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Xbox: “We'll look back on 2016 as our tipping point”

Fresh momentum suggests that Xbox One has overcome its troubled launch

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darthv722741d ago

2016 has been a great year for the XB1. It is a worthy companion system to have.

GtR35olution2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Sony sold 50 million ps4s in three years and they sell 2:1 or more ps4s more than xbox one worldwide on a monthly basis, facts. Npd is just America. Things will be worse november 2017 when ps4 is $250 and $350 for pro while xbox one will be $250 and $500 for scorpio imo.

There isnt any tipping point for microsoft except that theyve only managed to outsell the ps4 in one region a few times by mere thousands which is in america. While xbox one averages about 500k a month the ps4 is doing over one million or so a month so the xbox one selling 20k more than ps4 in npds is insignificant when ps4 wins monthly 2:1 worldwide every month. The xbox one hasnt cut into the ps4s overall lead at all when their competition outsells them by half a million monthly. Its like some talking about about xbox one selling 5k more then ps4 in the UK a few times but ps4 averages 3:1 more sales worldwide in europe. Some people never talk about worldwide because it would make any xbox one tipping point talk look silly

If scorpio is like i think itll be i think itll cost $600 because of the new tech but at that price itll barely move off shelves. Im hoping scorpio will be as powerful as i want because im willing to pay the higher price for more powerful console.

PistolsAtDawn2741d ago

Nothing you said refutes anything he said....stop being so insecure

Thatguy-3102741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Regardless of your facts one can't congratulate MS enough for turning it around with the Xbox one this year. Yea when comparing it to ps4's sales there's no competition but that's not what they're talking about. This year they truly made a lot of strides whether people like it or not.

n4rc2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Why does everyone now think Scorpio is some crazy showcase for new tech or something and it'll cost a fortune..

It's a low-mid grade PC by today's standards.. lol.. Rx 480 is about 6tf and under 300 RETAIL right now..

edit... its only impressive for the console space and all the hardware is currently available now at an affordable price.. they are partners with AMD and wont pay anything close to retail. they also dont go into production for awhile now so it only gets cheaper..

ShadowKnight2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

🙊🤔

christocolus2741d ago

@GtR35olution

Lol. Your post comes off as insecure. The Xbox One is still doing great just not as great as the PS4.

obidanshinobi2741d ago

They haven't sold 50 million, they have shipped 47 million to retailers.
Also MS have the lead in Brazil as the XB1 is about half the price of the PS4 over there due to MS having a manufacturing plant tin Brazil whereas Sony get stung by Brazil's ridiculous import taxes.

I own both consoles but I love driving games and space games, Elite Dangerous is amazing, so generally use my XB1 more though I'm currently playing Dishonored 2 on the PS4 and looking forward to the Last Guardian. Having both consoles gives you the best of both worlds.

marquisray2741d ago

It will be on my shelf i cant wait

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freshslicepizza2740d ago

it's all context. the ps2 did so well it crushed the competition into oblivion. the fact is the xbox one is still holding its own against a very well marketed product the ps4. that system is now hovering at about 50 million in just over 3 years so of course the xbox one does not appear to be doing wel in comparison but ask yourself, where is nintendo?

we all know sony fans seem to be the most apprehensive to give microsoft credit, they will even allow nintendo to fly under the radar as they point most of their negativity towards microsoft and the reason is simple, they are the most competitive to the playstation brand, not nintendo.

microsoft is also doing a much better job spreading out their titles but every time microsoft does something the critics continue to push the goalposts to something else.

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Ricegum2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

They've been selling the Xbox One for less than £150 all year, and Xbox One S for around £200 with two games & extra controller.

One would hope they are selling a bit more with those kind of prices. Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all.

Yohshida2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

in germany they gave ps4 slims away for 196€, so both have those kind of deals and that system just came out. Pro is discounted 70€ and wasn't even out half a month.

mark_parch2741d ago

@ Unreal01
yep your right how dare microsoft rip us of with those amazing prices

Gazondaily2741d ago

"Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all."

They must just be doing it for the lols....

Overload2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Companies usually have a budget. If the margin tips in one area (console pricing) it will be recovered in another (game development). That is why they are selling the Xbox One so cheap, they are producing very little in house software. Since the software is selling only decently, I can't imagine they are turning much of a profit with the division.

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LastCenturyRob2741d ago

Its a worthy system regardless.

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Hoffmann2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Not really. The xbox one is more or less obsolete if you have a PC and a PS4

@bluefox absolutely agreed

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Razzer2741d ago

Yep. I would have probably bought an Xbox One by now, but with Play Anywhere......why?

