Chris Kohler of Wired writes: "Remember how you were going to be able to invite other PlayStation 3 owners to your virtual apartment in Home, then watch videos together? That's not happening, at least not in the "open beta.""
Wired nor kotaku provided a source for Jack Bauer's statement. I'll wait and see what the real word is on this thanks. It doesn't sound impossible, and due to potential copywrite issues it's not beyond reason, however the story seems pretty baseless until an official statement has been made. If I missed something (IE: an official statement) let me know, but as of late many stories are being based of off very little facts and a lot of speculation. Wired is a pretty credible source, however nowhere in the article did the author state "Jack Bauer told US", they used the words "Jack Bauer said" so It's possible this is being based off an interview or quote from another source (which we do not yet know of).
Well is music sharing in the beta cus i tried that and couldn't figure out what to do
because they don't want an official source or they are just sore that HOME is PS3 only?
its liiiiiiiivvvvvveeeeeeeeeeee update is available now 1.30 bike and weather and 24 hr sky for ps3
Lmao, how can people disagree with a question? It makes no sense...
The same way they can disagree with all the boners I get for Fallout 3. I swear they're real!! I wouldn't make something up like that.
Thats quite a blow to HOME feature set, since you can share pictures, videos (not sure about music) in The New Xbox 360 Experience Party System so i doubt copyright is much of an issue, must be more to do with the HOME system itself
I don't think it has anything to do with copy rights. I think it might have more to do with what kind of material will be shared. There are a lot weird people in this world and a lot of children with video game consoles. I hope MS has a plan in place to insure that inappropiate content is not piped out to those that should not be veiwing it.
So true Genesis5 with several article I've read about how pedophiles are using Video game systems as a way to lure children to meet with them for god knows what I'm glad there not doing this sort of stuff this would be a haven for wackos swapping porn via home without any way of being watched over what get sent to one n other
Maybe they should allow video sharing for people only over the age of 18? And they'd have to prove with a credit card or something of the like. I'm only 17, but by the time home comes out I should be 18 haha. Probably not actually, since it's dated for the end of the year. I've got a feeling Sony will keep their word. They kind of have to as to make sure XBL doesn't get another competitive advantage with its Xbox live experience. Home looks alot better than Avatars I believe, I don't even think 360 owners could lie to themselves about that.
Idk, this was my most anticipated feature. If it does not come in the full version in some way, then I will never use Home again.
This was probably gonna be one of the most used features i would use. My friends(on friends list) should be devistated. We were gonna watch Naruto Shippuuden episodes together on fridays. Oh well what can you do, it is free after all.
@v1c1ous Naruto is fine to watch (Not the Gimped US version).
I love Naruto Shippuuden! Next week is hour long special haha. The English dub is unwatchable, it shouldn't even be considered as part of the show. Honestly, it ruins the experience entirely. The one thing I commend them on is keeping the soundtrack, but I think that was because of laziness rather than trying to keep the authenticity of the show. Plus, they ruin all the dialogue so that is more adaptable to the western world. It's like its a completely different show following a similar plot. Back on topic, it would be awesome to be able to share things like that with friends. But don't lie and say that all of you PlayStation owners wouldn't share inappropriate material at least once! I think we all know that you'd only be lying to yourself, I for one know better than to think that this video sharing community will remain completely innocent. I think it's sort of stupid that they might ban this function because of video sharing abuse. It's available on the PC with an internet connection, it's not as if Sony will be the first or main offender in this issue. If this issue had been dealt with across the board, then yes I would agree to keep it out of Home. But since it hasn't been I can only say to not remove this feature. I don't feel like Sony's service should be gimped for a feature that is already used A LOT elsewhere. Oh, and I know the reason that they possibly will not allow the feature to remain is because of the damn Media that will blow this whole issue out of proportion and exacerbate it to a point where this feature will end up hurting Sony. Especially in the eyes of parents, their eyes are so judgmental!
Home Beta! Beta! What part of beta isn't understood. TGSI
Yup and a beta's all we'll see this year. I would like anyone who disagrees to point me to a source where they explicitly state that we will see the FULL, NON-BETA version of home this year. All I have seen is them saying "home is coming this year" or "you'll get your hands on home this year". That could quite happily be referring to the open beta.
