Gamers Of the Round Table November 16 2016

This week ICE and Alex the kidd sit down with Alissa Lee from the Stan Cassidy foundation to talk about the game changers project.


Epic co-founder hints at game-changing feature coming in Fortnite Season 3

Mark Rein, the co-founder of Epic, has already teased some content in the new season. On Tuesday night, he even hinted at a new feature that would completely change the game.


Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut PC Opening Gameplay - A stunning game on PS4, now even better

CG writes: In this video we look at Sucker Punch’s open-world samurai warrior/stealth game, Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut PC. We originally played this on PS4 Pro, but looks fantastic using Ultra settings on PC in native 4K and DLSS set to Quality (2K). This is the opening 1 hour and 17 minutes of playing. You can tell we played this before based on our impeccable parrying.

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anast6m ago

I heard they used a potato to run this...


Developers Claim Game Pass Has Caused A Behavioral Shift That Has Led To Very Few Sales On Xbox

Developers have claimed that Microsoft's Game Pass subscription service has caused a behavioral shift that has led to very few sales on Xbox.

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Einhander19723h ago(Edited 3h ago)

No one could have predicted this would happen.... oh wait...

Jingsing3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Less sales on Xbox. If the majority of developers want to secure finance for their game they'd best ignore the platform that is going to take it away from them or release on it much later.

Barlos3h ago

Or release on Xbox but not on GP.

Einhander19723h ago


That doesn't work anymore, people on xbox only play what is on game pass.

This is why the series s is so much more popular than the x, because people just buy it as a game pass machine.

This is demonstrated by the fact that even when the two consoles were closer to each other in sales multi-platform games sell 80+% of their copies on PlayStation.

Petebloodyonion1h ago

The complete article touches on this subject "How can the platform improve for developers who don’t have the advantage of a AAA publisher behind them? Proposed solutions were varied, but all came down to one thing: better discoverability and incentives for people to play outside of Game Pass."

@Jingsing and Einhander
If we consider the data of this article as FACTUAL then this should be FACTUAL too right?
"Something that was surprising in the discussions concerning effort versus value, however, was that some developers flagged the same concerns with PlayStation. After all, though it consistently ranked above Xbox in finding sales and players for games, it still trailed significantly behind PC and Switch."

Does this mean that ppl on PlayStation play too much Essential and PS+ extra?

Einhander19721h ago(Edited 1h ago)


"Does this mean that ppl on PlayStation play too much Essential and PS+ extra?"

Yes, this is what PlayStation has been saying from the beginning, that's why they haven't put their day one games on the service and why they have largely tried to keep the service secondary to sales. Jim Ryan repeatedly stated that putting games on a service like Microsoft is doing wasn't sustainable.

When Insomniac was hacked one of the Sony internal memos showed that after they put Forbidden West on PS Plus sales of the game almost completely stopped, there was even a chart that showed how sales went flat as soon as they put the game on the service, and it's also why they wanted to delay the release of Ratchet and Clank onto the service.

/rolls eyes

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Eonjay3h ago

Yup... I don't think it was something that needed to be predicted because it was very obvious from sales data.

shinoff21832h ago

When alot of us tried saying this the fans didn't wanna hear it. Instead spewing on about how gamepass helps with sales and all the bs. It was clear as day what was going to happen.

JEECE2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Who would have foreseen that the people using basic common sense and understanding incentive structures were right and the people parroting nonsensical PR talking points from the corporation were wrong?

Chevalier1h ago

Interesting how some of us have mentioned this with Xbox own reports showing this trend, but, Xbox fans kept disagreeing

Crows9021m ago

To be fair...the outspoken Xbox fans on this site are a minority...many Xbox players actually do have some sense...they're just not on social media to talk about Xbox.

Aloymetal1h ago

But, but tEh bEsT dEal In gAmInG...
Never understood that mentality when the best deal in gaming would be having all AAA third party games released day one on the service from ALL the big publishers like Rock*, Ubi, EA etc and not just a few so so games and the rinse and repeat MS 1st party games.

S2Killinit2m ago(Edited 1m ago)

Yup, the “best deal” is actually not all that great if you want to play games.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

They should have seen this coming, I think Game Pass was one of the worst things Xbox could have done as a brand, good for the consumer who want to game on the cheap (although you can also argue that it hurts consumers in the long run, seems to be bad for developers unless you're a small indie game, possibly).

ThinkThink30m ago

If your game is good, I'll find it on gamepass. I often buy the smaller games that I discover, which I would have otherwise missed. I buy more games because of gamepass, not the other way around. I have stopped purchasing full price MS 1st party games though.

S2Killinit0m ago

Lol 😂 yes, don't give up.

S2Killinit11m ago

LOL Well, too bad for xbox, its not like people didn’t warn them.

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ravens523h ago

Oh really 😯. Can't say I'm surprised.

Barlos3h ago

Wow, really? Never saw that coming...

jwillj2k43h ago(Edited 3h ago)

“They have an uncanny ability to state the obvious”