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FallenAngel19842741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Even if Xbox One currently has a momentum, it's still selling slower than PlayStation 3 in the same timeframe, and the PS3 had a much more troubled launch than XO.

Just for reference, Sony's slowest selling console sold 33.71 million by the end of 2009. It remains unlikely that Microsoft's fastest selling console can beat that total by the end of 2016.

darthv722741d ago

while that is true... the XB1 will be MS 2nd best selling system while the PS3 will be sony's 4th (just to keep it in your perspective)

moegooner882741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

@darth wow, that shows how much work MS still has to do.

FallenAngel19842741d ago

@ darth

It still says a lot that Microsoft's best selling console can't sell more than Sony's worst selling console.

n4rc2741d ago

and amazing 10/10 games wont sell close to the worst COD game... whats your point exactly?

MRMagoo1232741d ago

@narc

what's yours first ? he's talking about consoles not games.

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freshslicepizza2740d ago

how important are those regions for you if a system doesn't sell that well? microsoft will continue to lose out on japanese niche games, so if those are appealing to you then the xbox will likely never be your choice but as far as western games the xbox competes very well in this field, much more than nintendo does.

n4rc2740d ago

What's mine? I made it pretty clear.. and it doesn't matter if it's games, consoles or phones, the point remains the same..

Selling the most doesn't mean you are the best, it means you were most popular... It can be both as well, don't get me wrong..

But grandmother's think all game consoles are "PlayStation" and it's been Synonymous with console gaming for 20 years.. just like a game like cod, Titanfall is a better game yet won't even come remotely close.. cod is a household name and it's name alone will sell.

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Automatic792741d ago

@Darth72

2016 has been a fantastic year. Further, not just 2016 but since launch MS has offered the best games Imo. To me its my primary console.

If you wonder why here are my reasons

Console Exclusives
Xbox Live
BC
EA Access
Controller

Next year Beam Streaming on Xbox live, smooth stream direct from Xbox live.

and this is just from a gaming perspective.

BizarroUltraman2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

Its my main console, but Ive been playing more PS4 Pro lately and have a good collection of games with Pro features. So im kicking it on that.

My Xbox One still get the most plays, plus I do more than just game on it. Its my personal hub to be honest. Espn everything on it and all my movies, Amazon Prime account, Ea Access, Netflix, HBO im good. Only time I watch my TV is when Pats or Celtics are on.

Angeljuice2741d ago

XBox for TV, PS4 for games, it's what they were designed for after all.

I don't see why MS needs congratulations for turning anything around, they've been selling strongly from the start.
I think MS have started focusing more on the US lately, they have more control over public perception there and anything they achieve is magnified.

They haven't sold badly at all, at any point (if you don't compare them to PlayStation sales).

SpaceRanger2741d ago

Console exclusives?? Completely subjective. And since they only had three this year, it seems like it's hardly anything to boast about.

And controller? Lol gotta find something subjective to add to that list when there isn't much else.

Eterna1Ice2741d ago

Horizon 3, Gears 4, Quantum Break, Recore, FRU and Dead Rising 4 in a couple of days.

MRMagoo1232741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

exclusives eternal not multiplats 😂😂😂

edit: I would but it's not in the dictionary....... i guess it's a made up thing to counter the fact xbone has no exclusives.

Eterna1Ice2741d ago

Try searching the definition of a console exclusive.

christocolus2741d ago (Edited 2740d ago )

@Michael

And don't forget Scorpio comes out next year. I'll be getting it day one.

@Angeljuice

Why do you care?All of a sudden you are interested in Scorpio and Xbox games? Huh?

@Captainobvious

Isn't it obvious? I am not a PC gamer.

Angeljuice2741d ago

Michael was talking about 2016, Scorpio won't be here until the arse end of 2017 (with the next wave of X1 "exclusives).

CaptainObvious8782740d ago

Why not save your money and get a gaming pc instead.

Cheaper games, better performing games, free online, more dedicated servers. It's a no brainer.

BizarroUltraman2740d ago

Angeljuice, was trolling the whole time. You gotta read between the lines.

Razzer2741d ago

Use the reply link, dude.

trooper_2741d ago

...What console exclusives?

Halo, Forza, Gears, Killer Instinct?

What about new IPs?

And how many people will use EA Access? How many will use BC? BC isn't a selling point. Exclusives are.

Microsoft still has a lot of work ahead of them after that DRM fiasco.