THANK YOU at least someone gets it. Expect trolls to get the jump on this article.
Sony have taken home in the wrong direction. WHAT are they doing? They keep just redesigning the home square. They add things like bubble machines and video screens showing short clips of trailers for games that we can see online anyway. That is NOT what they should be concentrating on. The whole home "project" was not thought through at the beginning. Someone said, "How about a virtual world where you can meet fellow gamers?" and everyone kind of went along with it, creating this virtual world without THINKING what it would turn out to be. Video sharing could have been a great feature. Game launching and game spaces for EVERY GAME would have really made home something special. But rather than consider that people MIGHT, just MIGHT want to launch into games from home, they haven't realised this until this year. They could have easily forced upon developers of online games a universal system whereby you could specify parameters for your game and it would launch into it. At the moment it has to be implemented specially by the devs at great expense and effort to get a fully integrated system. There is a definite lack of coherence with the PS3, I'll list some things here: Trophy Support Custom soundtracks Voice chat Friends lists (some games only show 50 friends, it's not under one universal system) Game invites The way updates/patches are handled from game to game Dualshocks and SKUs (some now have the SAME HD capacity but lack BC) Home game launching and game spaces If sony had truly planned home, as well as the PS3's features, none of these things would have got this way. What about 3D trophy collections? There has not even been any word of that. And most likely, not ALL games that have trophies will support 3D trophies.
I don't think they're taking it in the wrong direction I just feel like they haven't added much since the delay. Of course they did alot of polishing and fixed bugs but I was expecting to hear more about new features added to Home since the delay. Earlier this year I was hyped for both LBP and Home but my Hype for Home has died down alot. I still can't wait for Home but what would really get me hype for Home again is to see a plethora of games to play in Home from arcade games to games like chess, Jeopardy, basketball, dodgeball and even crazy stuff like paintball. In Home there should be a live screen that keeps you updated about things that are going on in the ps3 community sort of like the poll bar from cops 2.0 where you can see good poll questions.
Well, I love my PS3 and it really hurts to admit this, by I agree with you to a certain exten, Thor. There IS a lack of coherence and communication between the PR people and the Devs and it IS leading to fudged up promises and services. But I would say that the main issue is that all of these services are coming after the launch of the PS3 and they therefore have to be added in "on the fly" (so to speak). It's very difficult to implement something and then have all games (previously released and upcoming) suddenly support this feature. The 360 had the good fortune and the foresight to launch with a lot of these features, so, as a result, they are much more unified across all games. But it's not all roses for the 360. It did NOT have the foresight to launch with an HDD and now its patrons are suffering varying degrees of confusion as games are beginning to have mandatory installs. It did NOT launch with an HD disc reader and now devs are beginning to complain about lack of room (it's just starting, but it's enough to sow confusion in the ranks). So, yeah, it's hard to add things in on the fly, but Sony is trying and I respect them for that.
"There is a definite lack of coherence with the PS3, I'll list some things here: Trophy Support Custom soundtracks Voice chat Friends lists (some games only show 50 friends, it's not under one universal system) Game invites The way updates/patches are handled from game to game Dualshocks and SKUs (some now have the SAME HD capacity but lack BC) Home game launching and game spaces" In case you hadn't notice I think the friends list has increased by double+. But we definitely need voice chat across all games. We need custom across all games also or not there at all. These custom soundtracks have become a feature you can see but can't use. It's very frustrating to know something that could be working isn't. I don't think developers need to put forward a code to be using in game soundtracks. One thing I don't see why there is such a mass fuss over is game invites? They would be nice, but are far from a necessity like some of the other features you listed. What is it? Two extra clicks of the button to enter a game manually? The only problem is finding you're friends but the best online games help with that nowadays anyway. Not saying it wouldn't be a nice feature but I think fans only want as to take another exclusive feature away from live. But you know what PlayStation owners? All of us need to keep stating what we want and make sure that we are seen and heard by Sony so that they can see what their customers want and deserve (maybe not so much deserve). If we do this, I'm sure we will make at least a few more of these features come to fruition in the foreseeable future.
Yes the friends list has increased by double. What I meant, is that some games don't realise. I don't have 50 friends :( but I hear that e.g. warhawk will only show 50 friends in its list, rather than the full 100.
