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Horizon Zero Dawn's game director talks about launching close to Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Mathijs de Jonge has commented on Horizon Zero Dawn being released so close to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

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wonderfulmonkeyman2632d ago (Edited 2632d ago )

I don't think they'll affect each other much, for a variety of reasons.
Both look like they'll sell gangbusters.
I like Horizon because it feels like a mix of Turok, and a futuristic robo-dino version of Far Cry Primal.
Both very good things in my book.
I like Zelda because, well...jesus, where would I even start without ending up bypassing the character limit for posts?XD
Being able to capture and register your own horses, hang-gliding, cooking, climbing as far as your stamina can take you with no need for specific pre-designated grip spots, overworld bosses, 900 Korok Seed puzzles, over a hundred big and small Shrines on top of main dungeons, heart pieces / containers to find, rare ingredients, stamina upgrades, giant claymores and hammers, new races to meet...
The list goes on and on, so I'll just stop there.XD

Moonman2632d ago

I have (well will have in March) PS4 and Switch. Interested in Horizon but Zelda's getting bought/played first. Both games are going to sell really well.

ZeekQuattro2631d ago

When I'm finished with Zelda I'll get Horizon. Two open world games that close to each other is too much for me. By the time I'm finished with Zelda BOTW Horizon will be on some kind of sale anyway so it all works out.

Gemmol2631d ago

never thought about it like that, but I like what you said, it should be on sale after you play 100 hours or more in zelda

LamerTamer2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

Plus they will have patched out most of the bugs in Horizon by then. Nintendo tends to release finished games. Nintendo has this weird idea that games should be complete and work out of the box, What a concept, everyone else not so much. So play the finished Zelda then buy and patch the broken Horizon later, best strategy.

lizard812882631d ago

Plus Nintendo games never go on sale, unless it is a measly 5% off or something dumb.

remixx1162631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

@lamer

Well guerilla games is known for its technical prowess, I doubt you'll be waiting for it to be patched to death.

Especially seeing as though it's already gone gold.

Nice try tho bro

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Deadpooled2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

Warning - wonderfulmonkeyman is blarting out at the thought of zelda!

wonderfulmonkeyman2631d ago

And you're spaming for the sake of flame baiting. Congrats; you've earned your markdowns.

Deadpooled2630d ago (Edited 2630d ago )

'Congrats; you've earned your markdowns.'

And so have you earned the monstrous amount of markdowns for jerking off with Nintendo Defence Force fanboy comments since the Switch reveal. U_R_Weirdos won the 'Most Deluded Comment on N4G - January 2017' award for taking delusion to the next level but you were very close to winning it.

freshslicepizza2631d ago

zelda will definitely have a much higher attach ratio but horizon has well over 55 million potential customers already.

i expect 2 million zelda sales in the first two months and 4 million horizon sales in the first two months.

Uken122631d ago

It's also launching on Wii U. So I would probably expect more than 2 million. I agree that Horizon has a chance of selling more. But Zelda is one of the biggest titles in gaming period. Horizon is a new IP, which may be a reason why it could not sell as well as Zelda could.
Zelda also had that fantastic trailer. Personally the best game trailer ever. I wasn't sold on BOTW until I saw that.
I hope they both sell very well, these developers deserve it.

rainslacker2631d ago

I doubt they'll effect each other either. It's not like having COD and BF releasing at the same time, where one will cannibalize the sales of the other.

There will be three kinds of people buying Switch

1. The Nintendo devout gamer, which may not own a PS4.
2. The multi-console gamer, which will likely buy both if they're into these kinds of games.
3. The people who are attracted to Swtich through Nintendo's marketing, which will likely buy Zelda.

WiiU may throw a wrench in the grand totals, but not so much that it probably will make that much of a difference.

rivaldoo7772628d ago

Can't wait to see these Nintendo suckers cry when NS flops

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Maybay2632d ago

People shouldn't be suprised if Horizon outsells BOTW. The reason? The PS4 has a bigger install base, and Sony will advertise this title very well. Nintendo's doing the same for Switch, though it has a non-existing market (which is only launching with 2 million consoles for March 3), and the Wii U version doesn't seem like it'll be the top selling one (though I may be wrong).

