Final Fantasy XIII-2 is Better Than Final Fantasy XV

Final Fantasy XIII-2 is better than Final Fantasy XV because the combat is more interesting, the story is better, and the characters are more interesting.

[KimikoGaming]

I actually did really enjoy XIII-2. It was honestly the most fun I have had with any of the games after FF10. XV was also really fun but it was very short lived.

[UnSelf]

XV has the best combat system of any FF. The Negate All Damage Ascension node is a game changer literally and figuratively

[Da One]

Did you not play X-2, best battle system in FF (terrible everything else

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Not even close to "best".

[Gitgud]

I don't see how people disagree with @UnSelf, XV brought a new unique combat system to the table, and it rocks.

[Bebob]

Actually, i think its one of the worst combat system. The only thing i did was hold attack. Never defend, only heal myself with potions. Just keep potions and elixer wel stocked. (witch you can buy in your car)! And the batlle sytem is good as broken.

[naruga]

FF Xiii is just quick made trash not only as an FF entry also as a game ...has no relation with FFXV wich maybe its not the best FF but its stands on its own very well and its a very well made game

[FallenAngel1984]

Noel and Noctis are among my favorite protagonists in the series

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Noel, yes.

Noctis...boring.

[Gitgud]

wow. you lost the plot

[kakashi81]

Squall liohart buddy

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Never played xiii-2 but I don't see how that's possible. Xv is so fun. It's fun for reasons that a final fantasy game shouldn't be fun for. But it's fun. I'm more than 40 hours in and still not even half way done. The world is so much more fun than xiii.

[Gaming_Cousin]

Keep in mind that the metacritic scores are almost the same

[kevnb]

who cares?

[Sm00thNinja]

Literally who cares

[jznrpg]

Because we all judge our fun by metacritic, LOL

[Gitgud]

metacritic, that's what you go for?

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Go play 13-2 and you'll see.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

My back catalog is too big right now lol.

[Eonjay]

Final Fantasy XIII-2 is criminally underrated. One of the top RPGs from last gen and definitively has the best ending of any FF game (which is to say that it is shocking)

[gamer7804]

i was pleasantly surprised with 13-2, i really liked it.

[MyDietEqualsGames]

I did not care for any of the trilogy. I felt 13 was a major setback in the series, not felt since the floptastic Spirits within dragged Square soft to the point of no return. FFXV fixed everything that was wrong with 13 and some.

[kakashi81]

Did you get a chance to play all 3??? lol xiii & xiii-2 were better than lightning returns.

[PlayableGamez-]

I disagree... but I will say xiii-2 is the best game out of the xiii trilogy.

[kakashi81]

Lightning ret

[InKnight7s]

XIII-2 better FF than XV maybe in some fan aspects but its better game? No, definitely. XV summons, choco, driving, fast paced, super fights and characters are ultimate fun.

[johndoe11211]

you completely lost me with the summons. XV has the worst summons mechanics in any FF game EVER. It's atrocious. I do like the rest of the game however.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You barely see summons in 15.
Driving is a chore.
The battle system is okay.

[MyDietEqualsGames]

You can fast travel, like in Fallout 3+. It opens up more after you progress some through the game. Also, you can set up travel points from rest stop and warp to your car. It's very convenient, especially when you want to close distance quickly and maximize exp food+rest stop combo. This combo also helps with a certain hunt for obtaining the Ultima blade.

[greywolf39]

final fantasy XIII and XIII-2 were one of the WORST FF games made. Combat, characters and some other stuff was horrible, so the who wrote this probabbly never played other FF game. Try FF V and VI and then say smth

[Nara_shikamaru]

Amazing!! I sense a decline in logical reasoning and a steep increase in full-on delusional behaviour....lol, no, ffv and ffvi were amazing (ffvi being the best of all the games imo) but i have to disagree with your initial statement, ffxiii and ffxiii-2 were good games, i enjoyed them thoroughly

[Ogygian]

FF13 was boring corridor gameplay with the occasional decent cutscene.

[-Foxtrot]

LOL

No...just no

[peewee11016]

The dislikes on people who enjoy FF13-2 is funny as hell. I loved 13-2 was a huge step up from 13 but then they down-stepped with lighting retunrs

[moegooner88]

Every FF game I have played is better than FFXV. XV could have been something special but the focus on meaningless open world crap ruined it

[Gitgud]

Meaningless open world? So you prefer developers staying backwards instead of updating their mechanics? If the game wasn't open world it would've dumbed down the game massively.

[Omnislashver36]

Open world dumbed down it significantly. We lost informative cutscenes because fetchquest progression took hold, and even influenced main quests. Basically a cutscene starts and it's like the conversation is already over- then you fetchquest. Driving between quests can take up to 10 minutes or more. This is forward thinking? Focus on open world with Tabata rid us of the KH system that kept magic menus, an FF staple that increases strategy.

Back to open world, this created an endless running, banter, and driver simulator. Hardly forward thinking. I can only hope FFVIIR doesn't take this route. I want to see a world map in FFVIIR, not openworld fetchquesting and banter simulation.

[Gitgud]

if you really don't like driving, there's a thing called fast travel mate or regalia type f. If this game wasn't open world, man dungeons wouldn't be as good as it is, you'd probably have to load to every time just to enter other areas in the game like going to Altissia back and forth, man the game would just be dead on arrival.
This game got FF back on it's feet, the XIII trilogy ruined practically destroyed the series. I don't see how you see this game as a "endless running, banter, and driver simulator". I see it as one of the most unique games out there. I admit, there are a ton of fetch quest, but it doesn't bore me, and I don't think we've lost any informative cutscenes in the game because of it. I just think they didn't develop certain characters well, and they've already confirmed that they'll be developing this characters more in the years to come.