Stopped reading at beta.
so...you read the title, and not the article itself? wow, you must know it all already then!
Why is watching videos a big feature for people? I can watch videos at the comfort of the XMB and im sure my friends wont care about my amazing taste in developer videos. Sharing music is the big one for me. Im hoping for a feature thats lets you blast your favorite tune when your friends visit your apartment.
Not good news for Home fans. What's stunning is the lack of communication between the PR/Management guys in Sony and the engineers. Delays, delays and delays, features dropped etc. I understand the initial announcement and how that was too early but they really have to get their sh1t together about what they want Home to be. They look like a bunch of fools. And I do understand that it's a beta but how long will that last? Hell, N4G is still in beta.
i've been wondering for a long time about how long N4G is going to be in a beta. i see i'm not the only one who noticed!
do u no what would be funny if home lets u use play tv as well to be honest i think home will give all the fetures soon there is nothing official yet lets wait and see i think around TGS will see something new and worth the wait
But hopefully they can still squeeze it in, or (as I'm guessing) they'll simply integrate Youtube into that aspect of PS3 as well. The option to record video while playing your game is already there; hopefully Sony goes all out.
That's the way I see it, you'll be able to upload stuff through PC or recorded game videos with separate services that will integrate with Home on the PS3 and be viewed on TV's etc. I never really saw this really happening to that extent anyway, much too complicated involving copyright. It would of been COOL yes, but probably lead onto the misuse of Home and piracy. Still looking forward to taking it for a spin though!
more things will be cut if it ever makes it out that is. this is sony here they always under deliver and over hype
beta, B E T A, say it with me now BEEEEEETTTTTAAAAAA! oh wow a disagree? geez i guess the article doesn't state "BETA" after all. what the hell was i thinking?
You're making predictions about home, yet it's not even done yet. Still in beta stage bro. Wait to flame it once it fully releases k?
Enjoy your pedophile-filled fantasy world. "I have candy, come into my home" lol pathetic
And Microsoft has never overhyped anything in their miserable existence as a corporation. Until I hear something from Sony officially from the blog or from the site, I am not believing this. I still anticipate the release of Home. At least it's something *new* instead of the rehashed sh*t over an over again. Get a life.
Skinny is 10,000 miles ---------> way Start running fatass.
Go f*ck yourself inbreed. Do you know me in real life? Do you? Then stop insulting people you don't know over the internet because I can sure as HELL throw some worthwhile insults back at you. I'm sick and tired of you 360 fanbrats and your sh*t already. At LEAST I acknowledge that the 360 has good games and online service despite the crappy hardware. But none of you, and I mean NONE of you can applaud Sony for doing something good. You always have to bring it the hell down like a couple of losers. Does your 360 help find cures for diseases? No. Does your 360 help the military protect countries? No. Does your 360 allow you to change the harddrive to whatever you want? No. Does your 360 have free online service? No. Then shut the hell up.
68% RROD since there is no game on X360 worth buying
Yours tears are made of pure twinky filling. Start running!!!!! Sony has not done a good job fatty. No 4D, no 1080p native, crappy online, no 120fps. Sony shoveled out an over priced Bluray player. One year ago the PS3 was $600....now its $400. $200 drop in one year and your fat fvucking face rants that the 360 is garbage. Haha..keep eating News: PS3 is a movie player, your games sucks, you're very very overweight
Do you think your insults are flattering? I don't think they are to begin with. You are a waste of oxygen so therefore the best thing to do with someone who's a waste of oxygen is to not bother with them. You will regret your actions one of these days. What goes around, comes around. Keep it up dear.
It kinda seemed like a pipe dream to begin with. Not many people have a connection that can upload like that. At best it would be streaming from Sony servers and they probably don't have the infrastructure for that yet.
What?? No video sharing?!?!?? That's it, I'm selling my PS3... /major sarcasm
all of it has been for the better.. and the sharing of videos have been addressed many times and as of this point there is a 90% that it will be included according to MANY MANY threads from Ted the Dog (home official forums spokesman) So this article fails in so many ways.. the #1 request was for this to be in home.. i highly doubt that it won't be there.. and i was able to put many pictures around my home with pictures of my hdd.. so again, they're listening to us and unless there is a big copyright deal.. this wont happen, but it wouldn't really matter cause your "apartment" in home will be like you're real home.. only people that you want can come over.