Yes Horizon is a new IP and Zelda is an old critically acclaimed franchise, though numbers do play a factor. 50 million (and up for the PS4), while 13 million + 2 (Switch's launch allotment).

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2632d ago

it should if were basing it off PS4 install base but looking at how Mario Kart 8 sold about 61% of Wii U install base.
It probably be better to ask which sold better by E3

Mrveryodd2632d ago

Nothing else to play ... Would help that 61%

_-EDMIX-_2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

? and?

That is a far cry from 36 million from the Wii's sales bud.

Factor this.....people bought Mario Kart for Wii that were not known to clearly buy this series generations before....where are they now?

8 million isn't bad, but 8 million again also isn't 36 million.

This means, that its likely Zelda might sell less then the ones that released on the Wii when you factor we are not looking at a 100 million install base. Even when Wii had a MASSIVE install base, by the time Skyword Sword released, that fad was already dead and its sales show greatly how fast those casual fans moved on

Consider...Mario kart has not sold this low since 2003 with Double Dash with the Gamecube.

sooooo yea.

If we go by that, we can assume naturally the sales of Zelda will be lower then the past titles simply based on math.

Twilight Princess sold 8.5 million on both combined. But...Gamecube sold around 20 million, Wii U sold 14....

Switch isn't getting wii sales bud, sooooooo I'm not seeing the combined sales of Wii U and Switch getting Zelda to move those type of numbers. Again....why did Skyword Sword sell 3.5 million even though Wii had more units at the time of its release? Sorry bud, I just don't see that happening.

Mind you, Mario Kart is a more popular series then Zelda. So if Mario Kart isn't move 36 million, Zelda isn't move 8 million buddy. That just seems very unlikely based on how Twilight Princess got those sales. ie Skyword Sword sales show those fans did not return if they were even gamers in the first place as suppose to Wii casuals now likely playing iphone or Facebook games.

I don't know how you factor BOTW outselling something like Horizon with less of an install base and by a series that doesn't actually move Mario Kart numbers.....

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Utalkin2me2631d ago

@OtakuDJK1NG-Rory

Yeah, but if you look at every other Nintendo console it doesn't come close to that. Just the WiiU had very little console sales is why it was 61%. Kind of a skewed number.

badz1492631d ago

I don't know if Horizon ZD will sell gangbusters but now that Sony already knew that the Switch and Zelda both will be released around the same time, I guess they are gonna ramp up marketing for it. I expect it to overshadow or at least match Nintendo's marketing campaign for Switch.

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DillyDilly2632d ago (Edited 2632d ago )

BOTW is also on the Wii U so dont count that out as well & no doubt people kept their Wii U's for this instead of the Switch

Rippcity2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

That's why I kept my Wii U. Nintendo is out of their mind if they think I'm going to upgrade to a Switch to play the Zelda I deserved to play in 2016. I'm definitely getting Horizon day one and I'll wait for a used copy of Zelda. I refuse to give Nintendo anymore of my money.

moegooner882631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

The LoZelda series isn't Mario, it sells modestly. Check the sales of Skyward Sword for instance. GG has nothing to be concerned about.

Vegamyster2627d ago

Modestly? Skyward Sword sold a little under 4 million and the Wii version of Twilight Princess which arrived shortly after launch sold over 7 million.

moegooner882627d ago

Yes modestly. Under 4 million with a user base of 100 million isn't great. It is modest.

Vegamyster2627d ago

Twilight Princess came out 5 years before Skyward Sword and sold more despite having less than half the install base, the Wii had 100 million units sold but how many of those were collecting dust by 2011?

Gemmol2631d ago

I would agree with you if sony fans buy more first party games, but if you go by the sales sony release or even what VG chart release, sony first party games do not sell in high number as nintendo first party, and like what the person wrote on the bottom he believes when it comes to nintendo system there is nothing else to play, I disagree, but its his opinion. Now zelda is not mario kart and sony do have higher install base, but Im still going with zelda out performing it, but not by much

G20WLY2631d ago

Not all Nintendo games are huge sellers. Mario is the big one, in it's various guises.