BizarroUltraman2740d ago (Edited 2740d ago )

You guys always leave off the new ips. Why? Theres others games besides Halo, Forza, Gears. Cant troll anymore if you ad those huh? And you sound so salty that you dont have those features xbox gamers are enjoying. Face it most if not all features added to Xbox are from consumer feedback. And dont forget external hard drive support and 4K blu-ray !!

trooper_2740d ago

So what are they?
I'm waiting.

By the way, disagreeing doesn't change anything I've said because facts are facts. They still have to do a lot more if they want to at least stay relevant.

CaptainObvious8782740d ago

The fact that you had to say 'console exclusive' instead of 'exclusive' really says it all.

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Kashima2741d ago

I don't need a console that doesn't get a support from japanese companies.

BizarroUltraman2741d ago

Then dont get one. Its your prerogative! Bobby said so.

Angeljuice2741d ago

One day's sunshine does not a summer make.

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BizarroUltraman2741d ago

In my opinion, the mess Xbox is in, in terms of sales. Is all Microsoft fault had nothing to do with Sony. They made some very big mistakes at E3, Kinect and price and that was nail in coffin for this gen. The Xbox is a very capable machine and does everything Microsoft said it would and more. With more stuff coming down the pipeline its on an upward trend. Im actually glad they turned around and now with this bit of momentum and can manage a great Scorpio preview at E3 or wherever they decide that would be boast well for the next console. Just keep doing their thing.

And they have a great line up of games and more coming.
Day One supporter still have the original model and a PS4 Pro. Lil Jon "YEAH".....

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rlow12h ago

If they have follow up games that are bangers, then this strategy will work. But if it’s Call of Duty followed another dead period then it won’t last.

Garethvk1h ago

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Noskypeno19m ago

Yup, the CEO needs a new yacht and private jet

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PS5 Livestreams Are No Longer Speaking to the Fans Who Built the Brand

The problem for PlayStation right now – through a heady combination of its own adjusted marketing plans, the aftermath of the pandemic, and never-ending development cycles – is that it feels like it’s abandoned the kinds of software that fans have always valued most.

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-Foxtrot15h ago

My issue with the announcements over the past 2 years or so is that now these "big" announcements they hint at or whatever end up being just PC ports.

For most of their core audience, the people watching, we've played them, a PC announcement being made into a big thing and counting as one of their major announcements means f*** all to most of us. Also you have to think if they didn't have them then first party wise they don't have much else.

So now it's split between PC ports (God of War Ragnarök), live service shit (Concord) and the first party games we actually do want (Astrobot).

CrashMania14h ago

Yeah they really should leave the PC announcements to blog posts, most of the audience watching are PlayStation console players, not PC players.

Eonjay31m ago

I'm not sure I understand the stance. They surely want to sell their games no matter what platform they are on. Also leaving out PC port announcements isn't gonna magically make more PS5 announcements.

CrimsonWing692h ago(Edited 2h ago)

This particularly was a bad showcase in my opinion. Derivative Souls-like (which in all honesty I will check out because I like the genre, but I couldn’t tell you the names of the games without looking it up or how they’re different from one another), Concord, a mid Silent Hill 2 Remake. I’m not really into platformers so Astrobot didn’t stick to me. The only thing that got me hyped was Monster Hunter: Wilds.

Truth be told though, most of these showcases are ass anyways. I’m struggling to think of one that was firing on all cylinders like the good ol’ E3 conference announcements.

The shift to GaaS is absolute sh*t and for them to think that’s the game to make the focus shows just gives me little hope for the future of gaming, especially the state that the industry is in.

I wish they’d have shown Wolverine or something that would’ve been a “holy sh*t” moment… but nope.

isarai9h ago

This gen just sucks, period. More PS4 games have come out than PS5 exclusives, and we're almost 4yrs in. Then this unwanted GAAS push which is completely tone deaf, and not what their fanbase wanted. Feel like im just watching a childhood friend kill themselves with an addiction.

purple1014h ago

the gas is in ADDITION, to all their other games, thats why they brought more studios,

so the old ones can continue doing what they do best.

Yi-Long1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

The argument 'GAAS is in addition to what we already had' kinda goes out of the window when we can see very clearly a lack of SP offline games, Sony killing studios and IPs left, right and center, and pushing 'always online' in games that never had it and don't need it (Gran Turismo).

You can clearly tell that earlier generations offered far more in terms of diversity/variety of genres, be it Everybody's Golf, Driveclub/Motorstorm, LittleBigPlanet, Modnation Racers, Jak & Daxter, Gravity Rush, Ico, Sly Cooper, Locoroco, Tearaway, whatever.

It feels like they killed off anything that wasn't going to sell massive numbers but did offer something fresh and original and were just 'fun'.

shinoff21831h ago

Imagine if some of those new studios were working on single player games. Sony would have it locked. Instead we get trash.