In no way is this an official statement. Sensationalist gaming media at it's finest, thanks Wired & Kotaku.
thats the thing its never gana see the light of day. so why not flame it now? ppl just get a 360 and live how much longer can you ppl keep waiting? sh!t the things you wish you can do on psn is already done on live. move on ppl, move on.. beeetttttaaaa there i said it. and you will say it and the next person and on and on till its 2010 and we are all still saying bbeeeeeetttttaaaaaa.
if you want to waste $200. Meh, you're better off getting a Wii, at least you know it'll work properly
wow the only way your statement could be true is if they hadn't released a beta already to some ps3 owners. Gee what the hell are they gonna do with those applications then huh? god your comment is full of fail. You xbots already did that whole "it's never gonna come out" thing, don't you remember you guys are now saying "it's gonna suck so bad" but then you'll say "who the hell cares it's damn useless" and then you'll all say "yaaays we have it too! xbox-rip off for the win!" Now that's a prediction my friend. okay i'll remember your 2010 remark, if you're not banned by the time of the full release of home, then i'll flame you till kingdom come.
Okay, well does it have something to do with the 360 being out much earlier than ps3? Does it have to do with Microsoft being a "software" company and specializing in online? Yeah the Live has good stuff, I won't say it's crap or it's terrible, because it isn't, but I don't see home on live.
can you buy your way into a beta for 2.99$ on XBLive? see.... who cares, PSN is free right? i dont have to pay 50$ a year for it and its better than xblive imo. and yes it does have something to do with xbox being out much earlier.
Get a 360 so it can RROD and put my family at risk? ...No. I don't care how many games or little *gadgets* it has. I want a working console, not a ticking bomb. FAIL.
Nah air. Let them wait for something to make ps3 worthwhile. I dont want any chance of ever seeing them on xblive. We know we're better off in gaming front let them run for the plastic carrot dangling infront of their faces since E3 2005.
Well, I guess I won't be able to share my pr0n with my buddy list. However, video sharing hasn't been there for awhile. I'm not sure how 'official' anything is, but over at the 'official' PS forums, there was a huge backlash for this. Duh, why would they let people share videos with each other? Why would movie companies want their first run movies to come out on PS Home the same day they come out in theaters?
im sure ill be banned you sony fanatics like to ban ppl for not liking that beta of a console that needs an update every other week. it's not gana come out and if it does its gana suck and that why no one will care especially since micro will beat them to it again. come on lets all say it beeettttaaa beeeetttaaa.. beta keep on waiting. EDIT......................... ... @hellan live doesnt have home cause 1 we are gana get the new experience cant wait for 1vs100. 2 live never made you feel so lonely and homeless its a community its not just a bunch of random ppl hoping to stay with the same group @ jewkin but i can edit for a little :) why do you respond to me? you got me on ignore so why dont you ignore me? do me a favor and blow me. oh and we dont CLAIM to have the beer games havnt you seen the meta chart? frikin noob go watch mgs4 again and change your pad i smell fish round here that not cool @hellan same reason that ppl like jewkin and cajun bash the 360 with old sh!t like rrod knowing damn well that there hasnt been any reports of new rrod's edit aaawww jewkin, is it that time of month again? nope i dont know you i heard you like 4 foot 5 and about 250 pounds am i close? why dont you come jerk me off?! in the dark that is.. eeessshh i wouldnt wana see you.
Good, you have no bubbles left. 360 fanbrats claim they have so many games and yet they find time to attack the PS3 for no apparent reason. Lol, lol, LOL...AS IF SONY IS THE ONLY CORPORATIONS WITH DELAYS! Oh yeah, and where's your precious Spring Update? Did it get *lost* in translation? Do me a favor and get laid. EDIT: I responded to you because I can't stand imbecilic fools like you. Jewkin? Is that what all the *cool* 360 fanatics like to call me these days? You heard one dumbass bot use that so you use it as well? DO YOU EVEN KNOW ME YA STUPID JACKASS? I love how you bots operate. When someone uses one insult, you all play *follow the damn leader* and recycle it. It's pathetic. Oh, and go play your bloody Flop Human, and all the other flops you call games. MGS4 may be a movie to you but it's a damn good game that sold over 4million copies and moved a sh*tload of consoles. Jerkoff. I only speak against the 360 because it's a faulty system with good software. There is *no* excuse for a console to break down within a month and you have to keep replacing it over and over AND over again. I have acknowledged *several* times that the 360 does have some good games and online service. You need to clean your glasses or use some bloody eyedrops and learn how to read better.
