Dystify on Twitter: “Zelda: BotW on Switch vs Wii U. Quite the difference.”
All I see is better shadow quality on the Switch version. Nothing major.
Well seeing that this can be a handheld when you want it to it seems very impressive to me.
I don't think you'll find many people who get that it is a handheld.
Who cares if it is a handheld? 5-10 percent yes. 90-95 percent don't care, and see it as a drawback and reason why it's 2007 power in 2017 for $299 + necessary peripheral prices (storage/pro controller) that push it past PS4 Pro prices, and nearing Scorpio's rumored price of $499. Then you have the crappy online that is going to be a deal breaker for many fence sitters who already pay for PS+ or XBlive or BOTH. Nintendo needs to come down from their Ivory Towers in Mushroom Kingdom.
Obviously youre totally amazed that it is a handheld it seems. Thats your one throw back and you comment in every article youre in defending. There is other tablets with just as much and more power then the switch. That has larger HDD and better battery life.
Textures are better too. Ps4 Pro - Ps4
doesnt the game have a real time day/weather system? that could mean that the comparisons could be taken at slightly different times of the day with slight variations in the light. ie one video compared with another of the same scene could appear to have more contrast simply because the sun was in a different place.
IGN has a side by side comparison at the same time of day with cut scenes. Same thing. Better shadow quality.
So the picture is due to the focal point being in a different place and the video is due to it being a different time of day. If you are not trolling you need to take a step back and look at what you are saying.
Why is it so difficult for Nintendo to create just one traditional console that keeps up with the times? I get that trying new things is cool and sometimes pays off, but can someone tell me why anyone should buy a Switch over a PS4 or an XB1? Everyone has fond memories of the NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube because of the mentality of mostly traditional gaming in mind. I loved the Gamecube and N64 and wish Nintendo did something like that again. Gimmicks sell quick initially, but if you're not all about Nintendo only games, why would you get a Switch? I want someone to convince me why it's a good sell.
Why should anyone bother trying to convince you, when it feels like you'd have an excuse prepared for any reason given? But since you've asked, I'll play the fool for once and try a serious answer... The Switch is going to get great games. Some you'll be able to play on other consoles, others you won't. Of those that are on other consoles AND Switch, most of them will be games using art styles that will not have much graphical quality variance, like RIME or Binding of Issac, and will therefore look and play fantastic on the Switch. But even for the ones that don't use less taxing art styles, they'll still be in HD and will still look and play great. So the real question here, is whether or not you only want one system this gen? If you're okay with more than one, then the Switch will get plenty of games that will look, and play, just as well on Switch as anywhere else, only the Switch will let you take said home console games with you, if you go out a lot. It isn't guaranteed to get every third party game on the market, but it won't be short of choices, and will be a perfectly valid choice of system for any open-minded multi-console gamer that likes the idea of having a home console game selection to play on the go. But if none of that matters to you, and the only thing you want is tons of third party games at the highest fidelities possible, then you shouldn't be on a console. You should be on PC, regardless of expense (save up, like everyone else does.XD), and just wait for the inevitable emulators to play certain exclusives that you don't want to get a console for.
Spin that shit
Nintendo Defence Force has arrived. Why can't you just admit the frailties of the console and Nintendo's current practices instead of going into spin? Ignore history and failings and be doomed to repeat it. @Monkeyman a very mature reply there conversing in a logical and straightforward manner.... Reported for inappropriate immaturity.
@fox&DP Screw the both of you; when's the last time you took SONY or MICROSOFT to task for their failings with their consoles, like I have with the Switch and the state of its online? You're both worse fanboys than I could ever be, and Nintendo haters to boot. The next time, if I want any lip from either of you, either wait 'till I jiggle my zipper, or stfu.
oh bud you haven't one taken nintendo to town, only reason your bitching about the online is cuz u need to upgrade your phoen to start talking with your friends. the switch is a joke on every side. a game in developement for the entire (albeit short) life span of WiiU and they couldn't get that running at 1080p tells me that the power is very close to the WiiU which means that every $$ you are spending on the console is for the gimmicks.
Well if you dont want you dont want it. I think it offers a nicer experience becauce you can take it on the go.
Actually because it is different that I am buying it. I already have a ps4 so I don't need another console like it.
nintendo are fully aware they can not compete with a core system anymore. by making a gimmick driven console they create a niche for themselves in the market. ie its nintendo clinging on for dear life any way they can
They can compete. They just don't want to try. A $299 3 TFlop part competes no matter what.