Mate, when you think about it, this game has been in the making for fucking 10 years, and it could've ended up like Duke Nukem. And for the first FF open world game, it's great and I saw many put this among their favourite games this year, and putting Noctis as one of their favourite characters out of the whole franchise.

The game is a success mate.

[mezati99]

as a man who played both games to death

the people who actually think Xiii-2 is a better game than XV are actually completely 100% retarded

it's not even a a matter of opinion

[Perjoss]

Opinions.

If someone says they like something more than something else you can't really say they are wrong. You simply have a different view to them. Unless you're one of those crazy people that needs everyone to agree with you

[TheOtherVitaOwner]

Actually, it is completely a matter of opinion

[PaleMoonDeath]

No, it's really not. FF15 definitely the best FF game since FFX.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Nope.

[goldwyncq]

I liked XIII-2 but come on...

[Perjoss]

As someone who played a lot of 13 and only a bit of 13-2, how does lightning returns compare? Is it a similar combat system and overall structure and game length?

[Summons75]

I really enjoyed both. Which one I like more is going to take sometime to think about but no doubt both are really fun!

[OrbitingTheOrb]

No its not. Its not even close. FF15 is an incredible entry in the series. FFXIII 2 is wholely forgettable. This article is dumb. Peace out.

[Sm00thNinja]

No. And I loved FFXIII 2 but no.

[ultimize]

Stupid

[Kalebninja]

13-2 was great, its story and characters were more put together but as a whole experience i still think FFXV is better.

[Lionalliance]

You mean convoluted time traveling story lol.

[hirobrotagonist]

No

[Derceto]

Yes. Yes it is.

[Lionalliance]

Hell no!

[Lenrulesdaworld]

No....No it's not

[jznrpg]

Eh , I enjoy each game for what they are , I dont really compare them because generally they have too many differences

[Pancit_Canton]

The only thing that is good with FFXIII series is the battle system.

[CrimsonWing69]

Man stop eating paint chips, bro.

[il-JumperMT]

whats the final fantasy xiii-2?

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I don't disagree. The cast is more likeable, music is better, battle system is better, the worlds are more fantastical than Eos. Magic is also better. The branching time lines is interesting.

FF15 is a good game but in terms of the entire FF universe it is far from the masterpiece a lot of people are claiming it is.

[Gitgud]

HAHA! XIII 2 was a decent game, but XV blows it out of the water. The story is debatable, but imo certain characters in XIII 2 are just dead, like Sarah. Noel and Caius are actually pretty good, but it's not FFXV. The combat in XV is pretty much one of the best and unique combat systems out there, turn based is out dated. "the characters are more interesting." Yeah, a character like Lighting or Sarah is more interesting than Ardyn or Noctis & the bros, jeez this article is mad. The XIII trilogy destroyed the name of FF, XV brought it back, and it's a no brainer which is the better game like honestly.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Turn based outdated, NOPE!!! Went back to an old FF7 video of a LV 1 Tifa fighting Safer Sephiroth. I don't think FF15's combat system would have made that fight any more epic.

Or just watch this from FF9, this battle is epic:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Tzuno]

best battle system i experienced in ff series is in ff 12, as for 15 don't know as i am a pc gamer.

[Number-Nine]

lol. some here really think 13-2 was better than 13? crack heads in the comments!

[BlahBlahWhatever]

At that point I wonder if there is any FF worst than XV than which is better than it lol..

[cyx]

Gtfo of here with that nonsense . xiii-2 better than XV ? Lmfao

[Dragonopolis]

XV = semi-open world land based ; XIII-2 series semi-open timeline based .... totally different concepts but the closest in comparison to the rest of the ff13 series which are linear and not really in the same style of RPG.... ( don't compare open world games to linear base games - by the way people can enjoy both styles of game play)

What you can compare.... Battle systems.... I'm great with both.... Square Enix Knocked it out of the park again with another great battle system in XV but XIII Battle System was great too.........

XV is Great addition to the series but I don't and I almost to the point of hating it..... hate the game controlled free floating camera during fighting scenes... The Camera AI is also very stupid at times makes the battles seem messy and not as clean. I record some battle scenes they are not as impressive as some of my older X series battles because the camera is all over the place and the creature is disappearing into the characters, the ground, (or vice versa)..... basically I don't like the clipping and physics/collision in game at times which hurts this game.... especially if you are running the game at 4K the transitions can be almost jarring from the gorgeous non battle world to the ugly battle messy camera crap going on in XV - Just my opinion.

XV Not perfect but Not bad either...... Which is the same that could be said for the X13 series..... X13 Series not Perfect but not Bad either but both series all worth playing in the end.......

[Chaosdreams]

Well that's the beauty of opinions. We all have one :)

I personally love ff15. The story just needs to be explained better with the added cut scenes coming our way. And by better, I do mean a lot better.

As for FF13. I can't comment on part 2, since I loathed 13 more than I've ever hated a game before. So when I see Lightning, I just think of how horrendous that game was..and just yeah. I didn't plan to play the following installments.

[Elda]

That's totally fking crazy! & I'm only 5 hrs into the game,loving FFXV.Out of the FF-XIII trilogy the first was the best.

[Platformgamer]

Smoke weed everyday uh?

[Bebob]

Hell YES!! FFXIII-2 Is better than FFXV for SURE! Without a doubt. (in my humble opinion, that is!)

[King_Lothric]

I tried to like final fantasy pink (xiii) but could not but now, with final fantasy xv I finally feel a come back of the series and me as a fan. I hope final fantasy 7 remake is even better.