'gana', lack of punctuation... I'm afraid I just can't take you seriously, kid.
ask air1 where his spring update is... XD @ "jewkin" XD ; )~.-dont even bother.... hes only 12 yrs old that knows nothing about quality and his favorite game is halo... edit: yea you can tell that he is from xblive..... how disgusting.....
Why are you bashing the ps3 so much? Why do you hate it so much? The ps3 has just as much of a community as the 360 does. Even though it isn't connected by one giant ass network, it's a community none the less. And what are these 1v100's you speak of? Which game? Seriously, which game? Seriously, both psn and live are good, and I'm sure the new experience will be great, but is it necessary to downplay everything ps3/sony related? Offtopic: Why is it that when others insult others like mad nothin happens, but I get the boot instantly..?
Good point air. I should probably be addressing all fanboys bashing each others console. But I only address 360 fanboys the most because I myself own a ps3. Sometimes I just feel the need to defend my console
hahAHhahaHA this "air" guy sounds just like me! he called him Jewkin and even made a smelly p*ssy reference! HAHAHA RIGHT ON. p.s. jewkin, wtf are u talking about? delayed spring update? wtf is this? this is the first im hearing of a spring update. u must be confusing that with your weekly updates which do absolutely NOTHING. dumbass. u cant even figure that out? Play House is suppose to bring stuff which 360 had from Day 1. so please. 360 doesn't need any updates. 360 GETS updates. PS3 NEEDS updates, and STILL doesn't have the goods yet. enjoy your beta! wait b3yond!!!!
you called someone a dumbass and then said FW updates do nothing... thats being a hypocrite no? yall got your XBLive features and 360 has been out over a year longer.... so Ps fans aren't really waiting that long for them ya know. we just got our ps3's like over a year ago and are getting upgraded with in 1 and a half years when it took XBL 8 YEARS for it to get where it is now ok. it took XBL all this time to get where its at and PSN does it in 2 years DAMN i guess thats why you 360 fans are so pissed off yall had to wait all this time for it to get where it is now and SONY comes and does it in less than 2 years and you have to pay for it when sony does it for free. <--------yall just got sh*tted on by sony XD : P XD dont be jealous though yall still have yalls avatars to look forward to XD
I've been in the beta for over a year and I have been saying this since it was rumored a few months ago. Sony has announced "VidZone". It is a streaming video and music site that they will be introducing very soon. It allows users to stream movies and music for free. Now, tell me why they would have this service, especially since they have a functional video download service already. I'll tell you why. They are planning to ONLY allow users to stream their pre-approved movies and music from VidZone inside HOME. Mark that down. You heard it here first.
Vidzone isn't due to come to America. So that effectively leaves America with no content. I really don't think so. I think there must be a real plan wherever this is going to be done or now. But this situation is a tricky one, sharing videos with people online could mean people would be sitting in a apartment watching Transformers 2 or something. The only way to get around it, would really be uploading it elsewhere that do the copyright work so Sony don't have to do it and luckily, Sony is currently friends with Google. Which could not only mean Youtube, but also Google Video (no time limit like YT) AND VidZone.
Man i give up lol.
One step Forward, Two Steps Back.. That's how Sony Dances
One step Forward, Two Steps ahhh my hip it's broken.. That's how _____ Dances. Take a guess.
MS as only moved forward, systems aren't breaking anymore, streaming movies, sharing movies, music, Sony said this would be a feature when home came out last year... now it not at all... at least yet.. Sony will straighten up only when the fan base speak up.. some are coming around others are blinded... I'm sorry for them because i own a 60gb ps3, and i want to do something with it... lets just hope they fix socom by oct. and not delay it again