It's not a good primary console, but it's a great choice for secondary console. And honestly? it's already 4 years since this gen started, most core gamers already have their choice of primary console. it's about time to invest on secondary console, and that's most likely why nintendo choose this time to release their console.
I know, for $299 they could of made a 3 TFlop part and enticed everyone with a regular PS4 or XB1 to buy a NIntendo console. They'd get Nintendo games (like BOTW at rock solid 1080/60 and better IQ) and they'd get BETTER versions of all the AAA 3rd party games. Hell actually getting the AAA 3rd party games. Instead we got this, and you still need to buy a controller and a SD card so the price literally goes up past a PS4 Pro with just those things, and PS4 Pro, if rumors are true, and we've seen NOTHING to think it isn't true, 28x the power of Switch undocked and 11x when docked. Who wants to pay more for that much less.
Are people being deliberately negative. Thats actually a reasonable difference. Better textures, more clarity and detail. It is also a bigger difference than many remastered games. Look at the tree on the left in both. Better textures and shadows. On the right the leaves merge into one on the wii u but can be distinguished individually on switch. The bridge has better textures etc. My only issue is what are we looking at. Is the switch docked. If so when it is not docked how does it compare to the wii u version? More info is needed. But the difference is clear between the pictures.
I said this in the past on this site. They generally hate Nintendo. No matter what they do. Right or Wrong, Have the best game or not, sells a lot of units or not. It's forever hate. Wii sold the most in 7th generation. Was called a fluke, 3DS has some the best games and sold a lot. - Gets ignored by the community besides the folks who love the system and Nintendo and I can go on. Nintendo in their eyes is nothing but doomed, dead on arrival, irrelevant and so on.
You might have a point. For me i say what i think. It can be seen in my comments that i will be critical if i dislike something and positive when i like it. I try not to play favourites and realise the switch and any console has good and bad. But regarding this image the difference is very obvious from what i can see, i would like to see wii u vs docked vs undocked though.
It's just not a generational leap in power by any means (and it's still unclear just how big an impact undocking will have on games, for that matter). So in essence, Nintendo is asking us all to once again accept that a gimmick is going to carry it's new console through it's entire lifespan. Which I'm not saying is not possible, but considering their last two generations...I am not optimistic. The Nintendo hate is a little overbearing, I agree, but I don't think it's completely unwarranted, to tell the truth.
Agreed. People are downplaying the differences because they don't want to accept that the Switch is much more capable than they're giving it credit for. I'm no graphics fanatic and even I can tell there's quite a few differences. Game Explain put out a couple of videos showcasing differences between the two systems' Zelda versions that do an even better job of showing just how much more draw distance and detail the Switch is capable of showing. Breath of the Wild is a true current gen AAA exclusive. And anti-Nintendo console war soldiers hate hearing it, but it's true that it looks great and, from all indications, plays amazing.
Yep.... People are here are ridiciously and stupidly hateing on it. It looks phenominal and I dont think they like seeing Nintendo succeding with a interesting console.
Are they recent videos? Do you have the link? Would love to check it out.
it looks like a great game. ill go pick it up on the WiiU and by that i mean, ill go buy a wii u and the game, cuz i aint given any of my money towards that cancer of a design choice for the Switch.
Nothing is changed visually when you undock it. Supposidly just resolution for this game.
If that's the case it would be barely noticeable due to the screen size. I have a love hate relationship with zelda. Ocarina of time is possibly the best game i have ever played. But i have hated every zelda game since then ( no idea why). Will pick this up with switch in the hope that it rekindles my enjoyment for Zelda.
Aonuma confirmed it has faster loading and better framerate.
@otaku I'm pretty sure they confirmed it's the same frame rate as wiiu
Here's one from MasterofHyrule over on Youtube. the side by side nature really highlights the increased clarity of the Switch version. It looks like there might even be a bit more foliage in some scenes compared to Wii U; https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Thanks. It is a big difference. Easy to see, particularly at the beginning around the 1:10 mark.
i think you are wrong. it simply looks like the snap was taken when the focal point was in a different place. if the player moved the camera a tiny bit, the tree/log/leaves would probably be in sharper focus.
It's clearly better textures nothing to do with focus. Check the video out from the link above. There is a clear difference.
yah. and its mostly the ps4 folk on here.
can't stop crying about the ps4 even in Nintendo articles huh
I agree with you on that. If you look at the detail difference and then take in account that it also runs at a higher resolution, it is a pretty big difference. I do prefer my PS4 and X1 but I enjoy Nintendo for what they bring. Not many people believe that the Wii U was actually not a weak system, it just used a different architecture which made it look much much weaker. Now by no means am I saying that this system is powerful but I think it will be just fine for what it is attempting to accomplish.
