Very cool , enjoy

[The_Sage]

Very well thought out and written. Nice job.

[sdplisken]

Wow and it took him this long to figure out MS dosnt care about the core gamer?
LMAO
Well anyway welcome to where the GAMES are on PS4 :)

[michael10662]

I got a ps4 I never turn it on if it's on the Xbox one that's what I will buy it on only buy second hand games on ps4

[MRMagoo123]

yes makes sense , why bother getting the best versions when you can get the inferior versions on xbone instead

.....said no one ever. Can easily spot an idiot or a liar or both.

[Bronxs15]

You know the old saying "it takes one to know one" ?

That might be what went on there. Maybe ur mindset is that of a troll.

I read his comment and didn't get any trolling.

I own both systems and purchase games for Xbox one mainly. Prefer the controller Xbox headset and adapter and I plugged in a 4TB WD My Passport drive.

I get more and better free games with Xbox live and don't need two gaming subscriptions. Going forward I'll renew Xbox live and let ps plus expire.

I use PS4 for single player Sony exclusives.

Guess I must be a troll for having a preference that doesnt match yours right?

[Razzer]

@MRMagoo
I rarely come across xbox fanboys on n4g who do not claim to own a PS4. Funny how they use PS4 to justify their Xbox One.

[MRMagoo123]

@razzer

yup I agree , it seems every xbone fan also owns a ps4, no wonder the sales are so much better than Xbox one 😂 even the xbone fanboys can't help but buy one.

[DivineAssault]

xbox got pounded down into submission.. They either get more variety exclusives or theyre going to fail next gen.. I skipped xbox this gen and i always buy all the main consoles..

[TechnoGoat]

Easy: Xbox is sucking wind this generation. Playstation is killing it, who wouldn't jump ship!?

[WickedLester]

Seriously at this point if you say you don't like PS4 you might as well say you don't like videogames.

[dcbronco]

In the beginning of the generation when playstation sales were at there peak it didn't have games. Fans said it was all about the power and potential. Now with Scorpio coming its all about the games. People are sheep and full of sheep. You'd be better off just sayin you bought it cause.

[Bathyj]

When didnt it have games because I must have missed that. Havent had a case in the last three years when I didnt have something to play. Barely had it in the last 20 actually.

And XBOne doesnt have power OR games. Soon it will get one. Lets hope it uses it to get the other, but I dont see many games getting announce at E3 and then magically making it out for Scorpios launch.

You Xbox guys are putting all you eggs in this power increase basket which wont be a thing until the end of the year most likely, but it looks like you'll still have very little to play on it worthwhile. Theres not that much announced coming this year thats going to show off Scorpios power except maybe Crackdown which was supposed to be about the Clouds power. I guess they realised clouds are just hot air and moisture.

At least with PS4 Pro I have power and games right now.

[Bronxs15]

@dcbronco
Well said.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

F what other people were saying... what was YOU saying at the beginning of this gen? That the PS4 had no games? Do you admit that it has games now? Clearly power didn't matter to you as the PS4 would have been you preferred system since the beginning right? Has your opinion of the system changed since the beginning of this gen now that it has more games? Never mind the fact the PS4 had games since the beginning anyway. PS4 could have been weaker and most still would have bought it due to preferring games lineup over the competition anyway.

People getting upset that people aren't clamoring for Scorpio just on power alone when they themselves weren't clamoring for PS4 based on power alone in the beginning. Dare I say Sheep?

[rainslacker]

The no games argument has always been a fallacy, and I know you're better than that, and don't believe it.

For every PS console, it without fail, gets the no games argument, when every PS console releases with games. Even the PS3, which was light, had it's exclusive games of note. Even the Vita, for all the people saying it had no games, it actually had more exclusive games from first and third party than any other system released in history, and had them for several years, all with the war cries that "it has no games". Even today, the Vita gets more exclusive games than any console except maybe the 3DS, yet people ignore it because they're too japanese.