Look at the sales of the last 3 Zelda games. The highest by a mile was Twilight Princess, which sold 8m. Uncharted 4 has already sold over 9m and it's still a good seller to this day.

And that's not even close to Sony's biggest seller.

_-EDMIX-_2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

Agreed.

I think BOTW will be an amazing Zelda and I feel it will sell better then the recent enters where the series has been on a decline, but I see it ultimately selling less then Horizon. I see Horizon even likely outselling Uncharted 4.

Thought Uncharted was established, I feel clearly it catered to its established fans, where something like The Last Of Us moved like 8 million units.

Uncharted 1 moved like 4 million units. So it very much shows, that over time during the PS3 gen, Sony's install base has become more trusting of new IPs.

With Horizon, i feel it has enough going for it, that it can get those sales, at least matching Uncharted 4 and The Last Of Us, if not outsell it over time.

I don't really see BOTW outselling Horizon. Simply because of the series decline over time, Wii U's low sales, Switch having zero sales etc.

I like the numbers folks lol

Over the years, Zelda has sold less and less and I feel maybe it was series fatigue, maybe it was because the series was in a bad spot in regards to just not evolving to keep established fans (like myself, went from Zelda OoT to Elder Scrolls, Balders Gate, Fallout etc and never went back), who knows.

Twilight Princess is the last good Zelda game to meet great sales, like 8 million and a lot of that was due to the Wii...THE WII, that is enough to question if this Zelda will move those units. When the Wii released, its first part titles sold REALLY well based on the whole "waggle" concept.

Consider....when the Wii install base grew years later, Skyward Sword, a game that actually uses a more advance form of motion........sold less.

As it goes folks.

Wind Waker 5.57 million
Twilight Princess 8 million
Skyword Sword 3.75 million

I can't assume BOTW will see 8 or 10 million or anything like that based on the Wii, anymore then I could assume Mario Kart on Switch (ie a BRAND NEW MK) would move 30 million.

Once you factor the while "wii" thing, its irrelevant. Its a number that actually doesn't really factor well as many of those sales are to people I don't really believe where established fans that actually even exist in the market to buy this new game.

Consider this folks.....where were those Zelda fans when Skyword Sword released? I think the fad died and those fans left. Skyword Sword is even MORE MOTION then Twilight Princess and still sold less, even with the install base being LARGER when it released. Maybe Skyword Sword is a real representation of the amount of real established Zelda fans that exist as "diehards", but I feel BOTW will get all those "diehards" as well as bringing back some older fans, like me!!! I'm getting it on Wii U though.

My guess is 4 to 5 million lifetime sales for BOTW
My guess is 8 to 9 million or even more for lifetime sales Horizon

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Realplaya2631d ago

Maybay don't forget for 1st party games the Wii U has a crazy attach rate so there are 13.5 unites there. Then the Wii U pre orders have been bumped up so it's possible there will be 3 million systems and the Zelda pre orders are on point. The only reason zero sales is because all Sony games get a price drop and bundle within the first year. But Zelda has legs and more than likely you won't see Zelda drop for years.

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sullynathan2632d ago

Breath of the wild will be the better game

StormLegend2632d ago

Both will be great games and both are coming to different systems. PS4 owners will buy Horizon and Nintendo owners will buy Zelda and owners of both will buy both of them.

DaFeelz2631d ago

"Owners of both will buy both of them" Yep, I am. Truer words my friend truer words...

sullynathan2631d ago

I don't think both will be great, Zelda will be the great one and horizon might be good.

UCForce2632d ago

Those two games are completely different.

Dark_Knightmare22631d ago

All you do is troll Sony so why would anyone take you seriously

Abnor_Mal2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

His name is Sullynathan, he is saying, I would think, that his job is to sully anything PlayStation. Uncharted being its biggest IP and Nathan Drake is basically the face of PlayStation, he will sully Nathans name and games and the platform his games are on. Not saying what I said is fact, but its what i've always thought when I see his name, could be wrong though.

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sullynathan2631d ago

No, my name is sully Nathan because sully and Nathan drake are from uncharted. If you think I'm trolling Sony then you're an idiot

porkChop2631d ago

I don't think you can compare the two. They may seem similar on the surface, but that's pretty much where the similarities end. Both games will be great in their own ways.