Wii U version looks quite a bit better. Softer shadows, DOF looks more natural. Especially the grass in front of the fallen tree looks a lot better. Looks very unnatural on the Switch. The stone also is off on the Switch. The focus on the camera is on the animal, but the stone is just as sharp, as is the shadow, there should be some softness to the stone and shadows.
Dude you are ridiculous. https://mobile.twitter.com/... Look at the shadows on the tree. Notice how you can see indivudal shadows on the tree for THE SWITCH version. In general all the textures are sharper. I just dont think you like to see that it is actually more powerful than wiiu BECAUSE IF THOSE STUPID RUMORS YOU SPREAD ABOUT THAT TEGRA BULLSHIT WAS TRUE THIS WOULDNT BE POSSIBLE FOR IT TO LOOK BETTER HAHAHAHA. Even in portable mode it looks like that. Just changes to 720p.
wrong it is confirmed the game runs on both at 30fps. http://www.ign.com/articles... "When I said earlier that the gameplay and game experience is the same, I meant the framerate is the same as well”
Are you still in denial it uses a Tegra chip lol. It has been confirmed by Nvidia, let go bro. You will be ok. As for the textures being sharper, they do look sharper. But then again the WiiU footage is 8 months old. Hard to compare it to a build from 2 days ago.
Nah. https://www.youtube.com/wat... Everything looks sharper and clearer, and more vibrant, on the Switch version.
LOL, isnt that the E3 version, remind me of Star fox zero E3 vs latest build for wiiu comparison.
It looks way blurier on the wiiu, you are simply wrong.
I pre ordered the switch today even though i only want for 3 games which are zelda, mario and xenoblade. I also heard that nintendo is finally making an official metroid game which i desperately need and have been waiting for. I wish i wouldnt have sold my wii u but i listened to a rumor......it said that zelda wasnt coming out on the wii u so i sold it. I went full retard to listen to a rumor but oh well at least ill have the better version.
So you have a game for 2017, maybe one for late 2017 or early 2018, another for 2018 or 2019, and one that MIGHT be coming in 2020 but Reggie may be trolling. If that's enough for you more power to you. But I don't think the average consumer is going to take such a leap of faith.
Both mario and xenoblade are confirmed for 2017 and yea its quite sad that i truly am getting a switch for zelda but I also like the tech. I mean ill get bomberman and sonic and maybe Mario kart 8 if its not full price. I doubt most will jump in for the price and possibly the worst launch line up ever but i was not missing zelda.
Not worth buying a new console that just sit on my shelf next to every other Nintendo console as of late!
god you have to love all those nintendo defence force about those small graphic deference lol, also about the framerate xD.
Objectively both version have crappy resolution and framerate. If it's going to be crappy either way, just buy the Wii U version and save yourself $299+70+ storage costs +online. I mean it's basically Pro-Scropio prices once you factor everything in. (remember people 900p/30 with dips is the Switch docked version) I'm getting it on my Wii U, and I'm specifically by the disc version because I know CEMU the emulator should get it running well. 1080/60, perhaps 1080/120, or even 4k/60. Buy the WIi U version and I can play on my Wii U and eventually play a much, much better running version. That's also another huge drawback with Switch, years from now we won't be able to take 'discs' and put them on a PC emulator to run them at full glory, because Nintendo put these things on a cartridge.
Yea have 2 games on cemu so far but it works great but im waiting for the 1.7 version to drop
"Objectively both version have crappy resolution and framerate." Try again when you understand how to properly apply the word "objectively". Because what you just said is SUBJECTIVE.
Its not a handheld.The 3ds is a handheld.And at 720p gaming on the couch with just the undocked device is like playing on the Wii U pad.5 years dev time for what ?
Its a portable gaming tablet or a handheld.
I dont think that the game would look better in the WiiU.. not because the Switch is just more powerful, but because nintendo needs a reason to make people get the Switch, even if was possible that the WiiU version had better graphics, Nintendo would make it look better on the Switch.. or else would make themself look bad. Just my two cents. So the game should look better on the Switch no matter how it compares in power with the WiiU. (im trying to use common sense here). Either way the game looks great to me, said this the first time i saw et, i say it again, but need more games than this one to get me to buy the Switch, not a big fan of Marios, but if was more games that are exclusive to the Switch #not marios# i may consider buying one, for now it's to expensive for me for what it offers.