MrBaskerville2h ago

Though, do note that since summer last year, more and more games have been current gen only. Lots of smaller titles, but of bigger stuff there's Baldurs Gate 3, Alan Wake 2, Rise of the Ronin, Dragons Dogma 2, FFRebirth and so on. Being on ps4 only, means you will be missing out on a lot of releases both major and minor.

Profchaos4h ago

Yeah this 9th generation has been the biggest let down out of every console generation I've experienced since the 8 bit era.

For the first time in near 30 years I feel like Sony has completely abandoned the fanbase that got them to where they are. We see GAAS being shoved down our throats and fun replaced by lootboxes and milking us. This isn't the Sony experience I ever wanted

if I wanted to be exploited I'd play a mobile game

I find the modern line up though just lacks innovation which earlier generation games had in spades we only get what is going to sell big numbers even if the games a single player games it's likely so by the book I feel like I've played it before.

I think the PS2 was likely the golden era for experimental game design everything since that has been game design by bored room

MrBaskerville2h ago

Atleast I think they've pivoted back to singleplayer stuff. But it will take a while. I think they will announce some big game next year, like Ghost Of Tsushima 2 or something. Notice how they showed us Concord and Astro Bot a few months before release. I think the time of knowing what's on the horizon is over.

shinoff21831h ago

Although the lack of 1st party ps5 games only is there. I'm still having a blast. Much more then the ps3 generation.

Storm2346m ago

Not me I mean I am having fun, but the PS3 generation was my favorite ever, by far, and man do I miss those times...

rippermcrip36m ago

Care to list all the "Sony" GAAS games with all the loot boxes and milking? Aside from Destiny (which already was like that when they bought it), what are you referring to?

lellkay2h ago

I love my PS5, but these state of plays are 100% not delivering.

VersusDMC1h ago

Granblue relink
FF7 Rebirth
Helldivers 2
Rise of the ronin
Stellar blade
Concord
Astro bot
Silent hill 2

How is this years list not mostly games that a playstation fan would like?

Armyofdarkness1h ago

Great games all, except Rise of the Ronin! It sucks!

FACTUAL evidence47m ago

Sony fans usually just type list out in abundance to make it look good, no matter how crappy. I used to literally laugh out loud back in the ps3 days when people will type out long list of exclusives, and add “Afrika” and also “the last guardian” and “the agent”. Lol The last guardian didn’t even see that generation, and sony fans are still waiting for the agent.

TL;DR ignore the sony list, they just like to name games only on their console no matter the status.

thesoftware7301h ago

Versus, I know you have to defend to the end, but dont be dense.

If you read the comments, you can see that people are talking about Sony's first-party output, past innovation, and its usually high-level game output. You posted a list of 3 games that are not out yet: 2 mid games, one Gaas, and 2 paid-for 3rd party exclusives. I do not hate your list, but that is not what people here are talking about.

VersusDMC1h ago

I am replying to the article.

i"s that it feels like it’s abandoned the kinds of software that fans have always valued most."

Sony is making deals for mostly single player games just as it always has.

And the argument that only games made by studios that Sony owns matter is beyond brain dead and i just look at all the games released on a console that isn't on the competitions.

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

The only game on that list that interests me is astro bot and I'm a PS fan since it's inception. Let be honest there's not a lot of amazing games on that list maybe astro bot and helldivers

FF another rpg in a long running franchise selling less and less each entry
Helldivers 2 a fun live service game I got a few hours of enjoyment with friends
Rise of Ronin may aswell play ghost of Tsushima
Stellar blade yeah ok you have to admit this one is beyond niche
Concord amazing cutscenes lackluster Game
Astro bot day 1 I'm so there
Silent hill 2 verdict is still out on this one.
Granblue ok I take stellar blade being niche back granblue I've never heard of

The games your listing here are not all that great outside of astro bot and helldivers.

This is the bare minimum release schedule as far as exclusives I'd expect similar on switch and Xbox really.

VersusDMC1h ago

You'd expect similar on xbox and switch but you aren't getting it. Without looking into it i just think hellblade 2, princess peach and paper mario is the only console exclusives that the competition has released and are selling less than the "niche" games on the playstation side.

Profchaos1h ago

Actually I thought paper Mario sold quite well peach however yeah that was a flop on the switch side of things they kind of have an excuse it's the end of life for that system but they are still getting new games of a good quality.

Yeah Xbox I don't own a Xbox I don't want one especially with their recent flip flopping and basically killing of the brand but there's a good chance they have a new Doom game this year and I've been a room fan since the first game.

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