During all that time you claim Sony fans were saying how it was about the power, they were also saying that it certainly did have games. I recall the lists fondly showing how Sony had more games than MS. Or did you forget about that early gen oft linked website called listwars....which sadly no longer exists.

[Skankinruby]

There was never a period when ps4 didn't have games. Power was never an argument from Sony loyalists, that was last gen when ps3 at least had blu ray as leverage. Now ironically it's xbox pushing the hardware specs and avoiding the exclusives debate altogether.

[MasterCornholio]

From what I've seen this gen PS4s Sparse is equal to XB1s medium.

P.S

I'm making reference to that Sony executives comment where he said their holiday lineup was " a little sparse".

[Razzer]

"Fans said"

Who is this poster named "Fans"? I don't know this guy.

[BlakHavoc]

I think it's great that he found exclusives to enjoy even though it seems as though he didn't play the best exclusive yet (imo), UC4. And I completely agree that the PS4's future looks super bright, with games like GoW, Spider-Man, Death Stranding, TLOU pt 2, Horizon, P5, Detroit, and many more coming. However I think the resurgence of Japanese games is what's also really helping out the PS4. We know their first party western studios (SSM, ND, GG, SP) will deliver, but now it seems like they're getting big quality exclusives from studios originating out of the east. GR2, Nioh, Yakuza, and Tales of Berseria have all reviewed pretty well, and NieR looks like it may add to that list. Once P5 comes out, it may become an embarrassment of riches at that point for the PS4. If Sony announces a couple big exclusive releases for fall 2017, I might just faint.

[TheColbertinator]

Such delusions in the gaming media is not at all surprising.

[rigo8582]

To each their own, I have a XB1 and PS4. I got the XB1 on launch day and the PS4 3 months after it launched. In that window I've played 2 games on my PS4. Had it not been for Uncharted 4 my PS4 would've went two years not being played.

I enjoy the XB1 way more then the PS4. It has mainly to do with the controller. The battery life of the DS4 is garbage. I spend more time having to charge it then I do playing it.

If the last guardian is something that you're interested more power to you. I'll take something like Halo or Gears over the last guardian any day.

[ASSASSYN]

I'll stick to my controller that fits in my man hands.

[MRMagoo123]

you got a ps4 then ....me too. nice work.

I think if I had hands that weren't symmetrical and my thumbs for some reason were in different spots on my left than on my right I'd prefer the xbone controller but luckily I was born defect free.

[shiva1]

27days 11hrs and 26min of halo5 and still not over with it. More than 100 games in the library but still not at all interested in any other. I am not the only one here.... Theres tons of friends like this and thier achievements history show nothing other than H5.

You can say Halo, Forza or Gears..... For me its Halo, Halo and Halo. Nobody can change that.

[DragonDDark]

Nice. I play more than one game a year myself.

[Skankinruby]

To each their own. You're entitled to your opinion as well as everyone else, and majority would call that redundancy.

[Donnie81]

I'm just a fan of great games and ill go to any platform to play them. But honestly its my ps4 that's getting all the love lately

[Yohshida]

After reading the article, I think you mainly play SP games. So owning a ps4 is perfectly fine. Yet I dont get why you would buy Mass Effect for Ps4. You can play one week early and a scorpio patch will come.

[Doabarrelroll]

By your logic should people question why someone would buy mulitplates on Xbox until Scorpio due to PS4 PRO patches and it being better? See how stupid that sounds.

Also stop bragging about playing a game a week early I.E. being a bug tester.

[MasterCornholio]

Because EA Access requires you to buy a subscription and a new console not to mention you would have to wait months before playing the game on Scoprio. That's why many PS4 owners will just play the game on their PS4s and PS4 Pros.

Plenty of people will buy the game on PS4 as well as on the XBO.