What's with that sharp-craving these days? Those graphics looking much nicer and natural when a little unsharp.
Well it's not Crysis it's Zelda what were you expecting?!
Getting it on the Wii U. It isn't worth the price. Why pay another $£300 just for the resolution/shinier graphics, it's insane!?
Why's everyone pretending they still play the Wii U? Besides, the feeling of playing anew Zelda on a new [portable] system is a seller itself. Sure, if you haven't got the money go for what's convenient to you. But no point knocking down the fact that Nintendo are letting their old Wii U gamers still play a big game. The Switch has more than just Zelda (even the novelty of the 'new Nintendo system').
I'm getting it on my Wii U. What does Switch have coming in 2017, 2018, or 2019 that needs anyone to purchase a Switch? Only thing I can even see is Mario and Xeno 2. No one needs Splatoon 2, it looks basically the same. They don't need Mario Kart. They can get Zelda. Yeah, maybe there's a Metroid, or a Pokemon or something. But they haven't been announced, and given that crap lineup that pales in comparison to Wii U launch. Like 1/7th as good, then it's going to be a long, long time. Remember when MS showed Crackdown? Even then I said, well that won't be coming until late 2016 or more likely 2017. It's 2017 and it still isn't here. Nintendo can't build everything at once. They are still working on Zelda. Splatoon doesn't come out until summer. Mario is 'holiday' 2017... which means it should hit late 2017, but might not, and might be a 2018 title. These teams then need to turn around and take a couple of years or so to make their NEXT game. It's going to be awhile before games come out on this thing. FIFA is based off the PS3/360 version, whereas the main version runs Frostbite, the Switch WON'T. EA didn't announce anything else, not even a Madden even though Madden doesn't even come out until August usually. Think about it this way. When Sony and MS had THEIR reveal presentations in January and Feb of 2013, the launch was 9-10 months away. They showed WAAAYY more games. Waaayyyy more. But here is Switch showcasing jack and schmidt and it launches in less then 2 months. Novelty means nothing when everyone's been conditioned not to trust Nintendo and their hardware. It's a big red N flag. Who wants to pay $299 + 70 for a pro controller... which is basically PS4 Pro prices to play almost NOTHING. Diehards sure. Everyone else, nope. There's also storage concerns for digital downloads and/or DLC. There's perhaps a lan adapter. There's online. There's also other accessories if you want to use as a portable. Sitcker shock will be a concern for most people. See, most people don't give two shakes about it being portable. Thus the compromises and added cost are a lead weight to this thing just like the gamepad on Wii U were. Yes it's more functional in that way, but it also loses the ability to use it as a 2nd screen like the Wii U. But still, it's basically the same structural problem with the console. It raises the costs, lowers the power to the point where it's got the power from 2007, but to get what you need to use it as a console it's above PS4 Pro price and nearing the rumored Scorpio price of $499.. ...and dat crappy Online paid service. Gee thanks NIntendo for letting me play for 30 whole days a random 30 year old game. Oh and I need to buy an app for voice chat/invitations and use my phone? I remember free online was a major selling point and many times was a deciding factor in people buying a Wii U. Paying for online access sucks. But not many people are going to pay for a 2nd or even 3rd online service, they just aren't. It becomes a massive barrier, and people aren't going to give up PS+ or XBLive. WIth those services if you can no pun intended, switch from one to the other if you change ecosystems. But Nintendo isn't a #1 console, so no one is going to switch online services to it. It's 2nd, 3rd, or nothing.
Wii u is from 2012 and the switch from 2017 and the diference is very small.
Because Switch has the power of 2007. The raw power of Switch is basically like a Geforce 8800 Ultra, 384 GFlops. It came out in May 2007. Yes there are architectural changes that let it be a little better, but that's basically the power of the thing, and that's docked. When undocked, it's far less powerful then 2007 tech.
Its like Wii and GC: Nintendo thinks the better HW of the Wii U was the problem , so they go like "we need no better gfx/hardware, we need new games and gimmicks".
its probably an early build on wii u against a near final build on switch.
This picture is wrong. The Wii U picture should be completely black, because Nintendo will dump the Wii U version at the last moment to force Switch sales.
wait so now anything less than 60fps is unacceptable? Isn't the Last Guardian (a PS3 developed game) running not even a locked 30fps on the PS4?