LexHazard792631d ago

I agree, no shade here on Horizon Dawn.
Zelda games are usually top of the line experiences. I dont know much about Horizon Dawn other than it has great graphics.

Atleast with Zelda we have other games to go by and how they each were recieved by the gaming community. So yeah im looking for Zelda to continue to be great.

UCForce2631d ago

Horizon Zero Dawn has great gameplay. Not just graphics.

no_ripley2631d ago

people on this site lololol

blinded by the HZD hype.

they'll never learn

so sad

UCForce2631d ago

Really ? People hype this game because they want to see something new from GG and they did showed it. Even you don't like it, that's fine by me. But I will fully support GG to improve HZD even further. In previous event and now, the game got positive feedback from consumers and critics. Also, it's not blind, it's their choice.

UCForce2631d ago (Edited 2631d ago )

The only sad thing is you. You want the game to fail because your mockery are just bad. I remember you angry about Resident Evil 7 how is changed the directions without give people a redemption. Again, it's your opinion. But like I said, way too negative it will make you emo.

Deadpooled2631d ago

At least you're not going into this level of delusion => https://www.youtube.com/wat...

DigitalRaptor2629d ago

I like your confidence.

I hope they will both be fantastic games.

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StormLegend2632d ago

Had my money saved from Horizon Zero dawn months ago and will sooner or later get the switch for zelda.

FallenAngel19842632d ago

It's exciting that both awesome titles are releasing only a week apart from one another

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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the anti-Breath of the Wild

Polygon: "To get back to the way Ocarina made us feel, it was necessary to reject almost everything about it."

LG_Fox_Brazil117d ago

Ocarina of Time changed my life forever, such a masterpiece

Zeldafan64116d ago

Hard to believe it's 25 years old already.

Cacabunga116d ago

The feeling this game gave me the first time i had my hands on it is indescribable.. i still get the chill from that day..
botw is like a spin off of the series.. it’s fun but with many flaws and the most important which is Zelda formula isn’t there..

FinalFantasyFanatic115d ago

I can't even remember how many times I played through OoT, I finished that game, and collected everything so many times.

Vits116d ago

I generally agree with the author here. However, if I had to point out a single game as the 'anti-Breath of the Wild,' that would be Majora's Mask. Pretty much everything in that game is interconnected, relies on something that the player must have done previously, is timed, and can be considered a puzzle in itself.

gold_drake116d ago

but still considered the best of the seties.

i would have liked botw to be more like ocarina.

franwex116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

25 years from today whatever Zelda is out people would too be looking fondly at Breath of the Wild.

Ah the more simple times of the 2020s.

babadivad116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

It isn't...

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DF Weekly: Do we actually need The Last of Us Part 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn remasters?

With the details we now have in terms of features and pricing, I don't think there are any significant concerns remaining - just that perhaps that the term 'remastered' in the title is a little misplaced. Essentially, what we're dealing with here is broadly equivalent to a release along the lines of Death Stranding: Director's Cut. It's the original game with a dash of extra content and additional visual modes that tap into the power of PlayStation 5.

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-Foxtrot139d ago

Bloodborne, Infamous, Killzone, Resistance, Puppeteer, Jak and Daxter etc are all better choices

Even a full on remake of Drakes Fortune I’d take

PrinceOfAnger139d ago

killzone 2/3 definitely a better choice, i have recently finished the games on pc and thought about that, a full remake like demon souls is even better

darthv72139d ago

2&3 are still fine... I'd take the first one as a full remake before the others. They could flesh out more of the backstory that the sequels touch on. Even go deeper into the lore of Helgan.

specialguest139d ago

KZ 2/3 would be amazing. KZ 2 was a graphical masterpiece back then. With today's modern tech, all of those tricks Guerilla Games did to create the effects like the lighting, storm effects, etc, they could now be done in real-time and more realistic