[Yohshida]

You can test ea Access for a month, buy the game a week early and get a good discount. Jumping from Xbox to the ps4 pro to play multiplat better just seems like short term thinking. If it was such a huge Problem, he could have bought a ps4 from the start.

[Razzer]

"he could have bought a ps4 from the start."

He probably wish he had.

[Gustertote]

^ I do

[sk8ofmnd]

Being a sony supporter i totally didnt see the xbox getting so dominated this gen with as great as the 360 did. Now it seems im watching the scorpio release for no damn reason other than having the best version of 3rd partys. But by the time scorpio launches the ps4 and pro could be around 75 million consoles. Who cares who has more power when the other camp has the most exclusives and biggest instal base.

[SynestheticRoar]

Exceptional article. A clearly and distinctly understanding who had has the best console games for you to enjoy.

[Max-Zorin]

With Xbox current condition, I don't know if it's Phil that gotta go, or the entire Xbox division. Oh well, I'll just look forward to some upcoming releases on PS4, and probably pick up a few games I missed out on.

[Inzo]

I must say I have always been a Playstation supporter ever since the PS1, even if MS pushed out game after game and Sony shipped no games my loyalty will always be to the Playstation. Kudos to this guy for getting a better experience but I just cant see myself ever jumping ship.

[FyBy]

I think microsoft should again consider moving into htpc segment with xbox. It slowly is coming this way by itself. There are few details like you can configure operations through hdmi cec powering on off devices with xbox. Another thing you can fully control xbox with universal remotes, so it is easier to integrate it into entertainent system. And lastly its possible (or will be soon) to install kodi. These are litlle thing, that are slowly moving xbox again to a position as a home media center. Thats good, because its deifferentitation. PS4 is more close system which is primarily focused on games. And its obvious from its lineup. Evereyone make their choices.

[SatanicEyeJesus]

Actually, Playstation is the best place to play since old good PS1.

[Gamer92MMM]

Totally agree dude , and even with PS3 era , the system was powerfull but nobody make it to take advantage of it except Naughty Dogs

[Gamer92MMM]

Playstation games just give me an intention of playing it over and over coz they are full of emotions that make you care for the characters all along the story :) :) :)

[MrGobz]

#news

[esmittystud101]

I average one game a year purchase on X1. If your not into Halo or Gears of War (I was as a kid, I'm 32 now and lost interest ump teen years ago). X1 is shallow.

Forza Horizon 3
Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive
Inside

Only games I have bought in two years time on X1.

I would consider getting Scorpio.......if I had some more first party developers that interested me. Sea of Thieves looks fun. Crackdown 3 I think will be the most overhyped game of the year......whatever year it decides to come out.

It takes five minutes to bring down a building........the enemy left two minutes ago. We have destruction in games currently if they haven't seen.

[Major_Glitch]

This generation belongs to Sony.

[nowitzki2004]

Georgenoob?

[alfcrippinjr]

the ps4 is ruling the games console world
it is the best console going for your money worth.
until dawn is amazing its ike wow

microsoft is left in the ditch they do not care about the gaming world
all the care about is everyone using there system for media use only.

kids will vote for the xbox one as all there school friends be playing on it

people have to remember the reason why the xbox one looks good in colour and sometime graphic
its all down to there direct x system nothing more

the ps4 is the king of the hill for your moneys worth
and the libary of games are amazing

not like the xbox one

[Fearmonkey]

I focused with Xbox and then Xbox 360 and was planning on the next Xbox but MS completely turned me off with the DRM and always online baloney. I bought a PS4 and have been very happy with my PS4, PS4 Pro, Vita, and PSVR. I am glad I didn't buy a Xbox One. I might buy a Scorpio, but at this moment im lukewarm rather than super excited, im hoping E3 will push me to get one.

[slasaru01]

You can say the same about Forza, Halo and Gears, there's nothing to respond on PS.

Until dawn easily covered but Quantum Break and many multiplatform games