Cacabunga138d ago

Killzone 2-3
Golden Abyss remake
Infamous 2

RaidenBlack139d ago

Uncharted 1 still got a decent remaster for 8th gen ... a remake is not that much of a requirement ...
instead remake candidates should be from 5th or 6th gen
and as for proper remasters (not just lazy res upscale): Killzone 2 & 3 obviously and also Resistance/inFamous (as well as MGS4 :P)

-Foxtrot139d ago

My point with the list is that I’d rather see those titles than what we are getting…titles which are only 3-5 years old and still hold up today

CrashMania139d ago

Sony own the Demons Souls and Bloodborne IP, I wish they'd do something with Bloodborne at the very least.

vfl523139d ago

The way you worded that makes me think you don't realize they already remade demon souls

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GamingSinceForever139d ago

Not one of those will sell more copies than TLOU2 Remaster. The sooner we realize that these gaming sites and their followers are less than 1% of the buying public the better off we’ll be.

Sure we prefer newer titles but this is business and a business is what Sony is running.

JackBNimble138d ago

Don't you think they could be doing something better with their time and money, like maybe making something new? Or have they become lazy and just reliving the past with the same old games over and over.

Gez ... do something fresh and new already .

notachance139d ago

I'd rather for them to go Square Enix route and remake/remaster their PS1 libraries instead of these unnecessary remaster

come on, legend of dragoon..

Gamingsince1981139d ago

What's with the "need" anyway ? This is video games, no one needs them at all, we need water , we need air, we don't need games.

Barlos138d ago

I would love a remake/remaster of KZ1. For its time it really pushed the PS2 hard and because of that it had a few issues. This is begging to be given the Bluepoint touch and brought up to date. I'd love to see an updated Killzone trilogy collection for sure.

Yi-Long138d ago

Sony killed the game and the studio behind it, but a Remaster of the excellent Driveclub would absolutely be my favorite release if it happened. Just a delicious racing game.

FinalFantasyFanatic138d ago (Edited 138d ago )

So many better choices, I can't fathom why reasonably recent games are getting picked over Classics that are more deserving.

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Battlestar23139d ago

Well I want a Horizon Zero Dawn remaster especially if it's an upgrade to Forbidden West Graphics and Animation.

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Duke19139d ago

Nope. But HD remasters are an easy cash grab that the masses shovel cash for because while they complain about remakes, they still buy them

PRIMORDUS139d ago

Not if they release on a platform that never received the original in the first place like PC.

46player138d ago

No complaint here, I want the updated graphics.

Ra3030139d ago

My thoughts on this is do we need Richard Leadbetter's or Digital Foundry's opinion on anything........ever? I know I don't they do nothing for me and never have.

specialguest139d ago

You may not, but tons of people do since the video has 4,700 Likes to 112 Dislikes

Chocoburger139d ago

That guy is a buffoon, DF Direct is the best gaming podcast around. I look forward to it every week.

BehindTheRows138d ago

By that same token, some may not NEED remasters, while others may/do.

Amplitude139d ago (Edited 139d ago )

DF videos are typically absolutely amazing game reviews first and foremost. They have great intros, explain the mechanics well, tell you if they enjoyed it or not (I usually vibe well with John's games personally), and then they have the best tech breakdowns of a game's performance which is very very important to me. I want to know what settings to run at on PC, and on PS5 I wanna know if the 60fps mode runs well or not because if it doesn't... well I'll just get it on PC (If it isn't completely broken there too). DF Retro is also always unbelievably interesting and super well edited and inspired my YouTube channel which just crossed 1200 subs (wooo!). They helped me a lot with understanding game development and got me interested in goofing around with game engines and PC building in general back in the day.

I don't mean any offence by this but you sound like somebody who skims their analysis videos, selectively scrolls to the stats, says "who cares?", and then closes it. Or possibly somebody who watches (stolen) cut clips on TikTok? Even if you are somehow unaffected by blurry images and fluctuating frame rates (some people are and I envy you) I recommend watching a full DF episode one day. They're extremely interesting and I watch literally all of them even if I have no interest in the game.

VonAlbrecht139d ago

"I personally don't enjoy this extremely well-presented and highly informative content so it shouldn't exist."

-Ra3030, Nobel Peace Prize Nominee

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Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Black Friday deals 2023 - save 15% on Link's latest adventure

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